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Whats with all these new threads? Fanboi zerg against AoC?
Sturmrabe
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Has everyone completely forgotten whats been posted in this forum 50,000 times already?
Doesn't ANYONE go to the official website/forum/FAQ or http://bymitra.com/ anymore to get dev quotes?
How can there be so many speculation threads on the front page and not even the one started by and constantly posted in by an AoC dev?
http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/134590/page/1
Whats with all the misinformation, willful ignorance, and 360 junk (clue: its going to be at least a year after the PC release, its not even in beta yet and has its own team working on the port)?
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
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Actually, no, these are the only forums I really read...except for the EVE forums since that's my current game...
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Actually, no, these are the only forums I really read...except for the EVE forums since that's my current game...
So you really don't want any good info do you? Now, way back in the day I'd come here to hear about a game, but then you clearly need to get the straight poop on something, though this place didn't used to be nearly so bad... i think WoW and the new MMO players that are more mile battlenet kids than anything are to blame
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
ummm why do you really care?
Unless you are paying the bandwidth or something just don't read em. I don't go to a lot of the fansites and only come here for the entertainment value. I get a chuckle out of debating obvious trolls and shills and there are only a handful of posters on this site whose posts i actually respect. I seriously doubt anyone comes to these forums for hard information about a game.
I miss DAoC
Why do i care? I dunno really, to say I "care" is a stretch, though I when i pop in here and see people posting stupidity I guess it offends my sensibilities and I have to say something... I'm like that IRL too though: Low tolerance for stupidity and willfull ignorance, and no hesitation to tell people exactly where they stand in that... and yea, unless someone likes blunt people I don't make many friends, though I don't like most people anyway so it doesn't make me sad at all
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
Well, I've paid the official site a visit but if Athelan opens up a thread, why not use it? After all some of the info is outdated or subject to change due to beta and long development cycles of games in general. Take the class info. They later incorporated several classes into one as you know, but they left the original post giving the old description in the pile. So when I for instance visited the site I came across all kinds of class names I had never heard before, thus I read through all the introductions of archtypes and specific classes. Only then to read the 'feedback on archtypes' titled post referring to the changes (what good is it reading feedback first, when one has no acquaintance with the topic involved after all). I'm not complaining about the site. It's neat, tidy and I enjoyed reading through most of it but people will rarely read through entire FAQs just to get the answer they're longing for. Just like people won't always make use of the 'search' function in forums (fortunately for them most really have rather crappy search functions which either find no results or too many, so that excuse will always come in handy for posing the same questions over and over). Bottomline, it's just so much simpler to open up a new thread.
But keep in mind this is mmorpg.com, not a dedicated AoC site with the sole intention of shutteling people to the official site. People come here randomly to inform themselves on games. They look at screenshots, read up on features, perhaps the hypemeter, rating, forum too and if they're interested they might pose some questions. Only then, when enough hype of their own has been built up will they possibly bother with the official site/FAQ and one can't really blame them. If one were to read up as much as you ask on every game on this site we really wouldn't have that much time to play, would we? But you're probably not a newbie on the net either and should know all of this. So what does that make your thread?
So you really don't want any good info do you? Now, way back in the day I'd come here to hear about a game, but then you clearly need to get the straight poop on something, though this place didn't used to be nearly so bad... i think WoW and the new MMO players that are more mile battlenet kids than anything are to blame
The problem is most people just dont want to know, they'd prefer to believe that 1/2 of what they see here is true. I find it utterly amazing though how so many people are choosing to "answer" questions when it becomes clear that they dont have the vaguest idea of what they are talking about.
The way I see it, if you are going to answer a question, you should be able to point to at least one dev post that validates your answer, after all the bymitra search makes that incredibly easy.
In the end, that's what get's people passing bad info around, I shudder when I see someone post on the O-Forums that they got their "info" on a site like this. Not that it's all bad here, enthusiam is great, just wish it was grounded in fact.
Well I imaging SOME do and its pretty sad..
Anyone who comes to these forums for real info is real sad in my opinion. I like the front page news but these forums are worse than worthless, except for entertainment. Anyone who is looking for info on a game would be a lot better off going to a dedicated fan site for that game. Hell look at the LoTRO board for example, the better the game the more trolls it attracts it seems.Just the fact this forum ( AoC) is getting a few dedicated trolls already gives me more hope for the game than all the hype that Funcom can put out.
I miss DAoC
Well I imaging SOME do and its pretty sad..
Anyone who comes to these forums for real info is real sad in my opinion. I like the front page news but these forums are worse than worthless, except for entertainment. Anyone who is looking for info on a game would be a lot better off going to a dedicated fan site for that game. Hell look at the LoTRO board for example, the better the game the more trolls it attracts it seems.Just the fact this forum ( AoC) is getting a few dedicated trolls already gives me more hope for the game than all the hype that Funcom can put out.
HA! Well I have to agree with you there...
Though, if you look at my join date you'll know that I remember a time when this was a good place to get people's 1st hand opinions that went beyond the hype, and when you saw a review and went to the "comments" you'd get the REAL skinny on that game... You were there too by yours, but on the tail end, or the begining of the decent, depending on your view. (DUnno about you but I lurked a long while before joining so I saw the best of times... now the worst of times)
Now? Yeah, no...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
Now I could be wrong, but is there as many AoC players in the WAR forums flaming and posting wildly inaccurate bull??? Cause I know I haven't been... I may be posting in the Vg forums but thats cause I was a beta tester gleefully watching it fail cause of how his bug reports and concerns were treated and all my predictions about its failing came true...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
I just hope AoC doesn't get as many haters as Vanguard did, because it seemed that Vanguard was really that bad.
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ahh conanboi's everywhere.
to the above poster - what you expect - look at the forum area?!! *passes some glasses*
Now not all the War fans are bad,there are some that are genuinely interested in the game.
But what is becoming more obvious is a post go's up, with a slighty strange pre answered question already, page 1 of the thread is ok but nothing special, but by page 2 we see more War fans than fans of the game that the topic was aimed at in the thread (wtf). (all having a dig at something pointless), by page 3 its chaos and worthy of locking.
When one person says in a thread about some element of AoC - "oh, i dont like that" not 1 or 2 but a good handfull of War fans pop over and all want a "pop". I don't know what kind of culture this is anymore, its nasty, its bad and backwards. There are people out there who really want to know more about the game. I don't know why there is an explosion of people who have something different on the agenda but its becoming clearer from polls and posts their allegiance is towards warhammer, and they post here to bait, personal attacks, look for trouble or try to cause it. We even have them admitting they have no interested in AoC, but they continue to post here.... why? whats the point? I know there are bad apples on both sides, but I don't or never have posted in the war forum flaming or trolling, why do I have to get a personal attack because of some disgruntled war crusader? That really shows the immaturity. What did I hype war - an 8, why because I really do hope it becomes sucessful, the more diversity in mmo's the better imo.
LOL i think you hit it right on the nail! Either way i still find it a little humerous (keeps me entertained at work at least) to watch the bickering on the forums.
There are less than a dozen people opinions on this board that I respect, not that I always agree with them but at least I figure they are genuine.
I miss DAoC
By viral marketers I think you mean me and the dudes from the Acolytes, but let me tell you, if someone wants to discuss the real issues with the information released about AoC I'll get into it, cause I know all the cons as well as the pros, I may seem like a "fan" but I just got so sick of the misinformation I felt I had to do something about it...
And while I bash Vantard thats just from being burned in beta and a quest to save people some of their hard earned money, its sad they milked 1 mil of hard earned money from blind hopefuls... Ah well, water under the bridge...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
nope actually you had not crossed my mind on that count. I figure you are just a bit on the harsh side to be honest. Hell I bashed Vanguard so bad I got two bans back in January myself, I was not very kind to Dark and Light or Mourning either LOL.
I miss DAoC
HAHAHA, come to the AoC forums as post "is Sturmrabe harsh?" and you'll likely kill a few people from choking with laughter, I definatly need to walk away and go smoke or something sometimes before I post
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
The general statements from AoC fanbois on WAR forums are that WAR has meaningless PvP, is made for carebears, and is WoW 2.0.
Which all 3 statements are just as ignorant as someone stating that AoC is..... well I can't think of any flames against AoC at the moment. What are people saying that's so bad about AoC exactly? lol (I was really trying to think of misinformation being spread about AoC, but all I can think of are doubts and speculation... hmmm little help?)
EDIT: This was directed to Sturm's question about AoC comments on WAR boards.
The only thing that seems prevalent lately is people saying they dislike certain things about the latest videos. And that kind of commentary even if it's harsh should be welcomed by the Funcom Devs, since they're making the game for the players.
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Im not sure what Sturm posted, however, I know we have had 2 locked topics and about 20 posts deleted in threads over the first 2 pages in the last 4 days all from self proclaimed war fans, one even admitted his post was a troll, half the people posted to bait, shame you couldn't of read what was put. One member Gondoli or whatever his name baited for an argument and even stooped low enougn to make a personal attack on myself. - So go figure with the title of this thread and the comments made so far. Constructive critisism is cool but when people bait, admit they have no interest in the game whatsoever, personal attack, spread false unfactual information on purpose breaking many of the rules of posting on these boards....
Oh I agree that it sucks bad when people do that. I just couldn't come up with examples of "misinformation." I've seen the personal attacks, and the claiming of AoC failing, and the opinions (sometimes strong and unsupported) of the game's various systems being questionable or otherwise.
I didn't get to read the blocked threads. Which is a shame. I really enjoy those no matter what board their on. They're always fun to read.
Oh well, I'm sure more will pop up soon enough.
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