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Top 10 Reasons Y WoW will Die
Sariah
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1.) What goes around comes around, WoW masterfully took hundreds of thousands of players from other games to theirs and with the Fall launch of so many potenionally good games you can only assume millions will be leaving WoW even if it isn't a permanant vacation away.
2.) MMO's are like cars in the end... If you can afford it you always want to upgrade because it starts to toll on you
3.) Theres nothing new to explore, nothing new to accomplish. WoW has had such a strong player base that there are no secrets left and the "achiever & explorer" classifications will want new terrain.
4.) PvP was the focus on many "IN-Production" titles allowing those tired of WoW who prefer PVP the option of leaving their once obsession to explore newer more innovative forms of PvP.
5.) Fantasy has been played out, soaked in and hung out to dry for the longest now. Amungst multiple MMO communities you find former or current fantasy players wanting to experiment with Sci-Fi. With games like Tabula Rasa, Stargate Words, Jump Gate, Fallen Earth & Hellgate:London amungst others how can you blame them. People want something with tenticles now not pointed ears.
6.) Contrary to popular Nay-Say belief the new line of MMO's will bring something new to the board, In game group voice chat so you wont have to use vent, Better versions of Seige & PvP, Twitch reflex combat, New Worlds, New Stories, New objectives, New Secrets, New players things are evolving and are taken more serious these days.
7.) Even if someone says I will never leave WoW I love WoW... word of mouth is like crack to MMO's while you peddeling through the plains of WoW and people keep expressing how much they love "Insert Name" your going to be a little curious to find out. and you know what they say Curiosity killed the WoW.
8.) Cut off arm, Nade the opposition, 50 vs 50 seige, death mayham, destruction all in graphical direct x 10 beauty...
oh and Guilds like to stick together. If a guild shifts titles thats possibly 20 plus people no longer playing.
9.) Because you say it will not.
10.) Due to the BC appearantly people already started leaving WoW and it's rating lowered from 8.4 - 8.3 for the first time since release to a 8.1 .... if it keeps going down its equivilent to the 7.9 VG which is making upgrades and appearantly gaining soem steam... which will be cut short as most people already have a MMO they are just waiting for. The more people leave WoW the less fun certain players associated with them will have when all their buddies are gone sending them IM's about how fun this other game is.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
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Deleted the reasons I find false.
But thanks for stating the obious, of course WoW will die somewhen, the question is simply WHEN. And I believe WoW has well over 3 years to come, as long as Blizz churns out those expansions. After the releases of AoC, WAR, Hellgate: London, Spore, and all those other Blockbusters WoW will probably only be a Shadow of itself (though still a huge shadow), but IMO it will continue to crawl along for a long long time to come. Who knows, maybe they'll revamp the game in 2009, adding DX10 Graphics and some new Content or something ^_^
How can I explain this so it sinks in?
WoW could lose half of it's playerbase and still be the largest MMO ever, because no single other MMO is going to pull that other 50% away.
People try and say that AoC is going to beat WoW, it isn't. AoC, no matter how good, is not going to sell as well because it is an adult game. Parents are not going to be buying it for their kids, or at least not nearly as much so it already loses just based on that one fact.
Warhammer will not topple WoW. It is PvP based. If I need to go further into it than that I can. Not all people like a PvP based game, there is a large portion of the WoW community who has never engaged in PvP (or does so on a very limited basis) those people aren't going to leave WoW for Warhammer.
Tabula Rasa will not beat WoW. It is Sci-Fi. Many people won't play it just because of that. It is PvE based with some PvP, some won't play it for that reason. It doesn't have traditional controls or playstyle, some people won't play it because of that.
Is this sinking in? WoW isn't going anywhere. It certainly isn't going to be beat by any single game coming out. That's not to mention the fact that people have invested a large amount of time into WoW already. You claim this means they are ready to move on. For some this is no doubt true, for others it means they'd rather just keep playing because they don't feel like starting over in an entirely new game again.
A very large group of WoW players will not pick up any future MMOs. WoW will be there first and last. Of all those people who played WoW those who leave because of annoying problems with drama, etc. are not going to be coming back to the genre based on this new round of games. In fact, many of them aren't even typical gamers. There are housewives who have never picked up a game before. There are retirees who haven't seen games aside from what their kids/grandkids play. That population isn't moving on to a different game, they are not going to be playing games anymore if they leave.
WoW didn't take players from other games. Well...more correctly, it took players from other games and created an entirely new market of several million customers. Even without all the people who had played MMOs before WoW would still be the biggest MMO ever. Hundreds of thousands? That's a pittance compared to what WoW has.
Not to mention, there is plenty going on in WoW to keep people interested. The next few patches will be adding in some things that newer games already have, such as voice chat built in. At Blizzcon or E3 or something like that they will probably announce what their next expansion is going to be. When that happens you are going to get some people who will just stick around until the expansion comes out to see how it is (there will also be those who leave only to come back when that expansion hits.)
Fantasy isn't going anywhere. Fantasy games have been made for a long, long time. They still sell well. Games like Tabula Rasa will not be pulling in the fantasy crowd. That doesn't mean it's a good thing, or that it should be that way, but people like what they are familiar with. Sure, people say they want new things and they want to try something different, but in the end what they really want is elves, orcs, and dragons. And companies will continue to supply that because it sells.
Entire guilds quitting could happen, but you seem to believe that there is some loyalty to a guild in WoW. Maybe with a small population there is, but most will do whatever the hell they feel like and screw over their guild without even thinking about it. If the guild leader says they are going to be moving over to X or Y game, some may come, others will not. Most of the time you aren't going to be getting the entire guild to come play.
In the end, it won't be any game that is going to overcome WoW to be the new market leader, all these games will take away some, some will just leave to play single-player games or no games at all, but WoW will still be around, still be turning a profit, and will continue to do so for many years to come.
Although I do then to think these kinds of threads are an excercise in futility, I guess I'll weigh in. I don't think WoW is going to curl up and die for one simple reason. 8 million people are not going to suddenly come to the same conclusion, agree, and quit at the same time. That and the fact that a huge portion of those players are in asia. The big upcoming games seem to cater to them less than westerners. Of the two, I think that WAR will probably be the more popular with asians however.
eh good points indeed. I like to hear responses that are well thought out and explained. Now I did not assume WoW would get rocked INSTANTLY upon release but I do think over the period of October 2007- October 2008 WoW will lose half its playerbase .... Depending on a few things such as
1) Which games will be released internationally
2) How many WoW players are international (A majority)
3) Once you become addicted to something like WoW or CRACK people tend to not just go cold turkey or they kill themselves
Now regardless to WoW being the big dog on campus for the next 3 -4 years or not if you take even 4 million players or users or subscribers or members from ANYTHING it takes a big toll on it. Who knows what expansions WoW might bring i'm not even going to try to guess but WoW will fall like the gates of Troy
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" He who sheds sun bares eyes upon the darkness. For upon eighth hour of the blue moon the World will see the Warcraft fall"
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
Give it a rest. It's not going anywhere for years to come.
Wow, the OP used a lot of space for a rant that meant nothing........
There is a lot of games still going with less than 100,000 subscriptions so I would say WoW has a long way to go before it dies lol.
Im not Bashing the game when i say this cause i have spent my share of time in this game but people 8 million subscribers not 8 million players.
I am one of these 8 million subs and i have left so that leaves 7.999.999 plus the many more that have left. i don't think this game will die but it will lose a fair few but imo wont hurt it at the least.
The only reason i would wish for this game to die (not that i am wishing) is so i wont have to hear about this topic or any other "just another WOW clone" again.
Unless your still paying for your account, your account was not used in the 8 million subscribers number. Only active accounts (As in, people still paying) are counted.
Wow the poster used a little space for a rant that meant even less
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
maybe third times a charm. this has been discussed a HUNDRED times before. the only thing that will kill wow will be time its inevitable who knows when that will be and who cares?
Unless your still paying for your account, your account was not used in the 8 million subscribers number. Only active accounts (As in, people still paying) are counted.
So you are telling me that it has been sitting on exactly 8 million players for the last how many years...pls the sub base if playing or not counts and if it don't can you show me otherwise, i'm not having a go at you but to me your post states that in essence no 1 has left nor have they gained any one new? i mean look at scions of fate it has 17 million subcribers do you seriously think 17 million ppl are playing it... i dont think so.
Unless your still paying for your account, your account was not used in the 8 million subscribers number. Only active accounts (As in, people still paying) are counted.
So you are telling me that it has been sitting on exactly 8 million players for the last how many years...pls the sub base if playing or not counts and if it don't can you show me otherwise, i'm not having a go at you but to me your post states that in essence no 1 has left nor have they gained any one new? i mean look at scions of fate it has 17 million subcribers do you seriously think 17 million ppl are playing it... i dont think so.
Scions of Fate counts accounts created, World of Warcraft only counts accounts that are currently being paid for.http://blizzard.com/press/070307.shtml
Thats the press release that states World of Warcraft has 8,5 million subscribers.
"World of Warcraft®'s Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules."
Those 10 items could apply to most if not all MMO's. In time people will find greener pastures. Technology drives the MMO market so with newer engines and content people will move on in time.
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The Old Timers Guild
Laid back, not so serious, no drama.
All about the fun!
www.oldtimersguild.com
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. - Jef Mallett
Personally, I want WoW to be as lively as the downtown district (Toronto!).
WoW is like a wall, no wait... WOW is like a cage or a Zoo. Its keeping a lot of ppl 'locked up' and for good reason. I would hate to see AoC come out, and all of the wow players flood it, that would just destroy the game for me, and for a lot of ppl. As long as WOW is still alive, other games have a chance. I'm not saying WOw is a horrible, horrible game, that i would never PLAY!
I'm just saying the community isn't that...it isn't not not not not good.
For the sake of other games, lets hope the WoW disease is not contagious, and that it doesn't spread further than it already has.
Wow will most likely only die from extreme age over time. Slowly... slowly... slowly... People will leave. It will take years however. I doubt that anyone ONE MMO will take down WoW.
Is this like the "10 things I hate about you" movie.
WOW is DEAD!!
Long live WOW!!
The mysterious error 132,planted by government scientists into the WoW client during the war will eventually engulf WoW and reduce its subscription numbers to 4.
Then the new top secret CIA MMO will come out and will have subliminal brain washing messages that make us want to go out and drink brands of cola,drive certain cars and support foreign wars.
/tinfoil hat on,checks under the bed for spies,doesnt dare use the phone incase its bugged.
This is pretty much all that needs to be said in counter to any "Why WoW will die" argument. I don't even think SWG has lost half of it's subscriber number since it was launched.
Speculate all you want, but really, who cares when it won't be popular anymore? It'll go when it goes.
sariahs right..i mean when I did the trail recently it was SOOOOOOO EMMMpty!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean it was like so dead, there because i know more and more exciting MMO's are coming.
Sin
WoW was a good game while it lasted, but its not going to make it more than 3-4 years.
WoW was a good game while it lasted, but its not going to make it more than 3-4 years.
I bet World of Starcraft will end up taking its place.