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Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777

completely revamped the graphics without changing the core gameplay, would it be a good thing to you?  Let's say that if you installed the expansion, the graphics that you saw were the high end graphics on par with today's cutting edge MMOs.  If you didn't install the package, you'd continue to see WoW as it is today.  Would this breath new life into the game?

 

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  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094

    it would be a bad thing for millions, the fact WoW has millions of subs is because it can run on old machines, if you spec those players out they cannot play and blizz losses them.. besides WoW's gfx are fine IMHO.

    And does WoW need new life breathed into it? Subs have not dropped from day 1 if you believe blizzard.  But channging gfx to top end would break the game, make it too detached form the rest of the Warcraft universe.

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  • SlntasnSlntasn Member Posts: 711

    No, what would happen to the people that don't buy the expansion?

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  • LilfurbalLilfurbal Member Posts: 115

    Most likely not for me.  I didn't quit the game because of the graphics so I wouldn't return for the graphics.  :)

  • brainchild64brainchild64 Member Posts: 32

    Why do we need to breath new life into a game with 9 million subscribers?  I personally left because I hated the community and the gameplay at 60 bored me to tears.  No I won't be going back to play burning crusade.  My addiction is broken and I feel no need to rekindle it.  Time to find a new one.

  • METALDRAG0NMETALDRAG0N Member Posts: 1,680
    Originally posted by Deathstrike2


    completely revamped the graphics without changing the core gameplay, would it be a good thing to you?  Let's say that if you installed the expansion, the graphics that you saw were the high end graphics on par with today's cutting edge MMOs.  If you didn't install the package, you'd continue to see WoW as it is today.  Would this breath new life into the game?
     

    Hardly Graphics wont fix the mediocra gameplay.

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  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138

    Nope.  I already believe WoW is "on par" with the current crop of MMO's graphics.

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  • LucifrankLucifrank Member Posts: 355
    Originally posted by brainchild64


    Why do we need to breath new life into a game with 9 million subscribers?  I personally left because I hated the community and the gameplay at 60 bored me to tears.  No I won't be going back to play burning crusade.  My addiction is broken and I feel no need to rekindle it.  Time to find a new one.



    I agree with the last two posters. It's not about graphics. And what life needs to be breathed into the dominant force in the MMORPG industry? They are at the height of their popularity. Individually, I would never go back to WoW and not because it's a bad game. It gave me a year and 1/2 of solid entertainment, but I'm bored with the world, the lore (or lack thereof), and the game mechanics. Though I personally have a "been there, done that" attitude towards the game at this point in my own gaming adventures, I'd still recommend it to someone just getting into the MMORPG genre.

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777

    First of all, Let's read the OP again.  If you didn't buy the expansion, it wouldn't change your gameplay at all, and it wouldn't make any difference in your gameplay.  The millions of people with old machines would still be able to play the same game they are playing today.

    Second, this is a hypothetical question, so please don't get so defensive.  I'm not slamming the game at all, and I acknowledge that as far as subscription numbers goes, it's king of the hill.  Still, I wonder what it would be like with cutting edge graphics and the same gameplay that 9 million people know and love.  It seems like that would be an awsome combination and a bonus for anyone with a decent gaming rig. 

     

  • METALDRAG0NMETALDRAG0N Member Posts: 1,680

    Originally posted by Pappy13


    Nope.  I already believe WoW is "on par" with the current crop of MMO's graphics.
    Really!!!   [raises Eybrow].

     

    Tell me do you need prescription glasses?

    I ask that becasue i guess if icouldnt see clearly all games would look as Blurry as WoW

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  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094
    Originally posted by METALDRAG0N


     
    Originally posted by Pappy13


    Nope.  I already believe WoW is "on par" with the current crop of MMO's graphics.
    Really!!!   [raises Eybrow].

     

     

    Tell me do you need prescription glasses?

    I ask that becasue i guess if icouldnt see clearly all games would look as Blurry as WoW

    OK.. who let him out of his cage?

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  • METALDRAG0NMETALDRAG0N Member Posts: 1,680
    Originally posted by cupertino

    Originally posted by METALDRAG0N


     
    Originally posted by Pappy13


    Nope.  I already believe WoW is "on par" with the current crop of MMO's graphics.
    Really!!!   [raises Eybrow].

     

     

    Tell me do you need prescription glasses?

    I ask that becasue i guess if icouldnt see clearly all games would look as Blurry as WoW

    OK.. who let him out of his cage?

    Yea thats what i thought too 

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  • ZarraaZarraa Member Posts: 481

     

    Originally posted by Pappy13


    Nope.  I already believe WoW is "on par" with the current crop of MMO's graphics.



    Well I want what you've been drinking...

     

    I would give WOW another go if they updated the graphics engine.  The gameplay while simplistic was intended to be a stripped down version of EQI so that's kind of par for the course.

    I don't buy the millions would quit excuse either as it's now 2007. I highly doubt people are still playing on those 2002-2003 machines.

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  • EvilzimEvilzim Member Posts: 33

    Unfortunately, no.  Revamping the graphics would not only lose at least a portion of its player base but it would just be a waste of time.  What WoW needs is new gameplay features.  Its a great game, but there are only so many times you can run the same instances over and over and over. Then you move on to the next instance with similar bosses, similar trash, all of course with shinny new skin so it looks new and different.

    There is only so many times you can be excited about a new piece of equipment before you just don't care anymore.  WoW needs some type of alternative advancement or something. Cause as it is, people will eventually get bored of the same old.  I have. Others will.

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  • stabemzstabemz Member Posts: 132

    the graphics are real good as it is except for some of the terrain, but what blizzard needs to do is add more classes and more stuff to do instead of PvE all their adding is PvE and its getting more and more boring every raid

  • ToriryuToriryu Member Posts: 29

    Many says that graphics are bad, but I think they are unique, and reminds much about Warcraft 3 style... I don't see the problems, is it the characters? Aren't they realistic enough? Or are they just plain ugly? I admit that some of the characters look ugly, but get a helmet and the problem is fixed. This expansion you speak of would only make the graphics different, but not better.

  • davidw123davidw123 Member Posts: 70

    I don't see what's supposed to be so bad about the graphics personally. Compared to the blandness that is the graphics in Vanguard or LoTR, I think WoW looks fine.

    An optional graphics upgrade via an expansion would be a good idea. That way if you have a top of the range computer, you can upgrade the graphics to something amazing while for those of us playing on lesser machines (i.e. 99% of us), we can keep the old settings.

  • JackDonkeyJackDonkey Member Posts: 383

    WoW graphics have never been a complaint from me.

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  • squidsoupsquidsoup Member Posts: 5

    WoW  may not have excellent graphics, but what it does have, is excellent art and design. Ultimately that is significantly more important to me visually than fancy shaders and such. I'm currently playing Lord of the Rings Online, and while the graphics are superior to WoW, the art itself is bland and uninspired. WoW has much more visual appeal.

  • Shadowjack65Shadowjack65 Member Posts: 11
    Originally posted by Deathstrike2


    completely revamped the graphics without changing the core gameplay, would it be a good thing to you?  Let's say that if you installed the expansion, the graphics that you saw were the high end graphics on par with today's cutting edge MMOs.  If you didn't install the package, you'd continue to see WoW as it is today.  Would this breath new life into the game?
     

    I don't know about new life but it would be welcome.  I have two NVIDIA 7900GTX cards running SLI, (going to wait for the price of the 8800's to drop), and I'd love to take advantage of that in WoW.

  • zack702zack702 Member Posts: 56

    The graphics might not be photorealistic but they are good. Especially the BC content it looks great. And the animations in wow are for the most part smoother than other mmorpgs i have played.

  • treefittytreefitty Member Posts: 260

    I played WoW for 2 years, I quit because of BC cause they didn't really bring anything out that was different from PRE-BC. I prefer the cartoonish graphics. I played WoW to escape reality, from a long day at work. Games that are too photorealistic remind me too much of RL and I want an escape from it when I play video games.

     

    The same for graphics I liked BFV compared to Battlefield 2. I like arcade style games.

     

    WoW is the Arcade style of MMORPGS. If WoW could find away to bring pvp into a better light then I would be resubscribing the day that content came out.

  • BardocBardoc Member Posts: 10

    As others have said. Graphics engines are directly related to the technology of the code and the hardware expected to run the software. They have nothing to do with the game content, appeal of the style, or otherwise.

    I would not buy a game based on its use of a graphics capabilities of a limited set of video cards.

    I have played wow a couple of years and haven't updated my hardware much beyond getting more RAM. For most people upgrading hardware to a $600 card every couple of years is a big deal. They mostly just can't afford it.

    I like WoWs artistic direction.

    The list of things that I do want from Blizzard is not very long but honestly I'll play the game as long as their isn't a better option for me and the friends I play with.

    I am currently researching other MMOs. And playing them. And so far none of them have wowed me much. After reading all the bitching on this site about how bad WoW is I expected to find some bitching games out there at the top of the rating list. And what I have found rated the same as WoW or above just plainly doesn't cut it.

    Eve being one exception. However, the learning curve on their UI is substantially steep.

  • zack702zack702 Member Posts: 56

    Originally posted by Bardoc
     
    I am currently researching other MMOs. And playing them. And so far none of them have wowed me much. After reading all the bitching on this site about how bad WoW is I expected to find some bitching games out there at the top of the rating list. And what I have found rated the same as WoW or above just plainly doesn't cut it.
    Eve being one exception. However, the learning curve on their UI is substantially steep.

    Same here except some come close and some even excel in certain areas but the fun factor of most of the other mmorpgs I have played just doesn't compare to WOW.

    Eve is fun and the game flows smooth like WOW but the space sim thing just isnt for me.

    I hear Hellgate London is going to be good.

     

  • JosherJosher Member Posts: 2,818

    As far as number of polys, WOW is far behind.  As for art design, creativity and variety of environments, WOW blows away every MMORPG out there.   It would be nice to get a revamp that gives us some real shadows, higher res textures and a few more polys.  But WARCRAFT has a particular art style.    Adding more polys won't make it look that much better from the typical birds eye view anyway.  Its only when you zoom in that you really notice.

    In motion from your typical gameplay perspective, WOW holds up just fine.  No one plays in slide show mode in 1st person view the whole time anyway;)   One day Blizzard will most likely  offer a graphics upgrade. 

  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138

     

    Originally posted by METALDRAG0N


     
    Originally posted by Pappy13


    Nope.  I already believe WoW is "on par" with the current crop of MMO's graphics.
    Really!!!   [raises Eybrow].

     

     

    Tell me do you need prescription glasses?

    I ask that becasue i guess if icouldnt see clearly all games would look as Blurry as WoW



    Nope, I don't need glasses.  Maybe you need a new monitor if the game looks blurry to you.  Looks fine on my PC. 

     

    Maybe I should ask which game you consider "the current crop of MMO's" because I've played LOTRO and WoW's graphics are "on par" with them.  That doesn't necessarily mean they are as good, but close enough.  That's what "on par" means.  I haven't played a bunch of MMO's, so which MMO's do you consider the best graphics wise?  If there's a demo I'll try it out and compare the graphics to WoW's graphics.  If I'm blown away, I'll concede, but otherwise I'll stick to my assertion that WoW's graphics are "on par" with current MMO's.

    On a side note, Blizzard is saying that their new expansion will have better graphics, so the OP may get his question answered.

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