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Lax, Irresponsible Parenting Blamed on MMORPGs
Lucifrank
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I came across this article on Drudge Report this morning:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070715/D8QD02LO0.html
Apparently, some awful parents in Nevada are trying to pin the horrible neglect of their children on DDO. This reminds me of the early eighties when religious organizations tried to pin suicides on pen-and-paper Dungeons and Dragons. Why, almost twenty years later, people are still trying to lay the blame on entertainment, boggles my mind.
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I agree, its not really the game its the person. My brother is probably one of the biggest couch potatoes in the world, but when he had his son; he didn't neglect him, and he also works for most of the week now trying to support his family over watching TV. Being a parent requires sacrafice and responsibility. These 2 were just too young to be parents. This is what I think the bigger problem is, people having children too young. When your in your teens or twenties you probably aren't financially-prepared or mature enough to have children. But people seem to always want to grow up too fast.
There is another long discussion about this article somewhere in this forum.
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
Babys having babys...21 is to young to have children, ever heard of exploring life before giving life. A person should atleast be 30 years old before bearing children.
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
Babys having babys...21 is to young to have children, ever heard of exploring life before giving life. A person should atleast be 30 years old before bearing children.
I had my time exploring life before I was married and had children. Partied all the time, traveled across Europe for a year, etc., etc. And yes, because when you hit that magic number "30", that makes you automatically ready to have children. And it is very irresponsible to have children late in life. 35-40 years old, well, you are old then. You cannot be actively involved in your child's life as much when you get older, there is a greater chance of birth defects, etc.I enjoyed having younger parents. I could relate to them more. There was only a 25 year gap between myself and my parents.
Stuff like this really tends to get under my skin. It amazes me how no one in society today has NO personal accountablity. Its never THEIR fault. There is always something else to blame it on. Just once, I want to see someone say "Yeah, I did something stupid. It was stupid but I did it anyway." Not "My oatmeal was whispering in my ear to go rob a 7-11" For god sakes, people need to step up and take responsibilty for their actions.
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That is terrible, How in the heck do you treat your own kids like that? The game isn't even that good so how can you get so addicted to it normal daily things cannot be performed. Those two deserve to go longer than 15 years. They should also get treatment or whatever they do in prison. __♦⇔Justin Hill♦⇔ (OldKnight)♦
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That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
Babys having babys...21 is to young to have children, ever heard of exploring life before giving life. A person should atleast be 30 years old before bearing children.
I had my time exploring life before I was married and had children. Partied all the time, traveled across Europe for a year, etc., etc. And yes, because when you hit that magic number "30", that makes you automatically ready to have children. And it is very irresponsible to have children late in life. 35-40 years old, well, you are old then. You cannot be actively involved in your child's life as much when you get older, there is a greater chance of birth defects, etc.I enjoyed having younger parents. I could relate to them more. There was only a 25 year gap between myself and my parents.
I said probably, and in the majority of cases people under 30 just lack the life experience and responsibility to be fit parents. You might be an exception. Not everyone your age has travelled across Europe or partied all the time. Most spend the majority of thier time paying off college debt or working to get a house. Also most don't have the experience of balancing a budget for themselves, let alone 3 others.
People have been neglecting children for years. The only thing different about this case is that it is because of newer technology. The same thing has been caused by TV, fishing, Disco, and laziness. It really just comes down to humanity. Some people are not capable of caring for children. I am sure these two would have been bad parents without video games, they would have just found something else to do while neglecting their kids. As for all of the posts blaming this on age, I completely disagree. My wife was a single parent at 21, and while it was very difficult for her, and the biological father was in no way responsible enough to be a parent, or even to meet his daughter, she was able to raise a child by herself at a young age not because she didn't play video games but because she knew that she was responsible for another persons well being and was willing to accept that. Now we have one of the most well adjusted eight year olds I have ever known. Not because her parents waited until they were a certain age, or didn't play video games, but simply because she had a mom who recognized that she needed to be responsible and care for her child. By the way her mom won't play video games on anything other than the Wii, but she is constantly asking her new dad to play WoW so she can watch.
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
Babys having babys...21 is to young to have children, ever heard of exploring life before giving life. A person should atleast be 30 years old before bearing children.
I had my time exploring life before I was married and had children. Partied all the time, traveled across Europe for a year, etc., etc. And yes, because when you hit that magic number "30", that makes you automatically ready to have children. And it is very irresponsible to have children late in life. 35-40 years old, well, you are old then. You cannot be actively involved in your child's life as much when you get older, there is a greater chance of birth defects, etc.I enjoyed having younger parents. I could relate to them more. There was only a 25 year gap between myself and my parents.
I said probably, and in the majority of cases people under 30 just lack the life experience and responsibility to be fit parents. You might be an exception. Not everyone your age has travelled across Europe or partied all the time. Most spend the majority of thier time paying off college debt or working to get a house. Also most don't have the experience of balancing a budget for themselves, let alone 3 others.
Only $5000 left in college debt and I do own a home. Been balancing my budget since I picked up and lived alone since I was 17.
This is the 3rd thread on this topic...
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
Actually my oldest brother did the exact same thing you did with your son, but my nephew is now 12 years old and is constantly playing online games, skipping school, and can barely pass his classes...My brother works almost everyday but when he gets home he goes straight to the computer and plays with his son never bother asking about what he did in school etc etc...but they talk a lot about the game they play and have good conversations...
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
but my nephew is now 12 years old and is constantly playing online games, skipping school, and can barely pass his classes
That's where the parenting comes in. I don't just talk about the game with my son, I do talk about school, etc. Imagine it this way, when I was younger I would play catch with my Dad and he would talk to me. Your just doing something you enjoy together and getting to know your children better.As for your 12 year old nephew doing all that, well, who is the adult? Who can go take the computer away, the games, consequences for skipping school? That failing, I hate to say, is your brother's fault.
Stating that being 21 is too young to have kids is ridiculus. There are millions of young 20's having kids and they raise them just fine. Just because YOU may not be ready at 21 does not make it a global truth. I had my first child at 21, she is now 13. I'm happily married to her mom/my wife, went thru medical school with that young child, and am doing very well now. She is a happy well adjusted honor student who scored 1250 on her ACT in 7th grade.
People CAN raise perfectly good kids at 21, that is not a good excuse for this kind of horrific neglect. I am willing to bet alcholol & drugs were involved in this case as well.
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
but my nephew is now 12 years old and is constantly playing online games, skipping school, and can barely pass his classes
That's where the parenting comes in. I don't just talk about the game with my son, I do talk about school, etc. Imagine it this way, when I was younger I would play catch with my Dad and he would talk to me. Your just doing something you enjoy together and getting to know your children better.As for your 12 year old nephew doing all that, well, who is the adult? Who can go take the computer away, the games, consequences for skipping school? That failing, I hate to say, is your brother's fault.
No you're quite wrong, its my sister in laws fault, although i do blame my brother as well...But the reason why i say its my sister in law is because my brother works in the morning, so then my sister in law takes care of them and when they tell her they dont have school that day she believes them and lets them stay home, now thats just plain stupid because theres about 3 or 4 school busses that passes by their house ( they live on one of the big streets) So she's too ignorant to understand that they have a schedule for the whole year what days the students have off etc...When I went to school I always bring home our yearly schedule and post it up on the refridgerator...anyway i also blame my brother because he's extremely smart (he was doing 8th grade algebra in 4th grade) and so he assumes that his sons would be able to be like him and doesnt bother to ask if they have any homework or not...He doesnt pay attention to what they do in their life, my nephew is going to be exactly like him when he grows up only not so "school smart"
i could be worse
The couldve been smoking meth.
and where the hell was the rest of the family while this was happening?
The article is kind of crazy, If some parents paid more attention to what their kids are doing they wouldn't have issues, so blaming it on gmes is just an excuse.
Not to nitpick, because I do agree with what you are saying. But you can not score a 1250 on your ACT. (PSAT and SAT, but ACT top score is 30something)
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That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
Babys having babys...21 is to young to have children, ever heard of exploring life before giving life. A person should atleast be 30 years old before bearing children.
I had my time exploring life before I was married and had children. Partied all the time, traveled across Europe for a year, etc., etc. And yes, because when you hit that magic number "30", that makes you automatically ready to have children. And it is very irresponsible to have children late in life. 35-40 years old, well, you are old then. You cannot be actively involved in your child's life as much when you get older, there is a greater chance of birth defects, etc.I enjoyed having younger parents. I could relate to them more. There was only a 25 year gap between myself and my parents.
I said probably, and in the majority of cases people under 30 just lack the life experience and responsibility to be fit parents. You might be an exception. Not everyone your age has travelled across Europe or partied all the time. Most spend the majority of thier time paying off college debt or working to get a house. Also most don't have the experience of balancing a budget for themselves, let alone 3 others.
That is one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever seen. People under 30 not being fit parents? Ha. More likely people over 30 are not fit parents. That is too old to be having a child. At 35 your pregnancy becomes high risk. Plus having children at that old of an age means that by the time you children are old enough to have kids you will be too old to play with your grandchildren. Great plan!
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LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
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Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
That's quite an asinine thing to say. I am 28 and my wife is 27. We have a 7 years old, 4 year old and a 6 month old - our children are not at all neglected. They are very happy and very nurtured. Usually when I play any games, I have my son right there and we spend that time together talking. I will read him text and give him the occasional turn. I will talk to him about what is going on and will have a great time together. And I make well enough to financially support us.
Pure asinine and assuming comment.
Let's put it a different way. THESE two boneheads were too young and immature to have kids. I don't have kids but I know that your children should come first...everything else takes a back seat.
Excuses, Excuses. They were too much into their addiction that they forgot about their own kids. It's a shame, but I'm glad the kids are better. I'm kinda hoping that they don't get the maximum sentence. Just a gut feeling that maybe they can learn a lesson with 1 or 2 years or something.
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I want to reiterate that those two were BAD Parents. It had nothing to do with their age, race, sex, social standing, or anything else. They are just bad parents!
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
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