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US = less then 10% of gaming communtiy

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  • RaunuRaunu Member UncommonPosts: 480
    Originally posted by Timzilla


    Only the US matters.

    Honestly don't even joke about things like that. Jokers like you make the rest of us look bad.

    - - "What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?" - -

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Not only are the U.S. and EU markets the largest in the world, they are the most profitable.

    Games sold in the west are sold for a much higher price than those sold in China.

     

    Taking the example of WoW, we can see that the 3 major player bases are North America, the EU and China.

    China has 3 times as many WoW players as either NA or the EU, but the majority of the revenue is returned from the western sales.

     

    Games are written for the people who pay, not the largest population base. EU and US aimed titles will dominate the market.

    We want western style games and we can pay for them. Expect plenty more western orientated titles than for any other cultures.

     

    Asian grindfests aren't grind fests because they are asian and asians like to grind, they are grindfests because many of the games they are playing are old skool games that predate the quest system.

    Similarly, "Chinese gold sellers" are invariably Mexican if you are playing in NA and Eastern European if you are playing in the EU.

  • ladyattisladyattis Member Posts: 1,273

    Just because everyone else in the world thinks grinding games are fun doesn't mean they are for everyone. Plus, if we take this bandwagoning concept to its end: socialism is okay, anti-homosexual laws are great, and women should be tripped of all rights. So, please, don't pull bandwagon fallacies, just acknowledge that the Asian MMOs do have some nice art, but they really have a long way to go for programming (and design) innovation.

    -- Brede

  • LilianeLiliane Member Posts: 591

     

    Originally posted by tdub


    I want to get the facts stright for a few / a lot of you posters out there who say games suck because their a Asian grind fest even though you have never played them.  And to all you people who say the Asian style games are not popular, suck and just lack content.

    No-one says that asian games aren't popular in asian. They are saying they aren't popular in western countries. Some of western players even like asian games, but most of us don't. Reason is they are too simple griding games and many of them doesn't have western languages.

     

    I have played them so don't judge other people because You don't understand what they are saying.

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  • TsollessTsolless Member Posts: 448

    The US isn't all that matters.

    If military prowess was what mattered, then China would be up there right with USA.

    If it was the medical systems then it would be Canada, arguably.

    If it was technology it would be a battle between Korea, Japan, etc. etc.

    If it was wealth, that would go to the European countries.

    Etc.

    Etc.

    Etc.

    Please don't say the USA is all that matters. That is the arrogant, ignorant attitude that makes other countries, like mine, dislike your country.

    PS.

    I'm Canadian.

  • darkedone02darkedone02 Member UncommonPosts: 581

    till I got the money, I might as well travel and get a home at somewhere in Japan just to be in the community of gamers then here in the US where bullshit and Politics attack you 24/7 accusing you of being lazy and other bullshit.

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  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Hell we made 10%?

    Nice.

    Yeah when a country like korea or japan has as many people as the east coast in their small island, no duh. Of course there will be more. The US tends to market more killy/single player than asia with their baskin robbins ass attitude on games.

    "Let's just release 600 crappy ones, and 3 good one..oh 2? Okay 601."

  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441

    ya they build games specifically so that it is a leveling race, which is popular in asia

    i, on the other hand, like community driven "worlds" not just combat based grind races

    so as i believe gpett stated, you like 'em go play 'em, but ill pass

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by b0rderline99


    ya they build games specifically so that it is a leveling race, which is popular in asia
    i, on the other hand, like community driven "worlds" not just combat based grind races
    so as i believe gpett stated, you like 'em go play 'em, but ill pass
    Saddly I'll play anything once, even if it's a steamer.

    This is also why I attend therapy every week, thanks a !$%^ing lot asia.

  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441

    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by b0rderline99


    ya they build games specifically so that it is a leveling race, which is popular in asia
    i, on the other hand, like community driven "worlds" not just combat based grind races
    so as i believe gpett stated, you like 'em go play 'em, but ill pass
    Saddly I'll play anything once, even if it's a steamer.

     

    This is also why I attend therapy every week, thanks a !$%^ing lot asia.

    first polluted food, and then a broken astropuyo

    ASIA WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO US!!!!!!!!???????

  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923

    (I Deleted this post because i knew some people would take offence to it and that was not intended in any way)

    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • LilianeLiliane Member Posts: 591

    Originally posted by charlizd


    I really love how a lot of you from the U.S take this so personally i mean so because you guys say it sucks then thats the way it is right?
    Of cause they take it personal because it was direct attack agaist US players and they opinion about games.

     

    You say that open eyes, while You self judge others because they have different opinion than Yours?

    What's wrong not to like or like some types of games?

     

     

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  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923

    Originally posted by Liliane


     
    Originally posted by charlizd


    I really love how a lot of you from the U.S take this so personally i mean so because you guys say it sucks then thats the way it is right?
    Of cause they take it personal because it was direct attack agaist US players and they opinion about games.

     

     

    You say that open eyes, while You self judge others because they have different opinion than Yours?

    What's wrong not to like or like some types of games?

     

     

    Well my only opinion was to open there eyes and i what you said was exactly my point it is ok for You to not like something but does that give you the right to say all from that country suck?

    Heck there are games i like from the Asian market and games i like from the US market but i dont go around saying "oh well the last game that country produced sucked so i guess this 1 will as well" if you dont like the Asian grindfest as it is called then dont play it we dont really need to keep hearing how it does not complete your needs there for it should not complete others.

    And i was not judging any 1 i was merely suggesting can we just get over this characterizing of MMO's and just play the games like it or love it just move on to what it is that you need and so be it

     

    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

     

    Originally posted by b0rderline99


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by b0rderline99


    ya they build games specifically so that it is a leveling race, which is popular in asia
    i, on the other hand, like community driven "worlds" not just combat based grind races
    so as i believe gpett stated, you like 'em go play 'em, but ill pass
    Saddly I'll play anything once, even if it's a steamer.

     

    This is also why I attend therapy every week, thanks a !$%^ing lot asia.

    first polluted food, and then a broken astropuyo

     

    ASIA WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO US!!!!!!!!???????

    Seriously ASIA WTF, MY TOOTH PASTE SUCKS NOW.

     

    No longer do I get any form of high using it, and it sucks. It used to be it was 80% anti-freeze and that would get me through the day, then you bastards dropped it off to 60%, thats just bull.

    Asia, thanks for killing my girls cat, seriously I was truely sick of hearing about her ^$^&ing cat.

    Also to you self rightous non-americans, you ever think the american players are uppity because of the constant "WE R HATE U AMERICA" threads,posts, lame ass quotes?

    Look you guys, we know our leader is a real ^&##ing idiot, but don't let that stigma get in the way of the fact that one day...

    Each and everyone of you will be speaking Americanese, yes instead of "Good day" you will hear "Hey you! What the &#%^ are you looking at" or instead of "We'd like some fish and chips" you'll say "Hey you! What the ^&*$ are you looking at".

    With that being said you'd best start understanding that american culture is vastly superior in our general hating you WAY more than you hate us, hell we have a channel devoted to hate. It's called CNN.

    You have been warned.

  • sitheussitheus Member Posts: 230

    Funny posts about disliking asian GRIND games considering the most popular game is USA is WoW!! How much more grind could an Asian game have over WoW. Lets see WoW has rep grind, honor grind, gear grind, craft grind, gold grind, mats grind, attunement grind, level grind, repetitive quest grind, etc, etc, etc. A grind is a grind is a grind no matter how much you deny it.

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

     

    Originally posted by sitheus


    Funny posts about disliking asian GRIND games considering the most popular game is USA is WoW!! How much more grind could an Asian game have over WoW. Lets see WoW has rep grind, honor grind, gear grind, craft grind, gold grind, mats grind, attunement grind, level grind, repetitive quest grind, etc, etc, etc. A grind is a grind is a grind no matter how much you deny it.

    Look if you aren't american then you don't have freedom of speech G.W has told us the rest of the world is full of freedom hating terrorists, are you a terrorist?

     

    According to the "Homeland Security for dummies" manual you used the word disliking and USA, and deny it all in the same paragraph.

    +100 terrorist points.

    You sir are a filthy commi terrorist.

  • sitheussitheus Member Posts: 230

    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by sitheus


    Funny posts about disliking asian GRIND games considering the most popular game is USA is WoW!! How much more grind could an Asian game have over WoW. Lets see WoW has rep grind, honor grind, gear grind, craft grind, gold grind, mats grind, attunement grind, level grind, repetitive quest grind, etc, etc, etc. A grind is a grind is a grind no matter how much you deny it.

    Look if you aren't american then you don't have freedom of speech G.W has told us the rest of the world is full of freedom hating terrorists, are you a terrorist?

     

    According to the "Homeland Security for dummies" manual you used the word disliking and USA, and deny it all in the same paragraph.

    +100 terrorist points.

    You sir are a filthy commi terrorist.

    Hmm. You gathered all that from an opinion about grinding and you wish you could delete my thread but you can't suppress it because we don't live in your dictatetorial world. You see what I did was a hit a nerve of a WoW fanboi and you really didn't like it did you? Funny you should mention homeland security considering NAZI Germany also created a homeland security to do what our homeland security is designed to do. I love the irony here. As far as my posts I will continue to to post whatever I like despite your desire to suppress what others have got to say.

    According to presidents from long ago who knew what freedom truly is, you are a flaming idiot who wouldn't know the difference between freedom and patriotism.

    If you want to know about freedom, then put down your "Homeland Security for retarted conformists" and pick up some bios on early presidents.

    You sir are a filthy idiot who needs to learn about freedom.

  • twaynetwayne Member Posts: 49

    these are some very strong opinions..  .. too bad they suck. you're all ball-sucking morons.

    just kidding.



    anyway, now that I have your attention.

    I like people. I hate people. I like games. I hate games. We all have opinions which like we see here, people gossip about games from personal knowledge or lack there of. I'm confused what anybody gets out of ripping a game on a forum  if you need the attention, be a little more intelligent about it. ask a girl out, or hit a police officer. that'll work.  this'll get you nowhere.

    I don't think people should associate a bad game with "asian". I bet you all think the word "jew" is funny too. fact is, we wouldn't have the technology to create games like what we have now without the 5'0" techies. besides, who created Final Fantasy, one of the most popular franchises around the world? oh that's right. I love how koreans treat their games.. like sports. check out the Starcraft tournies.

    Am I saying all asian games are good? no. would i take just anybody's word for how good it is? no.  is the answer to this question, yes? no.

    you people need to learn to "discuss" instead of argue.  DAMNIT!



    penis breath. 

  • LumsterLumster Member Posts: 230

    Yea WoW is a lot of grind, but at least it doesn't look like a freaking anime.

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

     

    Originally posted by sitheus


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by sitheus


    Funny posts about disliking asian GRIND games considering the most popular game is USA is WoW!! How much more grind could an Asian game have over WoW. Lets see WoW has rep grind, honor grind, gear grind, craft grind, gold grind, mats grind, attunement grind, level grind, repetitive quest grind, etc, etc, etc. A grind is a grind is a grind no matter how much you deny it.

    Look if you aren't american then you don't have freedom of speech G.W has told us the rest of the world is full of freedom hating terrorists, are you a terrorist?

     

    According to the "Homeland Security for dummies" manual you used the word disliking and USA, and deny it all in the same paragraph.

    +100 terrorist points.

    You sir are a filthy commi terrorist.

    Hmm. You gathered all that from an opinion about grinding and you wish you could delete my thread but you can't suppress it because we don't live in your dictatetorial world. You see what I did was a hit a nerve of a WoW fanboi and you really didn't like it did you? Funny you should mention homeland security considering NAZI Germany also created a homeland security to do what our homeland security is designed to do. I love the irony here. As far as my posts I will continue to to post whatever I like despite your desire to suppress what others have got to say.

     

    According to presidents from long ago who knew what freedom truly is, you are a flaming idiot who wouldn't know the difference between freedom and patriotism.

    If you want to know about freedom, then put down your "Homeland Security for retarted conformists" and pick up some bios on early presidents.

    You sir are a filthy idiot who needs to learn about freedom.

    Dear cannot understand satire,

     

                                                                 It has come to my attention that you cannot comprehend when a person is intentionally being moronic for laughs, it is sad that you wasted time posting such a flame (though I do give you props for filthy idiot).

    It appears that comedy is lost on you and you have taken this far to seriously, though I wish you'd of gotten a clue at how completely #%%^ing stupid the post was, this will be a mark of amusement for a very long time.

    I shall haunt your threads where-ever you go you terrorist, you will not hide WMD's in them for we shall find them with bombs.

     Also for the record I haven't played Wow since it's inception, where can you even justify calling me a fanboy? Are you that dumb? Where have I posted "OMGZ WOW IS TEH BOMBZORZ". .

               The only freedom of speech you know is what our wonderful loving goverment tells us it is.

    You are obviously an america hater and I will not stand for this, I'm calling the FBI.

     

    Edit: Removed any and all half assed personal attacks.

  • loopylizardloopylizard Member Posts: 40

    I am an American and i have played Asian games and American games and EU games. Personally I like them all. It doesn't matter to me where they come from as long as they are fun as crap to play.

  • sitheussitheus Member Posts: 230

    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by sitheus


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by sitheus


    Funny posts about disliking asian GRIND games considering the most popular game is USA is WoW!! How much more grind could an Asian game have over WoW. Lets see WoW has rep grind, honor grind, gear grind, craft grind, gold grind, mats grind, attunement grind, level grind, repetitive quest grind, etc, etc, etc. A grind is a grind is a grind no matter how much you deny it.

    Look if you aren't american then you don't have freedom of speech G.W has told us the rest of the world is full of freedom hating terrorists, are you a terrorist?

     

    According to the "Homeland Security for dummies" manual you used the word disliking and USA, and deny it all in the same paragraph.

    +100 terrorist points.

    You sir are a filthy commi terrorist.

    Hmm. You gathered all that from an opinion about grinding and you wish you could delete my thread but you can't suppress it because we don't live in your dictatetorial world. You see what I did was a hit a nerve of a WoW fanboi and you really didn't like it did you? Funny you should mention homeland security considering NAZI Germany also created a homeland security to do what our homeland security is designed to do. I love the irony here. As far as my posts I will continue to to post whatever I like despite your desire to suppress what others have got to say.

     

    According to presidents from long ago who knew what freedom truly is, you are a flaming idiot who wouldn't know the difference between freedom and patriotism.

    If you want to know about freedom, then put down your "Homeland Security for retarted conformists" and pick up some bios on early presidents.

    You sir are a filthy idiot who needs to learn about freedom.

    Dear cannot understand satire,

     

                                                                 It has come to my attention that you cannot comprehend when a person is intentionally being moronic for laughs, it is sad that you wasted time posting such a flame (though I do give you props for filthy idiot).

    It appears that comedy is lost on you and you have taken this far to seriously, though I wish you'd of gotten a clue at how completely #%%^ing stupid the post was, this will be a mark of amusement for a very long time.

    I shall haunt your threads where-ever you go you terrorist, you will not hide WMD's in them for we shall find them with bombs.

     

               


    OMFG. "Homeland Security for dummies". ROFL. Yea ok, you f ing got me good. I don't need to be posting this early in the morning as I can barely see straight much less think right.

    Nice job on satire 

    You sir are cool. 

    <<Going to make a pot of coffeee now>>

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Cheers mate!

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by xxvicexx


    Without looking for the numbers I can confidently tell you a larger percentage of people in the world don't use toilet paper then do....
    Now apply that to the OP's premise..mmmmmhhhhmmm
     
    Then what do they use?

    I-I'm scared.

  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495
    Originally posted by Cabe2323


     
    Originally posted by tdub


    I want to get the facts stright for a few / a lot of you posters out there who say games suck because their a Asian grind fest even though you have never played them.  And to all you people who say the Asian style games are not popular, suck and just lack content.
     
     
    As of right now from a private study based out South Korea threw Daewon Science College and a few other colleges.
     
    there are currently well over 80 million pc video gamers but could not put a real number on it since they stated it was to hard to find the numbers.  With no  real records of computers and games sold in most EU, Russian and Asian based counties and the mass amount of file sharing in Asian based counties the numbers were to hard to pin-point.


     
    Roughly 45 million+ are located in Russia/Japan/China/South Korea and neighboring counties
    Roughly 20 million+ in EU to Africa
    Roughly less then 8 million (Active gamers) in the US but growing higher. ( Roughly 1million-2 million a year) <-- no clue how they know but their Korean :)
    And the rest thrown into Canada and Mexico/South America.


    SO... to all you complainers and auto-haters out there keep hating Plz it makes you look bad.  But to everyone reading posts about new games mind one thing! When someone says just another Asian Grind fest, thats less then 10% of the Gaming community saying its bad
     


    !!!AND NOTE!!!

    Asian Style video games have hit a record high threw out the world and are changing the style of EU Games/Gamers.



    Cabal is the next big Asian style game in EU and have I believe 1million-2million register users.

     
    Africa is stepping up and getting some gamers and Mexico and Canada are going to be coming out of no where really soon as the next big gaming community.



    its said Mexico to South America/Cuba etc. will be the next big gamers in the coming years.


    ON MY PERSON OPINION! American is less then 10% and we will only get lower.. but the facts show the more and more we sink into debt along with crime are gaming numbers will grow.. YOu know the age old saying, kids play games to escape the problems of today and school.


    I highly doubt the validity of this research.  8 Million gamers in the US?  When:

     



    1.  US computer and video game software sales grew six percent in 2006 to $7.4 billion – almost tripling industry software sales since 1996.



    2.  Sixty-seven percent of American heads of households play computer and video games. 

     

    3.  The average game player is 33 years old and has been playing games for 12 years.

     

    4.   The average age of the most frequent game buyer is 38 years old. In 2007, 92 percent of computer game buyers and 80 percent of console game buyers were over the age of 18.




    8.  Thirty-eight percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing population (31%) than boys age 17 or younger (20%).

     

    9.  In 2007, 24 percent of Americans over the age of 50 played video games, an increase from nine percent in 1999.



    10.  Forty-nine percent of game players say they play games online one or more hours per week. In addition, 34 percent of heads of households play games on a wireless device, such as a cell phone or PDA, up from 20 percent in 2002.

     

     

     

    I highly doubt that 8 million number.  Maybe 8 million people have played or play MMO games, but the video game industry is huge in the US.  They showed that Blizzard makes 100 times more money in America on WoW then in all of China.  So really which market is better for their bottom line?



    5.  Eighty-five percent of all games sold in 2006 were rated "E" for Everyone, "T" for Teen, or "E10+" for Everyone 10+.  For more information on ratings, please see www.esrb.org.



    6.  Eighty-six percent of game players under the age of 18 report that they get their parents’ permission when renting or buying games, and 91 percent say their parents are present when they buy games.



    7.   Thirty-six percent of American parents say they play computer and video games. Further, 80 percent of gamer parents say they play video games with their kids. Sixty-six percent feel that playing games has brought their families closer together.

    Great reply, i do not know what type of research the OP has done but it didn't make much sence or atleast he did not do any true research at all. Thanks for the proper info 

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