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OMG Sweet Rumor From E3 Concerning AC
bezado
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I was informed late last night through some sources that someone at E3 told another developer that Turbine is in the works to redo AC. Don't know how true it is and the info talked about surprised me.
I heard that they are redoing AC into a modern graphical setting taking on the LOTR engine to redo AC and reform some things. Also the idea that the game will have almost a 100% clone of the original AC with new features added is what striked me as positive information if its true. I also heard that current content in AC and players currently subscribed to AC will have the ability to use those items they got off of AC to open or unlock in the new AC, such possibilities of having a way to use things from another game into a retake of the original game would be neat.
I don't know about you guys but if any of this was true then it would be sweet. I only heard it off of Ventrilo while playing with some players in AC last night, so anything a AC player says could be hype or speculation but hey, it sounded really neat what he was talking about. Granted if Turbine did redo AC into it's LOTR engine and kept it 100% clone I think the game would be as successful as WOW was it's first 1yr 6months or better.
What do you all think and did you hear anything about this? I am so hyped after I listened to this last night, I don't know what to think lol.
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I seriously doubt it. AC is a mess. Cloning it is a bad idea. There are things that needed to be kept and dropped. It's far from perfect.
I had alot of fun when it was popular way back when, if they added some better/smoother graphics in, id play.
Clearly a reliable rumor.
That's what we thought AC 2 was going to be... Sadly the community's idea of what a sequal to an MMO should be like, and what it was are two different things. The idea of a sequal is it's supposed to take on the original game michanics (think KOTOR II, HALO 2, any game sequal out there that's a true sequal) and add additional details that improve the overal effect on the characters choices. Basicly it's saying that we've got the fundamental game down already, but now we're going to progress the story line, do some art adjustments with improved graphics, and add additional content that was not possible in the old version.
What we've been getting with sequals, such as AC2 and even EQ2, is a game that hardly resembles it's predasesor, besides a name and some similar storylines. AC2 didn't reflect, IMO, anything that AC ever was.
Personaly, if they gave AC a much needed new graphics engine, with no serious changes in the functioning of skills that alter the main gameplay (so that away it feels like i'm playing AC, not something that ripped its storylines off and could have been called by another tittle) I'd play it in a heartbeat. AC was a great game for it's time, and today still has it's place. I can't think of one other MMO out there that you can dodge missle spells. It has such a huge dependency on strategy as much as it does skills. Loved playing an archer (with some magic of course, back then EVERYONE had some sort of magic, otherwise you'd be screwed unless you had friends or items to buff you or someone to help you travel with portals) and being able to sit up on a walkway in a dungeon and shoot down at monsters, trying to dodge spells and the like.
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All the original players would play with a graphics update. Sadly almost no one else would.
I would. I've never touched AC, but the AC2 trial was my first MMO experience. Provided they gave some attention to the issues you vets say are there, and they moved it all over to their new engine, count me in. Oh and get the damn Station Pass style system going...
i would play it
I would be so down for that too
If it looked like AC2 and played / was in AC's origial Dereth, I would play....but I still want my Lugian back damn it!!!!
To bad its just a dreamy rumor
I have been wishing this for years... dont thihnk its gonna happen. If it did I would sure play it. BUt I think they would have to adress the fact of the lack of skills in melee and archery. The mage has several different spells, war mage and life mage. Were as the melee and archery it just a one click deal no special moves. Hit or miss. Anyhow I had a petition to do this once up at petitions.com althoug I never advertised or posted anywhere about the petition it found a few people.
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Played AC 1 for the longest time. when i heard AC2 was coming out, omfg i laughed so hard. and it bombed just like i knew it would. anyone in their right mind wouldnt turn down a "revised" AC1. i think i'd drop everything for that. It was so pimp. and like somone said in a previous post, you could actually dodge spells. a quality i miss greatly.
I dont know what people mean when they say : you can dodge spell/missile atttacks in AC1...
Because this is not a feature that puts AC1 apart form AC2, you could dodge/strafe missile/spell attacks in AC2 in the same manner as AC1.
What needs to happen is Turbine needs to take the AC1 gameplay, combine it with the LOTRO graphical engine and re-market it as a new game. While I like LOTR's story Turbine is the best at creating a great story arc along with lore to back it up.
We need a true followup to AC1. Maaaaaaybe an MMO based on what happened inbetween the two. The players know they are fighting a lost cause so how long can they string it out?
I don't know, how accurate this is but my archer is alot of fun and you have to time missle attacks and hit either high medium or low depending on the fight and area of vulnerability. We have rends we can add to bows to do greater dmg within a certain vulnerability that creature might have.
At least for me archer is as fun as mage, it really isn't simple click and launch arrows, you still dodge attacks and stuff and can dodge incoming missles or spells and at the same time while launching your own attacks.
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I agree if they just updated the graphics and added things from AC2 like the musical instruments and swimming I'd go and play another 5yrs.
Yeah RIght!
I refuse to get my hopes up on this rumor because it will only lead to my heart being broken.
AC1 w/ Graphical upgrade has been on EVERY AC1 players wishlist since they made pants with pockets.
AC1 was a game way ahead of it's time. With a graphical upgrade this game would be a sure fire hit.
But lets be real guys..... It's only wishful thinking.
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Heck yeah I would play it. I still want my AC2 back though.
I dont think a new AC is ever comming. I still play AC & its still a great game. I do believe it is time to cut some losses. I say combine a few servers & drop the monthly sub price lower, not free. Then shoot out a little marketing through MMORPG & give existing players (your best source of advertising) free 60 day startup accounts to hand out to everyone they know.
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Doubt it.
The Turbine that created AC is gone. The idiots, I mean devs, that infest the post 2002 game are not the same people. These clowns NEVER understood what AC1 was and what made it great.
In fact, almost nobody in the entire gaming community understands. Not sure why... but to quandry this I have puzzled for years.
1) Absolutely nobody that missed 1999-2000 Asheron's Call has any understanding of why Asheron's Call is not an EQ-Clone. People can not see outside of the EQ box. They are completely blind to any other format for a game, and WoW only made that a permanent condition. An entire generation of computer dorks will have to die off before anything but an EQ-WoW clone will ever be made.
2) Turdbine doesn't understand why macros killed the game.
3) Asheron's Call Two is what people think of when they think of an AC game... Including the idiot devs that today stink and fester in the chairs once occupied by the real programmers that created AC1.
4) AC2 was the most monumentally bad MMORPG to be released by a major company EVER. and everything that has come from this company since is nearly as bad. Once they crack open the code, these morons will only mess around until AC is reborn as a pathetic excuse for a MMO. (Think D&D and AC2 et al) Nothing good could possibly come from any of these idiots going anywhere near the code.
I could go on and on as to why this isn't going to happen and even if it did, it would be a disaster.
Ask around... the devs want a WoW clone and the people want Persistant-world Online nintendo Shooters (POS's). Asheron's Call had almost no place in the gaming world when it was a two horse town... There is no denying that in the minds of the 1999 AC players it is the gold standard. But we are a tiny handful of players that could all get together in my jacuzzi and talk about the good ol' days
Nobody played it when there was no competition in the market and no EverQuest/World of Warcraft brainwashing to indocrinate the kidiots to MMOs ... nobody played it then - nobody is going to play it now.
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Why would anyone want this..
Lets remake everquest while we are admitting we clearly dont have any new ideas so lets polish the old.
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lol, don't make me laugh...new idea's? ha. Millions of people play wow, and that's nothing but a dumbed down, polished EQ clone.
People want a graphically revamped AC1 because even in it's current 8 year old form - and way beyond it's prime (read: new, stupid dev team, stupid patches, moronic decisions, third party programs) - it's still a much more in depth, versatile, challenging and fun experience than any of these recent noob friendly dumbed down zero risk piles of crap like WOW and LOTR.
AC1 was great, I thought it allowed for much more freedom and didn't have the go kill 20 mob a's before going to kill 30 mob b's quest that completely kill a mmo for me. They class and skill system were awesome compared to the rest of the clones we have today.
With the number of people looking for a non clone mmo with good pvp today, I think a polished AC1 would do well today. Yes to a degree all mmo's from here on out will be a clone in some way or another, but AC1 was out on it's own with alot that it did and compared to WOW, Vanguard, LOTRO...etc was completely different game play.
Don't know why, but in my mind there was UO, lineage and The Realm as 1st gen and then EQ, AC1, DAOC, AO and SB, as 2nd gen and all the 2nd gen had something completely different, if you didn't like one there was a good chance you would like another one of em. Most everything since then i personally classify as 3rd gen or clones. Since the 2nd gen the orginality has gone down hill, and i think it is because the people that played those 1st and 2nd gen games are now making the 3rd gen+ Games and while they are good with graphics, they suck at the rest of the process.
I'm a 1999 AC player. Played for almost 4 years and I have to take off my shoes to count how many times I've returned (or attempted to do so). There was something unique about AC back then, and there still is. Unique perhaps being the key term here, as there were nearly an unlimited number of options for a character in AC - template, armor and weapons, etc. In short, I'd be all for a revamp of graphic engine and leave the game alone for the most part. Hell, I'd even return if all servers were condensed to one carebear and DT (I know this debate has taken place and the responsed to housing and such and I'm not attempting to start that again here).
For me, even if AC were updated graphically ONLY, I would still return but I think there are a few things like in any game that should be modified. It cracks me up when I hear people talk about "grinding" in other games like WoW (which I have a lot of experience with as well). You don't KNOW what grinding is until you've spend a week of 16 hour days in a tusker, olthoi or even eater dungeon and only gained a level - if that! This is the reason I don't play AC today. There's no way I can really compete or even participate in high end content. My last return I got a character to around level 145. Not even close and I put more time and effort in to that character that I did on any level 70 in WoW. AC is dead, as far as being accepting to new players, because of the grotesque amount of experience needed to reach the level cap. Have fun trying to PvP. You better be a shut-in at home for at least a year before you even think about it.
Lastly, the greatest thing about AC IMO was the patron vassal experience passup system. Nowadays, a new player is just another chunk of xp for that patron who wants to hit that level cap or get a little closer to it, with little or no hope of getting any producing vassals him/herself. This game really requires the server numbers to be up a little more than they are to take advantage.
I know a lot of folks complain about the newer mmo's like WoW, but there is something to be learned from them. If nothing else: QUEST XP!! If AC gave double xp for outdoor monsters and nice chunks of XP for doing quests and added a few more I believe it would inch much closer to being the perfect MMO.
Anyway, sorry for the long-winded response. You can probably tell that AC is, was and always will be close to my heart. I hope like so many out there that something more will become of it!! I'll sign that petition!!
We, as gamers, think this way: You know, that would be the coolest &#%$in' thing in a game!
Developers, unfortunately, think this way: You know, that would be the easiest &#%$in' way to make some money!
A revamped AC, which would be my nectar and ambrosia, would not make money. The AC community is not that big as you can tell.
What we NEED is some independent talent with passion and a love for games with freedom like AC to publish another cult classic that we can all fall in love with. Some people that just want to break out of the fantasy mold of orcs, elves, and the like and just make something radical and weird like Asheron's Call.
Honestly, if I had the know how for programing, graphics, or whatever, I would be making something like that right now.
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