Well, I am suprised you had such a hard time doing the newbie stuff....but wait " decided to ignore the next bunch of follow the way point and kill quests to do some exploring of my own".... Perhaps you should have continued on with those as they are not too hard, a bit of fun and contain a storyline to follow which isn't too bad, I don't often follow story arcs. It's called the legacy quest/s and will take you on to Jabba's palace a bit later on as well as provide you with new weapons etc.
While I commend you on your desire to explore as you see fit, I think it fair to point out that if, for example, a new player in WoW were to decide that instead of doing the quests and leveling in the Abbey, or Goldshire and "go exlploring" in Lakeshire or Westfall, they too are gonna have a pretty crappy time. Although you suggest you approached the game as if it were new. I suspect, from reading your post, that you didn't achieve this entirely given that you went off 'exploring' all these other planets, perhaps as you would have pre NGE? You failed to take into account the new level system which divides the planets into leved zones.
You seem to have a pop at the "VERY HEAVY" population by noting the AFK dancers/spammers. Again, failing to take into account the level structure and perhaps higher level people are spread over higher level zones? Infact your whole post has a negative undertone to it which comes accross in a rather apathetic and jaded manner.
There are plenty of MMO's that ignore scenery when it comes to combat, sadly. Gold sellers are a genre wide issue, and SWG recently took steps to try and prevent this, but failed.
Each to their own
Correct on "each to their own" and this is a response to other things in this thread too.
First, people go into a game with certain expectations/desires for what a game should be like. Even "professional" writers in gaming magazines can not be totally unbiased which is why some magazines list the types of games each writer prefers so one can understand where the person's critique of a game is coming from. Unfortunately, I now enter ANY mmo having experienced pre-cu and viewing games with certain desires/expectations as a result. I judge ALL mmos in relation to pre-cu. Can I go anywhere I want? Can I get my xp from killing random things or am I forced to do quest in order to level? Can I focus on non-combat if I choose to do so or does my character have to have a combat profession? Is the efforts I put into crafting valid or is it designed so either a. looted stuff is widely available and better than what I craft or b. everyone is able to craft the majority of what they need so no one needs to buy what I craft? Can I find a good group/guild easily? Does the game have a good community or is everyone busy with their own grindfest? If I make a new character can I level that character in a different method or will I soon find that character doing the exact same quests that my first character did? Can people group with whomever they want and still get good xp or are people wanting to only group with others close to their level? The questions go on and on........
Second, you mentioned something that was a big killer of the game for me....and a killer of other games for me too. The bit of being herded from one area to the next as people level. It makes it difficult to group; it makes it difficult to have active, living guilds; it makes it difficult to be a "noob" in a game that has quests requiring groups; and it makes it difficult to maintain a steady group of "friends." Why? Because it's possible to be in an area that people have either completed or have not gotten to yet. Because the guild is going to need to either be in the same general skill level or have clusters that are at the same level in order to do things as a guild. Because I'm going to need other "noobs" to be on at the same time I am doing the same thing I am as higher level people are discouraged from grouping with me since they get no xp and they mess up my xp. Because if my "friends" or I miss some time in game, the group gets separated by being at different levels.
Third, (and this is to address another issue in this thread) I do not know whether or not Snookems is a writer for a magazine, e-zine or otherwise. I will say that, as a person who "reads" a few gaming magazines (the ones you find in the store), I have seen less "professional" writing in them. Although the purpose of gaming magazines is to inform, they are not written like a professional joural. Gaming magazines are also written to entertain. They are written so a younger audience will pick them up. They are written so the "average joe" will understand them. Many times, the writing is more like one would talk to a buddy.
Also, while people can say anything about "sources" and who they are/what connections they have, I find it funny when others ask them for specific info. Believe what they say or don't believe but be realistic. Even if the person was telling the truth, do you honestly expect the person to give you the specifics about it? Someone is going to risk their job or a friend's job or their connections in order to prove that what they are saying is true? Honestly, I didn't get all hung up on the word "professional" anyway as people use "my professional opinion" as an expression. If a defender of the NGE wants to give their rebuttal to Snookems post, I feel a similar post, and an HONEST one, would be more effective. Give us an "I logged in and...." experience. What level were you? What did you do? If you grouped, who with (guild, friends, or random) and where? What was easy and what was difficult? What was the AI like? What were the game mechanics like? Who did you see or interact with?
I remember SWG review video very shortly after it just came out.. they were complainin' that there's too much downtime because players had to travel on foot everywhere on a planet.. then they were complainin' that a wookie got killed by Correlian batterflys and things like SWG is too borin' because there's nothin' to do... they just didn't like it and nobody can change that
Well, I am suprised you had such a hard time doing the newbie stuff....but wait " decided to ignore the next bunch of follow the way point and kill quests to do some exploring of my own".... Perhaps you should have continued on with those as they are not too hard, a bit of fun and contain a storyline to follow which isn't too bad, I don't often follow story arcs. It's called the legacy quest/s and will take you on to Jabba's palace a bit later on as well as provide you with new weapons etc.
While I commend you on your desire to explore as you see fit, I think it fair to point out that if, for example, a new player in WoW were to decide that instead of doing the quests and leveling in the Abbey, or Goldshire and "go exlploring" in Lakeshire or Westfall, they too are gonna have a pretty crappy time. Although you suggest you approached the game as if it were new. I suspect, from reading your post, that you didn't achieve this entirely given that you went off 'exploring' all these other planets, perhaps as you would have pre NGE? You failed to take into account the new level system which divides the planets into leved zones.
You seem to have a pop at the "VERY HEAVY" population by noting the AFK dancers/spammers. Again, failing to take into account the level structure and perhaps higher level people are spread over higher level zones? Infact your whole post has a negative undertone to it which comes accross in a rather apathetic and jaded manner.
There are plenty of MMO's that ignore scenery when it comes to combat, sadly. Gold sellers are a genre wide issue, and SWG recently took steps to try and prevent this, but failed.
Each to their own
Correct on "each to their own" and this is a response to other things in this thread too.
First, people go into a game with certain expectations/desires for what a game should be like. Even "professional" writers in gaming magazines can not be totally unbiased which is why some magazines list the types of games each writer prefers so one can understand where the person's critique of a game is coming from. Unfortunately, I now enter ANY mmo having experienced pre-cu and viewing games with certain desires/expectations as a result. I judge ALL mmos in relation to pre-cu. Can I go anywhere I want? Can I get my xp from killing random things or am I forced to do quest in order to level? Can I focus on non-combat if I choose to do so or does my character have to have a combat profession? Is the efforts I put into crafting valid or is it designed so either a. looted stuff is widely available and better than what I craft or b. everyone is able to craft the majority of what they need so no one needs to buy what I craft? Can I find a good group/guild easily? Does the game have a good community or is everyone busy with their own grindfest? If I make a new character can I level that character in a different method or will I soon find that character doing the exact same quests that my first character did? Can people group with whomever they want and still get good xp or are people wanting to only group with others close to their level? The questions go on and on........
Second, you mentioned something that was a big killer of the game for me....and a killer of other games for me too. The bit of being herded from one area to the next as people level. It makes it difficult to group; it makes it difficult to have active, living guilds; it makes it difficult to be a "noob" in a game that has quests requiring groups; and it makes it difficult to maintain a steady group of "friends." Why? Because it's possible to be in an area that people have either completed or have not gotten to yet. Because the guild is going to need to either be in the same general skill level or have clusters that are at the same level in order to do things as a guild. Because I'm going to need other "noobs" to be on at the same time I am doing the same thing I am as higher level people are discouraged from grouping with me since they get no xp and they mess up my xp. Because if my "friends" or I miss some time in game, the group gets separated by being at different levels.
Third, (and this is to address another issue in this thread) I do not know whether or not Snookems is a writer for a magazine, e-zine or otherwise. I will say that, as a person who "reads" a few gaming magazines (the ones you find in the store), I have seen less "professional" writing in them. Although the purpose of gaming magazines is to inform, they are not written like a professional joural. Gaming magazines are also written to entertain. They are written so a younger audience will pick them up. They are written so the "average joe" will understand them. Many times, the writing is more like one would talk to a buddy.
Also, while people can say anything about "sources" and who they are/what connections they have, I find it funny when others ask them for specific info. Believe what they say or don't believe but be realistic. Even if the person was telling the truth, do you honestly expect the person to give you the specifics about it? Someone is going to risk their job or a friend's job or their connections in order to prove that what they are saying is true? Honestly, I didn't get all hung up on the word "professional" anyway as people use "my professional opinion" as an expression. If a defender of the NGE wants to give their rebuttal to Snookems post, I feel a similar post, and an HONEST one, would be more effective. Give us an "I logged in and...." experience. What level were you? What did you do? If you grouped, who with (guild, friends, or random) and where? What was easy and what was difficult? What was the AI like? What were the game mechanics like? Who did you see or interact with?
Originally posted by Zorvan Shooting through the dunes at you is not even connected to AI, it's called collision detection. You should bone up more on game mechanics if you're going to be a pro game reviewer someday.
Collision detection was posted as a major effort in SWG back in 2005. I see it was just more...bla bla bla...from SOE. A ranged based game without it is just .
Anyways...
When will the SOE hater haters figure out that its really less about the game itself and more about the corrupt company that manages it? Honestly, after 8 years in development, even with the major overhalls, I'm sure there is fun stuff to do in this game by now.
Its just that its 8 years old (4 years live), its run by a POS company and its run by a POS company.
Why would I play it instead of any of the other 40+ mmos out?
Mustafar is an expansion planet, so you can't access that content unless you have the expansion.
I recently came back 07/07, i'm enjoying it atm, I've found a nice guild, love hanging out with them in our city, but most fun thing is the group hunts, nothing more satisfying than taking down an anchient krayt ,when all your team have died and your the last one left
There are so very many nasty things we could say about star wars galaxies. We've said them time and time again. Nerfs, lies, starter-jedi, just to name a few but one thing somewhere in this thread caught my eye. Someone, maybe the OP, was talking about exploration and that just made me go 'OMFG' one more time.
Exploration? Exploration?! Exploring swg nowadays would be like exploring my high school. I know every nook and cranny by heart and any sort of memories it stirred up would most certainly be bad ones. This more than anything is what really frustrates me about the events of 2005. The devs so clearly wanted to forsake their player base for this imaginary population of poptential customers who simply hadn't been exposed to the swg experience, so they marketed it as a knew product.
If it was an empty world, something similar to the progression server in EQ, I might consider starting over and building from the ground up. But it isn't, it's cluttered with empty player cities, broken content such as battlegrounds and uninteresting points of interest. From what I understand even the housing purge did little to clean up the landscape, many long abandoned structures still remain.
Yeah no thanks. Two years gone, break up still on.
Do you agree that game AI is important or not? Do you honestly think the current AI in SWG is good or not? The magazine is an E-zine and were getting ready to publish issue #1 next month. Its popular to those people supporting it. Which I suppose can be said about SWG Everything is in the eye of the beholder, but seriously, consider the first two questions with an honest opinion.
Shooting through the dunes at you is not even connected to AI, it's called collision detection. You should bone up more on game mechanics if you're going to be a pro game reviewer someday.
Give me a freakin break, he didn't code that mess. The ones who did code it should be the ones being laughed at.
I read the OP and I gotta say... I agree. I came back to SWG after a 3+ year hiatus.
When I returned I also hated the spammers and unbalanced server population in certain central locations.
The game is not nub-friendly or starter-friendly.
Space isn't right Shooting through the ground is broken Spammers and AFK gamers are permitted everywhere
By the way, I think it's funny when people say "you have no evidence," etc. It reminds me of "Bahgdad Bob" just standing there in denial of what's obvious! LOL (like the VG fanbois!)
- Phos
AAH! A troll fire! Quick, pour some Kool-Aid on it!!!
I read the OP and I gotta say... I agree. I came back to SWG after a 3+ year hiatus. When I returned I also hated the spammers and unbalanced server population in certain central locations. The game is not nub-friendly or starter-friendly. Space isn't right
Shooting through the ground is broken
Spammers and AFK gamers are permitted everywhere By the way, I think it's funny when people say "you have no evidence," etc. It reminds me of "Bahgdad Bob" just standing there in denial of what's obvious! LOL (like the VG fanbois!) - Phos
Oh yeah, the credit and level service spammers are everywhere on Bloodfin as well, and it looks as if SOE allows it. People used to bitch about AFK grinders pre-cu, the afk stuff SOE now allows is 1 million times worse.
I think SOE allows the spammers because it allows them to pad their subscription numbers from 20,000 to 50,000 (if you count spammers).
Nobody in their right mind would play this crapfest if they had the IQ to actually understand how bad it sucked. Go outside and play some sports fanbois... Do something, you bring shame to the gaming world by playing SWG: NGE month after month.
Snookems is a legendary player from the glory days of SWG/Ahazi. Famous for hanging out in the starports and providing actual content for other players, in the form of amusing songs and dances and monologs.
The sad truth is, instead of fixing bugs and adding content to what they had, the SWG devs chose to radically modify the game to make it more WoWlike graphically and playwise, without understanding any of WoW's great strengths: it's relatively bug free , polished, and they've got superb customer service.
If SWG had half of that, they'd be better off but they're in such a rush now to put things back into the game that the took away with the launch of the NGE and thoroughly trashed their own reputation in the process, telling tens of thousands of their paying customers to FOAD.
Oh, and many of the most annoying and frustraging bugs are still there, and sending in bug reports does nothing to help. So why bother paying to beta test crap that won't be fixed anyways?
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
personally I went back to find my guild disbanded my mstr doc no more my buffs turned into heals I think soo I decided to go jedi to hit lvl 90 went to mustafar was o.k quest not that bad got bored switched to every profesion stuck with bounty hunter logged on to pvp relized I been playing for a week and was bored whipped right through mustafar and almost hit ace pilot pvp was getting lame the same players went to explor my old hang out spots got depressed and left the game wondering what the heck was I thinking playing NGE!!!
You want loot? Go kill some npcs, you wanna visit hades? come find ME, and dont forget to bring coins for the ferryman,
personally I went back to find my guild disbanded my mstr doc no more my buffs turned into heals I think soo I decided to go jedi to hit lvl 90 went to mustafar was o.k quest not that bad got bored switched to every profesion stuck with bounty hunter logged on to pvp relized I been playing for a week and was bored whipped right through mustafar and almost hit ace pilot pvp was getting lame the same players went to explor my old hang out spots got depressed and left the game wondering what the heck was I thinking playing NGE!!!
Sieno couple of questions
1. You are saying your Medic had no buffs to give???? Did you bother to set up your exp tree. Medic BUFFS are in high demand. No you probablly didn't
2. You are saying you blew through Mustafar by yourself in a week?????? OK thats believable...... NOT
Try again b/c you just made up everything in this post. Or maybe you didn't make up all of it but the problem is you guys log in and have no clue what is going on so you get mad and leave and make up a load of BS..
"Great minds discuss ideas, lesser minds discuss things, and shitheads get personal."
personally I went back to find my guild disbanded my mstr doc no more my buffs turned into heals I think soo I decided to go jedi to hit lvl 90 went to mustafar was o.k quest not that bad got bored switched to every profesion stuck with bounty hunter logged on to pvp relized I been playing for a week and was bored whipped right through mustafar and almost hit ace pilot pvp was getting lame the same players went to explor my old hang out spots got depressed and left the game wondering what the heck was I thinking playing NGE!!!
Sieno couple of questions
1. You are saying your Medic had no buffs to give???? Did you bother to set up your exp tree. Medic BUFFS are in high demand. No you probablly didn't
2. You are saying you blew through Mustafar by yourself in a week?????? OK thats believable...... NOT
Try again b/c you just made up everything in this post. Or maybe you didn't make up all of it but the problem is you guys log in and have no clue what is going on so you get mad and leave and make up a load of BS..
Is Getoverit the biggest fanboi of them all??? This ISthe Veteran Refuge forum, is it not? Go back to the Current forum and leave us old cranky vets here to eat our own sour pickles.
Whomever has the "breakup still on" in their post above....that's rich! I love it!!!
personally I went back to find my guild disbanded my mstr doc no more my buffs turned into heals I think soo I decided to go jedi to hit lvl 90 went to mustafar was o.k quest not that bad got bored switched to every profesion stuck with bounty hunter logged on to pvp relized I been playing for a week and was bored whipped right through mustafar and almost hit ace pilot pvp was getting lame the same players went to explor my old hang out spots got depressed and left the game wondering what the heck was I thinking playing NGE!!!
Sieno couple of questions
1. You are saying your Medic had no buffs to give???? Did you bother to set up your exp tree. Medic BUFFS are in high demand. No you probablly didn't
2. You are saying you blew through Mustafar by yourself in a week?????? OK thats believable...... NOT
Try again b/c you just made up everything in this post. Or maybe you didn't make up all of it but the problem is you guys log in and have no clue what is going on so you get mad and leave and make up a load of BS..
What's the matter? Can't seem to find the right forum? You don't want us on "Current" then why do you come to the "refuge" and spread your fanboism?
This is hilarious. SWG has become so bad that fools who still toss money at it have actually started bashing people for their firsthand observations and opinions on how terrible the game is now. If somebody hasn't played they say "you don't even play so your opinion doesn't matter" and if you play it and say it sucks they say "prove it" or nitpick some mundane comment. And they tell vets to "get a life". LOL
This is hilarious. SWG has become so bad that fools who still toss money at it have actually started bashing people for their firsthand observations and opinions on how terrible the game is now. If somebody hasn't played they say "you don't even play so your opinion doesn't matter" and if you play it and say it sucks they say "prove it" or nitpick some mundane comment. And they tell vets to "get a life". LOL
agreed,
TBH the SAD SAD fact is that NGE lovers come to 3 company forums to get human interaction, since we all know there is no one in SWG to talk to lol
In the old days, we vets were in game playing, not harassing people on forums. Truth sucks and so does NGE lol
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Do you agree that game AI is important or not? Do you honestly think the current AI in SWG is good or not? The magazine is an E-zine and were getting ready to publish issue #1 next month. Its popular to those people supporting it. Which I suppose can be said about SWG Everything is in the eye of the beholder, but seriously, consider the first two questions with an honest opinion.
Shooting through the dunes at you is not even connected to AI, it's called collision detection. You should bone up more on game mechanics if you're going to be a pro game reviewer someday.
Actually, it has everything to do with AI. How? Because if the NPC's can't see their target, then they shouldn't be shooting in the first place. Collision detection has nothing to do with anything except animation, which has nothing to do with AI, unless it's dealing with Physics, in which case the only thing relating the two is that an Object or NPC's Physics kick in when their ability to think (their AI) has been replaced or found devoid, meaning they have no choice but to become vicitms of their own propreitary values.
HOWEVER! The Euphoria Engine developed by LucasArts is trying to make "Physics" more of a real time AI thing.
At any rate, you should bone up more on game mechanics if you're going to be someone who corrects people about their perceived lack of knowledge.
This is hilarious. SWG has become so bad that fools who still toss money at it have actually started bashing people for their firsthand observations and opinions on how terrible the game is now. If somebody hasn't played they say "you don't even play so your opinion doesn't matter" and if you play it and say it sucks they say "prove it" or nitpick some mundane comment. And they tell vets to "get a life". LOL
agreed,
TBH the SAD SAD fact is that NGE lovers come to 3 company forums to get human interaction, since we all know there is no one in SWG to talk to lol
In the old days, we vets were in game playing, not harassing people on forums. Truth sucks and so does NGE lol
Wow -- someone speaking the truth.
I like your quote and your honesty. Hmm... I wish people would have been more honest like this before???? Hmm.... imagine that concept.
I heard actually at one time there was such a place............ but I hear its gone -- although they are looking for a SWG rep or somthing -- or so I hear....lol
....ironic.
_________________________________________________________ lol @ rl_ _ _ shhh... kid gloves must stay on please,the truth may hurt.
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First, people go into a game with certain expectations/desires for what a game should be like. Even "professional" writers in gaming magazines can not be totally unbiased which is why some magazines list the types of games each writer prefers so one can understand where the person's critique of a game is coming from. Unfortunately, I now enter ANY mmo having experienced pre-cu and viewing games with certain desires/expectations as a result. I judge ALL mmos in relation to pre-cu. Can I go anywhere I want? Can I get my xp from killing random things or am I forced to do quest in order to level? Can I focus on non-combat if I choose to do so or does my character have to have a combat profession? Is the efforts I put into crafting valid or is it designed so either a. looted stuff is widely available and better than what I craft or b. everyone is able to craft the majority of what they need so no one needs to buy what I craft? Can I find a good group/guild easily? Does the game have a good community or is everyone busy with their own grindfest? If I make a new character can I level that character in a different method or will I soon find that character doing the exact same quests that my first character did? Can people group with whomever they want and still get good xp or are people wanting to only group with others close to their level? The questions go on and on........
Second, you mentioned something that was a big killer of the game for me....and a killer of other games for me too. The bit of being herded from one area to the next as people level. It makes it difficult to group; it makes it difficult to have active, living guilds; it makes it difficult to be a "noob" in a game that has quests requiring groups; and it makes it difficult to maintain a steady group of "friends." Why? Because it's possible to be in an area that people have either completed or have not gotten to yet. Because the guild is going to need to either be in the same general skill level or have clusters that are at the same level in order to do things as a guild. Because I'm going to need other "noobs" to be on at the same time I am doing the same thing I am as higher level people are discouraged from grouping with me since they get no xp and they mess up my xp. Because if my "friends" or I miss some time in game, the group gets separated by being at different levels.
Third, (and this is to address another issue in this thread) I do not know whether or not Snookems is a writer for a magazine, e-zine or otherwise. I will say that, as a person who "reads" a few gaming magazines (the ones you find in the store), I have seen less "professional" writing in them. Although the purpose of gaming magazines is to inform, they are not written like a professional joural. Gaming magazines are also written to entertain. They are written so a younger audience will pick them up. They are written so the "average joe" will understand them. Many times, the writing is more like one would talk to a buddy.
Also, while people can say anything about "sources" and who they are/what connections they have, I find it funny when others ask them for specific info. Believe what they say or don't believe but be realistic. Even if the person was telling the truth, do you honestly expect the person to give you the specifics about it? Someone is going to risk their job or a friend's job or their connections in order to prove that what they are saying is true? Honestly, I didn't get all hung up on the word "professional" anyway as people use "my professional opinion" as an expression. If a defender of the NGE wants to give their rebuttal to Snookems post, I feel a similar post, and an HONEST one, would be more effective. Give us an "I logged in and...." experience. What level were you? What did you do? If you grouped, who with (guild, friends, or random) and where? What was easy and what was difficult? What was the AI like? What were the game mechanics like? Who did you see or interact with?
I remember SWG review video very shortly after it just came out.. they were complainin' that there's too much downtime because players had to travel on foot everywhere on a planet.. then they were complainin' that a wookie got killed by Correlian batterflys and things like SWG is too borin' because there's nothin' to do... they just didn't like it and nobody can change that
First, people go into a game with certain expectations/desires for what a game should be like. Even "professional" writers in gaming magazines can not be totally unbiased which is why some magazines list the types of games each writer prefers so one can understand where the person's critique of a game is coming from. Unfortunately, I now enter ANY mmo having experienced pre-cu and viewing games with certain desires/expectations as a result. I judge ALL mmos in relation to pre-cu. Can I go anywhere I want? Can I get my xp from killing random things or am I forced to do quest in order to level? Can I focus on non-combat if I choose to do so or does my character have to have a combat profession? Is the efforts I put into crafting valid or is it designed so either a. looted stuff is widely available and better than what I craft or b. everyone is able to craft the majority of what they need so no one needs to buy what I craft? Can I find a good group/guild easily? Does the game have a good community or is everyone busy with their own grindfest? If I make a new character can I level that character in a different method or will I soon find that character doing the exact same quests that my first character did? Can people group with whomever they want and still get good xp or are people wanting to only group with others close to their level? The questions go on and on........
Second, you mentioned something that was a big killer of the game for me....and a killer of other games for me too. The bit of being herded from one area to the next as people level. It makes it difficult to group; it makes it difficult to have active, living guilds; it makes it difficult to be a "noob" in a game that has quests requiring groups; and it makes it difficult to maintain a steady group of "friends." Why? Because it's possible to be in an area that people have either completed or have not gotten to yet. Because the guild is going to need to either be in the same general skill level or have clusters that are at the same level in order to do things as a guild. Because I'm going to need other "noobs" to be on at the same time I am doing the same thing I am as higher level people are discouraged from grouping with me since they get no xp and they mess up my xp. Because if my "friends" or I miss some time in game, the group gets separated by being at different levels.
Third, (and this is to address another issue in this thread) I do not know whether or not Snookems is a writer for a magazine, e-zine or otherwise. I will say that, as a person who "reads" a few gaming magazines (the ones you find in the store), I have seen less "professional" writing in them. Although the purpose of gaming magazines is to inform, they are not written like a professional joural. Gaming magazines are also written to entertain. They are written so a younger audience will pick them up. They are written so the "average joe" will understand them. Many times, the writing is more like one would talk to a buddy.
Also, while people can say anything about "sources" and who they are/what connections they have, I find it funny when others ask them for specific info. Believe what they say or don't believe but be realistic. Even if the person was telling the truth, do you honestly expect the person to give you the specifics about it? Someone is going to risk their job or a friend's job or their connections in order to prove that what they are saying is true? Honestly, I didn't get all hung up on the word "professional" anyway as people use "my professional opinion" as an expression. If a defender of the NGE wants to give their rebuttal to Snookems post, I feel a similar post, and an HONEST one, would be more effective. Give us an "I logged in and...." experience. What level were you? What did you do? If you grouped, who with (guild, friends, or random) and where? What was easy and what was difficult? What was the AI like? What were the game mechanics like? Who did you see or interact with?
i'd vote this best post of day.
I went back to swg and actually now I prefer it to the pre NGE
I also tried it again recently using a trial account and quite frankly I found it to be rather 2 dimensional and remarkably boring.
Just curious
"The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the na
Just curious
Combat
cool and thanks for the reply
"The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the na
Anyways...
When will the SOE hater haters figure out that its really less about the game itself and more about the corrupt company that manages it? Honestly, after 8 years in development, even with the major overhalls, I'm sure there is fun stuff to do in this game by now.
Its just that its 8 years old (4 years live), its run by a POS company and its run by a POS company.
Why would I play it instead of any of the other 40+ mmos out?
Mustafar is an expansion planet, so you can't access that content unless you have the expansion.
I recently came back 07/07, i'm enjoying it atm, I've found a nice guild, love hanging out with them in our city, but most fun thing is the group hunts, nothing more satisfying than taking down an anchient krayt ,when all your team have died and your the last one left
Goodness, what utter drivel...
There are so very many nasty things we could say about star wars galaxies. We've said them time and time again. Nerfs, lies, starter-jedi, just to name a few but one thing somewhere in this thread caught my eye. Someone, maybe the OP, was talking about exploration and that just made me go 'OMFG' one more time.
Exploration? Exploration?! Exploring swg nowadays would be like exploring my high school. I know every nook and cranny by heart and any sort of memories it stirred up would most certainly be bad ones. This more than anything is what really frustrates me about the events of 2005. The devs so clearly wanted to forsake their player base for this imaginary population of poptential customers who simply hadn't been exposed to the swg experience, so they marketed it as a knew product.
If it was an empty world, something similar to the progression server in EQ, I might consider starting over and building from the ground up. But it isn't, it's cluttered with empty player cities, broken content such as battlegrounds and uninteresting points of interest. From what I understand even the housing purge did little to clean up the landscape, many long abandoned structures still remain.
Yeah no thanks. Two years gone, break up still on.
Shooting through the dunes at you is not even connected to AI, it's called collision detection. You should bone up more on game mechanics if you're going to be a pro game reviewer someday.
Give me a freakin break, he didn't code that mess. The ones who did code it should be the ones being laughed at.
I read the OP and I gotta say... I agree. I came back to SWG after a 3+ year hiatus.
When I returned I also hated the spammers and unbalanced server population in certain central locations.
The game is not nub-friendly or starter-friendly.
Space isn't right
Shooting through the ground is broken
Spammers and AFK gamers are permitted everywhere
By the way, I think it's funny when people say "you have no evidence," etc. It reminds me of "Bahgdad Bob" just standing there in denial of what's obvious! LOL (like the VG fanbois!)
- Phos
Oh yeah, the credit and level service spammers are everywhere on Bloodfin as well, and it looks as if SOE allows it. People used to bitch about AFK grinders pre-cu, the afk stuff SOE now allows is 1 million times worse.
I think SOE allows the spammers because it allows them to pad their subscription numbers from 20,000 to 50,000 (if you count spammers).
Nobody in their right mind would play this crapfest if they had the IQ to actually understand how bad it sucked. Go outside and play some sports fanbois... Do something, you bring shame to the gaming world by playing SWG: NGE month after month.
Snookems is a legendary player from the glory days of SWG/Ahazi. Famous for hanging out in the starports and providing actual content for other players, in the form of amusing songs and dances and monologs.
The sad truth is, instead of fixing bugs and adding content to what they had, the SWG devs chose to radically modify the game to make it more WoWlike graphically and playwise, without understanding any of WoW's great strengths: it's relatively bug free , polished, and they've got superb customer service.
If SWG had half of that, they'd be better off but they're in such a rush now to put things back into the game that the took away with the launch of the NGE and thoroughly trashed their own reputation in the process, telling tens of thousands of their paying customers to FOAD.
Oh, and many of the most annoying and frustraging bugs are still there, and sending in bug reports does nothing to help. So why bother paying to beta test crap that won't be fixed anyways?
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
personally I went back to find my guild disbanded my mstr doc no more my buffs turned into heals I think soo I decided to go jedi to hit lvl 90 went to mustafar was o.k quest not that bad got bored switched to every profesion stuck with bounty hunter logged on to pvp relized I been playing for a week and was bored whipped right through mustafar and almost hit ace pilot pvp was getting lame the same players went to explor my old hang out spots got depressed and left the game wondering what the heck was I thinking playing NGE!!!
You want loot? Go kill some npcs, you wanna visit hades? come find ME, and dont forget to bring coins for the ferryman,
1. You are saying your Medic had no buffs to give???? Did you bother to set up your exp tree. Medic BUFFS are in high demand. No you probablly didn't
2. You are saying you blew through Mustafar by yourself in a week?????? OK thats believable...... NOT
Try again b/c you just made up everything in this post. Or maybe you didn't make up all of it but the problem is you guys log in and have no clue what is going on so you get mad and leave and make up a load of BS..
"Great minds discuss ideas, lesser minds discuss things, and shitheads get personal."
Sieno couple of questions1. You are saying your Medic had no buffs to give???? Did you bother to set up your exp tree. Medic BUFFS are in high demand. No you probablly didn't
2. You are saying you blew through Mustafar by yourself in a week?????? OK thats believable...... NOT
Try again b/c you just made up everything in this post. Or maybe you didn't make up all of it but the problem is you guys log in and have no clue what is going on so you get mad and leave and make up a load of BS..
Is Getoverit the biggest fanboi of them all??? This IS the Veteran Refuge forum, is it not? Go back to the Current forum and leave us old cranky vets here to eat our own sour pickles.
Whomever has the "breakup still on" in their post above....that's rich! I love it!!!
**Returned SWG player**
IGN: Gindacca, RACE: Wookiee
OLD GUILD: [cCc] (aka: BOC)
NEW GUILD: -SAS-
PROF: Light Jedi (elder)
(pre-NGE PROF: TKM/Master Swordsman)
SERVER: Chimaera (Euro)
1. You are saying your Medic had no buffs to give???? Did you bother to set up your exp tree. Medic BUFFS are in high demand. No you probablly didn't
2. You are saying you blew through Mustafar by yourself in a week?????? OK thats believable...... NOT
Try again b/c you just made up everything in this post. Or maybe you didn't make up all of it but the problem is you guys log in and have no clue what is going on so you get mad and leave and make up a load of BS..
What's the matter? Can't seem to find the right forum? You don't want us on "Current" then why do you come to the "refuge" and spread your fanboism?
This is hilarious. SWG has become so bad that fools who still toss money at it have actually started bashing people for their firsthand observations and opinions on how terrible the game is now. If somebody hasn't played they say "you don't even play so your opinion doesn't matter" and if you play it and say it sucks they say "prove it" or nitpick some mundane comment. And they tell vets to "get a life". LOL
agreed,
TBH the SAD SAD fact is that NGE lovers come to 3 company forums to get human interaction, since we all know there is no one in SWG to talk to lol
In the old days, we vets were in game playing, not harassing people on forums. Truth sucks and so does NGE lol
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Shooting through the dunes at you is not even connected to AI, it's called collision detection. You should bone up more on game mechanics if you're going to be a pro game reviewer someday.
Actually, it has everything to do with AI. How? Because if the NPC's can't see their target, then they shouldn't be shooting in the first place. Collision detection has nothing to do with anything except animation, which has nothing to do with AI, unless it's dealing with Physics, in which case the only thing relating the two is that an Object or NPC's Physics kick in when their ability to think (their AI) has been replaced or found devoid, meaning they have no choice but to become vicitms of their own propreitary values.
HOWEVER! The Euphoria Engine developed by LucasArts is trying to make "Physics" more of a real time AI thing.
At any rate, you should bone up more on game mechanics if you're going to be someone who corrects people about their perceived lack of knowledge.
agreed,
TBH the SAD SAD fact is that NGE lovers come to 3 company forums to get human interaction, since we all know there is no one in SWG to talk to lol
In the old days, we vets were in game playing, not harassing people on forums. Truth sucks and so does NGE lol
Wow -- someone speaking the truth.I like your quote and your honesty. Hmm... I wish people would have been more honest like this before???? Hmm.... imagine that concept.
I heard actually at one time there was such a place............ but I hear its gone -- although they are looking for a SWG rep or somthing -- or so I hear....lol
....ironic.
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lol @ rl_ _ _ shhh... kid gloves must stay on please,the truth may hurt.