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How is Everquest2 ranked on top?
Nsane30
Member Posts: 13
I play currently and have played all the games in the top 6 or 7 in this rating system. I am baffled at how EQ2 is at the top of this list. This game is pretty dead. They have 2 active servers..one pvp and one RP. They have their player base mindwashed into thinking that the servers are populated by describing server as "Heavy" when probably less than 500 people are logged in. For example... last night.. Saturday night.. on the most populated server they have.. during prime time... you know how many people were LFG....4....4 people. Getting a group in this game leveling up is like finding a hundred dollar bill on the ground.
The RP server is the only server that is probably active. The only active pvp server is Nagafen. Only prob here the majority of hte population is just level 20ish twinks. Lvl 30-60 is non existent. They added in PvP a while ago and it actually made more people quit b/c of how imbalanced the classes were.
Lets not forget their coders can't even code the game to work with dual core processors. They put a patch in that doesnt change their code, it actually makes you dualcore processor work at 50% capacity. How can u even consider this a quality game? And to that note, warp/speed exploiters are more rampant than ever... SoE doesnt do crap about them b/c they cant afford to ban any accts b/c the game is so dead already.
What makes me even more disgusted is how they lie about how many subscriptions EQ2 has.. what was their last count .. i forget.. but you know most of those accts are Station Pass acct and they included that in their eq2 client count. Makes me sick b/c they are trying to make it seem that their broken game is popular.. which it isnt.. its a ghost town. They need to merge down to three server total, but they are too embarrassed to admit they need to.
The only thing this game has is graphics and good RP lore. But then again your average system cant run the graphics hight and the game has a HUGE memory leak. This is compounded by the fact you cant run 30 seconds in any direction w/o haveing to zone. Any RP feel or ability to immerse yourself in this game is ruined by the fact you have to zone 10 times to get anywhere.
In a wrap this is a horribly coded zonefest of a game that is only hanging on b/c of Station Pass and they money they rake in by puttin gmore and more expansions out there when they havent even fixed their previous ones.
Sony is actually giving out free copies of this game when you buy another game of theirs. If that doesnt tell you the game is dead, nothing will. So, please somebody explain to me why this game is on the top of the list. Its a piece of crap MMO and the server populations show. And jsut to add.. jstu log in and look at the chat channels.. all it is is people complaining about the game....this rating system should just be done away with. It just takes away from the validity of this site.
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Well written but very bias, you couldn't find 1 thing that you liked about the game?
As far as your post.... I disagree but thanks for your opinion.
The same goes for almost every game and application that came out before dual core CPUs became mainstream. You can't just add in a couple of extra lines and have your application magically take advantage of multiple cores. Multithreading an application isn't easy to do.
I personally have always had friends online in eq2, and no probs running the game since i got my new ati card.
playing eq2 and two worlds
I just don't understand how you couldn't find something fun with Everquest 2, because almost every game has borrowed most of its principal elements, WoW took its quest system, and plenty of other games have copied off the basic formulas that made Everquest 1 (and 2) popular.
Your rant seems quite biased, as every MMO you play today is in thanks in a large part to the Everquest 1-2 development.
I have been playing EQ2 since launch and nothing you say about EQ2 is true in the slightest. You don't like the game and it does not play well on your system so it seems. Runs great on my system and the zoning takes about 3 seconds, faster then any mmo I have played. You do not zone ten times to go everywhere, untrue, Yup there is zoning and a lot in the starter cities but have you been to butcherblock mountian? Also severs are not empty I get groups all the time faster then I did in WoW. Mistmoore server is very active at any time of the day. You are simply a SOE hater and do not like EQ2 that is fine don't play. This is clear in this bias post . Every point you make is exaggerated.
Just because other people like EQ2 and their votes put it on the top of the list does not make this site invalid. So only if people aggree with you their opinions are valid? Your post simply comes across as, "since I do not like EQ2 no ones else should". You post as if somehow we who like EQ2 do not get it. Glad your here to point these things out since I see none of them. You ask why it is at top of the list. It is there because it is one of the best mmos out!
Because it still rocks?
I'm still playing it in the meantime while waiting on WAR, but I play it everyday, and I might still play it after WAR is released. I rated EQ2 up again because it still has spice left, quite much of it in my opinion. I've played about every MMO around right now, and EQ2 seems to hit it off with my style of MMORPG, where others have failed. Yes, EQ2 does still have problems, but nothing to really gripe about... atleast for me.
I'm actually glad it is keeping down other certain MMOs on the Top 7 list. I won't get into that though.
I agree with you about them lying about the population. Ten Ton hammer reported recently that EQ2's population is below 90k. Which makes sense as the website that took over for MMOchart had them below 200k 6 months ago and SWG below 50k.
SOE has been sending out free copies of EQ2 and all their expansions to anyone that cancels Vanguard. With SWG dying, Vanguard suffering and EQ2 slowly fading it makes sense that they will try to save one of their games. Unless GnH does well EQ2 is their only real hope in the near future. Maybe a year or two from now Vangaurd can become the game we hoped it would be and sometime after that Agency might possibly do well but for now EQ2 is their only marketable game and the evidence seems to be saying its a dying game despite all the improvements.
I hate to see games die but if any company derserves this fate it is SOE. A company that puts short term profits ahead of everything including making fun games certainly deserves to learn a lesson. But more importantly a company that has outright lied so many times to its customers does not deserve peoples business. People often talk about NGE but thats just the tip of the iceberg of the awful acts commited by SOE. SOE truly deserves its fate.
In regards to the score, generally games that people do not play get high scores as not many people care enough about them to vote. I am not sure if this if this case with EQ2. I would advocate its for two reasons. One many EQ2 players seem to have this victim mentaility where they hate WoW so much they seem to constantly defend their game so much that they start to convince themselves EQ2 is a misunderstood great game that is just not appreciated by the masses. Because they are so polarized they vote artifically high scores for their game. Also because EQ2 is not considered a major game or success no one really votes against it. Many games generate hate such as Vanguard from the ani-eqers and casual gamers or WoW because of its popularity and perception fo easyness. EQ2 is not considered a success or major game and has no real enemies that will bother voting against it. DAOC (which IMO is a greta game) is a good example because it has no enemies and is therefore able to get a high score with few people voting against it. Rather I would argue that a high score adds evidence to the theory that no one plays the game.
I agree. I think it's mostly just publisher shills and devs who stuff the votes anyway. Of course that doesn't stop 12 year olds from pointing to it whenever they're trying to defend EQ2.
On EQ2, of all the games competing against WoW it's the one with the most wasted potential. They've put a ton of money into it and it should have picked up alot of old EQ players, MMO newbies and WoW refugees. The graphics engine is technically good(apart from the memory leak) but the art direction has been questionable to say the least. The gameplay feel of the character classes is awful, there's no tactile feedback at all in executing attacks and spells. Playing a melee feels like playing a caster. I've tried EQ2 several times and never gotten the leveling bug from playing any of the classes at low level.
Besides all that, being a longtime SOE subscriber I always feel like I'm putting a quarter in a slot every time I do anything in their games. It's all about the money with them and if anything that's what drove off their hundreds of thousands of fans from the EQ days.
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Congratulations. We haven't had a post like this in almost two days.
I don't play on any of the servers you listed and there is always people LFG in the chat channels on the ones I play on.
As far as it running bad on dual core processors I have not noticed anything on my system, it seems to run great.
As far as the population going down to nothing I kind of doubt that seeing how I just started playing and I have noticed a lot of people doing the same.
Last note I love how people think that there opinion is some how in line with the masses and any reason that a site or a persons point of view is different makes that point of view or ratings system bunk.
Did it ever comes to your mind (talking to op) that your opinion might not be what the majority thinks ? The game is FAR from dead, telling that only 1-2 or servers are alive is complete non-sense. I doubt you really tried the game. If you did you would have seen tons of peoples, i know i did, i started playing the game about a month ago to see the new evil starting area and it was JAMMED PACK with peoples.
Coders that can work ?!?! What hell is wrong with that ? I have a dual core and EQ2 is running like a dream on my machine, it's certainly not the case with some other game in the top 7 list like LOTR, which hitch a lot.
You have the right to your opinions, if you don't like EQ2, fine, but don't come here bash this great game with UTTER NON-SENSE.
Because this game kicks ass in comparison with any other game currently released. It really it the top of the totem pole. Thats why.
I only recently started this game but even I can tell the OP's post is a bit of a stretch. First, let's touch the game is pretty dead theory. The problem with this train of thought is that if you eliminate WoW's population and just look at EQ compared to the other games it is not dead. No game has a ton of subscriptions at the moment. The only one getting up there is LOTOR since it is the only real new game out there that has some sort of value. Saying EQ is dead is a bit of a stretch. And you are also incorrect. The last few nights there have been three heavy populated servers in AB, Nag and Crushbone along with several medium populated servers. Another incorrect approach to your statement is this....Have you been on all the medium populated servers to verify their population? No, I very seriously doubt that. Someone else has already pointed out that most Looking For Group do not put the tag up. They simply call it out in the channels. This already points out your lack of research on topics you are trying to discuss but we shall continue.
I can't comment on the Nag server's population because I do not play there. See how that works? I have no true knowledge of the server so I don't approach that subject unlike you with your EQ census. In any case, the coders...you do realize when this game came out right? Dual core is a new system while the game is some years old now. If you are having problems running it then why are you still playing as your post stated you are? I run it with dual core and have absolutely no problems at all. Sounds more like you heard someone is having issues and you're trying to use it in your own post. So either you really don't know the truth behind any coding issues or you're sitting there playing a game that your computer is having issues with...which would be a bit of on the strange side especially given the post where you are belittling the game.
Subscriptions and how down right disgusting it is that they may have lied! Oh god nooooooo! Heh, first off I don't know how many subscriptions they have but straight up....all the companies fabricate on the number of their subscriptions. This is nothing new and really is such a mute argument. You don't know what kind of subscriptions are in a game till you play it. Period. Because from the outside you have several factors: 1. Is the company fabricating and 2. How many of these are bots/farmers. This was a mute argument you brought into the discussion.
I'm a rper and rp just fine with the zoning. Would I rather it didn't have it? Hell yes. Does it ruin my immersion? Only if I was ten years old with AD or something. Since I'm a grown man and have no issues with holding my attention no it doesn't make it hard for me to rp. Would be silly if it did. So to say the game is just hanging on because of the Station Pass is a stretch. I am a new player and know several others who just came over as well. If its just hanging on then why I am always coming across new players as I try new classes to see which I enjoy most? The population is no different than what you will see out there in other games not named WoW. In fact, EQ's population will most likely beat a lot of them since I tried a bunch of them before settling on EQ to keep me going till the new wave of games. And they are giving out free gaming time/copies of EQ to those who quit Vanguard or what not because....now hold onto something because this will blow your mind....oh my god marketing! Sheesh this is a real weak point you put here. it's called good marketing. If Vanguard is someone's cup of tea then why not reach out to them if you know they are a MMO player and you have a game out there? Only makes good business sense.
Oh and to the poster who tried to agree with the OP but obviously is a SOE hater stating things like 'SOE lies to the customers' 'SOE deserves their fate' and blah blah. I can care less about SOE as I have no stock in the company and they don't pay me so I rightly don't give a damn about them or any of these publishing companies. But you are ignoring the facts on a game simply based on your dislike of SOE. I believe there are plenty of 'I hate SOE waaaaahhhhh' stickied threads out there. Visit them, post on them, love them....Otherwise join a discussion with factual information instead of the usual whining I see on these boards about a publishing company.
Omg another "i hate this game, so should do you!" topic!
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EQ2 is a fine game, it has something to do after you max yer lvl besides raiding and has ways too expand yer char outside its basic skills, theres raiding if you wish, questing if you wish, crafting if you wish which expands too other things such as tinkering and stuff, so i see why eq2 is ranked high, it has a lot too offer for all types of players, I think wow will copy this format on there next expansion, i never really felt any heart in wow as i played that as well, i dont think many games hold a flame or a candle too what eq2 has too offer for a person looking too play an mmo for a long period of time, the only games i think that are comparable too funess lvl of eq2 are cov/coh and perhaps lotr.
playing eq2 and two worlds
Its a nice change from the wow bashing topics that have been infesting this site the last week.
Infact EQ2 brings very little new to the table. The only thing that I can say that made this game unique, is its NPC voices. Apart from that its content is pretty meagre.
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Agree fully with OP.
I reactivated my EQ2 account again this month and played just a few hours. I've tried hard to stay with this game for 2 years and it has improved but only minutely.
I have a dual core system (still not used fully by EQ2) and an 8800GTS graphics card and the performance (in town particularly) is laughable for an old game. The game was badly coded from the start in that it has a high CPU dependency so you will never get the advantage of an upgraded graphics card or of a dual core processor. This is just not acceptable when we are paying a monthly fee for an upgradeable game.
I could go on about night time light levels and unrealistic character movements etc but won't.
It's only at the top of the chart on this site because it's a biased, pointless and unrepresentative chart. WoW never even figures in it and DOAC does- how realistic can that be?
Infact EQ2 brings very little new to the table. The only thing that I can say that made this game unique, is its NPC voices. Apart from that its content is pretty meagre.
Heh, this is quite amusing... SoE Hater Hate.you sir have got too be kidding me, i will take yer post with a grain of salt because i think yer an soe hater and are blinded by the facts of reality from hatred and remorse, if you are some wack job disgruntled swg fan please post there, swg devs and eq2 devs are far apart on what they do on there jobs, just because eq2 is under the soe title doesnt mean it is ran in the same manner as swg, or vanguard, it is entirely its own identity, and unique unto itself apart it being fantasy!!
When your prepared to reply with more then just personal attacks, id be happy to debate with you.
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Personnel Attack?
He called you a SOE Hater.
Your sig says "SOE Hater & Proud"...
Ergo he is just calling you your self claimed title and therefore is not attacking you.
So he didn't reply with a personnel attack and therefore your not debating with him because you don't want too, so don't try and take the high ground.
I mean heck atleast the guy isn't pathetic enough to waste his time hanging about on the board of game developed by a Company he hates and adding nothing to conversation.
Or pathetic enough to declare he "hates" a gaming company because they broke his favourite toy and then act like being an immature toddler is something to be proud of.
They need to do server merges that is for sure. Otherwise the game isn't half bad. Not as good in some ways as LoTRO, but I do like EQII's crafting better. There are a couple of memory issues SOE needs to fix also but I would not call the game buggy. All in all it is probably the best game SOE has ever developed. it is just a little long in the tooth now and the server populations show it. For me at least it is the second best MMORPG available.
I miss DAoC
Good post. I had to read his a few times and I tried in vain to find the personal attacks.
If you hate a company and no matter what they do after the point were they ruined it for you it is going to be hard to be unbiased in your opinion of there new attempts to correct anything or any game.
Server merge? Not required at all... Where are you getting that idea anyways... LOL
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Server merge? Not required at all... Where are you getting that idea anyways... LOL
Well our guild still has a small population in the game. Also look at any of the non fanboy/shill posts in this thread and several other threads on this forum. 3 maybe 4 servers would be plenty for EQII these days.
I miss DAoC
Server merge? Not required at all... Where are you getting that idea anyways... LOL
Well our guild still has a small population in the game. Also look at any of the non fanboy/shill posts in this thread and several other threads on this forum. 3 maybe 4 servers would be plenty for EQII these days.
LMAO.... 3 or 4 haha. Good one man. And those post could be from anyone... even you.
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