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If the Internet People Voted - Ron Paul Would WIN! Freedom Would Prevail.
truenorthbg
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Of course, at this time, the Republicans want to silence Ron Paul. It is a disturbing tactic. Imagine Thomas Jefferson trying to silence his rival Alexander Hamilton or vice versa? The American people to not rally around a nationality as the British rally around Britishness and the Arabs around the religion.
The American people rally around their Constitution. The spirit of equal opportunity for all and freedom for all.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
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Fun Fact: Andrea Mitchell in that video is Alan Greenspan's wife.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
You dont think the representatives didnt fight amongst eachother back in the day ? Just because they were the founding fathers doesnt mean they didnt sling mud at others to win elections.
But... they would not try to silence one or the other from public discourse. They corresponded with each other.
These "leaders" today will not even email each other. It is so pathetic what has happened. So pathetic.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
The majority of people in this country don't understand what true freedom is anymore. We've been tamed and castrated so that we'll behave and rely on the government.
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..but then we'd be crazy to vote for them..oh wait,we have no choice.lol,it's a funny situation we're in huh
I hate to break it to you. But the internet is not representative of the United States electorate.
And you might say. "Then they hate the constitution!!" The main (and pretty much only) reason I hate Ron Paul is because of his Iraq policy of "just get out." That alone pretty much kills him in regards to the Republican Nomination (and my vote). If he was for a more sane policy on Iraq (not necessarily a surge or any other policy, just no 'pack up and go home and hope nothing bad happens' strategy), I would vote for him.
Even Democrats don't have the pack up and go home strategy. Most of them have a 'lower our footprint' type deal where we keep a presence but force Iraqis to take vast majority of control of the entire country.
I personally LOVE a lot of his domestic stuff. But I won't vote for him with his Iraq plan, sorry.
As a well-informed outsider I can make a nice prediction.
Who ever the next president is... He/She(haha, yea, sure) will be disliked as much as Dubya and will suck as much too.
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Surge = more troops (you know, what we've been doing recently, that critics and others are beginning to say is working)
Quite a few bad things could happen if we just up and left. When we leave, there will be a massive power vacuum. Shiites in Iraq will need to "join" with a power in the region.... Iran obviously. Sunniis will get crapped on and turn to terrorism to kill Shiites. Shiites kill Sunnis in much greater numbers than has already been happening.
And of course a ground for terrorists to stay and train much like Afganistan was back in the day.. like it or not, AQ is there. Doesn't matter if they were there before we invaded or not, they are there NOW.
Whether it was wrong or not to get in IMO is beside the point. People can argue that later. AT THIS MOMENT, it is pretty screwed up, and we are partially to blame. Bush as messed up a lot in regards to Iraq, and he deserves some scorn for crap he did. But that doesn't change the fact that we are there, and we need to fix what we are partially to blame for.
Taking out ball and going home won't fix it IMO.
well yeah more troops would = more control over the situation,more time for us to set up the money trees.
ppl can argue if it was wrong to get in later?
i thought that's what they were arguing about,and voting on,now?
Looking at the sheer stupidity that can be found in a great deal of internet users that I have encountered (go read some comments on a youtube video) I can say beyond any doubt that I'm very glad that internet users are not the sole source of votes in this country.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
..but then we'd be crazy to vote for them..oh wait,we have no choice.lol,it's a funny situation we're in huh
Being the president doesn't really pay all that well, it has alot of perks, but they could get a better salary doing what Bill Clinton does now.
clinton gets cash for rambling about whatever cos he's an ex prez right?
the bush's have a vastly expanded portfolio
Most of America want's to "just get out". A pro-Iraq war Republican may get the nomination but will not be able to win the general election and you and I will be stuck with a big government socialist Democrat. Only Ron Paul can beat them in the general election and the debates. Iraq war is the biggest issue in America and Ron Paul is the voice of the majority. Unfortunately Bush did such a good job discrediting the Republican Party and candidates who come from Texas.
The Democratic candidates promote globalization, policing of the world, and nation building as well. They simply use different words and phrases. Everything is going to be the same with a Democrat in office, except they are going to make us even more dependent on government through taking more of our paycheck and making more programs.
Ron Paul will actually go after Osama Bin Laden wherever he may be through bounty hunters. It's cheaper and more efficient. We all know we won't find Osama in Iraq.
Terrorists can train in other places instead of Iraq. You realize many terrorists come from all over the Middle East to Iraq just to kill American soldiers?...places like Saudi Arabia among others...
Another bad thing about staying there is the massive MASSIVE debt we are creating by staying there....let's not forget our economy. We are getting more in debt to China...a place according to Bush's rhetoric that we ought to go in and "spread democracy".
We are actually HELPING AQ by being in Iraq, we are a great propaganda piece for AQ recruiters. AQ has regrouped to pre-9/11 strength. Anyways Al Qaeda is probably strong in Pakistan, but Bush wants to go into Iran...once again Bush misses. Pakistan is an ally so once again Bush will look away and focus on some other country.
Al Qaeda is in about 60 countries...should we go into them all?
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
there was no aq in iraq before we went. now there is.
just leaving might cause some problems. but not as many as just staying causes.
One thing just keeps bothering me: The possibility that Ron Paul is just a dummy candidate to siphon votes from one political party or another.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
The only things that staying in iraq does for us are
A) give more people the desire to fight against us (terrorism)
last i checked the number was around 80% of iraqis want us out, and 60%+ of us want out
Last I checked, 99% of the statistics on the internet are made up.
Oh, and please take out your little quote from Bush, since the accusation that he said it is an unsubstantiated one at best..
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
The majority of people in this country don't understand what true freedom is anymore. We've been tamed and castrated so that we'll behave and rely on the government.
Let's not forget Andrew Jackson "Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him inforce it" totally ignoring the supreme court and deporting the Cherokees anyway.and OP, Ron Paul is not being *silenced*, he's supported by a small group of people who happen to have pretty rabid supporters on the internet. If you want, keep feeling persecuted, it won't change anything.
AlexAmore, things will be worse with Democrats in control of the House, Senate, and White House.
One, they voted to give more power to Bush and his unindependent AG.
Two, they will not only spend more they will raise taxes. Republicans have decency not to raise taxes.
Three, illegal immigration will deteriorate further. You had two extremely powerful interest groups support illegal immigration. Remember when Ted Kennedy and Bush had an alliance? Big Business and Big Government LOVE illegal immigrants. The dems get the votes and the repubs get the cheap labor. Pursuit of greed and pursuit of power. Everyone wins but middle america.
Last, nothing will change. IRAQ. The reason is that the powerful interests that profit from Iraq are also financing the Democrats. HEALTH CARE. The powerful interests (drug companies, insurance companies, and the American Medical Association) are financing BOTH Democrats and Republicans. BIG GOVERNMENT. The government employee union, probably the MOST powerful special interests group in the USA, is a big democrat support. You can expect government workers to get more days off, more educational benefits, more health care benefits, and more perks paid for by YOU (reader) or your parents until you start working and paying taxes.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
truthnorthbg, maybe you didn't read my post completely? I'm on your side! Reread my post carefully.
I agree that Dems are bad.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
The government employees union gives more than any special interest group to the Democrats. You can expect them to have more health care benefits, more days off, more educational benefits, and more perks all paid for by the American taxpayer, always scratching their heads and wondering why their tuition is higher, their energy more expensive, their health care less accessible.
The American people are like a dumb cow that is being milked by Democrats and Republicans.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
The Republican Party has been taken over by neoconservatism. If you look into the roots of neoconservatism, then you see they actually sprang from liberalism in the 60s. That's why you are seeing so many similarities. That's why Dems and Repubs are merely different sides of the same coin.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American