"The Greek coast guard caught up with fleeing bandits this afternoon, who were trying to make a quick get away to Turkey with a leaking row boat. The notorious criminals, who were once recognized for coding one of Greece's top army simulation program, failed to return a bank loan of 20 million euros (plus intrest), after their massively multiplayer online game, Dork-falls, which many thought would change the genre, failed to sell more than 12 thousand copies (worldwide). Unfortunately for the con-men, the coast guard destroyer sailed right through the row boat, killing all occupants. Army officials blame faulty simulation program, created by ... Aventurine employees."
Yea right even if they got across the border they would still end up in prison.
Hey, don't ask me why they headed for Turkey, and not say try a run for Albania!
All I do is bring headlines from the future!
I would've ran to pakistan. No one would ever guess.
Yeah, but the Pakistanies are a way more hardcore crowd than Aventurine, they would PvP murder them asap.
"He was being specific about it. They said the guy was posting about DF being up for sale. So anything else started by that guy was a lie too"
haha so you think just because this Tasos guy , producer or whatever of the longest running vaporware in History says something is false that it autimatically means it false?? good lord wake up. You're extremely gullible.
Funny how he didn't come right out and name any names right??? He made some "vague" referances instead. Thats because its probably true and he wanted to sweep it under the rug as quckly and easily as possible without anymore people digging.
"The Greek coast guard caught up with fleeing bandits this afternoon, who were trying to make a quick get away to Turkey with a leaking row boat. "
I bet they were trying to bring the darkfall beta DVD to mmorpg.com editors and Aventurine figured it needed to be in development for another 7 years before that happened.
You think companys waste millions on stuff that doesnt exist man ? I dont mean to sound like an ass, but the conspiracy theories are old.
Yes the game has been in development for so long with no 3rd party review or beta, and the fact they dont go to E3 in US to show the game off hurts them, but given that it is there game isnt it ? SHouldnt they dictate when its released and when people can revview and beta test it ?
Actually yes companies drop millions a day on failed ventures. Any time you create a product you run the risk of failure.
The past 3 years are littered with several MMOs that have had money pumped into them and ultimately were yanked.
Your right that it is their game and they have the choice to show as much as they want. You are forgetting that we are the potential consumer and have the right to complain if a company is less then forthcoming with information vital to a product we are interested in.
You can not give me one valid argument why the information is lacking. They have their website and other free media sources to display their game... After 6 years (4 with a full dev team) you would think they could throw the community a bone.
Will the game be released... probably... will it have the features it boasts about or up to date graphics... probably not.
Darkfall is turning into another shadowbane.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Actually Shadowbane was well into a public beta around 4 years into development and was out on the market after 5 years.
darkfall is still in some kind of strange pre alpha or dreamy internal pre beta phase after 6 years.
I mean even the most die hard gullible fanboys have to admit that something is seriously wrong with this project somewhere. It has so many red flags waving.
"Darkfall is turning into another shadowbane." Actually Shadowbane was well into a public beta around 4 years into development and was out on the market after 5 years. darkfall is still in some kind of strange pre alpha or dreamy internal pre beta phase after 6 years. I mean even the most die hard gullible fanboys have to admit that something is seriously wrong with this project somewhere. It has so many red flags waving.
I agree... but I think the game is more the vaporware... they do have some videos out... That is why I compared it to shadowbane.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
I admit that the Darkfall Online project has been a hazy cloud of horrible communication and lost deadlines. The thing i don't understand is why so many people believe the graphics are out dated, I watched the mount video and i was astonished by the graphics, Grass moving fluidly, trees that were unique looking with dynamic movement. Shadows from the leave on the tree and mounted woman, moving with the leaves as they move from the wind. The reflection from the armor seemed great. Perhaps it is because i run a system that would make a dev drool uncontrolably but the videos are some of the best i've yet seen, perhaps Age of Conan's graphics are a touch better, but neither game is lacking to be sure.
Yes, i am one of the many hopefull dreamers wishing for Darkfall but I do see realism from these clouded eyes as well. Darkfall is something that we all want, it's fun to mock and poke at but we will all be on a band wagon straight for MMO history once it releases, and im sure some will mourn if it falls as many have before it.
And I want to either A, see that future headline come to life or B, Let that 27.5 million USD go to amazingly good use..........What do you say we all watch and see rather then making speculations of nothingness that no one could possibly hope to know
Stop making posts like these on the MMORPG forums here. All optimistic people should just come to Forumfall. Seriously, active MMORPG.com forum members are nerds that only slag off MMO's. I bet they get their asses kicked all the time.
I don't think Aventurine can delay beta anymore, they almost have to show if they can pull their game live or not (beta). If it gets delayed beyond AoC and WAR launches.. very bad news for their community numbers. Beta 2007 or baibai DF.
Btw, I find it funny that we have seen plenty of PvP in DF videos, but not a second of AoC PvP. I guess that means AoC PvP will suck horribly
I don't think Aventurine can delay beta anymore, they almost have to show if they can pull their game live or not (beta). If it gets delayed beyond AoC and WAR launches.. very bad news for their community numbers. Beta 2007 or baibai DF. Btw, I find it funny that we have seen plenty of PvP in DF videos, but not a second of AoC PvP. I guess that means AoC PvP will suck horribly
Even if AoC and WAR launches people are going to be interested in DF because its a quite well known game even if they think its vaporware. Then once it comes out they'll think "Hey wasnt that that vaporware game, I should go check it out".
You think companys waste millions on stuff that doesnt exist man ? I dont mean to sound like an ass, but the conspiracy theories are old.
Yes the game has been in development for so long with no 3rd party review or beta, and the fact they dont go to E3 in US to show the game off hurts them, but given that it is there game isnt it ? SHouldnt they dictate when its released and when people can revview and beta test it ?
Actually yes companies drop millions a day on failed ventures. Any time you create a product you run the risk of failure.
The past 3 years are littered with several MMOs that have had money pumped into them and ultimately were yanked.
Your right that it is their game and they have the choice to show as much as they want. You are forgetting that we are the potential consumer and have the right to complain if a company is less then forthcoming with information vital to a product we are interested in.
You can not give me one valid argument why the information is lacking. They have their website and other free media sources to display their game... After 6 years (4 with a full dev team) you would think they could throw the community a bone.
Will the game be released... probably... will it have the features it boasts about or up to date graphics... probably not.
Darkfall is turning into another shadowbane.
They took out a 27.5 million loan and now they have to pay that back WITH interest. Now taking out that amount of money while having no game seems almost ridiculous to believe. They have something but the question is, is it good?
They've said they want to keep the game mostly a secret and let players find it out themselves.
If the videos show what they have done then they have a lot of features they've promised. They had a graphical update not too long ago.
"Darkfall is turning into another shadowbane." Actually Shadowbane was well into a public beta around 4 years into development and was out on the market after 5 years. darkfall is still in some kind of strange pre alpha or dreamy internal pre beta phase after 6 years. I mean even the most die hard gullible fanboys have to admit that something is seriously wrong with this project somewhere. It has so many red flags waving.
4 years actually. Once again show me these "Red Flags". Its funny because most say they have Giant Red Flags but they've yet to list any.
Well anyone that has played forumfall(sitting in darkfall forums) knows that darkfall is coming out, no its not vaporware. does vaporware release dev journals monthly with videos? well anyway here is a article written by surly about darkfalls past and future. Surly's Column: State of the Game: Darkfall, Razorwax and Aventurine, Here's the Rub
heres the most important things: "With the latest news to be uncovered, it appears Aventurine has procured a 20 million Euro convertible bond ($27.5m USD) loan with Marfin Bank[27] at the behest of Proton Investment Bank of Greece[28]. I can't help but think that no more than $25m of that would be dedicated to initial server hosting and publishing. Without much enthusiasm or presumption, I would submit that the wait for Darkfall is over. $27.5m loans tend to be a bitch to pay off interest on, especially when sitting squarely on your laurels. The clamps are most certainly down, and Aventurine is financially committed to the launch of Darkfall whether they like it or not. Whether that's a good thing or not is also yet to be seen, because for the first time in its long development Darkfall Online is subject to the most dreaded of all development problems: time constraints. Given Aventurine's recent admission that they will not even be capable of entertaining their scheduled WarCry update by writing it ahead of time on or around the 15th of August[30], I think it's a safe assumption that mid-August will see Darkfall's public servers online, and functional. Recent business trips which left Tasos outside of the country[31] would even indicate that they wouldn't necessarily be located in Greece. As I stated in a previous article, public beta by October, or I'll club a baby seal."
When I saw the title of this thread, I got the laugh I needed for the day. Thank you.
"He was being specific about it. They said the guy was posting about DF being up for sale. So anything else started by that guy was a lie too" haha so you think just because this Tasos guy , producer or whatever of the longest running vaporware in History says something is false that it autimatically means it false?? good lord wake up. You're extremely gullible. Funny how he didn't come right out and name any names right??? He made some "vague" referances instead. Thats because its probably true and he wanted to sweep it under the rug as quckly and easily as possible without anymore people digging.
"The Greek coast guard caught up with fleeing bandits this afternoon, who were trying to make a quick get away to Turkey with a leaking row boat. " I bet they were trying to bring the darkfall beta DVD to mmorpg.com editors and Aventurine figured it needed to be in development for another 7 years before that happened.
So you believe the troll who has been spreading obviously false things. Such as that red bull buying DF? Your saying that you would believe that guy? The only gullible one is you.
Hes been there for three years saying the same thing over and over people KNEW who he was talking about. The guy made alot of false statements so you wanted them to list each and every one of them?
The whole POINT of that thread was NOT about the troll it was about them having STRONGER moderation because some people were abusing it. I wonder if you realized that.
They took out a 27.5 million loan and now they have to pay that back WITH interest. Now taking out that amount of money while having no game seems almost ridiculous to believe. They have something but the question is, is it good?
They've said they want to keep the game mostly a secret and let players find it out themselves. If the videos show what they have done then they have a lot of features they've promised. They had a graphical update not too long ago.
I agree they have something. Again my posts reflect that I think the game is like shadowbane which flopped because it was based on hype and the game delivered only a fraction of what was promised all with dated graphics. I have continually said I don't believe it is vaporware.
You do know that you have a contradiction there right... if they keep the game a secret then players can't find out for themselves. Only by having a beta or game play videos can a player judge anything.
I am sure some of the hardcore fanboys will try to say there are a ton of movies out there... I have looked at these movies.... most are just animated models... there are no indicators of any mechanics. I have yet to see a DF movie that shows the UI or dmg being done... anything really that indicates the mechanics underneath the visuals. If you know where I can find a DF movie that shows these things please provide a link... otherwise there is no proof that anything is done other then some subpar modeling and animation.
Another post brought up AoC... First DF shows no PvP... only models hitting each other... So neither game has shown anything on PvP. Second I have my doubts about AoC as well. While there are more movies out there including ones with mechanics shown... the game is being developed by funcom... The media hype for AoC is very similar to what AO went through... I think AoC will have the same release problems and let downs that AO had.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
I agree they have something. Again my posts reflect that I think the game is like shadowbane which flopped because it was based on hype and the game delivered only a fraction of what was promised all with dated graphics. I have continually said I don't believe it is vaporware.
You do know that you have a contradiction there right... if they keep the game a secret then players can't find out for themselves. Only by having a beta or game play videos can a player judge anything. I am sure some of the hardcore fanboys will try to say there are a ton of movies out there... I have looked at these movies.... most are just animated models... there are no indicators of any mechanics. I have yet to see a DF movie that shows the UI or dmg being done... anything really that indicates the mechanics underneath the visuals. If you know where I can find a DF movie that shows these things please provide a link... otherwise there is no proof that anything is done other then some subpar modeling and animation. Another post brought up AoC... First DF shows no PvP... only models hitting each other... So neither game has shown anything on PvP. Second I have my doubts about AoC as well. While there are more movies out there including ones with mechanics shown... the game is being developed by funcom... The media hype for AoC is very similar to what AO went through... I think AoC will have the same release problems and let downs that AO had.
Well im sorry for that misunderstanding then.
Yes they want to keep it mostly a secret but they still tell the players a little about the game.
There are 5 official videos out and from my knowledge i dont know one that shows UI. the only thing i could give you would be screen shots.
Not flamming but to flame a game for taking its time to develop is hypocritical. You people are the same ones who will moan and cry about a game being rushed to release.
Can I ask why flame a game youve spent no money on ? Why flame a game you havent played , no one has played. How can you make a rational flame about a game you have not played ? I'm just curious to the flammers out there how do you justify flamming a game youve spent nothing on ? How can you flame a company for taking there time to release THERE GAME. Its not your game, they owe us nothing until we start paying to play.
I'm not flaming the game, I'm discrediting the company behind the game. I don't believe the game exists, how is that flaming? Until Aventurine proves me wrong with an outside 3rd party review, an official BETA or something other then internal company handouts that show nothing as to the games functionality, it's vaporware.
I'm not against Darkfall, I'm just against Aventurine, there is a difference.
Could that be the reason why you'r so obsessed with Aventurine?
"There's a pet troll/stalker we've had with us for about 3 years, the ex webmaster of a now apparently defunct MMO project, who's been sending private messages through our boards, and posting for whoever will listen, claiming that Darkfall is/was up for sale among other things. This of course, along with everything else he's been saying over the years has nothing to do with reality.
This guy has been sending us hundreds of email messages for about 3 years from his home computer, apparently unaware that hotmail reports the originating IP. The content of the emails ranges from hate mail, to spam about his game, to threats, to childish attempts at impersonating publishers, investors etc. He's also been diligently, trying to slander Darkfall on game boards, again from his home PC and using a lot of aliases.
While this has been amusing, in a village idiot kind of way, it's about time we clarified for those who are susceptible to buying into this pathology. This kind of thing has happened before, and it's extremely sad to see the ugly face of what some people think are competitive practices."
Thats a fine and dandy speech by Tasos, but uhm, doesn't answer any of the current doubts floating around now does it? It's easy to say "Hey, we have a pest on the internet that won't leave us alone and has been bugging our fans with lies for 3 years." but he seemed to have left out which lies are the pests and which lies are Aventurines. I'm pretty sure everything I've brought up about Aventurine is not lies, unless this pest somehow managed to hack into the Darkfall website twice now to advertise BETA's.
See, it's these vague statements by Tasos that lacks reassurance about the game. If he can't be specific about what lies were created by this pest, I highly doubt the lies are even the root of the problem and he's just using this as a scapegoat for the game's gloomy outlook. My best guess, BETA #3 is not going to happen and Tasos is playing his cards now to prepare the fans in a subtle, it wasn't our fault, manner.
public beta by October, or I'll club a baby seal. Thats all you need to read. Reaching and wishful thinking basically. go Surly.
Yeah right, make the poor seal pay for the incompetence of the Devs, way to go
Even IF Darkfall shoudl EVER release, it'll be just plain horrible. It'll stink, the Gameplay will simply suck.
As long as I don't see a Convention Visitor playing a functional Version of Darkfall, recorded with a Camcorder, and he having fun... I don't trust in Darkfall.
public beta by October, or I'll club a baby seal. Thats all you need to read. Reaching and wishful thinking basically. go Surly.
Yeah right, make the poor seal pay for the incompetence of the Devs, way to go
Even IF Darkfall shoudl EVER release, it'll be just plain horrible. It'll stink, the Gameplay will simply suck.
As long as I don't see a Convention Visitor playing a functional Version of Darkfall, recorded with a Camcorder, and he having fun... I don't trust in Darkfall.
Well its the seals fault really.
LOL. It cant possibly suck as much as your reasoning. Bring something real to the table, then we'll talk.
I don't think Aventurine can delay beta anymore, they almost have to show if they can pull their game live or not (beta). If it gets delayed beyond AoC and WAR launches.. very bad news for their community numbers. Beta 2007 or baibai DF. Btw, I find it funny that we have seen plenty of PvP in DF videos, but not a second of AoC PvP. I guess that means AoC PvP will suck horribly
Even if AoC and WAR launches people are going to be interested in DF because its a quite well known game even if they think its vaporware. Then once it comes out they'll think "Hey wasnt that that vaporware game, I should go check it out".
Well I hope it doesnt.
Darkfall is a dreamland for clans and you can bet majority of clans will move to either WAR or AoC if DF isn't at least in beta by then. And once a clan settles in to a new game they wont leave easily. Don't forget Aventurine, just like any other MMORPG developer, will need customers by tens of thousands. Just saying, Aventurine will have very hard times ahead if they fail to launch beta this year.
I don't think Aventurine can delay beta anymore, they almost have to show if they can pull their game live or not (beta). If it gets delayed beyond AoC and WAR launches.. very bad news for their community numbers. Beta 2007 or baibai DF. Btw, I find it funny that we have seen plenty of PvP in DF videos, but not a second of AoC PvP. I guess that means AoC PvP will suck horribly
Even if AoC and WAR launches people are going to be interested in DF because its a quite well known game even if they think its vaporware. Then once it comes out they'll think "Hey wasnt that that vaporware game, I should go check it out".
Well I hope it doesnt.
Darkfall is a dreamland for clans and you can bet majority of clans will move to either WAR or AoC if DF isn't at least in beta by then. And once a clan settles in to a new game they wont leave easily. Don't forget Aventurine, just like any other MMORPG developer, will need customers by tens of thousands. Just saying, Aventurine will have very hard times ahead if they fail to launch beta this year.
Thats a ridiculous thing to say. Cant a clan play more than one game?
public beta by October, or I'll club a baby seal. Thats all you need to read. Reaching and wishful thinking basically. go Surly.
Yeah right, make the poor seal pay for the incompetence of the Devs, way to go
Even IF Darkfall shoudl EVER release, it'll be just plain horrible. It'll stink, the Gameplay will simply suck.
As long as I don't see a Convention Visitor playing a functional Version of Darkfall, recorded with a Camcorder, and he having fun... I don't trust in Darkfall.
Well its the seals fault really.
LOL. It cant possibly suck as much as your reasoning. Bring something real to the table, then we'll talk.
Actually, I think it's Aventurine that needs to bring something real to the table. Until then, you calling us liars is kind of mute, cause you don't know a damn thing about the state of the game or it's existance. You have no proof at all that the game exists, except for what Aventurine tells you and well, that source of info is quite limited and not exactly trustworthy.
I havent called anyone liars for that reason.
So because your being skeptical that it makes any source of information untrustworthy?
What do u have proof that it doesnt exist? A few points in history? So i guess that means US is going to have a republican president next election right?
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Hey, don't ask me why they headed for Turkey, and not say try a run for Albania!Yea right even if they got across the border they would still end up in prison.
All I do is bring headlines from the future!
I would've ran to pakistan. No one would ever guess.
Yeah, but the Pakistanies are a way more hardcore crowd than Aventurine, they would PvP murder them asap.
yea...poor aventurine.
"He was being specific about it. They said the guy was posting about DF being up for sale. So anything else started by that guy was a lie too"
haha so you think just because this Tasos guy , producer or whatever of the longest running vaporware in History says something is false that it autimatically means it false?? good lord wake up. You're extremely gullible.
Funny how he didn't come right out and name any names right??? He made some "vague" referances instead. Thats because its probably true and he wanted to sweep it under the rug as quckly and easily as possible without anymore people digging.
"The Greek coast guard caught up with fleeing bandits this afternoon, who were trying to make a quick get away to Turkey with a leaking row boat. "
I bet they were trying to bring the darkfall beta DVD to mmorpg.com editors and Aventurine figured it needed to be in development for another 7 years before that happened.
The past 3 years are littered with several MMOs that have had money pumped into them and ultimately were yanked.
Your right that it is their game and they have the choice to show as much as they want. You are forgetting that we are the potential consumer and have the right to complain if a company is less then forthcoming with information vital to a product we are interested in.
You can not give me one valid argument why the information is lacking. They have their website and other free media sources to display their game... After 6 years (4 with a full dev team) you would think they could throw the community a bone.
Will the game be released... probably... will it have the features it boasts about or up to date graphics... probably not.
Darkfall is turning into another shadowbane.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
"Darkfall is turning into another shadowbane."
Actually Shadowbane was well into a public beta around 4 years into development and was out on the market after 5 years.
darkfall is still in some kind of strange pre alpha or dreamy internal pre beta phase after 6 years.
I mean even the most die hard gullible fanboys have to admit that something is seriously wrong with this project somewhere. It has so many red flags waving.
I agree... but I think the game is more the vaporware... they do have some videos out... That is why I compared it to shadowbane.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
I admit that the Darkfall Online project has been a hazy cloud of horrible communication and lost deadlines. The thing i don't understand is why so many people believe the graphics are out dated, I watched the mount video and i was astonished by the graphics, Grass moving fluidly, trees that were unique looking with dynamic movement. Shadows from the leave on the tree and mounted woman, moving with the leaves as they move from the wind. The reflection from the armor seemed great. Perhaps it is because i run a system that would make a dev drool uncontrolably but the videos are some of the best i've yet seen, perhaps Age of Conan's graphics are a touch better, but neither game is lacking to be sure.
Yes, i am one of the many hopefull dreamers wishing for Darkfall but I do see realism from these clouded eyes as well. Darkfall is something that we all want, it's fun to mock and poke at but we will all be on a band wagon straight for MMO history once it releases, and im sure some will mourn if it falls as many have before it.
And I want to either A, see that future headline come to life or B, Let that 27.5 million USD go to amazingly good use..........What do you say we all watch and see rather then making speculations of nothingness that no one could possibly hope to know
Stop making posts like these on the MMORPG forums here. All optimistic people should just come to Forumfall. Seriously, active MMORPG.com forum members are nerds that only slag off MMO's. I bet they get their asses kicked all the time.
I am on Forumfall, and overly active, the name Drakefire ring a bell=)
I don't think Aventurine can delay beta anymore, they almost have to show if they can pull their game live or not (beta). If it gets delayed beyond AoC and WAR launches.. very bad news for their community numbers. Beta 2007 or baibai DF.
Btw, I find it funny that we have seen plenty of PvP in DF videos, but not a second of AoC PvP. I guess that means AoC PvP will suck horribly
Even if AoC and WAR launches people are going to be interested in DF because its a quite well known game even if they think its vaporware. Then once it comes out they'll think "Hey wasnt that that vaporware game, I should go check it out".
Well I hope it doesnt.
The past 3 years are littered with several MMOs that have had money pumped into them and ultimately were yanked.
Your right that it is their game and they have the choice to show as much as they want. You are forgetting that we are the potential consumer and have the right to complain if a company is less then forthcoming with information vital to a product we are interested in.
You can not give me one valid argument why the information is lacking. They have their website and other free media sources to display their game... After 6 years (4 with a full dev team) you would think they could throw the community a bone.
Will the game be released... probably... will it have the features it boasts about or up to date graphics... probably not.
Darkfall is turning into another shadowbane.
They took out a 27.5 million loan and now they have to pay that back WITH interest. Now taking out that amount of money while having no game seems almost ridiculous to believe. They have something but the question is, is it good?
They've said they want to keep the game mostly a secret and let players find it out themselves.
If the videos show what they have done then they have a lot of features they've promised. They had a graphical update not too long ago.
4 years actually. Once again show me these "Red Flags". Its funny because most say they have Giant Red Flags but they've yet to list any.
When I saw the title of this thread, I got the laugh I needed for the day. Thank you.
Hes been there for three years saying the same thing over and over people KNEW who he was talking about. The guy made alot of false statements so you wanted them to list each and every one of them?
The whole POINT of that thread was NOT about the troll it was about them having STRONGER moderation because some people were abusing it. I wonder if you realized that.
You do know that you have a contradiction there right... if they keep the game a secret then players can't find out for themselves. Only by having a beta or game play videos can a player judge anything.
I am sure some of the hardcore fanboys will try to say there are a ton of movies out there... I have looked at these movies.... most are just animated models... there are no indicators of any mechanics. I have yet to see a DF movie that shows the UI or dmg being done... anything really that indicates the mechanics underneath the visuals. If you know where I can find a DF movie that shows these things please provide a link... otherwise there is no proof that anything is done other then some subpar modeling and animation.
Another post brought up AoC... First DF shows no PvP... only models hitting each other... So neither game has shown anything on PvP. Second I have my doubts about AoC as well. While there are more movies out there including ones with mechanics shown... the game is being developed by funcom... The media hype for AoC is very similar to what AO went through... I think AoC will have the same release problems and let downs that AO had.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Yes they want to keep it mostly a secret but they still tell the players a little about the game.
There are 5 official videos out and from my knowledge i dont know one that shows UI. the only thing i could give you would be screen shots.
I'm not flaming the game, I'm discrediting the company behind the game. I don't believe the game exists, how is that flaming? Until Aventurine proves me wrong with an outside 3rd party review, an official BETA or something other then internal company handouts that show nothing as to the games functionality, it's vaporware.
I'm not against Darkfall, I'm just against Aventurine, there is a difference.
Could that be the reason why you'r so obsessed with Aventurine?
"There's a pet troll/stalker we've had with us for about 3 years, the ex webmaster of a now apparently defunct MMO project, who's been sending private messages through our boards, and posting for whoever will listen, claiming that Darkfall is/was up for sale among other things. This of course, along with everything else he's been saying over the years has nothing to do with reality.
This guy has been sending us hundreds of email messages for about 3 years from his home computer, apparently unaware that hotmail reports the originating IP. The content of the emails ranges from hate mail, to spam about his game, to threats, to childish attempts at impersonating publishers, investors etc. He's also been diligently, trying to slander Darkfall on game boards, again from his home PC and using a lot of aliases.
While this has been amusing, in a village idiot kind of way, it's about time we clarified for those who are susceptible to buying into this pathology. This kind of thing has happened before, and it's extremely sad to see the ugly face of what some people think are competitive practices."
Thats a fine and dandy speech by Tasos, but uhm, doesn't answer any of the current doubts floating around now does it? It's easy to say "Hey, we have a pest on the internet that won't leave us alone and has been bugging our fans with lies for 3 years." but he seemed to have left out which lies are the pests and which lies are Aventurines. I'm pretty sure everything I've brought up about Aventurine is not lies, unless this pest somehow managed to hack into the Darkfall website twice now to advertise BETA's.
See, it's these vague statements by Tasos that lacks reassurance about the game. If he can't be specific about what lies were created by this pest, I highly doubt the lies are even the root of the problem and he's just using this as a scapegoat for the game's gloomy outlook. My best guess, BETA #3 is not going to happen and Tasos is playing his cards now to prepare the fans in a subtle, it wasn't our fault, manner.
I believe you....No really i do!
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Darkfall is a myth. Soon as WAR, AoC and the rest come out hopefully DF will be forgotten.
Yeah right, make the poor seal pay for the incompetence of the Devs, way to go
Even IF Darkfall shoudl EVER release, it'll be just plain horrible. It'll stink, the Gameplay will simply suck.
As long as I don't see a Convention Visitor playing a functional Version of Darkfall, recorded with a Camcorder, and he having fun... I don't trust in Darkfall.
Yeah right, make the poor seal pay for the incompetence of the Devs, way to go
Even IF Darkfall shoudl EVER release, it'll be just plain horrible. It'll stink, the Gameplay will simply suck.
As long as I don't see a Convention Visitor playing a functional Version of Darkfall, recorded with a Camcorder, and he having fun... I don't trust in Darkfall.
Well its the seals fault really.LOL. It cant possibly suck as much as your reasoning. Bring something real to the table, then we'll talk.
Even if AoC and WAR launches people are going to be interested in DF because its a quite well known game even if they think its vaporware. Then once it comes out they'll think "Hey wasnt that that vaporware game, I should go check it out".
Well I hope it doesnt.
Darkfall is a dreamland for clans and you can bet majority of clans will move to either WAR or AoC if DF isn't at least in beta by then. And once a clan settles in to a new game they wont leave easily. Don't forget Aventurine, just like any other MMORPG developer, will need customers by tens of thousands. Just saying, Aventurine will have very hard times ahead if they fail to launch beta this year.Even if AoC and WAR launches people are going to be interested in DF because its a quite well known game even if they think its vaporware. Then once it comes out they'll think "Hey wasnt that that vaporware game, I should go check it out".
Well I hope it doesnt.
Darkfall is a dreamland for clans and you can bet majority of clans will move to either WAR or AoC if DF isn't at least in beta by then. And once a clan settles in to a new game they wont leave easily. Don't forget Aventurine, just like any other MMORPG developer, will need customers by tens of thousands. Just saying, Aventurine will have very hard times ahead if they fail to launch beta this year.Thats a ridiculous thing to say. Cant a clan play more than one game?
Yeah right, make the poor seal pay for the incompetence of the Devs, way to go
Even IF Darkfall shoudl EVER release, it'll be just plain horrible. It'll stink, the Gameplay will simply suck.
As long as I don't see a Convention Visitor playing a functional Version of Darkfall, recorded with a Camcorder, and he having fun... I don't trust in Darkfall.
Well its the seals fault really.LOL. It cant possibly suck as much as your reasoning. Bring something real to the table, then we'll talk.
Actually, I think it's Aventurine that needs to bring something real to the table. Until then, you calling us liars is kind of mute, cause you don't know a damn thing about the state of the game or it's existance. You have no proof at all that the game exists, except for what Aventurine tells you and well, that source of info is quite limited and not exactly trustworthy.
I havent called anyone liars for that reason.
So because your being skeptical that it makes any source of information untrustworthy?
What do u have proof that it doesnt exist? A few points in history? So i guess that means US is going to have a republican president next election right?
Sure, if they have no life that is.
Actually mourning was vaporware heh...
Dark and light had a pretty good community until it went beta... Then people saw how lacking the game really was.
I agree though... in the past 5 years independent game companies have a rather concrete record of turning out bad MMOs.
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