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rabies2000
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Yo!
I played eve sometime ago, but got bored to its imbalance. And the "roles" didnt really stand out well enough. Everything i ever did, i succeeded way better in a BS, whether it was tacking or whatever. (well, exept for moving around solo was the only thing BS's were bad at.) Im pretty sure i were just better exploiting the BS's far superior versatility rather than actually flying one.
So, sometime ago i read about their intention to make somekind of activity for smaller groups in the future patches. Its been quite a while since i looked into things, so i thought of asking somewhere if thats already done, and did or does it mean 'smaller groups of BS's' or have they done something about the roles too?
Has there been any other major balancing adjustments other than the nanoBS thing?
Im writing this cuz i really liked the game, but its imbalance was quite ridiculous back then. Ive been just waiting, hoping they get it better.
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I don't quite get what you mean, ive never experienced imbalance >_> I regularly fly HACs, AFs, Recons, Logistics, Intys, or Covops over BS. I also take my Myrmidon BC out quite often and cruisers and frigs if i want something diposable. Often their versatility is far greater than either BS :-S
The new activities for smaller groups are indeed for smaller blobs, mainly of BS i guess, as is the norm for 20-30 man gangs.
Not sure what you mean by balancing, although they are introducing a nos nerf in the next patch that will improve how small ships perform against larger ones greatly
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well, BS don't work as coverts or as intercepters for tackle, or for droping interdiction spheres, although you could carry mobile warp disruption bubbles, but thats a bit risky due to deplolyment and takedown times. also fast scirmish gangs don't involve BS.
BS blobs are still a big thing though.
Thanks for the replies!
Good to hear about the nos, i thought something had to be done about it back then.
I asked about the small squad thing because i have not much time to play games. Even though i participated in the 0.0 stuff and everything, skirmish action was always my thing. And thats also because i wanted to actually play rather than make isk when i had the time.
And what comes of tackling, im sure (nano-)BS aint working now as well as back then. I also found it somewhat strange that you could maintain disruptor + mwd infinitely, not to mention the exceptional offence, only in one type of a ceptor. No wonder why most of the ceptors encountered were crows back then. Also, i often used t1 fitted cruiser over a ceptor for tackling, as it was cheap and fast enough and could keep tackling for longer than any t2 fitted ceptor other than crow.
My friend who was still playing few months back (flying gallentes) noticed the imbalances too and mentioned specially of myrmidons. He quit for the same reason as i did a while ago.
Well, it could be that i recall it more horribly that it really was. But i guess it gets better while time goes by, even though i was a bit worried when they keep adding new stuff like heat.
Eve has a great idea afterall, it might be that i find myself back there someday.
yeah, the nano phoon period was awful. especially since the inertia would carry them through webbers.
the main thing with eve is the adage "adapt or die (or quit)", thankfully the nanophoons are a lot less powerful now. T1 fitted cruisers can make good tacklers but then so can a 500k fitted t1 frig. all you have to do is get your point on. DPS is the last thing a tackler should be thinking about.
the mymidon is considered overpower due to it being able to field 5 hvy drones and NOS. NOS is being nerfed, ind you can shoot the hvy drones.
there are always some ships that out shine others. speed tanked ships are untouchable if they are flown wisely. crows are great (shitty dps though), so are vagas, the thing is that they really can only kill people who are flying foolishly. and you can force them to flee or choose not to engage very easily.
hope, you're interest is rekindled as it can be a a very good game.
There are always ships "better" than others, such as a myrm over a brutix, or a taranis over an ares. However, this will be counterbalanced by other things, such as the price, or a different /smaller skill set to use them.
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Well to start wiht CCP hated Nanophoons or indees any excessive Nano Battleship so Nano's were aparently altteredsomehow to make such setups not work. As for small group combat And im assuming combat in frigates and cruiser well there are some new classes of ships based on such hull designs. For example there is now a Destroyer class which is basically a ship thats between Frigates and cruisers and often has 8 small turret slots and room for fitting some decent Tackling gear. Thats one of the ways CCP ahve RE-adressed the old probem of everyone just getting batlteships by making some specilised ship classes that do some of the roles Battleships used to do better and by nerfing or rather Ballancing certain modules.
Reemmber the Armaggeddon and its 8 Tech 2 Heat sinks. Now that was a BIG damage dealer the perfest gank setup. Then CCP ballanced the HEatsinks where you could only get bonuses to yor wepons from the first 3 Heatsinks MAX. Now that setup nolonger exists. So CCP is Ballancing everything over time through altering modules and creating neew ship classes where needed, but of course this cant be done overnight and sometimes some problems they probably are not aware off till the community informs then.
So if you do go back to EvE [which youy should as Ambulation looks to be the beginings of a cool EvE addition.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
As already stated above its not all about BS's , tbh myself I prefer recons and since im spec'd in caldari I fly rook and falcon, since caldari bs's are more PVE orientated. A recon ship can provide a very good balance when your gang comes up against a slighty larger gang, since with the rook or falcon I can render up to 6 of the hostile ships useless (its based on a strength and a bit of randomness) . Although the day the BS disappears from Fleet combat and PVP is the day Eve will die imo
Not nessasarily as it will depend on what CCP use to replace battleships wont it?
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
with the nos change small ships are now 10 times more effective.
yay ammar boost!
hmm yes and no. depends on if your target is packing a neut or not