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Gingrich - "Phony War" on Terror
gnomexxx
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Newt Gingrich just gave a speech to a group of "conservative" students. I think after you read this article you're going to find that he probably wasn't a popular guy on campus after words. Yeah, it sort of sucks for these neo-con college kids when someone who is a Republican icon like Gingrich steps up to the podium and pretty much tells them that they're all brainwashed and full of sh*t for thinking we're winning the war under Bush and the former Republican congress.
I wonder how hard it was for some of the neo-con kids there to roll around what to think of Gingrich in their noggins? Were many of them able to pull the "liberal" card out on Newt to dismiss him as easily as they do others that tell them they're full of it?
Oh, one other thing I noticed that's kind of off the subject of the war but that was in the article. When you read it, notice what it says about this student organization and why and when it was formed. Here, I'll quote it for you...
"Thursday's National Conservative Student Conference was sponsored by the Young American's Foundation, a Herndon, VA. based group founded in the 1960's as a political counterpoint to the left-leaning activists who coalesced around the civil rights movement"
How interesting. What a historically great "conservative" organization they must feel they are for having opposed black civil rights in the 60's. Now, is anyone confused about how most white conservatives view equality in this nation? When I listen to talk radio and hear them talk about how Republicans are for freedom and equal rights, I just about want to puke. I've had enough candid conversations with white conservatives and heard derogatory names for blacks, mexicans, gays, and anyone else they find as different than them to know where most white conservatives stand when it comes to their own brand of "equality". And if anyone has themselves fooled into thinking most white conservatives are just a fun, optimistic, all welcoming loving group, then I'm sorry you don't know reality!
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Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key
By BOB DEANS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/03/07
Washington — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.
A more effective approach, said Gingrich, would begin with a national energy strategy aimed at weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil and some of the regimes that petro-dollars support.
None of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we are winning this war," the ex-Georgian told a group of about 300 students attending a conference for collegiate conservatives.
Gingrich, who led the so-called Republican Revolution that won the GOP control of both houses of Congress in 1994 midterm elections, said more must be done to marshal national resources to combat Islamic militants at home and abroad and to prepare the country for future attack. He was unstinting in his criticism of his fellow Republicans, in the White House and on Capitol Hill.
"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. "I don't think you can look and say that was a great success."
Thursday's National Conservative Student Conference was sponsored by the Young America's Foundation, a Herndon, Va.-based group founded in the 1960s as a political counterpoint to the left-leaning activists who coalesced around the civil rights movement and opposition to the Vietnam War.
Gingrich retains strong support among conservatives and ranked fifth among possible Republican nominees behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, with the backing of 7 percent of those queried in a ABC News/Washington Post poll taken last week. The poll surveyed 403 Republicans and Republican-leaning adults nationwide and has a 5 percentage-point margin of error.
"I believe we need to find leaders who are prepared to tell the truth ... about the failures of the performance of Republicans ... failed bureaucracies ... about how dangerous the world is," he said when asked what kind of Republican he would back for president.
Gingrich has been promoting a weekly political newsletter he calls "Winning the Future." It's available free to those who leave their e-mail addresses at
www.winningthefuture.net, one of several Web sites he is connected with or operating. Gingrich began writing the newsletter in April 2006, and it now goes out to 311,000 readers each week, said Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler.
Political salon
At another Web site — www.americansolutions.com — Gingrich is running a virtual political salon, with video clips, organizational information and contacts revolving around his conservative vision for the country's future. It asks supporters to join in an Internet "Solutions Day" on Sept. 27, the anniversary of Gingrich's so-called Contract With America, a slate of conservative policies he led through Congress as speaker of the House a decade and a half ago.
"What I'm trying to start is a new dialogue that is evidence-based," Gingrich said Thursday. "It doesn't start from the right wing, it doesn't start from the left wing," he said, but is an effort to get politicians and voters to "look honestly at the evidence of what isn't working and tell us how to change it."
Gingrich was interrupted with applause once, when he called for an end to the biting partisanship critics say has polarized national politics and paralyzed the workings of government.
"We have got to get past this partisan baloney, where I'm not allowed to say anything good about Hillary Clinton because 'I'm not a loyal Republican,' and she's not allowed to say anything good about me, or she's not a 'loyal' Democrat. What a stupid way to run a country."
He reserved his most pointed criticism for the administration's handling of the global campaign against terrorist groups.
"We've been engaged in a phony war," said Gingrich. "The only people who have been taking this seriously are the combat military."
His remarks seemed to reflect, in part, the findings of a National Intelligence Estimate made public last month.
In the estimate, the U.S. intelligence community concluded that six years of U.S. efforts to degrade the al-Qaida terrorist group had left the organization constrained but still potent, having "protected or regenerated" the capability to attack the United States in ways that have left the country "in a heightened threat environment."
"We have to take this seriously," said Gingrich.
"We used to be a serious country. When we got attacked at Pearl Harbor, we took on Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany," he said, referring to World War II.
"We beat all three in less than four years. We're about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we're losing."
Successful approach
Gingrich said he would lay out in a Sept. 10 speech what a successful U.S. approach to this threat would have looked like over the past six years.
"First of all, we have to have a national energy strategy, which basically says to the Saudis, 'We're not going to rely on you,' " he said.
The United States imports about 14 million barrels of oil a day, making up two-thirds of its total consumption.
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Comments
Why don't they just abolish the Republican party?
Republicans discovered they can get votes by being against the war thanks to ron Paul. Look for this trend to continue as more republicans start sucking up to the anti war crowd.
Republicans probably will not come to the realization that they were exploited and they received no benefits from the Bush Admin. It is a hard pill for them to swallow, though.
At least the former Speaker of the House is being honest to people, who will hate him for his honesty.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
It's time for a change. A big one.
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Well, that is the truth.
Well done.
The extremely powerful elites, mostly corporations as they are considered a "person" with rights (and liabilities) and can donate to political campaigns, own and directly control both parties. At least the important policy matters such as ... the economy. Foreign policy. Obviously important economic and foreign policy matters are framed to support their interests.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
funny, even with these ideas liberals will still find way to be against this and hence for the war.
Thank goodness there are still some level headed people who call themselves Republican's. I guess that's why they call the new breed neo-cons. But it still makes me angry that a once great party has been turned into an authoritative legislation machine for the religious right.
We are not going to do anything by putting our nose in other peoples business other than piss people off. There is no reason for us to be in the middle east other than oil and to fulfill some Christian prophecy for the second coming.
Seriously, why don't we just start taking care of ourselves, live our lives as an example to the rest of the world of what TRUE freedom can accomplish for a society and it's people as a whole, and let that part of the world destroy itself? Then after they end up tearing themselves apart from the inside out, they can look to us on how to rebuild and live happy fulfilling lives with each other.
But we need to start by fixing our own danged problems before we go over to another country and tell them how to do something. We've got enough wrong here to where the money we're wasting nation building overseas could be spent on building up our own nation. Didn't we just have a bridge collapse? I mean, think about that. We're spending money to build Iraq, and a freakin' bridge collapsed in our own nation!!!!
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Odd...I never thought of Gingrinch to be a liberal or a liberal supporter. Unless the definition of a liberal or a liberal supporter is one who speaks out or is directly opposed to the Bush's Admin's ruinous policies.
Odd...I never thought of Gingrinch to be a liberal or a liberal supporter. Unless the definition of a liberal or a liberal supporter is one who speaks out or is directly opposed to the Bush's Admin's ruinous policies.
Actually, that's the common definition of a terrorist these days. Remember the old "with us or against us" comment? If we allow common sense and facts to cause us to reexamine our course in Iraq then they win. Changing one's mind on anything is commie liberal anti-american treason.
The most important part of reading is reading between the lines.
You're the only person in this thread that has hit the nail on the head.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
You're the only person in this thread that has hit the nail on the head.
Yes, the influence of Ron Paul is a good one. Even if he doesn't get the nomination, he's already got people talking. That's good enough for me. Breaking the status-quo is just fine!
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He's just slamming the other presidential candidates so he can have a chance at it.
I thought most college students are liberal. But I guess it depends if he was presenting at an Ivy League campus. Anyone could tell this war on terror is phony since if it wasn't we would be stationing troops in Northern Ireland, the Philipinnes, Panama, Nigeria, and Argentina in addition to the middle-east. Instead its what we have been primarily doing since WW2, policing the world and taking corrupt dictators out of power.