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AoC = a teenage power fantasy, nothin more nothin less

My point: The game will have an older playerbase (on average), but don't expect the community to be a utopia of reasonable and mature people. Reasons:

  1. This "M" rated content  effectively targets primal, masculine desires.
  2. Those desires  pretty much play off of the typical lust, anger and angst of youth.
  3. If that player, (old or young) is feeding those primal desires, their behavior and interaction with other players will parallel that regressed emotional state.

Couple that with some basic MMO truths:

  1. A person's maturity level isn't as simple as their age.
  2. Anonymity tends brings out a persons "real" self (no accountability), and its usually not pleasant, regardless of age.

Blood spray and boobs are exactly that. Blood spray and boobs. They aren't a barrier to keeping out the mythical "immature kiddies" that ruin communities. (I'm 26).

I'm NOT hating on this game, it looks interesting and I plan to try it. But there are a lot of people who just need to get real about AoC.

If you go into this game expecting a refreshing level of maturity, you'll be sorely dissapointed. When you are, please don't fill the forums with self righteous flames and thoughtless trolling. I already played WoW.

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  • theniffrigtheniffrig Member UncommonPosts: 351

    I hope the game is full of lots of 'unpleasant' people, who would sooner spit on you than talk to you. I hope arrogance is rampet! This will really add to the world that the game is set in!

    I do however just want to see less of the WOW talk like 'i pwned that noob hard' etc... Replace the words 'pwned' & 'noob'  with some harsh swearing and it will be ok with me :)

    I'm really looking forward to this games release!

  • ArconaArcona Member UncommonPosts: 1,182

    I have only met very few unpleasant people in a game with a monthly fee. Even games without monthly fee,  seems to have matured these days. The gaming community as a whole seems to get older and more mature. I think you are a cynical.

  • valdexvaldex Member UncommonPosts: 28

     

     

    Originally posted by theniffrig


    I hope the game is full of lots of 'unpleasant' people, who would sooner spit on you than talk to you. I hope arrogance is rampet! This will really add to the world that the game is set in!
    I do however just want to see less of the WOW talk like 'i pwned that noob hard' etc... Replace the words 'pwned' & 'noob'  with some harsh swearing and it will be ok with me :)
    I'm really looking forward to this games release!



    that harsh swearing will more then likly have your account suspended on serveral occasions, look at WoWs crap they do. I got a 3 day for saying stfu, then a another 3 day for saying wtf. to me thats just retarded, I really hope the games support system with "telling" on others is ALOT better the blizzard cause if not this will just be another ban fest for GMs



    another reason I quit wow ^^^

     

    Arcona I completly DISAGREE with everything you just put into your post about the mmo community. You think the MMO community has gotten mature? ROFLMAO this website alone is riddled with immaturity at its best, and there is no monthly fee here,practically I havent found 1 game with ALL mature players on it and I know I never will.

  • mmonkeymmonkey Member Posts: 171

    I'm not above admitting that I may be cynical, but my recent experiences have definitely been different from yours. What game(s) are you playing??

    *edit* replying to Arcona.

  • santafr0gsantafr0g Member Posts: 23

    Having angsty teenagers is not always a bad thing - they're good fuel for world PVP drama.

  • valdexvaldex Member UncommonPosts: 28

    Originally posted by santafr0g


    Having angsty teenagers is not always a bad thing - they're good fuel for world PVP drama.
    o0o and dont forget how annoying it is too



    "can i have some money?" - beggers

    "STFU noob I know how to play!" - arrogant assholes

    "(random abbreviations that doesnt make sense IE: GGSTFUROFLMAOBBQROFLCOPTER ECT ECT)" - people who will play these games 24/7 these are known as those who have no lives



    sorry im not looking forward to paying for a game that has just a few of these standard types of people in them, I say if you make a game for people above 18+ ALLOW ONLY 18+ simple as that if not then people like me who refuse to deal with the above stated will not be wasting money on a game ill just get suspended on for telling these immature KIDS to shut the hell up and grow up

     

  • evilastroevilastro Member Posts: 4,270

    There are plenty of mature kids and immature adults, as well as vice versa. Believe it or not, but some immature people will have the same gaming interests as you. In an online environment that means you will have to deal with them. Fear not, most online games have wonderful 'block' or 'ignore' functions that will solve all the woes of dealing with people you dont like.

    Seriously, find a decent guild you like to group with and you wont have to deal with the annoying pickup trolls. Adult content doesnt mean adult players, but it does mean more fun for some of us that like blood and gore.

  • jaharjahar Member Posts: 234

    ah, i think the community will kick it up a notch, but theres always going to be  idiots.. i dont think anyone expects otherwise

  • Angelus20Angelus20 Member Posts: 7
    Originally posted by valdex


     
    Originally posted by santafr0g


    Having angsty teenagers is not always a bad thing - they're good fuel for world PVP drama.
    o0o and dont forget how annoying it is too



    "can i have some money?" - beggers

    "STFU noob I know how to play!" - arrogant assholes

    "(random abbreviations that doesnt make sense IE: GGSTFUROFLMAOBBQROFLCOPTER ECT ECT)" - people who will play these games 24/7 these are known as those who have no lives



    sorry im not looking forward to paying for a game that has just a few of these standard types of people in them, I say if you make a game for people above 18+ ALLOW ONLY 18+ simple as that if not then people like me who refuse to deal with the above stated will not be wasting money on a game ill just get suspended on for telling these immature KIDS to shut the hell up and grow up.
            Valdex why are you a member of an MMO site and play MMO's if you are not willing to deal with these sorts of things. Every MMO has people who will ask for money, they all have arrogant people in them, and they always will until the end of MMO's. By your arrogant post saying you wont pay for a game with certain types of people I can only assume you fit into one of these categories. You dont need to beg to be immature. Telling these "KIDS to shut the hell up and grow up" as you put it seems very immature in itself. I suggest you use the /ignore when you see these people that almost every single MMO has implemented, and soon enough you will not have to put up with these "standard types of people". There are also several 18 and over guilds which will limit your exposure to anyone under the age of 18. 
      Honestly, an individual is responsible for his/her own game play environment. Newer games with are adding more and more features to allow this and allowing people freedom to play in a setting much more specialized to their own preferences. Obviously the game you are playing will limit the range of people you find but that is the customers choice in the first place isnt it?   
     
     

     

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  • mmonkeymmonkey Member Posts: 171

    Originally posted by jahar


    ah, i think the community will kick it up a notch, but theres always going to be  idiots.. i dont think anyone expects otherwise
    I dunno. Over the past several months here and at the AoC forums, I regularly come across posters gleefully talking about the "M" rating in regards to keeping the "immature kiddies" out.

     

  • GerretGerret Member Posts: 46

    Originally posted by valdex


     
     
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    that harsh swearing will more then likly have your account suspended on serveral occasions, look at WoWs crap they do. I got a 3 day for saying stfu, then a another 3 day for saying wtf. to me thats just retarded, I really hope the games support system with "telling" on others is ALOT better the blizzard cause if not this will just be another ban fest for GMs



    another reason I quit wow ^^^

     

     

    You got  an three day ban for abbreviations?

    Isnt that a little extreme. 

    Thats total BS

    oops  mums the word

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  • valdexvaldex Member UncommonPosts: 28
    Originally posted by Angelus20

    Originally posted by valdex


     
    Originally posted by santafr0g


    Having angsty teenagers is not always a bad thing - they're good fuel for world PVP drama.
    o0o and dont forget how annoying it is too



    "can i have some money?" - beggers

    "STFU noob I know how to play!" - arrogant assholes

    "(random abbreviations that doesnt make sense IE: GGSTFUROFLMAOBBQROFLCOPTER ECT ECT)" - people who will play these games 24/7 these are known as those who have no lives



    sorry im not looking forward to paying for a game that has just a few of these standard types of people in them, I say if you make a game for people above 18+ ALLOW ONLY 18+ simple as that if not then people like me who refuse to deal with the above stated will not be wasting money on a game ill just get suspended on for telling these immature KIDS to shut the hell up and grow up.
            Valdex why are you a member of an MMO site and play MMO's if you are not willing to deal with these sorts of things. Cause its a free membership and I use this website DAILY, and people have to remeber these are GAMES.  Every MMO has people who will ask for money, they all have arrogant people in them, and they always will until the end of MMO's. Yes its common and by beggers causing commotion it brings more goldsellers in by DEMAND which RUINS games, Obviously you didnt see the point of me complaining about beggers. By your arrogant post saying you wont pay for a game with certain types of people I can only assume you fit into one of these categories.I have been playing MMOs since the MUD days and im MUDS you never dealt with IMMATURITY EVER cause kids never wanted to take the time to learn them. Unfortunatly muds arent as popular as they used to so they are extremly underpopulated. And how would you know I fit in with these people you never even seen me or heard of me but through one post, if thats how you base someone you put your self into it by sterotyping. You dont need to beg to be immature.Never said begging was immature but why pay for a game to have someone else do the work for you? you must do that in games sorry that I do my own work. Telling these "KIDS to shut the hell up and grow up" as you put it seems very immature in itself. Maybe you dont mind leet speak cause maybe you use it daily? suggest you use the /ignoreCutting you off there thanks to WoW i had my ignore filled up on multiple characters, and yes games do have a limit on how many you can ignore thank you for trying tho. when you see these people that almost every single MMO has implemented, and soon enough you will not have to put up with these "standard types of people". There are also several 18 and over guilds which will limit your exposure to anyone under the age of 18. 
      Honestly, an individual is responsible for his/her own game play environment.not true. In games today you only get as far as your Enviroment allows you but you also have to take into consideration what the comuntiy allows you to do as well, everything is limited and apareantly immaturity will only get you further in games. Old head guilds with mature players is hard to find when you find a guild of ADULTS with kids and people who own things instead of just a room and a PC then thats when maturity will be brought into games untill then there is no hope for the future of mature gaming. Newer games with are adding more and more features to allow this and allowing people freedom to play in a setting much more specialized to their own preferences. Obviously the game you are playing will limit the range of people you find but that is the customers choice in the first place isnt it?   
     
     

     sorry but you failed in trying to prove your point about me.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    I dont get it?

    Its a "R" rated MMO          So?????

    That doesnt mean anything nowdays.

    Its no use to try to figure out what age and level of  "maturity" the playerbase will be.

    A MMO player is a MMO player. And you also know.......people change all the time. idiotes in one game can be really good guild leaders in another, and the other way around.

  • WagonerWagoner Member UncommonPosts: 92

    Boobies and gore! OMGL33tPWNZOR

  • alex-corealex-core Member Posts: 114

    ROFL   its just boobs & gore. nothing special at all..

    make it Full Nude and splatter, than we can descuss making it 18+

    ohh i forgot, maby your rules is 20+ so maby you will need a sensured version 

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  • EichenkatzeEichenkatze Member Posts: 340

    I dont expect everyone in Age of Conan to be wholefully mature.. thats impossible. In every game, regardless of title and rating there will be players of all ages..

    I do however, expect to find groups of mature players who take things seriously.. all games.. just as they all have every age group.. will have this group of people. These are the people im going to play the game along side.. people who don't giggle like school-girls when they see bare breasts and hear the word nudity.

    I know theres going to be breasts and gore.. but thats Conan for you.. I could care less whether the developers did it to appeal to a wider audence or did it for the reason they say they did.. for Conan.. i'm going to play the game.. and so what if i'm doing it for 'Primal' emotions.. i want to be a barbarian.. hell yes! I want to run around and hack things down and feel badass doing it. Hell yeah! I want to fight my bud in a bar fists in fists.. you're damn straight..

    But the boobs and gore doesn't make the reason why i want to play the game.. Ive got breasts to play with here at home.. and the gore? I rode shotgun in an ambulance for a summer.. its nothing to get excited about anymore...

    Frankly i could care less who the game pulls in. All i care about is if i'm going to enjoy the game.. not whether or not a 15 year old is going to squeal over breasts or not.

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  • TibbzTibbz Member UncommonPosts: 613

    The only reason I, personally, would think AoC would have an .... older.... crowd is that fact that is is Conan based.  The movie, cheesy cartoon and of course the books were really big in the generation of people who are now in thier late 20s, early 30s.  I do, however, agree that "M" rating will draw in more goobers then not but to counter this aspect I am sure that the idea of the game NOT being a button clicking MMO will trun them away elsewhere. 

     

    And of course the subnote is age does NOT equal maturity, no matter what we say and debate about the people who state"I am a Guardian who is a DPSer, not at tank,"  "ZOMFG PWNAGE," and "1337;" will exist and most will stay.  These are my words of inspiration. 

    Ignore the masses just join a good guild if you dont want to deal with goobers 

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  • area84area84 Member Posts: 335

    I am tired of seeing posts like these where the M rating will bring in kids etc, guess what theres a million M rated games out there that kids dont play. Kids play wow because of its fantasy setting, its easy to play, and the graphic atmosphere. AoC isnt like that, and its more mature oriented, from the way you play to how the world looks also to play AoC you are going to need a much better computer than lets say wow. Kids and immature people are in every game, but also there are mature players in every game, just like irl you got kids and adults, and you have the option to associate with whomever you want. Kids and immature players are part of our community and they will be in every MMO out there, its best to deal with this fact than point fingers at games and how they will have immature players.

    A man dies daily, only to be reborn in the morning, bigger, better and wiser.

    -Playing AoC
    -Playing WoW
    -Retired- SWG
    -Retired- EVE
    -Retired- LotR

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    - 24" Widescreen 1080P HD display).

  • CactusmanXCactusmanX Member Posts: 2,218

    The mature rating would bother me a bit, since mature rated games are likely to attract immature people, but considering that AoC isn't being made for a mass market, like GTA was, you will probably be playing with people that, like MMOGs, and/or like Conan, both of which tend to consist of older people, of course age does not equal maturity, but it helps.

    Yeah there will probably be some immature people playing, but if they are just playing for the nudity and gore, they probably won't stick around too long. 

    Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit

  • aleosaleos Member UncommonPosts: 1,943

    At first i was like "what the hell" when i read the title but you actualy made sense. I can see this happening but i would think its up to the player to let bs like that not bother them and woop some ass in game.

  • area84area84 Member Posts: 335

    As far as boobies go in this game, why would a kid join the game just for that? I dont get it, kids are getting laid in their 15s now, and porn is free by the tons on the internet, do you think they will level up a toon just to see a demon with boobs showing? Really get a grip, the boobs add into the mature atmosphere which Funcom is trying to establish amongst other things and also its based on Conan and Hyboria also it takes place in 10000 b.c.

    A man dies daily, only to be reborn in the morning, bigger, better and wiser.

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    -Playing WoW
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    -Retired- EVE
    -Retired- LotR

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    - 24" Widescreen 1080P HD display).

  • TibbzTibbz Member UncommonPosts: 613

    well we can discuss this issue all we want back and forth, but either way we will not know anything until October 30th (HOPFULLY). 

     

    just a lil over 3 months now hehe

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  • vizaviza Member Posts: 204

     

    Originally posted by evilastro


    There are plenty of mature kids and immature adults, as well as vice versa. Believe it or not, but some immature people will have the same gaming interests as you. In an online environment that means you will have to deal with them. Fear not, most online games have wonderful 'block' or 'ignore' functions that will solve all the woes of dealing with people you dont like.
    Seriously, find a decent guild you like to group with and you wont have to deal with the annoying pickup trolls. Adult content doesnt mean adult players, but it does mean more fun for some of us that like blood and gore.

    Q to the F to the E

     

    There's bad apples in every bunch. The notion that this game will be any different is retarded, yet people keep posting new threads about how the M rating won't prevent idiots from playing the game so they are pissed. Get over it already.

    I really wish the mods would start locking and deleting threads like this one. These are the most useless and repetitive posts on this site. All they do is bash players outside of their demographic sewing circle. Trolls...

    -Viz

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