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  • WraithmireWraithmire Member Posts: 328

    Well, I do admit...WAR does have much better graphics than WoW...

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  • GDMenaceGDMenace Member UncommonPosts: 156

    Originally posted by Wraithmire


    Well, I do admit...WAR does have much better graphics than WoW...

    WAR does many things better than WoW.

    To name a few: PvP (RvR), character advancement, character customization, guild hierarchy, level progression, and equipment advancement.

  • LeociferLeocifer Member Posts: 86

    Originally posted by Wraithmire


    WoW, smells like WoW and tastes like WoW. This game will be popular, but the graphics suck...
     
    GO AION! Aion is the game you will want to play...not a WoW clone. In Aion, you can even fly and it has awesome pvp.
    Warhammer is more...orcs...elves...humans...woopdeedoo like I want to play with more orcs and elves and humans and dwarves.
    the game you want to play is...Aion! Choose it...embrace it...
    that is all from the Wraithmire station. Enjoy Aion!



    and also, the community is going to be exactly like WoW's community...Aion will have a much more mature community.


    Post station...end...again, Enjoy Aion!

    Cool you play Aion and I'll play the "wow clone."

    Aion might be a good game have you seen that write up of the closed beta? It was good... like the way they reviewed it.. not the review.

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  • WanglesWangles Member Posts: 9

    I just hope this games PvP is going to rule, and what if it is a better  version of  wow as long as i can log in and play and feel like i am getting some where in the game  other than a hack n slash grind to the finish then deal with loot whoring guilds. and since u guys KNOw that pvp in wow  is SO FING good!!!!  and gets u so far into the game....what? hell no?

  • ElgarethElgareth Member Posts: 588

    Originally posted by Wraithmire


    WoW, smells like WoW and tastes like WoW. This game will be popular, but the graphics suck...
     
    GO AION! Aion is the game you will want to play...not a WoW clone. In Aion, you can even fly and it has awesome pvp.
    Warhammer is more...orcs...elves...humans...woopdeedoo like I want to play with more orcs and elves and humans and dwarves.
    the game you want to play is...Aion! Choose it...embrace it...
    that is all from the Wraithmire station. Enjoy Aion!



    and also, the community is going to be exactly like WoW's community...Aion will have a much more mature community.


    Post station...end...again, Enjoy Aion!

    If AIONs community consists of People like you... no thanks, I'll stay at WAR

    I mean, you aren't even intelligent enough to inform yourself about WAR first, because if you did, you'd know that WAR doesn't have Dwarves in it, and it isn't a WoW Clone, and that the Graphics don't suck, but look like a Warhammer Game should look.

    So kthnx, sry you fail. And I'll 1-vote AION now (Just kidding, I'm mature enough to stand above such childish behaviour ^_^)

  • JADEDRAG0NJADEDRAG0N Member Posts: 733

    Blizzard coppied everything from Games Workshop for all there most decent games [The warcraft games, Starcraft and WOW ].

    The art style is unique and copywrighted.

    The storyline is differnt and copywrighted [blizzard tried to copy this and other eliments but got sued and settled out of court]

    Some eliments of this game is trully different and may be interesting.

    The classes/races are very different to steriotypical MMO races such as the elves and dwarfs.

    Frakly this game isant ot tet so saying its a wow clone is premiture.

    Aion isant out yet so judging it is premiture.

    Trolling rival forums to toute your game is just immature.

  • AngelfireAngelfire Member Posts: 145
    Originally posted by Wraithmire


     
    Originally posted by Riho06


     
    Originally posted by Wraithmire


     
    Originally posted by Sturmrabe

    Originally posted by Vendayn


    This is one game I'll avoid...a lot of people from WoW are coming here. That will mean the community will suck big time.

    Thats probably the worst fear for people who play WAR, otherwise its looking like a solid, if not very innovative, MMO

    Dwarves...Humans...Goblins...Elves...wow very innovative there. Oh WAR has chaos as a race, okay I'll give you that "innovative" feature"



    Oh, innovative pvp? Nope, three sides to choose from exactly like the three sides you can choose in DAOC, nope that isn't innovative either.

     

    So, care to explain at least 3 innovative features that are in WAR that haven't been done before?

     

    Its called Beta...and the NDA is in effect. While we're on the topic, what innovative about Aion or even WoW?

    yeah, but I want three innovative features that EAmythic have announced. I know they would have announced these "innovative features" if they could to brag about them and get publicity. And Aion you can fly, living vibrant world that changes, awesome graphics not more of this cartoony stuff. No Orcs, Dwarves or Elves.

     

    And WoW isn't innovative at all, they stole everything...and WoW pvp is the worst pvp I've ever had to experience.

     

    Aion ... innovative? You can fly in City of Heroes (and WOW actually if you count the dragon mounts).. not innovative, City of Heroes claimed a living city when it was released .. not innovative. The graphics look like a (Barely) upgraded L2 ... not innovative.  Heck they even are over emphasizing there fairly unimpressive physics engine just like they did with Auto assault which tanked. Fact is, everytime NCsoft comes out with a game its touted as being 'innovative', and so far they have delivered ONCE (city of heroes in its day). Theres absolutly nothing new or special about it. Its just an update of some common features from other NCsoft games.. fact is Aion may well be a great MMO ..but its nothing new either. Warhammer offers community quests ... very innovative, Zones designed for tiered combat with both Pvp and Rvr elements in the same zone at the same time .. also innovative, and end game city assaults allowing you to capture the enemies leader and pillage there cities resources.. name a game thats done that before? Warhammer isnt going to redefine the MMO genre either .. but its got alot going for it .. and folks like you havnt bothered to look into it and concider it on its merits .. only that it looks like WOW. Pathetic really.

     

  • CyBloodreignCyBloodreign Member Posts: 33
  • evil13evil13 Member CommonPosts: 359

     Mmorpg.com should have a troll contest at the end of each year. People should have an icon under their name, that say "troll" Clicking on it would give that poster 1troll point. Anyone loged in can give another poster up to 10 troll points per day. And at the end of the year the best trolls would win and get special titles =p like The War Troll =p

     Can you imagine reading someone's post, then looking under their name and seeing "lvl 127 Great Troll of War" heh, would be quite amusing.

     

    PS: Op, care to tell us why do you feel compelled to come to war's forum and tell us all how wrong we are and how war will suck because it's a wow clone, has cartoony graphic, and like every other fantasy mmorpg has elves and humans? I am just curious, did you have a dream where you were told that it is your mission in life to warn war's players about the evils that is war and to save them by showing the reaod to the great game of aion?

     Well, regardless I still think mmorpg.com should add a troll count to one's post count :)

  • checkthis500checkthis500 Member Posts: 1,236

    Originally posted by Sturmrabe


    A: thats one, and
    B: How different is it from sharing quests AO/WoW that makes it "innovative"?
    B: There's no grouping involved.  It's a radius on the map, and if you're within it, you get the quest automatically and you participate in it with everyone else within that area.  No grouping.

    Completing a quest with lots of people without grouping is how it's "innovative."

    By the way, your previous two comments were very nice things to say about WAR.  I was pleased to read them, but for a moment thought someone stole your name. :p

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  • BesCirgaBesCirga Member Posts: 806
    Originally posted by Elgareth


     
    Originally posted by Wraithmire


    WoW, smells like WoW and tastes like WoW. This game will be popular, but the graphics suck...
     
    GO AION! Aion is the game you will want to play...not a WoW clone. In Aion, you can even fly and it has awesome pvp.
    Warhammer is more...orcs...elves...humans...woopdeedoo like I want to play with more orcs and elves and humans and dwarves.
    the game you want to play is...Aion! Choose it...embrace it...
    that is all from the Wraithmire station. Enjoy Aion!



    and also, the community is going to be exactly like WoW's community...Aion will have a much more mature community.


    Post station...end...again, Enjoy Aion!

     

    If AIONs community consists of People like you... no thanks, I'll stay at WAR

    I mean, you aren't even intelligent enough to inform yourself about WAR first, because if you did, you'd know that WAR doesn't have Dwarves in it, and it isn't a WoW Clone, and that the Graphics don't suck, but look like a Warhammer Game should look.

    So kthnx, sry you fail. And I'll 1-vote AION now (Just kidding, I'm mature enough to stand above such childish behaviour ^_^)



    LOL - Do you still stand by the red marked statement? 

    On the subject - I have my own worries about this game, but Im NOT worried this game will turn out to be a wow clone. Because nothing I have read about this game states that it will.

  • ElgarethElgareth Member Posts: 588

    Originally posted by Wraithmire


     
    Dwarves...Humans...Goblins...Elves...wow very innovative there. Oh WAR has chaos as a race, okay I'll give you that "innovative" feature"



    Oh, innovative pvp? Nope, three sides to choose from exactly like the three sides you can choose in DAOC, nope that isn't innovative either.
     
    So, care to explain at least 3 innovative features that are in WAR that haven't been done before?

    Okay, I'll do.

    First of all, no Dwarves. Just Dwarfs. Innovative, eh? Not quite, but if you would have informed yourself, you would have known that.

    Second: Three sides to choose from? I guess you read about DAoC WAR has Destruction and Order, with three Races each. That's TWO (2) Factions, which is one less than THREE (3). Understand? I'll make it easy for those who are a bit slow... WAR= 2 Factions. DAoC = 3 Factions.

    Now, the innovative Features:

    Morale. A Bar that rises as you fight, and unlocks special Skills which you can use, or save up more morale to use stronger spells later. Kinda like WoW Warrior Rage, but for every class, additionally to Health, Energy, and for many classes a third bar, like Momentum, Grudge, Righteousness and so on and so forth.

    Capturable Zones and Capitols, dynamically changing Scenarios depending on the Progress. You are the attacker in a Scenario if you push on to your enemies Capitol, when you Captured it and the Enemy tries to retake their Initial Zones, you are the Defender. Scenarios Open Up and Close down depending on the Progress. So the "Bomb open the City Gates" Scenario will be closed when enough attackers managed to win it, so that the City Gates get bombed open in the open World.

    The best Loot and Crafting Materials come from PvP, while PvE also features fairly good Loot.

    Collision Detection. Tanking Abilities that also work in PvP (taunts for example lower the damage the target does to anyone else BUT the tank. So Either attack the Tank, or only do 30% of your damage to anyone else). Healers that have to use offensive Abilities to "unlock" their effective Heals. Tactics, little non-time-restricted, but number-restricted Buffs you can exchange freely outside of battles (You have 5 Tactic slots for example, and you for example have three tactics to choose from: 20% more damage, taking up 2 tactic slots, have 20 more action Points (your "Mana", usually you have 100, think of it like Rogue's Energy), taking up 3 tactic slots, or Throw back 10% of all melee damage done to you, also taking up 3 tactic slots. So you can decide if you want to have 20% more damage and 120 Action Points, or Only 100 action points but you throw back damage done to you from melee). A Chaos Chicken (how innovative is THAT huh?!).... shall I go on, or do you already have enough?

  • jor8888jor8888 Member Posts: 378

    Originally posted by Wraithmire


    WoW, smells like WoW and tastes like WoW. This game will be popular, but the graphics suck...
     
    GO AION! Aion is the game you will want to play...not a WoW clone. In Aion, you can even fly and it has awesome pvp.
    Warhammer is more...orcs...elves...humans...woopdeedoo like I want to play with more orcs and elves and humans and dwarves.
    the game you want to play is...Aion! Choose it...embrace it...
    that is all from the Wraithmire station. Enjoy Aion!



    and also, the community is going to be exactly like WoW's community...Aion will have a much more mature community.


    Post station...end...again, Enjoy Aion!
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  • WraithmireWraithmire Member Posts: 328
    Originally posted by Elgareth


     
    Originally posted by Wraithmire


     
    Dwarves...Humans...Goblins...Elves...wow very innovative there. Oh WAR has chaos as a race, okay I'll give you that "innovative" feature"



    Oh, innovative pvp? Nope, three sides to choose from exactly like the three sides you can choose in DAOC, nope that isn't innovative either.
     
    So, care to explain at least 3 innovative features that are in WAR that haven't been done before?

     

    Okay, I'll do.

    First of all, no Dwarves. Just Dwarfs. Innovative, eh? Not quite, but if you would have informed yourself, you would have known that.

    Second: Three sides to choose from? I guess you read about DAoC WAR has Destruction and Order, with three Races each. That's TWO (2) Factions, which is one less than THREE (3). Understand? I'll make it easy for those who are a bit slow... WAR= 2 Factions. DAoC = 3 Factions.

    Now, the innovative Features:

    Morale. A Bar that rises as you fight, and unlocks special Skills which you can use, or save up more morale to use stronger spells later. Kinda like WoW Warrior Rage, but for every class, additionally to Health, Energy, and for many classes a third bar, like Momentum, Grudge, Righteousness and so on and so forth.

    Capturable Zones and Capitols, dynamically changing Scenarios depending on the Progress. You are the attacker in a Scenario if you push on to your enemies Capitol, when you Captured it and the Enemy tries to retake their Initial Zones, you are the Defender. Scenarios Open Up and Close down depending on the Progress. So the "Bomb open the City Gates" Scenario will be closed when enough attackers managed to win it, so that the City Gates get bombed open in the open World.

    The best Loot and Crafting Materials come from PvP, while PvE also features fairly good Loot.

    Collision Detection. Tanking Abilities that also work in PvP (taunts for example lower the damage the target does to anyone else BUT the tank. So Either attack the Tank, or only do 30% of your damage to anyone else). Healers that have to use offensive Abilities to "unlock" their effective Heals. Tactics, little non-time-restricted, but number-restricted Buffs you can exchange freely outside of battles (You have 5 Tactic slots for example, and you for example have three tactics to choose from: 20% more damage, taking up 2 tactic slots, have 20 more action Points (your "Mana", usually you have 100, think of it like Rogue's Energy), taking up 3 tactic slots, or Throw back 10% of all melee damage done to you, also taking up 3 tactic slots. So you can decide if you want to have 20% more damage and 120 Action Points, or Only 100 action points but you throw back damage done to you from melee). A Chaos Chicken (how innovative is THAT huh?!).... shall I go on, or do you already have enough?

    wow, didn't know any of that...well now I wanna play WAR...F* aion lol, go WAR!

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  • cveseliscveselis Member Posts: 97

    Originally posted by Wraithmire


    Well, at least AO isn't fantasy and its unique. Lets compare WAR to WoW
    Races that are the same:

    Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Goblins, Elves
    Graphics:

    Well, just look at them...WAR just has a little bit better graphics, they look exactly the same really...heck even the jungle screenshots look EXACTLY like stranglethorn vale in WoW
    Lets see...there are ! over NPC heads in WAR...exactly the same has in WoW, seen it at E3...wow that sure is unique
    Interface from what I saw at E3 was almost exactly like WoW, except modified
    WAR sure is unique lol

     

    Why, what purpose does this serve?  Have you played WAR, and in the depth needed enough to state that it's the same game? 

     

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  • SynhellSynhell Member Posts: 67

    WAR is gonna blow and that's a fact.

     graphics sux and thats about the end of it.

     

  • BryanBoitonoBryanBoitono Member Posts: 199
    Originally posted by Synhell


    WAR is gonna blow and that's a fact.

     graphics sux and thats about the end of it.
     

    If graphics had a bearing on how well the game was going to do, then FF7 should, now, be considered an terrible game. Hell so should UO and WoW. But wait...whats WoWs fanbase? yeah, i love ignorant comments like that. No actual argument. No presentation of evidence, no real statement either. You would have failed in debate.

    I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad, The dreams in which I'm dieing are the best I've ever had.

  • AlienovrlordAlienovrlord Member Posts: 1,525

    I actually had an interest in Aion about a year ago but given the lack of infomation NCSoft has been providing regarding their game, that interest as been fading.

    And if the OP is an example of the type of ignorance that is present in the Aion community, then my interest in the game has dropped even lower. \

     

    Originally posted by BryanBoitono

    Originally posted by Synhell


    WAR is gonna blow and that's a fact.

     graphics sux and thats about the end of it.
     

    If graphics had a bearing on how well the game was going to do, then FF7 should, now, be considered an terrible game. Hell so should UO and WoW. But wait...whats WoWs fanbase? yeah, i love ignorant comments like that. No actual argument. No presentation of evidence, no real statement either. You would have failed in debate.

     

    And that's why anyone with any working brains cells regards those failed posts with nothing but amused and pity-filled laughter

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

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    It would be freaking awesome with a PvE server design by the Imperator design team!  Even if half the PvE twist ain't live at release.  As long as the server(s) is(are) up and runnin with a few key features adjusted.  

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  • ursinursin Member Posts: 148



     
    And WoW isn't innovative at all, they stole everything...and WoW pvp is the worst pvp I've ever had to experience.

    like, i dunno... the graphics style of Warhammer, you know the little models that... oh yeah WAR is based off of...... seems to me they are the 'rightful owners' of this cartoony style and if they are going to do it better, they should be allowed....  enough of flogging the dead horse... back to reading for me.

    "We aren't going to ... Period. End of statement."

    ya. ok. whatever.

    but what do i know, i'm only a vanbois i'm told.

  • TeranyTerany Member Posts: 20

    Aion is nothing but a Horizons clone.  I justify this statement by pointing out that Horizons had flying first.  Flying angels, flying demons, flying dragons.

  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092

    Thank goodness I have someone like you telling me what I like.

  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951

    OP:

    Either you work for/among the people behind Aion or you are a unwashed twat who gets off on trolling.

    Either way get out of here now.

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  • IchmenIchmen Member UncommonPosts: 1,228

    OH hey heres a thought instead of bashing a game that is not even out to buy yet how about you look in to what the game is..

     

    WoW is a clone of Warhammer. it was made back in 1990 by blizard to port warhammer to RTS. GW said no thanks. they named it warcraft. there you go.. WoW.

    Aion may as well be classed as crappy and blowing cause its not out yet either. BUT OH you didnt think of that cause your just a troll..

    im not going to bash aion until i have acually had a chance to test it in some fashion. same with War. weither or not either sucks will be left up to the person playing to decide as well as WHEN ITS FINISHED!

    i hate WoW fanboys as well as un-educated idiots who think they know what a MMO is when their only game they played is WoW...

    so do everyone a favour before bashing WaR again WHY DONT YOU WAIT UNTIL ITS FINISHED ALPHA testing!

  • WraithmireWraithmire Member Posts: 328


    Anyways, reading up on Aion its gonna suck BIG time, the beta leaks I've heard from Tabula rasa isn't good...so anyways, read the top of page 5, I admit that I find WAR very interesting.

    But then again, as we have seen previously...the more hype...the bigger the fall. Although I'll probably try WAR because the devs seem like they actually enjoy what they are doing and it sounds like it has good features.

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