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aww man the MMO future doesn't look so bright...
Chikaca
Member Posts: 62
AoC is gona flop. I can assure you! Nothing but empty promises and hype (unless they delay the game for like another year), but I know there is no way I can convince you fanbois you are just going to have to find out the hard way like the Vanbois did.
WAR is just gona be mainstream.. WOW2 for kids.. so I guess the 9 million kids playing WoW may find a new home!
Darkfall will never release nor I say it should judged by the stuff they have shown so far and soon it's going to be very outdated game.
and then theres a dozen of these games that never even had a chance. Their resources just won't cut it, they are just gona be so so games at best.
So you all may as well get a life and come back in 5 - 10 years and see if this genre has developed at all.. So far all the games I have seen are just as much interesting as a hamster on a wheel.
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somehow i dont think AoC will flop.. but who knows..
pirates looks good and i cant wait for that to come out
Or perhaps you just need to follow your own advice and let the rest of us enjoy whatever comes along?
Positive thinking ftw
Everyone has their own opinion I guess.
I'm more of a "glass is half full " kinda person.
rofl, get a bigger HD you may need it. 20 TB by 2010 just to Download all the something or others.
Personally I think both AoC and WAR will both do well.
As for WAR being WoW 2, I really can't agree with you there. WAR is about PvP, WoW is mainly a PvE raiding game. Both games have a very different focus. Just because the games have similar art styles when it comes to the Dwarven race, dosn't mean that they are the same. Personally, I think that the Dwarves in WoW and WAR are the ONLY thing that look similar about the game.
PotBS looks like it will be a breath of fresh air into MMOs. We've never seen an MMO quit like this one before. I'm really looking forward to it.
Huxley is looking like an amazingly beautiful game. I one can only hope that the gameplay and PvP match up to how pretty the game is.
Aion is looking like it will be alot of fun too. Adding a few small features to the genre can make a huge difference.
As for Darkfall, I really don't have much to say about that. It will be released when its done... Or if its ever done, we just have to wait and see.
SUN looks to be an interesting take on combat as well.
All of these new games are bringing new and different features to MMOs. Then sometime down the line you are going to have another company like Blizzard come along and decide to take all the best innovations and plug them into a new game. Then we'll have the next super hit.
- - "What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?" - -
Predict all the gloom you want. This is a nascient medium, and you will be right at some point; the landscape will be dismal. Small companies with microbudgets can no longer be able to create compelling games and then go look for a publisher, but the deep pocket guys don't have any idea what they are doing, YET. Don't worry, they will. A lot of crap will come out. The close relationships between devs and players will be severed. But, eventually, the big guys will start to get it right. There will be periods of stagnation when it's better to play an old game than to buy a new one (which, frankly, isn't such a bad thing--I miss the days when I planned to stick with a game for years, instead of months), and then great innovations will drive periods of great creativity.
You see it in television, movies, music, all the big media industries. It's coming to our worlds next. There will be some bad, there will be some good. There will be more MBAs involved, but there will also be more money for R&D and greater support for break-out ideas.
So cheer up! You're right, but you're not looking far enough ahead.
kisses,
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My opinion of WAR seems to be that it'll be the unofficial expansion pack for WoW. An expansion pack that just adds a lot more battlegrounds and pvp opportunities.
AoC seems like it'll be like, well, umm... it doesn't really seem like it'll be like anything else really. So it's a stand alone game.
I'm sure both will be doing well though. AoC doesn't resemble Vanguard at all, mostly in terms of Funcom releasing a ton of more information than Vanguard had the day before release. So they at least know what they're working on. WAR will do great, mostly for people are still WoW addicts and will enjoy a new pvp expansion pack which I'm sure there are a lot. People who quit WoW for one reason or another may find more interest in AoC or something else.
I think AoC and WAR both gonna do well, because at the time they gonna be released, most of the WoW players gonna be boored.
As for me, those games interest me as much dog shit.
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might I suggest a frisbee? just in case..
I think that the new games coming out in the next couple years have great promise. War will be a good game for the rvr genre more of a casual pvp i think. But more than wow around pvp. While AoC will have more of the hardcore pvp (this is just my opinion flame me if u want i can care less just what i think). Huxley if they make the game like how a mmofps in my mind should be like can be a awesome game. Things that were never possible to do 10 years ago or even 4 years ago is possible now there is so much room for new, great ideas for mmos and gaming in general. Its hard to say that the mmo future doesnt look to bright. When most of us im sure think that gaming will evolve and become something grander than now or even when the mmo world first came to be. It will be amazing.
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I agree with you on WAR being a kiddie playground or WoW refuge for addicted gamers but I would like to know however why you think AoC, will be a flop. Apparently from what you wrote "AoC is gona flop. I can assure you!" you seem to know something I don't. So where is the reassurence you offer?
The more and more I read into threads like this the more I have to inject my opinion.(And Thats all is is) These titles that are coming out do have appeal to somewhat of a good market so IMO I think as they may not be as huge as WoW they will still be decent games. By decent I refer to my experience with GW. I have gone back and forth playing it between MMO's and have always enjoyed it for a bit then I start looking elsewhere.
Now the main reason I think I go back Is due to the diversity of play styles possible on each and every toon. but what keeps me from getting engrossed is the non communal feeling of it all. WoW has a bit more of that feeling but still the grinds are to much.(for real)
Now that being said I'll go on to another aspect of the topic wich I think describes what lacks from all these games. first thing would be the lack of a need for crafts. I mean really what 4 out of 6 crafts in WoW are usless to the actuall game play. weather it be pvp or pve.
Crafting is what made games like UO IMO. You had people in the game that didn't do anything but craft.(by choice not guild requirements)
I knew a guy that mined half the day then made housing items the other half then sold em in his NPC vendors. Thats just what he liked to do. Same Applies to eve the crafting is essential in the economy in turn creating supply and demand.
Now as for PVP well there is NO PVP in existance anymore. Dieing and being ressed 2 mins later at and alter rinse repeat is not PVP. SRY but It just isent and never will be. Flame all you want but unless you have a game where you are dependant on your team or your skills alone in a 1-1 its all CANDY!!!
I will revert back to UO for the example. I'm running through destard Oh lookie lookie a red doing a spawn I'm gonna gank him!!!
The thing lacking in most of the MMO's today indeed is the conflict. For PVP anyways and by conflict I dont think the devs should be trying to direct it with a storyline the conflict needs to be developed and over a comon need or item or something anyway's.
Now I'm gonna say this about UO's Trammel I know a lot didn't like the introduction but I personnaly think it was a great thing to have done. Granted some aspects could have been implmented better but you got to remember that all these devs where working in a field that was in its infancy. Why do I think it was good. Because even though you had a bunch of so called newbs crying it still was the best setup i have ever seen to blend the two. PVP PVE into one game and give the player the choice to do what they wanted. I was a newb and lived in trammel for a while. even weent to fel and though OMG this sucks. ! 7xgm later I had a keep in fel and never left.
Look at the introduction of champ spawns IMO that made for some of the greatest PVP I have ever seen. Ive seen 200+vrs200+ ive seen 12 vrs 50 and the 12 won. Ive seen duels last more then 40 mins. Ive seen duels end in both the combatants die.(I was one of em though Ive only seen that happen 2 times in 5 yrs of playing.
But that just goes to show the ability the game had. I personnaly want to See UOX revived and not with all this ITEM BASED CRAP.
I'm not saying there should be no stats on gear at all cause then what would be the point of crafting once you had 1 million tunics made.But it needs to be within reason.WoW raid gear and now PVP epics are just plain silly.
But the balance needs to be delicate indeed so I;m not saying I have the answers just some thoughts. So flam on if you will but otherwise comment away and lets see what people think.
P.S for all you editor out there go read something else if i mossspellledddd someeee thingggg anddd it drives you crazy I hope you head just exploded.
"The most important thing is to have the design support the players in setting their own goals in both cooperative and competitive interaction with one another." - Ironore -
Ohh hehe one more thing.
I'm in battle and have just won.
Yayyyy!! I got points! (insert game here)
And also makes me worrie about WAR.
"The most important thing is to have the design support the players in setting their own goals in both cooperative and competitive interaction with one another." - Ironore -
Thats cause you're still stuck on American created games. Expand your horizons with Asian and Europe made ones too.
Couldn't care less... playing Second LIfe.
Really??? IMO, the Asian and Euro MMORPGs were even less multi-dimensional than the American ones....
I agree with you about AoC. Lots of talk but nothing to back it up. Knowing Funcom, what is in will probably be bugged and require a very specific type of hardware to play it at a decent rate. And you can pretty much forget about large scale battles without settings everything to minimum. They do have a force of fanboys willing to accept any scraps FC throws them though - it might be enough to keep it afloat, or at least buy them some time as they fix all the issues post release.
Have you looked at Infinity or Tabula Rasa? Both look promising. MMO's are very expensive to make so they come out less often. We can only hope that one of the 3 I'm rooting for hits the nail on the head.
Really??? IMO, the Asian and Euro MMORPGs were even less multi-dimensional than the American ones....
I really don't see how American games can be considered multi-dimensional, unless you mean they are in 3D. They're are only a couple things to do in an American MMO, and the only difference is how many of these things the game included. There hasn't been a serious attempt to get out of this for the last 4 years. Atleast in Europe and Asia they are trying new things. Changing the combat system, genre, growth system, and expanding non-essential gameplay. In America we just see the same old crap in a different set of clothing. They even keep the same redundant terms like feats, raiding, and class system.
Really??? IMO, the Asian and Euro MMORPGs were even less multi-dimensional than the American ones....
I really don't see how American games can be considered multi-dimensional, unless you mean they are in 3D. They're are only a couple things to do in an American MMO, and the only difference is how many of these things the game included. There hasn't been a serious attempt to get out of this for the last 4 years. Atleast in Europe and Asia they are trying new things. Changing the combat system, genre, growth system, and expanding non-essential gameplay. In America we just see the same old crap in a different set of clothing. They even keep the same redundant terms like feats, raiding, and class system.
Many of the members here feel that most Asian MMOs are mostly grindfests. But many American games are that way too... The genre does need to expand desperately.