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EQII vs. WoW Which will be the most newbie friendly?

Hi! I have played Asheron's Call and Horizons for two months then AC another. Im currently back to single games for now. While I love Asheron's Call I dont like playing it because I feel like its long passed its prime. I keep thinking the graphics are ugly, the community is only going to get smaller, my computer is begging me get something that will give it a workout, and all the hype behind EQ2 and WOWimage... have finally taking over me. image I'm also keeping an eye on Guild Wars and Saga of Ryzom.

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Anyway, I still consider myself a MMORPG newbie because I have yet gotten addicted to one yet. My question which game do you think will have the most features yet still be fun for someone who only wants to play for three-four hour periods about four days a week?

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  • Bobjones1303Bobjones1303 Member Posts: 680
    Eq2.  Everyone will be a newbie when it comes out. (same way in WoW though)  Eq2 will also have only 2 starting cities so you will be around alot of people that will help you when you are in need of it.  Also, from what i've seen the community of the everquest games are much more mature than the kiddies that will play WoW.  Of course you will find an incrediably rude person now and then, but i think you'll find an overall much more friendly community in Eq2 than in WoW.

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  • OracleP4OracleP4 Member Posts: 495
    WOW will definitely be the better of those two games, for newbs or whoever.  And you won't be limited to having to choose from only 2 crappy starting cities.  And most people who play EQ are going to play EQ2 as well, and for the most part they really aren't very friendly to anyone who isn't a diehard EQ fanboy.  WOW will definitely have the better community of the two games, better customer support, and better testing since WOW is doing an open beta and will be stable and polished upon release.  While EQ2's open beta is actually the first month of release, you know the one you're supposed to get for free when you buy the game. So in effect you get to pay to finish testing their game for them since they're too cheap to have an open beta.

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    Like: DAoC, WOW, GW, DnL
    Dislike: SoR, EQ, EQ2, SWG, KO, AC2, CoH
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  • BobiinBobiin Member Posts: 198
    EQ2. Two starting cities, and easy gameplay to learn. WoW sounds like it will be exactly like EQ1 only in a different setting and better graphics.

    --Nyture, Arc Convoker of fironia vie server (EQ) --Retired--

    Explorer 66%
    Socializer 60%
    Killer 53%
    Achiever 20%

    --Nyture, Arc Convoker of fironia vie server (EQ) --Retired--
    -- Nytur 39 Conjuror of Lucan D'lere (Quit due to low populations)
    -- Currently playing WoW while waiting for vanguard
    Explorer 66%
    Socializer 60%
    Killer 53%
    Achiever 20%

    PLEASE SOE MAKE A CLASSIC EQ SERVER. Shadow of luclin was a prick in EQs side. PoP Was a gun to the face.
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  • |MaguS||MaguS| Member Posts: 317

    EQ2 is VERY newbie friendly... trust me... No one can get confused on how to play when first entering the world, especially since you MUST go throuth the tutorial.

  • DjinDjin Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,263
    Reminds me of Asheron's Call 2.  "You MUST click here to open the box..."  So annoying.

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  • CrestguardCrestguard Member Posts: 112

    Yeah guys, WoW is going to be like... SO much better, didn't you see what Blizzard did with Ghost?  They totally drove it into the ground.  Ruined the graphics and the gameplay.

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    EQ2 is going to have a great tutorial for the ship and island of refuge, and even better, once you're done with it, your later characters can choose to skip the entire thing, so you won't have to deal with it again and again.  And I think there is no problem to having two starting cities, especially when they are beautifully done, rich and full and a whopping 17 zones which combined is larger than all of the old EQ cities put together.  WoW literally has nothing on EQ2.  The gameplay is just a dumbed down version of combat like diablo2.  Mindless fun for people who like to try and be skilless "uber l33ts"  Have fun with it Oracle, we'll enjoy EQ2 more without you.

  • El'rahdEl'rahd Member Posts: 24
    Crestguard, have you yourself tired WoW combat system? if you have then please give some points about how WoW combat system is skillless. if you havn't then please shut your mouth, and don't talk about something you havn't even experienced. i'm sick and tired off people both WoW fans and EQ2, so i'm not being biased here, who talk how the other suck with out even experiencing it first hand, sure visuals can be critisised without experiencing but internal components such as combat system and gameplay can't. and how the hell can you even think that WoW will suck just cause Blizz screwed up Ghost, the two are totally different game genres, one's a FPS, the other a MMORPG, just cause they screwed a FPS, doesn't mean that tthey'll screw a MMORPG. i myself am a Blizzard fan, and thus support WoW, but i don't go around f*king critisising EQ2 without even playing it do I? i look forward to both games, and then will i make a final judgment when they are both released.

  • smitty681smitty681 Member Posts: 1
    To stay on topic (and this is my opinion, by far not a fact) the blizzard games I have played are more noobie friendly. Because they are too tooo easy. But I have not played WoW so cant say if they have pulled away from what I consider to be kiddie games or not. Everquest for the most part is a bit harder on new players because there is more game content then most games. So although I think eq2 will be the better game, WoW will be more noobie friendly. (Just a guess, havnt played either, yet)

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  • n2soonersn2sooners Member UncommonPosts: 926

    A write up from someone who has played BOTH games.


    Each game has a tutorial system. World of Warcraft's tutorial begins once you have entered the game. You'll begin in a small area and move outside. There you will find a NPC with an exclamation point over his head. The NPC will give the character a delivery quest, and the character will learn to move and use the mouselook as he or she searches for the character he needs to speak to next. Upon finding the character (who has a question mark above his head), the quest will complete, and the character will issue the character a short kill X number of enemies quest. This is a combat orientation of sorts. Upon completion of this quest, a number of other NPCs will offer one of three types of quests; kill X number of mobs, kill X number of mobs and gather trophies, or a delivery type quest. All the quests are easy to complete. About level five is when you'll receive a quest which will take you out of the starter area and into a main city.

    EverQuest II takes the tutorial a step further. The character begins on a boat bound for the Isle of Refuge. While the character is on the boat, the tutorial will take the player through learning how to move the character and the camera, how to open your inventory window, how to initiate combat, and how to buy and sell items. The key difference between EQ2's tutorial and WoW's tutorial is that EQ2's will tell the player precisely what keys need to be pressed, and exactly how to do certain things. After the character completes the short tutorial, the player will do the same exact kinds of quests WoW offers in its first five level quest selections. EQ2 does offer an additional mini-boss encounter at the end of the Isle of Refuge.

    The tutorial edge goes to EverQuest II. While many experienced MMORPG players may see a tutorial as a burden, it is essential for those players that are new to the genre. A good first impression is extremely important in a game, and though both games give off great first impressions, the ease of use for the "noobie" in the EQ2 tutorial gives it the edge.


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  • sjonasjona Member Posts: 194

    i think WoW will be better because blizzard has just started with a mmorpg so they help much more

    and everquest2 is a just a 2 so its almost only the pros. that will play it
    thats why i think WoW will be better

  • pelucaspelucas Member Posts: 19

    I agree with both sjona and OracleP4,  WoW will be the most newbie friendly.

  • ChunkySoupChunkySoup Member Posts: 2

    n2sooners, that review came from the mod at an EQ2 forum. A little biased, no? When I started playing WoW, the interface was very intuative, and the beginning quests get you started very easily. It's hard to be confused at the beginning of the game. I can't say that WoW will be better though, because I haven't played EQ2.

  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043
    omg Sjona thats one of the most retarded arguments ive heard yet haha

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  • cerebrate3cerebrate3 Member Posts: 11
    They say in world of warcraft that it is very easy to understand the controlls. When I read peoples journals they say that they have no trouble learning them. There are are also areas made just for beginers to kill lower level mobs and do simple quests to get the hang of everything. As you get higer in level you can move on to higher level areas. I think World of warcraft is very newbie friendly. This is just my opinion.

  • LugnardLugnard Member Posts: 474

    WoW simply because not only is WoW targeting regular MMORPG players but also players who are new to the genre (ie: Battle.net players).

    With that being said, as the Blizzard devs said... WoW is a game easy to learn, very hard to master.

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  • n2soonersn2sooners Member UncommonPosts: 926


    Originally posted by ChunkySoup
    n2sooners, that review came from the mod at an EQ2 forum. A little biased, no? When I started playing WoW, the interface was very intuative, and the beginning quests get you started very easily. It's hard to be confused at the beginning of the game. I can't say that WoW will be better though, because I haven't played EQ2.

    Of course, there much less bias in those posting here who have only played one game or have played neither game. Unless you can dispute the facts, then I have to believe EQ2 will be more newbie friendly (maybe to the point of being annoying to experienced MMORPG players). Both games will be newbie friendly, but EQ2 takes it one step further.

    So, the correct answer to the question is EQ2 is the most newbie friendly, but newbs shouldn't have much problem playing either game.

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  • LugnardLugnard Member Posts: 474



    Originally posted by n2sooners

    So, the correct answer to the question is EQ2 is the most newbie friendly, but newbs shouldn't have much problem playing either game.



    No... there's no correct answer until we all are able to play both games and see for ourselves. At the moment, it is in your opinion that EQ2 will be better but so far everything is mere speculation.

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  • TrytoneTrytone Member Posts: 87

    Everyone, I hope you realize that the point of the thread was which game was more newbie friendly, not which game has more zones or which will be better. Honestly I cannot tell you, but what I do know is that EQ1's gameplay was extremely simple (I mean dirt simple) and anyone could pick it up. But WoW seem to be quite a simple game as well. The nice thing is that there is an open beta, which means you can get a feel for the game before you buy it, so you won't have to be a newbie at all. But if its anything like its predecessor EQ2 will probably be very very good for a newbie. As for which game is better, I'm in the dark just like everyone else, we just have to wait and see.

  • TrytoneTrytone Member Posts: 87


    Originally posted by ChunkySoup
    n2sooners, that review came from the mod at an EQ2 forum. A little biased, no? When I started playing WoW, the interface was very intuative, and the beginning quests get you started very easily. It's hard to be confused at the beginning of the game. I can't say that WoW will be better though, because I haven't played EQ2.

    I like this post, as no one knows which game will be better, not you EQ fans not you WoW fans/beta testers. And it even sticks to the origional topic of the newbie friendly environment!


  • asr84asr84 Member Posts: 28

    In Blizzard we trust. jk

    I've played Blizzard games since I was 7 years old. It can't get more simple. ::::09::

  • n2soonersn2sooners Member UncommonPosts: 926


    Originally posted by Lugnard
    Originally posted by n2sooners
    So, the correct answer to the question is EQ2 is the most newbie friendly, but newbs shouldn't have much problem playing either game.
    No... there's no correct answer until we all are able to play both games and see for ourselves. At the moment, it is in your opinion that EQ2 will be better but so far everything is mere speculation.

    No, if you read my first post you will see that it isn't my opinion, it is the opinion of someone who HAS played both games. It is a direct comparison of the two. I agree that until we have played both games that we won't know which we believe is easier. The reviewer who played both said that EQ2 was the most newbie friendly, but that both were newbie friendly games. Unless you can find someone who has played both and says otherwise, than that is the only real comparison we have to go by. As for myself, I don't care. I am not a newbie in this genre, and I don't think I would have any problems getting started with either game.

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  • MuraisMurais Member UncommonPosts: 1,118

    forget both of them, Guild Wars is going to be better because it's {FREE}!!!image

    ummm... yeh

  • MegaWolfMegaWolf Member Posts: 425
    I believe it will be EQ2. If you read about when MMORPG.COM Tours SOE he talks about starting his character... The tutorial seems to be very good and you come out of it as lvl 3 ready to start you new lifein the new world of Norrath. Yet, i dont know how WoW will start out im sure that they have come up with a way to make it user friendly.

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  • MeqaberMeqaber Member Posts: 7

    Well, it all depends on which games you've played before, that will lean your choice towards the other game.  If you played Eq for a year longer or short, in either case loved it, you will more then likely pick EQ2 unless you hate it, For somone that is a fan of blizzard, they will pick WoW, people side to the liking of the game not if it is actually noobie friendly unless they are more mature and choose the game that actually is.  On my opinion i think they will be relativly the same.  It's a new game and people will anticipate it differently, so really once you play both then post here and tell us what you think image

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  • LugnardLugnard Member Posts: 474



    Originally posted by n2sooners


    No, if you read my first post you will see that it isn't my opinion, it is the opinion of someone who HAS played both games. It is a direct comparison of the two. I agree that until we have played both games that we won't know which we believe is easier. The reviewer who played both said that EQ2 was the most newbie friendly, but that both were newbie friendly games. Unless you can find someone who has played both and says otherwise, than that is the only real comparison we have to go by. As for myself, I don't care. I am not a newbie in this genre, and I don't think I would have any problems getting started with either game.



    The person you are talking about is an extremely biased EQ2 vault staffer named Deathstryker. He trolls the WoW boards constantly claiming he has played both games (yet almost all of his WoW facts were entirely fabricated by him and therefore I doubt that he even plays WoW). EQ2 may very well be more newbie friendly but I wouldn't take what Deathstryker said with a grain of salt.

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