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I've tried V.C. before, I would of continued bu the water rendering was just horrible. A lot of people are having fun with it and that is the bottom line.
I gained a lil altitude by pressing "s" like a a flight simulator. .
I just Hang glided and learned how to land with it, I also bought a parashoot lol , it is pretty awesome so far
Before I learned the landing bit I crashed on top of a hut
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I would recommend that you go to Engladhil (in the Realm of Light) and purchase a griffon. They cost about 20 silver, and are much more versatile and easier to use than a hang glider.
However, be very careful about where you land in relationship to MOBs with a griffon, and never teleport on one because you can never be sure exactly what is at the other end. They are too expensive to be careless with.
Dark players can go to Engladhil to purchase one as well, but under no circumstances should you hang around in the Light Realm and try to do some hunting. Just gate back as soon as your purchase is done.
I'm adventuring north now and must say, everything attacks in packs lol. I got attacked by like 12 mobs at one time , this games difficulty curve is like a brick wall .
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BWHAHAHAAA ask the sacred DNL support line. Its not here (by your own words)
1. When I said "managing" I meant player support and back-end bug fixing. Not GM events. That's just fluff, and it has nothing to do with running the game.
2. Snailgame is a Chinese scam factory. Also, nobody ever sold the game. Snailgame and NPCube entered into a "license and distribution agreement". That doesn't imply a transfer of ownership.
3. Other MMORPGs don't make worlds as large as this one, not because they can't, but because it's not a good idea to do so. For example, right now the playable size of the world is actually a disadvantage for this game. Also, when you say "not even Vanguard" it sounds like you're placing it on some sort of pedestal, as though it is in some way special among online games. As far as I can discern, it's not.
That's all interesting, taken as hype, but the reality of the game is nowhere near it.
We all have different perceptions of this game. I am positive towards the game. Unless your playing the game right now, it is hard to take any opinion from someone on the outside of the game world . I'm inside the game world reporting out to you . I see a huge ammount of opotential , but no one wants to give a INDEPENDENT developer the benefit of the doubt, no matter of the companies history, For the most part I've not seen to many bugs beside clunk character animation and the infrequent lag .
I do have one bug so far, the shader for the meduim and low setting are bug, and I'm trying to brainstorm and google why this is happening, it can be a combination of my video card and a corrupted DLL . The one thing I am not doing about this bug is screaming with my head cut off and spamming useless forums around the web about something that a little time and effort can fix.
The sky is not falling , so get over it
I do happen to have a neighbor who wasnt banned or kicked. I DO go over to his house and watch and try the game out whenever DNLs round of sugarcoated PR tries again. And yes, from EXPERIENCE the game is no better than it was 1 year ago. Not much better than it was in so-called Beta.The problem here is it has always had POTENTIAL. That was the almighty idol that was prayed to over 2 years ago. Nothing has changed. The POTENTIAL is still around, the game itself still rots.
The independent dev WAS given the benefit of the doubt for 7 YEARS!!! How long do you think they kept bumping the release? How long do you think hundreds of people gave the benefit and stuck around only to be kicked in the patootie and lied to? How long do you think the other websites gave Farlan a chance to clean up the release before they posted their own truthful reviews? Farlan/NPC WAS given the benefit of doubt, they just chose to blow it all to heck and do the sleazy path.
As far as your tech support problem, you see, thats the problem in and of itself. Not only is it a LONG TERM problem that has gone on for quite awhile now, Farlan LEAVES IT TO THE PLAYER TO FIND THE FIX FOR THEIR TECH PROBLEMS WITH THE GAME!
Placing this in the same world as LOTR (almost PERFECT release and still getting better!) and WOW as well as VG is like comparing the pyramids to a sand castle. DNL is just not in the same league and never will be. By the time any of their staff has the experience and knowledge to make this game happen, it will obsolete.
They hyped the game. They had their chance. They blew it. They wont ever get it back no matter how many people come to this site (which they complain does not support DNL) and say what a great game it is.
The Engladhil Dragon Port is a ways off from the town itself. (this is true of many of the Dragon Ports). There is a balloon at the Dragon port that takes you to the town itself, or you may travel by road to the west from the Dragon Port to the city, though I do not recommend it.
The mount vendor is within sight of the balloon when it lands, (on the east side of the town). There is a bank on the west side of the town, but there are lvl 11-ish aggro MOBs close by the bank, so perhaps carrying the silver on your person is a better idea. Dark players, especially, should spend as little time as necessary there.
The MOBs in and around the Dragon Port are non-aggro, but there ARE aggro MOBs close to the edges of Engladhil itself, so the balloon to Engladhil is by far the safest and most preferable way to get from the port to the town.
A dragon flies directly fron Azundell to Al Drifa, and then from Al Drifa to Engladhil. Start to finish a 15-20 min trip. Gate back to birthplace upon purchase. There is no PvP threat, and if you take the balloon, there is no MOB aggro threat either, so long as you stay inside the town and on it's eastern side where the mount seller is.
Good luck.
I forgot to add that you must be a minimum of FXP 15 to purchase a griffon, and that no saddle is necessary for a griffon like it is for a dodo. The griffon will be lvl 15 as well, so be very careful about landing within the aggro range of a lvl 50 MOB. They attack your mount first, and they are expensive to replace. Also put your mount away before gating
Well, I hate to raise your frustration level any higher than it already is, but often those mislabeled animals are in a different Barony entirely than the one where you recieved the quest.
The starting Barony quests have been completely redone since the original release of the game last summer, and are generally straight forward and logical in what you have to do and where you have to go.
The quests outside the starting area have not been reworked, (hopefully they will be eventually), and are in a far more 'chaotic' state. I have many that I started and have reached dead ends on. I do not spend a huge amount of time on them if they don't seem to be straight forward, and just go on about my business. In the course of adventuring and exploration, I have stumbled upon a MOB I need more than once, just by sheer serendipity. (often though they are at a level higher than I can handle on my own), I make a note on a pad so I won't forget, and am gradually building up a database for myself. If I ever complete it I will share it on the DnL boards.
I feel your pain.
I've been watching this thread for a while, and can say the DnL isn't the greatest game, but if you are enjoying yourself inside the game , it doesn't matter what trolling , flame baiting people have to say. It is all about fun. Enjoy yourself cause life is to short to really give 2 F's what negative people think.
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Hear! Hear!
Or to read trolling, flame-baiting posts such as yours too eh?
If people wouldn't be so selfish, they could of had the greatest game ever made for an mmorpg , but instead core developers left the company to start a tyrant of B.S. that lead to the and early crash of what again I say. the greatest mmorpg ever made.
There it is again. Sounds suspiciously like Vuuar's accusations against the fans === it was the fan's fault the game is in such horrible condition. (printed and published for all the world to see and he was slammed in every major message board and article).
now you are saying it was "selfish" people who destroyed the game? Do you honestly believe the core developers left Farlan simply so they could rant on various message boards 3 and 4 years later? R U SERIOUS???
Incompetence, arrogance, inexperience, deceitfulness, and flat out sleaziness did the game in lonnnggg before Farlan really started the hype. I do believe that Farlan is the place where "blame" should be met. Farlan should stand up and bow out gracefully as recommended even by various websites over a year ago. But Farlan doesnt see that. Like a spoiled little child, arrogant and extremely governed by EGO, Farlan refuses to accept the failure. Farlan refuses to see that allowing the game to continue, whether free or not, is just making it a bittersweet but hilarious joke.
You see, this site, mmorpg.com, is not the only message board. It is however a board where posters may say what they want - until you go over the line. The majority here dont even care about DNL. There are only a few posters left who have eaten this game for 3-4 years straight. To come on here and blast those regulars with erroneous information and flat out lies and flame baiting is Farlans way, I understand that, but you have to realize too, we have the "report button" also. If we have to, we will ask permission to allow a 2-3 year old thread to be woken up so you can see the posts, read the info, and stop your bashing of not only this site, this board, but its members too.
I"ve been reading a lot of articles and never once did I see "slammed." The articles are mostly "Farlan admits the game was rushed. "Farlan is giving 3 free months of game time during major patching."
Slammed by one review on game ranking www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/920912.asp
For the most part, almost every article I read online was Farlan taking complete responsibilty for the games poor performance, which on its release was right when people where getting PCI-X , I bet a ton of players of this game stil used pci or agp cards with 1 gig of ram and 1.4.-2.0 ghz processor, that won't run any game current now. I just logged in today and must say there has been improvements to the game and it could contend with 2008 titles. It is a massive world and you can't expect to see the changes all at once .
The only people I see "slamming the game around the world" are the people who failed it, the fans. Billing problems happen, but some people can get over it, from the forum and around the net it seemed out of the player base , 50 -100 people got billed multi times. On the internet they try make it sound like 10,000 or 1million people, computer errors happen, but it was a bad start for game , and everyone yelled scam, without trying to work through the difficulty they simply turned there backs on game.
I watch communities all over the internet, and I have to say the base test crowd for this game was the over all failure of the game. Pressuring for a release , when the testing proved to be going poorly, not figuring out the truth to the billing errors, taking an Ex-employs word over the key developers just out of spite, just because you are feeling scammed ? What where you guys thinking when you where in beta, how many /loc of bugs did you report, did you do end of the moth analysis and post them on ther forums ? Seriously , a mmo lives or dies by the beta team testing, Vanguard(Dieing) is a staple to that, as well as LotRO(Succeeding).
I'm saying this in all hoesty and fairness, there could be a few souls out there that tried to test the game but when you have a test team looking for blood, those few people won't even matter, it takes a collective effort by everyone , including the developers ability to communicate to the testers directly or through a good community cordinator, to get problems solved.
I will probably start playing now cause I just motivated myself to play this game .
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Dates , Links , Proof. ? Documentation ? , anything ? .... Please..
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People getting billed a year after they canceled is not a "billing error", it's a rip-off.
And unless you were a beta tester, then you have no idea of what you're talking about. If you were a beta tester, then you have a very faulty memory. Beta testers were ignored by Farlan, instead being lied to about all the content/fixes being implemented in one magic fix at release in order to make them feel like they were being listened to.
People coming here with no clue at all about what happened, yet trying to declare the fans as the deise of DnL, is the biggest joke ever.
Anyway, you're free to have your opinions (as comically unfounded as they may be).
On the whole, I'm pretty much tired of dealing with trolls, flamebaiters, and shills trying to ressurrect Farlan's decrepit reputation. Anyone who has enough sense to read through all the threads here on DnL have more than enough info to be warned away. Anyone who falls for the pro-Farlan spouters that come here at this point, deserve what they get. Can't save the world.
they had 7 years to produce, 3 years of bumping it, LONNNGGGG BEFORE ANY FAN PRESSURE to release this game.
Your assertations are baseless, ignorant and flat out nonsense.
Dont believe me eh? LOOK AT THIS MESSAGE BOARD! RESEARCH THIS ONE. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THREADS WITH THE EXACT EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING DOES NOT EXIST.
They are allllll still here sweetie, do your homework. Or again, shall we have permission to open up the dead threads for special review by you, and your cronies who are doing nothing but trolling this board to discredit _Pix_ and take the bad publicity that FARLAN BROUGHT ON THEMSELVES away from such a poor and butt-end of joke game?
Like I said, they are still here. Perhaps now is the time to have them reopened for your viewing pleasure?
Dates , Links , Proof. ? Documentation ? , anything ? .... Please..
Its allllll here in this board, on the web, at _Pix's_ site and ahem,cough, some are still up at DNL but I can betcha within 24 hours of this post, they wont be anymore.Do your own homework, dont spout your challenges and trolling here. This board has the evidence, has had the evidence and has shown the truth in everything that was said.
You got a problem with that? Take it up with the editor of the site, not the posters here.
News Flash, here at mmorpg.com, you need substantial facts that support your claims, or it is trolling. All you do is repeat the same crap over and over again without giving links or documentation to support your remark.
O noes Hundreds of hater on mmorpg.com , go figure . O wait I just got ripped off too , and they charged me $2000 in gummy berries that where mailed to the bottom of the sea in a box by Lockness. ( I posted that under 20 different name over the web and mad it into an epidemic like you can't imagine !)
Please give something substantial or please stop trolling this forum.
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People getting billed a year after they canceled is not a "billing error", it's a rip-off.
And unless you were a beta tester, then you have no idea of what you're talking about. If you were a beta tester, then you have a very faulty memory. Beta testers were ignored by Farlan, instead being lied to about all the content/fixes being implemented in one magic fix at release in order to make them feel like they were being listened to.
People coming here with no clue at all about what happened, yet trying to declare the fans as the deise of DnL, is the biggest joke ever.
Anyway, you're free to have your opinions (as comically unfounded as they may be).
On the whole, I'm pretty much tired of dealing with trolls, flamebaiters, and shills trying to ressurrect Farlan's decrepit reputation. Anyone who has enough sense to read through all the threads here on DnL have more than enough info to be warned away. Anyone who falls for the pro-Farlan spouters that come here at this point, deserve what they get. Can't save the world.
Its more than obvious this is all flame bait. And again, if they would honestly read the posts, they would SEE THE EVIDENCE of which they are demanding.And yes, I agree, unless they were beta testers themselves, they havent a CLUE! how Farlan treated the testers, ignored the testers, ignored the reports, requests, suggestions, fixes, etc, etc. It wasnt the beta testers, it wasnt the fans, it wasnt the devs with sense enought to leave when they did, ..... it was alllllllll Farlan. You just cant get that through your head now can you?
And yes , I agree it wasnt just a "billing error"....it was trying to keep pre-paid money for something that had not even been released or "delivered" yet --- no refunds whatsoever for prepayment of the game even before they released it! Yes, they tried and some had to threaten with a class action lawsuit ,and why? Cuz you just dont take peoples money and not deliver ANYTHING TO THEM! Farlan tried!!!! Then they said, okay we give you two weeks time to refund. ERRRGGHHH WRONG AGAIN!!! Aint gonna happen and guess what? It didnt!!! (remember too , this is allll the while Farlan was claiming SOG was not DNL and welp, you guessed it! SOG was and is DNL -- top of the message boards, see the post for SOG Instructions? It is referred to as the DNL manual -- thats just ONE handy dandy little piece of evidence. Lots more inside this message board for your reading pleasure!) Then!!!! After the 10% complete fiasco of SOG release and hundreds crying for their money back before DNL is released -- this is when SEVERAL beta testers came out of the woodwork and produced evidence of Farlans actions during beta--- Farlan tried to ignore the requests made to C&B for refunds. C&B was so overloaded by requests and well, knowing the global payment transaction laws would slam down , they issued refunds without Farlans consent and why? Because Farlan IGNORED THEM! Oh ohoh Then lets get into the people that did stay and paid but couldnt even play for MONTHS due to the ALI!!! Farlan again IGNORED THEM! Hundreds more! Farlan AGAIN IGNORED THEM!
A year later, hundreds were billed again and again and again!!! Some people were billed almost on the average of every 3 months or so. Some were billed 2x, 3x, and one poster, WITH PROOF! was billed 6x in one transaction and guess what? HE WAS IGNORED!
So billing mistake? Hardly. Rip-off? RIGHT ON!!!
Allllll of this is evidenced right here in this modest little message board. Take a gander and try your luck again.
News Flash, here at mmorpg.com, you need substantial facts that support your claims, or it is trolling. All you do is repeat the same crap over and over again without giving links or documentation to support your remark.
O noes Hundreds of hater on mmorpg.com , go figure . O wait I just got ripped off too , and they charged me $2000 in gummy berries that where mailed to the bottom of the sea in a box by Lockness. ( I posted that under 20 different name over the web and mad it into an epidemic like you can't imagine !)
Please give something substantial or please stop trolling this forum.
They are already here dude. Like I said, take a peek at all the old threads. SEVERAL evidenced by posts and their own links and photos and alll kinds of goodies. My evidence is already here. Do your own homework.
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Heres one example for you, just a taste of the myriad of posts and replies here on mmorpg.com, this is right along - ohhh page 20?30? of the threads here although you can start to see them around page 67 and they continue from there.
One of the things of which I have stated earlier is DNLs routine "this game is wonderful" trolling posts here on mmorpg.com. It happens I guess when they think all of us regulars are asleep or sumthin. But here is one post, (you are invited to find it yourself, it has a link embedded to the original log for your viewing pleasure) that pretty much adds up Vuuars or Farlans if you will total stance on his "loyal fans" and what he does to hype his game....
Originally posted by Poulpe
Ranulf is missing ( purposely ? ) one sentence :
The original logs :
http://img281.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vuuar08hb.jpg
what you can see is "Sinon j'ai besoin de votre énergie pour contrer l'attaque sur MMORPG.com".
Which can be translated as :
I need your energy to counter the attack on MMORPG.com
This helps tu put the other three sentences into contects.
Good god, if that is real that is seriously low...even for them...translates the lot of it to:
[19:55] <[No]Sirboss>
dragons which fly faster? 
lol
[19:55] <Vuuar> If no I need your energy to counter attack on MMORPG.com...
[19:55] <[No]Sirboss> oh yes?
[19:55] <[No]Syl> Pfff MMORPG.com...
[19:55] <[XZ]chedaa0taff> I cannnn't
[19:55] <[HA]Busar> got a link?
[19:55] <[No]Bledi-IG> what attack?
[19:55] <[No]Syl> and JoL....
[19:55] <[XZ]chedaa0taff> I don't have enough forum points on mmorpg
[19:55] <[No]Sirboss> and we have in exchange?
[19:55] <[No]Bledi-IG> sirboos sssh
[19:56] <[No]Bledi-IG> we are not here to do merchandise
[19:56] <[No]Syl> it's been a while since I visited this type of site!
[19:56] <Vuaar> I was there at the opening of the notation and less than an hour 15 people
came to 'break' us.
Then get off your butt and do it! I aint doing your homework for ya dude. Its alllll here. Just waiting for ya
And what does that prove ? Mmorpg.com is renowned in trolls and hater of mmos ? So really , Come in live chat , typing here is boring.
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OH ! and here, another couple pages down on the threads, around page 20 , give or take a few pages of the threads we all talk about:
This is the MODERATORS statements regarding the disclosure of the log being printed in the DNL forums: Its on page 2 of the DNL thread
http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8475&page=2&pp=20
want more? Take a look at the MMORPG.COM's DNL message board! Its easy, Its fun! Its FREE!
OH ! and here, another couple pages down on the threads, around page 20 , give or take a few pages of the threads we all talk about:
This is the MODERATORS statements regarding the disclosure of the log being printed in the DNL forums: Its on page 2 of the DNL thread
http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8475&page=2&pp=20
want more? Take a look at the MMORPG.COM's DNL message board! Its easy, Its fun! Its FREE!
Thats it ? That is the "sleazy " omg, you need to do your homework. That is kids play, childish none sense. You are running around ranting about kids play ????
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