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Would you play (and pay) for a classic server?
homeskillet
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This would pretty much include pre-PoP (Kunark, Velious, Luclin). Many people say pre-Luclin was the classics but honestly, Luclin was one of my favorite expansions, probably right behind Kunark.
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I wouldn't. Been there, done that and all the old zones are just old now. New zones with the inspiration of older zones I might play.
Which kind of brings up the question -- would classic EQ qualities work in MMORPG's today? We all loved everything about classic EQ....but this was when the MMORPG genre was just being born.
EQ1 was a god of its time. Now though it is lacking many things. Graphic are far from good. Stuck in first person view since its 3rd person was never good indoors. Down time while medding is way way to high compared to what most players are use to now. Combat for some classes is made up of all of 2 buttons. Lastly though it is fun to relive eq1 now and then, who really wants to go back to something they played for years and sticking to a "classic" server will only see the same stuff period.
Would i pay for an eq1 "classic" server? No, i would not
I tried it with the progression servers, which turned into a hack-fest of raiding.
A progression server that was modified could work. Classic for a year. Kunark for a year. Velious for a year. Luclin for a year.
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I'm afraid you'll never recapture the magic. Those people, like me, who loved the old EQ don't really want to play it again. We want to play it for the first time again. And alas, that can never happen.
Thats very true Buzzzx. Being my first MMoRPG when it launched and how it just enthralled me for years has also made it hard for any other MMO to capture that same glory. I guess you only get the magic once
Actually, I do play on a classic server. In fact, I'm logged in right now. Frequently, I even play in the "classic" area (the old world). It's actually pretty easy. I just decide - "Yep! Today I'm not going to use any PoK features!" And WALLAH! I'm playing in a classic server.
Can't do that today, however. I just logged in and got snapped up for a group doing some mission I've never heard of - This is going to be VERY interesting! :-D
Oh, and just to share - only 3 of us in the same guild, the rest are PUG...
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I still don't buys SOE's line that they didn't anticipate the raider guilds coming to the combine server. For three years old timers like me made similar post like this and thus the combine server was born. All that hard work had paid off and SOE's subscription base was the highest in many years, but within three short weeks the raiders were already plowing through content to open up expansions.
The combine had the greatest potential, but sadly it was quickly ruined. I believe a game designer can make another game that has similar depth, substance and nuances as EQ, but its going to take a very creative team to pull it off.
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Most of us want another original game, not a EQ1 clone with cartoony graphics and ezmode quest grinds.
I would not.
But still, i play in old world/dungeon crawl every sunday with some close friends. we call it our 'Sunday classic'
Yes! I like how they are considering a modified server.
I will be trying to watch the development of this closely.
If they went as far as "Pre-POP" I would come back, I enjoyed EQ untill 'raids' became the way to go. More content and less raiding was needed.
Dont get me wrong Epic raids were fun, and for the most part well led. But when planes came about it was raid raid raid raid. No more content, no more changing the game through player actions, no more of that family feeling the guilds used to have.
EQ needed to be revamped, expanded, and a good dev team. What they got was trash.
No. The true classic is archaic by today's standard. I truly doubt anyone would play for longer than 2 months. As this genre has progressed, so too has our standards. I miss classic, also, but I would not want to relive the days of no soloing, 5 minute downtimes, no variety in loot.
The thing we miss, imo, is how everyone used to group. We used to be interested in the journey to max level, rather than the journey after max level. We only miss classic, because it was a social journey. We miss the social journey. We certainly don't miss 5 minute dowtimes, boat ride, 30 minute runs between cities, god awful corpse runs, hours upon hours of lfg, and the like.
I would not play, and I doubt many would last when there are so many less painful options.
If they totally reenvisioned Pre-PoP (meaning loot is redone, mobs power vs. player, raiding is non-existant) I think that would be the best game on the market, bar none.
That, or a longer-timed progression server, are the only ways SOE will ever get my money again for that game. I would go back for a classic server in a heartbeat. When the progression servers first opened up everyone had a blast and tons of people came back to play, SOE should take note of that.
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First, to the OP, yes, I would pay to play on a classic server. And according to the 200ish persons who have taken my poll since last month, 94% of them would play on a new progression server.
Brostyn, yes it's true EQ is a social game. And it's not coincidence. Group content, downtime between fights, CR, boat rides, auto-attack, etc., all foster socializing. Games that lack this, not surprisingly, also lack a cohesive community. I would not call EQ mechanics painful by any means. Although it certainly isn't as carebear as some other games.
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If you define carebear as more fun, well, you're wrong about your definition of carebear. You may very well have the time to play on a true classic server. I'm willing to bet those of us who take our time seriously would not waste a second glance at this. The genre has moved forward in a good way with regards to downtime.
The reason why so many games lack community is the ability to solo through all the levels. Not the absence of downtime.
Yeah, i would. I would not if it involved playing Luclin though. While many say it was all fun and dandy it ruined part of the game for me. Gone were the glorious days of EC trading and here were the days of an auction house. While its hard to argue that an AH is necessarily bad for a game, i still will say that it sucked a HUGE social aspect out of the game. Not only to mention the fact that transport became super easy and getting KEI, etc was a joke.
I take my time very seriously and disagree that the genre has moved forward. Look at the games today. I've gone back to playing DAoC because none of these games that are out now are worth anything, and trust me I've played them all. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Original EQ wasn't broke and everyone loved it. Best community, best world, best classes, best towns, best story, and in my opinion nothing compares to it.
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Down time while medding is way way to high compared to what most players are use to now. = They added a new medding system, 45 seconds and you are Full mana.
Combat for some classes is made up of all of 2 buttons. = If you know what class.. please tell me.. make my day 10x easier.
So first off, if your gonna down EQ play it recently ... >.>
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I would definitely play a classic EQ. The game was a pure and simple adventure that required interdependence from players who learned and played their role for the good of the party. It was definitely one of the best graphical interpretations of pen and paper table top gaming so many of us started out with. I have never enjoyed an MMO as much save when SWG was fresh and new.
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Well, as I remember it you couldn't group without a healer and mana regen class. To me, that alone is one major flaw. A lot of classes were flat overpowered (cleric, enchanter, necro), and some were woefully underpowered (paladin, ranger, SK). Yet, another flaw, and funny how the underpowered classes actually suffered an XP penalty.I take my time very seriously and disagree that the genre has moved forward. Look at the games today. I've gone back to playing DAoC because none of these games that are out now are worth anything, and trust me I've played them all. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Original EQ wasn't broke and everyone loved it. Best community, best world, best classes, best towns, best story, and in my opinion nothing compares to it.
If this ever comes to pass I hope you keep us updated after you've played that server for 2 months. Although, playing the archaic, and quit imbalanced, DAoC certainly does test ones patience.
Shortly after it opened I made a couple toons on the Combine, dividing my time between those and my mains on Povar. Once PoP was unlocked, I said screw it and went back to my mains full time. Two days ago I finally said screw it and left the game. The online card game was the last straw for me. Seriously, WTF...
The idea of a classic server (original + Kunark + Velious) is intriguing, but the only way I'll play is if it's free. If that means ingame ads, fine.
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If a classic server was created that was as similar as possible in everques to EQ in 2000 I would litterally jump for joy with happieness and run down the screen naked screaming YES YES YES I AM SO HAPPY. Does that answer your question? If EQ classic came out my life would be complete and I'd never be sad.... unless I died and lost my level :-p.