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Diggin' FFXI

ArchendrusXArchendrusX Member UncommonPosts: 46

Heya.  Just started playing about a week or so ago and I like it a lot!  SE has managed to create an MMO with the spirit and storyline of a traditional FF game.  I like that I have to find a party to progress through the game, something I normally wouldn't bother with.  Tactics are also required and I think it's making me a better overall player, which is awesome.  I get a greater sense of accomplishment with FFXI too.  It's managed to pull me away from my primary MMO since I started playing (Who's name I won't mention because it's bashed enough already, lol. And no it's not WoW)  I could go on, but you guys already know why the game is great.  Look forward to playing with some of you!

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  • SatimasuSatimasu Member UncommonPosts: 900

    Good to see you're enjoying it. Happy Adventuring!

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  • Focus*BankaiFocus*Bankai Member Posts: 219

    yeah my times in the ffxi game was great. the community was great as well. only reason i stopped was because of the farmers. made things waay 2 expensive but i might come back seeing that SE is getting rid of them :) now if ncsoft will do that with lineage 2

  • ArchendrusXArchendrusX Member UncommonPosts: 46

    Oooo Oooo, I just thought of a question I had.  The expansions,  are they max level only or can you start them whenever?

  • SatimasuSatimasu Member UncommonPosts: 900

    You can start them whenever...except for Zilart pretty much. In which you'd have to be at least rank 6.

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  • Darkseth12Darkseth12 Member Posts: 148

    EPN what class are you? and what server?

  • ArchendrusXArchendrusX Member UncommonPosts: 46

    Ahhh, right on.  Good to know that I can bounce around a bit.....As for class and server... I'm currently a level 15 Elvaan Warrior on Bahamut, under the name "Lesoria"

  • poopypoowupoopypoowu Member Posts: 73

    Hehe, it's so good to hear someone liking FFXI, it's been awhile since people loved it or expressed on the forums....

    I went back to FFXI twice, but everytime I started, i felt so lonely, no1 to play with and such, so i quit... sadly...

     

  • ChrisMatternChrisMattern Member Posts: 1,478


    Originally posted by EPN.Burbs
    Oooo Oooo, I just thought of a question I had. The expansions, are they max level only or can you start them whenever?

    None *require* you to be max level. Generally, there's something substantial in each of the expansions there for people as low as 30. Rise of the Zilart is actually pretty much *required* at 25, as just about everybody 25-30 levels in the jungles of Elshimo, and that's an expansion area; can't go there if you don't have Zilart. As far as the main storylines go, Zilart requires you to be Rank 6 to start it, which means you'll be 55-60 at least unless a high level killed the Shadow Lord for you to get you Rank 6. You'll need to be at least that level to start doing the Zilart missions, too, unless, again, you let a high-level carry you. Chains of Promathia starts out with missions where you're capped at 30, and moves the cap upwards as you move along. You'll pretty much need to be at least at the level cap to do these; high-levels can't do these for you, they'll be capped too. Treasures of Aht Urhgan requires you to be at least 50, and you can start it at that level, but you'll need to be higher level as you move through the missions. There's some nice rewards to be had for just starting things out at 50, though. You'll pretty much need to be max level to *finish* any of these, though.

    Chris Mattern

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    Originally posted by Focus*Bankai


    yeah my times in the ffxi game was great. the community was great as well. only reason i stopped was because of the farmers. made things waay 2 expensive but i might come back seeing that SE is getting rid of them :) now if ncsoft will do that with lineage 2

    /em hopes Focus*Bankai isn't holding his breath on the L2 part...

    But yes, it's awesome to see the difference in prices now on FFXI since SE's been taking serious action against RMT and related activities. And it does seriously make companies like NCSoft who claim they're fighting RMT look ridiculous.

    And to the OP - Welcome! Glad you're enjoying FFXI! Damn... it's so rare to see so positive a review from a new player so early on. My experiences of the early game from other people has always been "when does it pick up?". Good news is, it does. A good friend of mine is new to the game and is really enjoying it alot. He's brought another friend to the game already, with a few more to follow. That's awesome,since I'm going to have the chance to help out some more new players get used to the game... something I enjoy.

    So... /welcome!

    What server are you on by the way?

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    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    Originally posted by ChrisMattern


     

    Originally posted by EPN.Burbs

    Oooo Oooo, I just thought of a question I had. The expansions, are they max level only or can you start them whenever?

     

    None *require* you to be max level. Generally, there's something substantial in each of the expansions there for people as low as 30. Rise of the Zilart is actually pretty much *required* at 25, as just about everybody 25-30 levels in the jungles of Elshimo, and that's an expansion area; can't go there if you don't have Zilart. As far as the main storylines go, Zilart requires you to be Rank 6 to start it, which means you'll be 55-60 at least unless a high level killed the Shadow Lord for you to get you Rank 6. You'll need to be at least that level to start doing the Zilart missions, too, unless, again, you let a high-level carry you. Chains of Promathia starts out with missions where you're capped at 30, and moves the cap upwards as you move along. You'll pretty much need to be at least at the level cap to do these; high-levels can't do these for you, they'll be capped too. Treasures of Aht Urhgan requires you to be at least 50, and you can start it at that level, but you'll need to be higher level as you move through the missions. There's some nice rewards to be had for just starting things out at 50, though. You'll pretty much need to be max level to *finish* any of these, though.

    Chris Mattern

    Indeed. Another aspect of FFXI that I love is that SE designed much of the content so it is a challenge to the player by putting in those level caps - you can't simply have a high level plow through it all for you. I know a few people who hate that - but then they're the type who want a "guaranteed victory" every fight, and want to "quit the game" when they lose (ie. sore losers). This is one of the contributing factors, I think, to FFXI's lasting appeal - long after people have gotten to level cap - a few times over - have grown bored with and left other MMOs, people are still playing FFXI and experiencing new content because you can't solo or plow through it.

    Anyone here who's played FFXI for a time notice how there's next to no complaints (I've never seen one, personally) about a "lack of end-game" in FFXI, even while it's a regular complaint in the newer, so-called "casual" MMOs? 

    A: Because there's so much to do in FFXI that you really can't run out of things to do... especially with SE adding brand-new content on a regular basis as they do. 

    B: Because it takes more time and effort to get there - you can't by-pass all the content and run straight for end-game like you can in other MMOs - so the player is experiencing tons of content all along their way.

    In my experience, there is never a period of time in FFXI where a player isn't striving for *some* goal, and likely has several others in queue. I hardly ever hear of people being bored with the game - right up to and including people who've been playing since launch and have leveled several jobs to 75, completed the different storylines and so forth - they are still finding things to do that they hadn't done yet. That's saying something.

     

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • SuplyndmndSuplyndmnd Member Posts: 553

    "In my experience, there is never a period of time in FFXI where a player isn't striving for *some* goal, and likely has several others in queue. "

    Several? I have about 4 dozen.  I need gil, armor for sam, armor for war, i need to finish my promy's, mission 6 in ToAU, I need to keep leveling my cooking, which, I need to farm ingredients or stuff to sell for gil to buy the ingredients I cant farm but I also have to save up assault points... well, yeah, my list is expansive. 

    This game is *nuts* with stuff to do.  And it's not all end game.  Oh yeah, i have main missions to do... crap... bbl =)

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  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    Originally posted by Suplyndmnd


    "In my experience, there is never a period of time in FFXI where a player isn't striving for *some* goal, and likely has several others in queue. "
    Several? I have about 4 dozen.  I need gil, armor for sam, armor for war, i need to finish my promy's, mission 6 in ToAU, I need to keep leveling my cooking, which, I need to farm ingredients or stuff to sell for gil to buy the ingredients I cant farm but I also have to save up assault points... well, yeah, my list is expansive. 
    This game is *nuts* with stuff to do.  And it's not all end game.  Oh yeah, i have main missions to do... crap... bbl =)
    ... and then there's still this!



    http://www.gamespot.com/video/939477/6174220/final-fantasy-xi-wings-of-the-goddess-official-trailer-1



    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Wings_of_the_Goddess_E3_Preview



    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161097

    - New jobs!

    - All of the original FFXI areas (30 in all) "renewed" to their Pre-Crystal War state

    - who knows what else...



    Unbelievable... This game just keeps getting more and more enormous.

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • snipergsniperg Member Posts: 863

    Yeah and I hope they actually put some thought in the new jobs and not go with the "hybrid" type again

    Although I will keep my enthusiasm till I see it, I really hope they add stuff for low to mid level jobs, because it starts to get annoying to see every 75'er to breeze through every single thing these days

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  • ArchendrusXArchendrusX Member UncommonPosts: 46

    Originally posted by WSIMike


     
    Originally posted by Focus*Bankai


    yeah my times in the ffxi game was great. the community was great as well. only reason i stopped was because of the farmers. made things waay 2 expensive but i might come back seeing that SE is getting rid of them :) now if ncsoft will do that with lineage 2

     

    /em hopes Focus*Bankai isn't holding his breath on the L2 part...

    But yes, it's awesome to see the difference in prices now on FFXI since SE's been taking serious action against RMT and related activities. And it does seriously make companies like NCSoft who claim they're fighting RMT look ridiculous.

    And to the OP - Welcome! Glad you're enjoying FFXI! Damn... it's so rare to see so positive a review from a new player so early on. My experiences of the early game from other people has always been "when does it pick up?". Good news is, it does. A good friend of mine is new to the game and is really enjoying it alot. He's brought another friend to the game already, with a few more to follow. That's awesome,since I'm going to have the chance to help out some more new players get used to the game... something I enjoy.

    So... /welcome!

    What server are you on by the way?


    lol, I can see where people feel the game is slow.  It doesn't bother me though.  I like to take my time and really dig in, which I'm getting plenty of opportunity to do here.  Heh heh, not to say I'm slacking off though :)  I've tried plenty of other MMO's but I always felt like it was the same old game (Yup, there's my hotbar, chatbox, minimap etc) and that there's really nothing special ahead 'cept stronger mobs.  Hell, even grinding is fun because the party has to work as a whole and not just nuke everything is sight.  Needless to say, I'll be stickin' around for awhile :) 

    Oh yeah, I'm on Bahamaut

  • ArchendrusXArchendrusX Member UncommonPosts: 46

    Originally posted by ChrisMattern


     

    Originally posted by EPN.Burbs

    Oooo Oooo, I just thought of a question I had. The expansions, are they max level only or can you start them whenever?

     

    None *require* you to be max level. Generally, there's something substantial in each of the expansions there for people as low as 30. Rise of the Zilart is actually pretty much *required* at 25, as just about everybody 25-30 levels in the jungles of Elshimo, and that's an expansion area; can't go there if you don't have Zilart. As far as the main storylines go, Zilart requires you to be Rank 6 to start it, which means you'll be 55-60 at least unless a high level killed the Shadow Lord for you to get you Rank 6. You'll need to be at least that level to start doing the Zilart missions, too, unless, again, you let a high-level carry you. Chains of Promathia starts out with missions where you're capped at 30, and moves the cap upwards as you move along. You'll pretty much need to be at least at the level cap to do these; high-levels can't do these for you, they'll be capped too. Treasures of Aht Urhgan requires you to be at least 50, and you can start it at that level, but you'll need to be higher level as you move through the missions. There's some nice rewards to be had for just starting things out at 50, though. You'll pretty much need to be max level to *finish* any of these, though.

    Chris Mattern

    Awesome, thanks for the info!  I probably shouldv'e thrown this in there with my original question but I just thought of it now.  As far as storyline continuity goes, would it be advisable to finsh the original missions before moving on to the expansions?  In other words, would it be like watching Return of the Jedi before seeing A New Hope? lol

     

  • ChrisMatternChrisMattern Member Posts: 1,478


    Originally posted by EPN.Burbs
    Originally posted by ChrisMattern

    Originally posted by EPN.Burbs
    Oooo Oooo, I just thought of a question I had. The expansions, are they max level only or can you start them whenever?

    None *require* you to be max level. Generally, there's something substantial in each of the expansions there for people as low as 30. Rise of the Zilart is actually pretty much *required* at 25, as just about everybody 25-30 levels in the jungles of Elshimo, and that's an expansion area; can't go there if you don't have Zilart. As far as the main storylines go, Zilart requires you to be Rank 6 to start it, which means you'll be 55-60 at least unless a high level killed the Shadow Lord for you to get you Rank 6. You'll need to be at least that level to start doing the Zilart missions, too, unless, again, you let a high-level carry you. Chains of Promathia starts out with missions where you're capped at 30, and moves the cap upwards as you move along. You'll pretty much need to be at least at the level cap to do these; high-levels can't do these for you, they'll be capped too. Treasures of Aht Urhgan requires you to be at least 50, and you can start it at that level, but you'll need to be higher level as you move through the missions. There's some nice rewards to be had for just starting things out at 50, though. You'll pretty much need to be max level to *finish* any of these, though.
    Chris Mattern


    Awesome, thanks for the info! I probably shouldv'e thrown this in there with my original question but I just thought of it now. As far as storyline continuity goes, would it be advisable to finsh the original missions before moving on to the expansions? In other words, would it be like watching Return of the Jedi before seeing A New Hope? lol

    OK, I screwed up on one point here. There is *no* level requirement on starting the AU missions; I'm not sure where I picked up the impression that there is. The first mission is just cutscenes and can be done by anybody with AU access. The second AU mission (which is where you get your mercenary status and access to fun things like the Mog Locker (more storage space) and 300 gil teles from the home nations to Whitegate (if you've done the Lure of the Wildcat quest in that city)) requires you to move across very high-level areas to reach a point deep in them--it's aggro avoidance, not fighting, and if you're good, might as well be done by level 1 as level 75 (I did it as level 50 and died twice, ow. Level 50 had no chance of fighting these mobs).

  • I bought this game today with all expansions! So I will be seeing everyone around soon! I will drop by later and post in my char name seem as though the game is still frigging updating its taking the p*ss to update!

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