I think you should add screen friendly/rating friendly as one of your criteria. I am looking forward to AOC as much as anyone but one of the problems I foresee is not being able to play it when my year old is sitting next to me.
EQ2 was a bit too time intesive IMO for my family life.
COX is really great I think for family people. It is a living comic book so of course kids like it too. This is something I play with my 8 year old and 13 year old.. good stuff
Thank you for posting a list, and I feel you did a great job of rating them based off simple generic facts. A majority of dad's fall into a similar catagory of limited time, balanced between family, work and other obligations. So based on the simple majority of dads, and what criteria may apply, I think your list is rated properly.
As a new dad myself, I have had to 9 months to ween myself from more time-centric games, and moved into less intensive, yet just as satisifying games; EVE Online and City of Villians. City of Villians is currently my favorite of the two as it provides me with instant action. Log in, PUG, anddo 2-3 missions, then go to bed. The ultimate selling feature for CoV for me is the Lackey/Malfactor system. It allows me to see be able to group with my friends who have progressed farther than I.
Awesome list! I'm a mom and I've played all those games and heartily agree that they are in fact very parent friendly. Even if you have no children but are still very busy those are games I'd recommend to anyone. Of course you can play any mmo and have a casual play style to it, but the games listed here are ones that are the MOST casual friendly atm whithout making you feel like you are missing out somewhere.
I'm sorry but I have to side with Perception on this one. The list of Dad-friendly qualifiers is so...(what's the word) so vague.
1) What are the specifics of a reasonable amount of time? If EQ2 can be viewed as reasonable then so too can WoW. Secondly, what qualifiers serve as the benchmark for "progress." Progress to me might be achieving max level while progress to someone else is a new weapon, or some crafting achievement, in which case one game for sure needs to be removed from the list.
2) To be entertained? I'm not going to even speak on how open-ended that one is.
3) You don't have to invest an insane amount of time in EQ2 or CoX? I guess that all comes down to the ends vs. the means argument, as well as your definition of progress.
4) A game that doesn't interfere with family? Um...it's a game, if you don't plan and schedule around family time or don't find a social network that understands your parental responsibilities then the fault lies with "you" not the game. While I played Everquest, WoW, CoX, Rag, etc we always had people who would leave at the drop of a dime to attend to family matters and it was perfectly fine with us (the guild/outfit). I don't see how a game can ever interfere with family.
I guess this comes of negative but that list is just so subjective that it's sickening. I suppose I see what you're trying to do but in the end it very much comes off as a shameless plug for your site. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, just that a list with baseless criteria really carries no weight for anyone other than the small group which supports it. If you had done a list that had more formal indicators such as:
A) Game allows one to level from base level to max level in a reasonable amount of time with steady loot acquisition.
-notice how I at least attempt to define the standards upon which I base "progression"
Allows for active, thought evoking, and fun game play with a minimal amount of time spent on remedial tasks.
-I again try to quantity what "entertainment" is.
C) A game that shows tangible character progression per hour/minute of time invested in the arena of....(gear, skill points, etc)
D) A game with mechanics structured around "short burst" play.
The list is great and I have to say I percieve that Perception isn't very perceptive as he can not see that the post is targeted at Dad's by Dad's Sure it can be applied to any time challenged group. Yes the reply listed some common sense rules. But the original was a specific group addressing another specific group easily percieved by reading all of the 1st post. Let me see ..... What gave me a clue? Ah As a father . . . . What do we consider “Dad Friendly”? . . . . Hope you all enjoyed MMODADS top “Dad Friendly” games countdown! . . . That!
Ah I see, yes it is easier to bash than to add content isn't it.
But I will try. As a dad of four who puts more emphasis on the kids and my wonderful wife than I do on my games, I see todays games of forced groupings to be a deterant to playing them at all. When I get to the point where to advance any more I have to be able to budget more and more and more time to the game it comes to be the time I need to leave the game. I have no problem doing things in a group but feel it should be a fun side thing to do not a requirement.
The baby wakes up crying .. who knows why?? maybe she had a fart sideways and it hurt. Yeah it only takes me 5 minutes to comfort her and get her to go back to sleep. No big deal right? Wrong!!, by way too many of todays gamers. 10 minutes later her year older sister comes out and says i'm not happy. Ask her why and it is becasue she heard the baby cry and felt sad for her. Cute! Sweet! But oops there went another few minutes ..... Turn back to the monitor and curses . . . another group kicked you out. Enough of those and soon your charatcers name is branded as " do not group with".
It is hard to be time challenged and find a game that fits that time challenge. It is nice to find a person or a group of people who give of thier own time to help you maybe find something.
I am not a Dad, but I am very delighted to see, MMOs got out of the niche of puberty males finally. Though we'd also need more Moms, heh, for the balance. I think that today a lot of people want their MMOs to follow THEIR needs and not the other way around, games bending people to their internal schedules and regulations. I support this idea! Not the least because I enjoy a more mature audience in MMOs.
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CoX is my pick for time limited MMO playing. And people don’t mind so much if you have to go AFK for a bit or quit out on the spot, compared to other games.
I also feel that I can play for 10 hours strait and not get bored, but that’s fun me.
And I have a helpful hint to any married guy (or living with GF) who wants to create an ultra sexy female toon, but you don’t want anyone seeing you play such tacky filth: Make a conservative female toon (full body armor) with a full length no see through cape. Then when you hit 20 use a costume slot for the ultra sexy look, to play with when no one is around.
When it comes to MMO's, I don't see how being "Dad friendly" is any sort of a qualifier to rate these games by. And this is coming from a father of 2 young children. Being "Dad friendly", or just accommodating to any parents needs, has more to do with your playstyle, and not the game itself. You don't go into a raid instance a half hour before you need to pick your kids up from pre-school. If you happen to join a group while out questing or grinding, you let your groupmates know that you might have to leave unexpectedly if your baby wakes up from her nap. You don't go into that huge PvP battle where people are depending on you, if you are in the middle of feeding strained peas to your fussy, teething 1 year old.
"Dad friendly"... give me a break.
/agree, god people will do ANYTHING these days to "justify" their playing. IMO if you have freaking kids, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
agree, god people will do ANYTHING these days to "justify" their playing. IMO if you have freaking kids, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games.
/puts Devony over my knee
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/agree, god people will do ANYTHING these days to "justify" their playing. IMO if you have freaking kids, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games.
IMO if you are in freaking School, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games...
IMO if you are freaking single, get a life, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games...
Anyhow... ignorant statements go a long way and can be rephrased in many different ways... What Savvon is smart about is called Responsible gaming... From my experience in MMORPGs, I think 90+% of players could learn a few things from his list of games that are easier to enjoy responsibly... The question is, what are MMORPGs are they a waste of time or are they entertainment? If they are a waste of time, how are they different than TV, golf, working on a car, etc... If they are entertainment, where do you get off thinking that Dad's don't get entertainment...
Some Dads work on cars, some enjoy working with their hands, some do puzzles, some read books, some carve, some build things, some play golf, some play softball... It's called a hobby...
I even knew a few players whom Parents and kids played together.... and one father that played WoW with his daughter.
Originally posted by qeldar What do we consider “Dad Friendly”?
A) A game that we can progress in at a reasonable time frame.
To be entertained.
C) A game that we do not have to invest insane amounts of time in.
D) And most importantly, a game that does not interfere with our family or work. think that answers your comment Perceprion , try reading everything someone posts before you bash them.
My point is that you could apply those "qualifiers" to any game or activity, and they are extremely subjective.
A) You can progress in any MMO. I imagine even those people who are not parents may still be limited on time, having things such as jobs, a social life, etc. And just because someone is a parent, doesn't mean they don't have a lot of free time either. Perhaps your kids are in school and you are a stay-at-home parent. That would afford you 6 or 7 hours a day to play, if not more.
Entertained... again, this is extremely subjective to an individuals tastes, and has nothing to do with whether or not they are a parent. I like what I like, regardless if I have children.
C) You do not have to invest insane amounts of time into any game. Every person can set their own goals in an MMO, and achieve them at their own leisure.
D) Every game has the potential to interfere with family and work, as well as any other activity. Again, this has more to do with an individuals use of their time, and not the game itself.
I can read quite well, thank you.
Edit: My apologies if I come across as a dickhead. My mannerism in text can be viewed as being very curt, but it is not my intention to degrade any conversation into personal attacks.
Ok ill respond to "A".
Parent or not i beleive it unhealthy to play 6 to 7 hours a day.
If some1 does happen to be a stay at home parent and is playing for that amount of time im not so sure this is a good use of time nor is it healthy for anyone.
The whole point of "mmodads.com" is to help point out the games that not huge timesinks but are never the less fun.
It looks as if you are being critical of casual gaming in general.
I find it odd that anyone would want to spend 6 or 7 hours a day in front of a computer screen.If i worked in front of 1 for that long why would i ever spend that amount of time gaming?
Sure everyone can progress at the rate they see fit.But that pretty much leaves out any kind of raiding in WoW right?
You guys are defensive, because you know it's true. No wonder there are so many fat kids, geez get out and do something with your kids. Idolizing the fact that you are fathers is ridiculous. Just another excuse to play games.
Why is it always the silly people that choose to have children? I swear that movie Idiocracy will come true one day.
You missed the point, didn't you?
You're a MMORPG player and 28 years old.. You are a power gamer and started playing in 1999,.. you brag in your posts about power playing games... LOTRO 50 in 3 weeks... WoW 60 in 5 1/2 days.... etc... You've lost all of your 20's to MMORPGs...
And finally, http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/1455718#1455718... your bf and you met in an MMO... that's beautiful... but you aren't exactly someone whom should be coming on a forum and lecturing people on Responsible MMORPG playing...
You guys are defensive, because you know it's true. No wonder there are so many fat kids, geez get out and do something with your kids. Idolizing the fact that you are fathers is ridiculous. Just another excuse to play games.
Why is it always the silly people that choose to have children? I swear that movie Idiocracy will come true one day.
Wow, what in the world are you posting here for. You're bio says you are female, (probably a lie) you're not even supposed to be playing computer games, they are for men only, being that females can't possibly comprehend how to play them due to an overall lack of intelligence. Shouldn't you be out having some children or something?
OK, my comment was baseless, mean spirited and w/o any sort of rational thought behind it..... notice the resemblance?
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I agree that CoX should rate very highly. EVE Online also seems appropriate. Guild Wars is a maybe. I personally would stop the list at CoX and EVE, though.
Your other choices also seem reasonably appropriate (although if you are going to list EQ2 and LOTRO then you might as well also list WoW because all 3 fall into the "have some solo content but high end is all time consuming raiding" category.)
Among those coming up "The Agency" seems very CoX-ish and should be pretty friendly. Finally, WAR's "public quest system" seems like a more casual-friendly alternative to raids and thus will probably work well.
Why not just use the correct wording and call it "Casual friendly"? I mean, dad friendly? Seriously?
Since his website is MMODADS.com and not MMOCASUALPLAYERS.com I assume he's trying to keep things in the spirit of his theme.... you guys take things too seriously sometimes....
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Why not just use the correct wording and call it "Casual friendly"? I mean, dad friendly? Seriously?
Since his website is MMODADS.com and not MMOCASUALPLAYERS.com I assume he's trying to keep things in the spirit of his theme.... you guys take things too seriously sometimes....
This is mainly because somethings in Eve are simply not casualy friendly in any manner. If some big battle is going on there is simply nothing you can do if your kid is puking or gotta go somewhere etc. The time-skill is fine but many aspects of the Eve-verse are not so friendly. Now most large corps are smart enough to set up schedules to prvent 3 am sneak attacks etc.
But either way I can't see how its more firendly than CoX considering you can do anything at anytime quickly and at any level with exemplaring.
Good list. I definitely see CoX being very dad friendly. I am really hoping that WAR is dad friendly....
I don't quite understand the few people on this thread posting such negative nonsense. This list was geared towards dads who play MMOs. Being such, I found it quite useful, as many other dads here do.
"...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"
You guys are defensive, because you know it's true. No wonder there are so many fat kids, geez get out and do something with your kids. Idolizing the fact that you are fathers is ridiculous. Just another excuse to play games.
Yeah, people shouldn't have hobbies after they've had children. Recreation is only for those who can't or won't procreate, and parents should spend every waking moment with their children. Taking an hour or two a day to do something they want to do is going to turn their children into obese, attention-deprived sociopaths.
You guys are defensive, because you know it's true. No wonder there are so many fat kids, geez get out and do something with your kids. Idolizing the fact that you are fathers is ridiculous. Just another excuse to play games.
Why is it always the silly people that choose to have children? I swear that movie Idiocracy will come true one day.
Wow, what in the world are you posting here for. You're bio says you are female, (probably a lie) you're not even supposed to be playing computer games, they are for men only, being that females can't possibly comprehend how to play them due to an overall lack of intelligence. Shouldn't you be out having some children or something?
OK, my comment was baseless, mean spirited and w/o any sort of rational thought behind it..... notice the resemblance?
LMAO in ya face momma lol
Good post and yes some people are taking it 2 seriously i mean i am a dad of 4 and i do get out with my kids but the time that i have to myself is when the missus and kids are counting sheep (zzzzz) so i dont have a heap of time on my hands even tho im a stay at home Dad cause i get left a list of all the house chores that need to be done (Washing,vacuuming,doing the dishes e.t.c) b4 the Witch get's home from work, As i have spent some time in all off these games i can totally agree with the list and please people who dissagree he is not saying these are the only one's to be Dad friendly but these are the one's that he picks as he's top 5 and they are pretty good one's imo.
I play WoW and CoH/CoV, both solo and with my 14-year-old daughter.
Of the two games, I find myself logging into WoW most often if my free time is short. That game is extremely solo-friendly if you avoid the raiding trap and don't obsess over having to have the "uber" gear. (And if you're a dad, you've got way more important things to worry about than acquiring some epic sword that drops once in a blue moon.) My main character is up to level 66 after 18 months of regular play. That includes going through maybe a third of the available instances, and wearing mostly green items with an occasional lucky blue added in. I also have several lower-level alts, from levels 14 to 46, so I've always got a character with a quick quest ready to go. WoW's rest bonus is nice to speed up your leveling when can't play every day. Lastly, WoW's mild death penalty is great for those times when you simply have to walk away in the middle of a fight.
I like CoH/CoV a lot, but I think playing that game solo is a bit of a bore. Groups are a blast to play but can be tough to form at certain times of the day, and I hate to join a group if I know I only have 15 minutes to play. On the other hand, CoX groups are usually larger than WoW groups and losing a player isn't so bad. CoX players do seem to be very understanding of short-notice exits -- as another poster mentioned -- but then again I've never personally been in a WoW group where people griped over someone having to leave in the middle of an instance.
In fact, I don't see the community problem in WoW that so many people in MMORPG.com gripe about. General chat can be a bore sometimes, but it's no worse than the frequent flame fests in any internet forums. And it's easy enough to turn off when it veers into bad territory. I've been in a few pick-up groups with turkey players, but much more often with mature, friendly people. And as for the supposed "kiddie problem" in WoW, I'll just say that I'd rather group with a sincere 9-year-old than some of the obsessed, know-it-all young adults that seem to be a significant part of the MMO "elite". Or maybe it's just that being a dad makes one more understanding of the way kids sometimes behave.
I'm a 51-year-old father of two great daughters, happily married for almost 25 years. Besides WoW and CoX, I've also spent some time in Auto Assault and Guild Wars, but not enough to form much of an opinion. And in the case of AA, my opinion would be moot anyway, but I will say it was fun while it lasted. I'm looking forward to most of the upcoming games for one reason or another. (Though I'm too old to get real excited over pre-release promises.)
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Just when I find a neat looking weapon or armor it gets old and I have to replace it with an ugly looking weapon or
armor .. wish I could keep my neat looking weapon or armor and just upgrade the stats .. hmmm something to
think about if your out there making games ..
please !
I think you should add screen friendly/rating friendly as one of your criteria. I am looking forward to AOC as much as anyone but one of the problems I foresee is not being able to play it when my year old is sitting next to me.
EQ2 was a bit too time intesive IMO for my family life.
COX is really great I think for family people. It is a living comic book so of course kids like it too. This is something I play with my 8 year old and 13 year old.. good stuff
Thank you for posting a list, and I feel you did a great job of rating them based off simple generic facts. A majority of dad's fall into a similar catagory of limited time, balanced between family, work and other obligations. So based on the simple majority of dads, and what criteria may apply, I think your list is rated properly.
As a new dad myself, I have had to 9 months to ween myself from more time-centric games, and moved into less intensive, yet just as satisifying games; EVE Online and City of Villians. City of Villians is currently my favorite of the two as it provides me with instant action. Log in, PUG, anddo 2-3 missions, then go to bed. The ultimate selling feature for CoV for me is the Lackey/Malfactor system. It allows me to see be able to group with my friends who have progressed farther than I.
Good list, simple and to the point.
Awesome list! I'm a mom and I've played all those games and heartily agree that they are in fact very parent friendly. Even if you have no children but are still very busy those are games I'd recommend to anyone. Of course you can play any mmo and have a casual play style to it, but the games listed here are ones that are the MOST casual friendly atm whithout making you feel like you are missing out somewhere.
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I'm sorry but I have to side with Perception on this one. The list of Dad-friendly qualifiers is so...(what's the word) so vague.
1) What are the specifics of a reasonable amount of time? If EQ2 can be viewed as reasonable then so too can WoW. Secondly, what qualifiers serve as the benchmark for "progress." Progress to me might be achieving max level while progress to someone else is a new weapon, or some crafting achievement, in which case one game for sure needs to be removed from the list.
2) To be entertained? I'm not going to even speak on how open-ended that one is.
3) You don't have to invest an insane amount of time in EQ2 or CoX? I guess that all comes down to the ends vs. the means argument, as well as your definition of progress.
4) A game that doesn't interfere with family? Um...it's a game, if you don't plan and schedule around family time or don't find a social network that understands your parental responsibilities then the fault lies with "you" not the game. While I played Everquest, WoW, CoX, Rag, etc we always had people who would leave at the drop of a dime to attend to family matters and it was perfectly fine with us (the guild/outfit). I don't see how a game can ever interfere with family.
I guess this comes of negative but that list is just so subjective that it's sickening. I suppose I see what you're trying to do but in the end it very much comes off as a shameless plug for your site. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, just that a list with baseless criteria really carries no weight for anyone other than the small group which supports it. If you had done a list that had more formal indicators such as:
A) Game allows one to level from base level to max level in a reasonable amount of time with steady loot acquisition.
-notice how I at least attempt to define the standards upon which I base "progression"
-I again try to quantity what "entertainment" is.
C) A game that shows tangible character progression per hour/minute of time invested in the arena of....(gear, skill points, etc)
D) A game with mechanics structured around "short burst" play.
The list is great and I have to say I percieve that Perception isn't very perceptive as he can not see that the post is targeted at Dad's by Dad's Sure it can be applied to any time challenged group. Yes the reply listed some common sense rules. But the original was a specific group addressing another specific group easily percieved by reading all of the 1st post. Let me see ..... What gave me a clue? Ah As a father . . . . What do we consider “Dad Friendly”? . . . . Hope you all enjoyed MMODADS top “Dad Friendly” games countdown! . . . That!
Ah I see, yes it is easier to bash than to add content isn't it.
But I will try. As a dad of four who puts more emphasis on the kids and my wonderful wife than I do on my games, I see todays games of forced groupings to be a deterant to playing them at all. When I get to the point where to advance any more I have to be able to budget more and more and more time to the game it comes to be the time I need to leave the game. I have no problem doing things in a group but feel it should be a fun side thing to do not a requirement.
The baby wakes up crying .. who knows why?? maybe she had a fart sideways and it hurt. Yeah it only takes me 5 minutes to comfort her and get her to go back to sleep. No big deal right? Wrong!!, by way too many of todays gamers. 10 minutes later her year older sister comes out and says i'm not happy. Ask her why and it is becasue she heard the baby cry and felt sad for her. Cute! Sweet! But oops there went another few minutes ..... Turn back to the monitor and curses . . . another group kicked you out. Enough of those and soon your charatcers name is branded as " do not group with".
It is hard to be time challenged and find a game that fits that time challenge. It is nice to find a person or a group of people who give of thier own time to help you maybe find something.
I am not a Dad, but I am very delighted to see, MMOs got out of the niche of puberty males finally. Though we'd also need more Moms, heh, for the balance. I think that today a lot of people want their MMOs to follow THEIR needs and not the other way around, games bending people to their internal schedules and regulations. I support this idea! Not the least because I enjoy a more mature audience in MMOs.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
CoX is my pick for time limited MMO playing. And people don’t mind so much if you have to go AFK for a bit or quit out on the spot, compared to other games.
I also feel that I can play for 10 hours strait and not get bored, but that’s fun me.
And I have a helpful hint to any married guy (or living with GF) who wants to create an ultra sexy female toon, but you don’t want anyone seeing you play such tacky filth: Make a conservative female toon (full body armor) with a full length no see through cape. Then when you hit 20 use a costume slot for the ultra sexy look, to play with when no one is around.
/agree, god people will do ANYTHING these days to "justify" their playing. IMO if you have freaking kids, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
How to play Perfect World in english
Currently messing with - Requiem Online
/puts Devony over my knee
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IMO if you are in freaking School, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games...
IMO if you are freaking single, get a life, you shouldn't be wasting time on video games...
Some Dads work on cars, some enjoy working with their hands, some do puzzles, some read books, some carve, some build things, some play golf, some play softball... It's called a hobby...
I even knew a few players whom Parents and kids played together.... and one father that played WoW with his daughter.
My point is that you could apply those "qualifiers" to any game or activity, and they are extremely subjective.
A) You can progress in any MMO. I imagine even those people who are not parents may still be limited on time, having things such as jobs, a social life, etc. And just because someone is a parent, doesn't mean they don't have a lot of free time either. Perhaps your kids are in school and you are a stay-at-home parent. That would afford you 6 or 7 hours a day to play, if not more.
C) You do not have to invest insane amounts of time into any game. Every person can set their own goals in an MMO, and achieve them at their own leisure.
D) Every game has the potential to interfere with family and work, as well as any other activity. Again, this has more to do with an individuals use of their time, and not the game itself.
I can read quite well, thank you.
Edit: My apologies if I come across as a dickhead. My mannerism in text can be viewed as being very curt, but it is not my intention to degrade any conversation into personal attacks.
Ok ill respond to "A".Parent or not i beleive it unhealthy to play 6 to 7 hours a day.
If some1 does happen to be a stay at home parent and is playing for that amount of time im not so sure this is a good use of time nor is it healthy for anyone.
The whole point of "mmodads.com" is to help point out the games that not huge timesinks but are never the less fun.
It looks as if you are being critical of casual gaming in general.
I find it odd that anyone would want to spend 6 or 7 hours a day in front of a computer screen.If i worked in front of 1 for that long why would i ever spend that amount of time gaming?
Sure everyone can progress at the rate they see fit.But that pretty much leaves out any kind of raiding in WoW right?
Personally i like the mmodad concept.
What is your physical limit?
You missed the point, didn't you?
You're a MMORPG player and 28 years old.. You are a power gamer and started playing in 1999,.. you brag in your posts about power playing games... LOTRO 50 in 3 weeks... WoW 60 in 5 1/2 days.... etc... You've lost all of your 20's to MMORPGs...
And finally, http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/1455718#1455718... your bf and you met in an MMO... that's beautiful... but you aren't exactly someone whom should be coming on a forum and lecturing people on Responsible MMORPG playing...
I mean seriously..
Wow, what in the world are you posting here for. You're bio says you are female, (probably a lie) you're not even supposed to be playing computer games, they are for men only, being that females can't possibly comprehend how to play them due to an overall lack of intelligence. Shouldn't you be out having some children or something?
OK, my comment was baseless, mean spirited and w/o any sort of rational thought behind it..... notice the resemblance?
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Nice list Savvon.
I agree that CoX should rate very highly. EVE Online also seems appropriate. Guild Wars is a maybe. I personally would stop the list at CoX and EVE, though.
Your other choices also seem reasonably appropriate (although if you are going to list EQ2 and LOTRO then you might as well also list WoW because all 3 fall into the "have some solo content but high end is all time consuming raiding" category.)
Among those coming up "The Agency" seems very CoX-ish and should be pretty friendly. Finally, WAR's "public quest system" seems like a more casual-friendly alternative to raids and thus will probably work well.
Why not just use the correct wording and call it "Casual friendly"? I mean, dad friendly? Seriously?
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I think putting Eve ahead of CoX is wrong.
This is mainly because somethings in Eve are simply not casualy friendly in any manner. If some big battle is going on there is simply nothing you can do if your kid is puking or gotta go somewhere etc. The time-skill is fine but many aspects of the Eve-verse are not so friendly. Now most large corps are smart enough to set up schedules to prvent 3 am sneak attacks etc.
But either way I can't see how its more firendly than CoX considering you can do anything at anytime quickly and at any level with exemplaring.
Good list. I definitely see CoX being very dad friendly. I am really hoping that WAR is dad friendly....
I don't quite understand the few people on this thread posting such negative nonsense. This list was geared towards dads who play MMOs. Being such, I found it quite useful, as many other dads here do.
"...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"
Yeah, people shouldn't have hobbies after they've had children. Recreation is only for those who can't or won't procreate, and parents should spend every waking moment with their children. Taking an hour or two a day to do something they want to do is going to turn their children into obese, attention-deprived sociopaths.
I am very pleased to see that the positive responses heavily out weigh the negative ones.
To those who enjoyed my light hearted list, thank you. I made it for you.
Wow, what in the world are you posting here for. You're bio says you are female, (probably a lie) you're not even supposed to be playing computer games, they are for men only, being that females can't possibly comprehend how to play them due to an overall lack of intelligence. Shouldn't you be out having some children or something?
OK, my comment was baseless, mean spirited and w/o any sort of rational thought behind it..... notice the resemblance?
LMAO in ya face momma lolGood post and yes some people are taking it 2 seriously i mean i am a dad of 4 and i do get out with my kids but the time that i have to myself is when the missus and kids are counting sheep (zzzzz) so i dont have a heap of time on my hands even tho im a stay at home Dad cause i get left a list of all the house chores that need to be done (Washing,vacuuming,doing the dishes e.t.c) b4 the Witch get's home from work, As i have spent some time in all off these games i can totally agree with the list and please people who dissagree he is not saying these are the only one's to be Dad friendly but these are the one's that he picks as he's top 5 and they are pretty good one's imo.
Keep up the good work
I play WoW and CoH/CoV, both solo and with my 14-year-old daughter.
Of the two games, I find myself logging into WoW most often if my free time is short. That game is extremely solo-friendly if you avoid the raiding trap and don't obsess over having to have the "uber" gear. (And if you're a dad, you've got way more important things to worry about than acquiring some epic sword that drops once in a blue moon.) My main character is up to level 66 after 18 months of regular play. That includes going through maybe a third of the available instances, and wearing mostly green items with an occasional lucky blue added in. I also have several lower-level alts, from levels 14 to 46, so I've always got a character with a quick quest ready to go. WoW's rest bonus is nice to speed up your leveling when can't play every day. Lastly, WoW's mild death penalty is great for those times when you simply have to walk away in the middle of a fight.
I like CoH/CoV a lot, but I think playing that game solo is a bit of a bore. Groups are a blast to play but can be tough to form at certain times of the day, and I hate to join a group if I know I only have 15 minutes to play. On the other hand, CoX groups are usually larger than WoW groups and losing a player isn't so bad. CoX players do seem to be very understanding of short-notice exits -- as another poster mentioned -- but then again I've never personally been in a WoW group where people griped over someone having to leave in the middle of an instance.
In fact, I don't see the community problem in WoW that so many people in MMORPG.com gripe about. General chat can be a bore sometimes, but it's no worse than the frequent flame fests in any internet forums. And it's easy enough to turn off when it veers into bad territory. I've been in a few pick-up groups with turkey players, but much more often with mature, friendly people. And as for the supposed "kiddie problem" in WoW, I'll just say that I'd rather group with a sincere 9-year-old than some of the obsessed, know-it-all young adults that seem to be a significant part of the MMO "elite". Or maybe it's just that being a dad makes one more understanding of the way kids sometimes behave.
I'm a 51-year-old father of two great daughters, happily married for almost 25 years. Besides WoW and CoX, I've also spent some time in Auto Assault and Guild Wars, but not enough to form much of an opinion. And in the case of AA, my opinion would be moot anyway, but I will say it was fun while it lasted. I'm looking forward to most of the upcoming games for one reason or another. (Though I'm too old to get real excited over pre-release promises.)
Great view about WOW.
I agree with you 100% and WOW almost made it to my top 5.
Maybe next time!