Why would anyone wanna play eq2 over WoW?

l)ark_Knight · July 2004

in case you haven't guessed, this is a rebuttal to the extremely rude why would anyone wanna play WoW over eq2

though maybe i should post this in the eq2 forum....

is it the glossy graphics that make everything look like plastic?

is it the grind based leveling system that will leave you with hours and hours of mind killing boredom?

is it those annoying high pitched voices that constantly go all around you, that you can't turn off without turning off the rest of the sound?

is it the entirely unoriginal storyline of post apocolypse?

if not playing for those reasons, why would anyone be dumb enough to play eq2

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hell_fire_69 · July 2004

I would want to play WoW becuase i love MMORPGs and sijnce i am a Warcraft freak i love all Warcraft games. I dont know about EQ i am not so much of an EQ fan but i would want to try EQII.

I NEED WoW

Current game-City of Heroes

Future-World of Warcraft all the way

Crestguard · July 2004

Originally posted by l)ark_Knight
in case you haven't guessed, this is a rebuttal to the extremely rude why would anyone wanna play WoW over eq2

though maybe i should post this in the eq2 forum....

We don't need more junk there, Oracle fills the quota for all of you...

is it the glossy graphics that make everything look like plastic?

You mean the graphics that are far superior to the cartoony disney ones? The graphics models that were updated and the water effects that are second to none? Maybe you mean the free flowing clothing? Or the complex spell graphics? Is it the amazinly detailed character creation that allows for an infinite number of different models?

is it the grind based leveling system that will leave you with hours and hours of mind killing boredom?

With two seperate class trees to follow for each character and pleanty of end game? I'm thinking EQ2 is a whole lot less of a grind than WoW. But hey, building faction to be rewarded by your city and buying larger houses to furnish out complete isn't THAT great, right? It's not like you can turn loot or weapons into ornimants to hang on the wall... oh wait a sec...

is it those annoying high pitched voices that constantly go all around you, that you can't turn off without turning off the rest of the sound?

You mean the most amazing voice acting ever from a large array of actors and actresses in numerous accents and for over 120 hours of play?

is it the entirely unoriginal storyline of post apocolypse?

As opposed to WoW's nonexistant storyline which isn't based on the most successful MMORPG of 5 years?... Alright, maybe you got me there...

if not playing for those reasons, why would anyone be dumb enough to play eq2

The large number of races and then the amazing system of actually having your character grow into the type of class you want it to be.

The complex spell system where you can buy, find or write better versions?

Having all classes balanced in a closer archtype system as to prevent a better community in which no person will ever feel unwanted or unnecessary?

Yeah, you really have it better than us EQ2 goers, I guess we will suffer over the five year+ plan that is laid out and the level cap which can be raised up to 200 (and consindering it's at 50 for adventuer and artisan, thats technically 100 which can go to 400).

On second thought, I don't think I can find one single thing that WoW can do better than EQ2 other than sucking... or possibly blowing.

jubbincake · July 2004

Well put, but those elves look retarted. The graphics are TOO good, ye sthats right! Too good! some time speople want to know they are in a game im sorry mr. Whatever, not to be rude. But, alot of people dont have a "second" life in their video games. Some people like to just come back from work and play for like two or so hours a night and not be slayed for absolete within the first week of play. Does EQ offer quick missions for people that can spend 5000000043042040240240204 hours a month on the game? HUH! HUH! I didnt think so as far as I know, please correct me if im wrong but isnt blizzard going for those graphics, cartoon, comic, WARCRAFT graphics? hmmm.... let's see, EQ has us on class tree, but the lvl grind to it... man that would turn my skin white! !20hours of voice actors recorded because some lazy bastards are too ill-literate and stupid to read a paragraph..where the hell did you get off that WoW doesnt have a story line. There are tons of books published from the warcraft world and it has many sequels. I don't care if your EQ has 5 years on it, Warcraft has tons of lore...ok, ok EQ2 has a LARGE numbe rof races yes. But are they really unique, i have seen many of them in warhammer, LOTR and all that jazz. There are some WoW races, why hell, most that are in many of those...As far as im concerned i dont need to buy or write my own spell system, what a waist of time... ok, you have a lvl cap of 200, no one will reach it and sony WONT have content up tot hat, they dont even have nearly enough for 65 on EQ live right now...and, they are notorious for releasing TONS of expansions, how lame... WoW does suck alot and blow, how else would it breathe?

El'rahd · July 2004

well put, well put, could not of said it better myself. you don't know how much i have read that WoW has no lore due to it originating from a RTS series. what a load of bullsh*t, just cause WoW was built from WC, doesn't mean that WC's lore can't be transfered to a RPG, every bit of WoW is backed up by history, Teldrassil the new world tree the Night Elves built in an attmept to regain their immortality. the Troggs, a race that share the same origin as the Dwarves and Gnomes, bein gcreatd by the Titans but went wrong due to the Old Gods. Stormwind, human capital of Azeroth in W1,taken over by Orc, rebuilt and once again Human capital. so please ppl, no more crap about WoW having no lore.

Zafar · July 2004

-sigh- poor crestgaurd how little u know. I agree with the proceding two posts, WoWs storyline is intesly backed up with plenty of history wheras EQs will have an adequate ammount of information only for players which have hit all the higher level race quests that actually deal with the momentum of the EQ world. In order for players to know much of anything they would have had to play as all those races and all the classes to the higher levels in order to gain any speculative knoledge at all about the world. I admit that the Voice acting your gonna get is pretty sweet, but who ever whines about having to read something in a game does not deserve to be playing it. Bout ur graphics though, i admit they are pretty tweaky, (Sony said that one would need either of the twon newest graphic cards currently selling for over 400$, not an investment some will be willng to pay simply to meet the baseline for those nice graphics. You can say that WoW has cartoony graphics, like the RTSs that porceeded it but, I wonder, have u acctually looked at any screens? The graphics are simply reminicent of the cartoonish look of WC's past, not in anyway pushed on that. Anyways, EQ has its highpoints but to tear down WoW as something that is less than EQ is a little on the snobbish side. Though I doubt any will likely try, I think that anyone who has been playing EQ since is first began needs a change, EQ2 may be the answer but whos to say people who hated themselves for wasting thier time with EQ and EQ:OA for the PS2 won't find solace in playing WoW?

Zafar Blightwing

Corban · July 2004

True that Crestguard!!!!! I could not have put it any better.

I need WOW

syndakit · July 2004

Originally posted by jubbincake
Well put, but those elves look retarted. The graphics are TOO good, ye sthats right! Too good! some time speople want to know they are in a game im sorry mr. Whatever, not to be rude. But, alot of people dont have a "second" life in their video games

That's so funny you say that, cause I thought I was weird when that was what turned me off to EQ2. I mean, when I play a fantasy game, I want fantasy graphics. EQ2 graphcis would be great for the next counter strike. but thats just ME. Others will think different and love EQ2, more power to them.

LoStCaUz3 · July 2004

I am going to play WoW over eq2 because of the producer, the story, the history. When I first played Everquest, I created my character and I felt plain...lost. I ran around aimlessly for a long time before I found the right people to ask for help and even before then, I get yelled at for being "Teh nooblet" before found someone nice enough to help. The story was just not there when I played that game.

I can only dream but this is what I dream up when I think about WoW. I will create my character and I will know exactly where I am, who runs the place I am in, how they gained control, who built the place. Just so much more than I could when I entered the EQ world. The storyline isn't just randomly put together without any thought which is how I think eq did. About a week before the release date I think someone woke up about 2:00AM and said "Holy shit...we forgot a storyline." Then they created the stuff I had to mess with the whole time I played EQ. In WoW, there is a history and a reason everything happened. There is a future that you can unlock and the story actually flows, from what I have heard.

I am going to get beat up for some of the stuff I just said. Hah hah hah

A reason I decided not to play either game(until I fell in love with WoW) was because of the reason this thread was created. Only to make fun of the other game and declare them enemies in a way. How come we can't all ignore the people playing the other game? There are good points and bad points for each game. But I haven't seen a more mature person representing either game saying something along the lines of "I will not play this game because it isn't the game for me, however this game is for me."

I wish I could be that person but never mind.

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Slazer · July 2004

Why would people play EQ2? Because its going to be a great game. Sure, Im not going to play it, I dont really like the graphics, they made them too real and like the one kid said, look like plastic. Plus Im not a big fan of their class setup. I played FFXI where you could change your class at anytime and I messed around with classes too much, wasted a lot of time, got bored and quit. In EQ2 I can easily see this happening to someone. They got to the 2nd or 3rd tier of the class and realise that they would have liked the other branch better, so either they have to suck it up and keep playing that class, or start all over. Either way, EQ2 and WoW are both going to be great MMORPGs. WoW has Blizzard, and all Blizzard games have rocked the house, and EQ2 has the knowledge and know how from EQ to make a great MMORPG. In the end, its just to each his own.

When life hands you lemons, you clone those lemons and make super lemons!

Kaspian · July 2004

I'm going to copy a post I made on another forum over here because there seems to be more talk of graphics in this one:

I don't understand why some people are so against it looking cartoonish. These games are supposed to be fantasy, so what's wrong with it being cartoonish? It's not real (no matter how much some people want it to be ), so why does it have to look real? I actually find the cartoony graphics to give it some character that I don't remember having in EQ (you have to have a little more imagination to change the way you see the world, as opposed to just making look like ours with different physics, etc), and I applaud Blizzard for being able to change things up a little. Also, as a fan of all the Warcraft RTS games, that cartoony feel is the style that Warcraft has followed for years, and I would be a little upset if WoW weren't in that style (though that wouldn't stop me from playing it ). I guess it just comes down to the opinions of the player. Some people want their games to seem "real," and they're welcome to feel that way, but in my opinion, if you want real, stick to all the shooters out there, because as soon as you or the characters around you start casting spells, it's not real. Therefore, if the creators want it to look cartoony, I'm all for it, and will enjoy experiencing the world they've created.

I also definitely agree with Zafar about people needing something different. I've been playing EQ since it began, and frankly, I'm not even considering EQ2 as my next game. I'm way too casual of a gamer for EQ, and I need something different. Blizzard is a great company known for taking the time to create excellent games, and from what I've read, they appear to be trying to make the game appealing to the casual gamer as well. Also, and I know lots of people have already mentioned this, Warcraft has a vast amount of lore and history behind it. Not only can you read about it (and here's what I'm going to add to this topic), but we've been playing it. I think it's going to be awesome to get down into the world when I've been a part of it's history for years. Think about it in EQ. If you had actually been part of the giant-dragon conflicts and watched, say, Hsagra get killed, wouldn't you be a little more interested in doing the Velious quests? I certainly think so. Anyway, now I'm just rambling, and I think I made a few points in there .

zeroskater · July 2004

is it the glossy graphics that make everything look like plastic?
You mean the graphics that are far superior to the cartoony disney ones? The graphics models that were updated and the water effects that are second to none? Maybe you mean the free flowing clothing? Or the complex spell graphics? Is it the amazinly detailed character creation that allows for an infinite number of different models?

no it means that they look like some idiot has lamenated a plastic action figure .. they treid to make it look that bit to much real and bailed . EQ have messed up becuase they treid way too hard . no one want to look at the world of laminated life and get blinded by the atificial laminated sun shining oiff that laminated elfs head .

is it the grind based leveling system that will leave you with hours and hours of mind killing boredom?
With two seperate class trees to follow for each character and pleanty of end game? I'm thinking EQ2 is a whole lot less of a grind than WoW. But hey, building faction to be rewarded by your city and buying larger houses to furnish out complete isn't THAT great, right? It's not like you can turn loot or weapons into ornimants to hang on the wall... oh wait a sec...

all that that says to me is that they stolen something from second life . and anyway why would you want a house in an rpg .. what so your gonna go home and stare at that sword on your wall .. oh how exiting ...... its a idea they nicked from second life and it dosnt fit with an mmorpg.

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Longshot · July 2004

Will try to keep this quick.

I think it has been covered by others as well.

Graphics are a mainstay and what a lot of us look for in many games. Both games will bith have this covered in a variety of styles. Art is something that is a matter of tase and no matter how much research a games company makes it will never cater for the whole market.

What makes a game work is game play and interactivity with others in my nhumble opinion. Which ever game gets this right will work i think.

I have played EQ and like others i found it a hard slog to get a character of any standing. The other thing is i truly believe the EQ is for the determined gamer even if you are a casula gamer if you are determined you will get to the high levels eventually I dont think this will be the same of WOW and one thing that is becoming clear now is that people do change the online games they play. I am still playing Eve but i have bounced throught others (DAoC, Lineage 2 CoH etc) and they are making games to cover this area as lets not forget they can sell games and make more money. This could be where WOW falls.

NCsoft are making 8 - 10 online games that i know of they know the we can only realisticly play 1 or 2 so could this be bad marketing? i dont think so.

I think the decision will be what you prefer and there is no need to be unfair to either.

Well tried to keep it short good gaming everyone

Slanger · July 2004

I can't say I want to play EQ2 over WoW or visa versa. What I can say is why would you make up your mind before the game is even released? I'm an Everquest fan and a Warcraft fan, so I'm kind of stuck in the middle. That is why I will be giving both games a test spin. After I give both games a nice thorough play through, I will make up my mind if I would pick one over the other, or even none at all. Hey it could happen both games might bomb.

I'm pretty sure odd's are against it, but I'm ready for anything. I've learned over the years not to believe the hype. And if both games rock, well then I guess I will have to weigh them against the other MMO games I currently play, and see if I should give up on some of my long time favorites and move on to bigger and better things.

Currently Playing:
AC2, WW2Online, SWG

Retired:
Everquest, DAoC

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