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To open your eyes. The false ideal "lack of solo content"
wrongfeifong
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I am not sure if anyone ever notice.
From one of the post on this forum, someone talked about the lack of "solo content" as if it because the game doesn't give players easy way out. Such as crafting level require is too high to even make level 1 armor for newbie, which make newbie hard to find proper armors (as they don't look for NPC).
I want to clear up one true fact about the game that many might Missed or i might be incorrect on my own.
Do anyone even know where all the FFXI information come from? Beside going into those popular website, the game itself never provide proper information.
For example, in crafting, how do you know how to make Poison potion ? without looking at the website? Checking the npc its never provided the detail of material required. Also information such as Crafting moonphase, directions and days effect was never mention within the game. All these information are found ONLY in website.
ANother example, sometime quests does not specific where to get specific items. Such as Bluemage flag quest, those hints does not directly provide players a direct idea where the items reside. Also quests some quest never mention where you get items that require to complete.
While the game never have a clear Tutorial to begin with about the game such as the important of Signet and conquest point unless you speak with one of the GUARD. How should player know who to speak with and who speak garbage?
These facts lead to the issue that players found "Lack of solo content" Infact, most of the quests in this game are all soloable (beside teamwork and those doors) while crafting is all soloable as well. While soloing is harsh it is possible for player to SOLO all the way to 30 but most player would never choose to because party is safer and the walk from homepoint is longer.
As an old player, i started out this game second time, i achieved 67 corsair within almost 2 and half month while most quests/money are all from solo.
I soloed the following:
All teleport scroll quests, warp II, aspir, drain, ....BLM scroll quests (this include sleepga II, of course not soloing agna:P).
All flag quests are soloed "include the ever party require ninja, samurai" (except drg.)
Missions 1-1 to 4-1 (except 2-3 which i trio'ed it with a pup+blm) (gotten rank 5 all by myself @ level 30 , got help killing the key drop but i walked up MYSELF)
TOAU mission well up to The cutter is pretty soloable
CORsair AF (beside hat is all soloable)
Most quests (as i love do some quests in all major city) fame MAX all 3+ outland
Solo craft...well its solo anyway.
All Outpost warp (soloed) and ALL runic portal (soloed)
Conclusion: Talking about solo content? there is too many, the problem most players face is whether they could SOLO or not. Most player found losing experience of getting lost is a problem, hence they choose NOT to solo. But as you could get information, its all soloable.
P.S if you say that not all content are soloable, tell me ...in WoW, did you EVER see people solo ELITE quests (some are soloable but most aren't) or did you EVER see someone solo instances like UBRS, strats or even MC?
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The OP really reminds me really a lot of those high-strung elitist players that really should get a life. Because usually those spoil the game whether in FF or WoW. Sorry sir but the same attitude have the 70 level people at WoW so you are no better and with no upper moral high ground whatsoever.
As many of the most old players of FF you assume too much and thinking very little since your brain is stuck.
"Lack of solo content" does not mean the easy way out in any game.
Since you seem to lack some knowledge if you ask at the receptive guilds they give you recipes and what materials you need for them. So no biggie.
The hints for blue mages are so idiotic that anyone that have played enough to reach Whitegate to get the quest would knew without thinking overly, the only tough will be to find the specific spot for each.
Crafting is soloable eh? So can someone be a dedicated crafter without having adventuring levels? Crafting is highly connected to your job level and as such nope it's not "soloable" you need a high level job for the most expensive materials since you have to get gil somehow.
And you achieved Corsair also in 2 and a half months?
I don't know the prices on your servers but when bullets cost something 70k+, I think you are neglecting to mention how you paid for 45 levels ammo?
Don't make me do the math because you'll just say rubbish since you will just prove you NEED a high level job to keep the gil flowing steadily.
Some scrolls are "soloable" only you fail to mention that the only thing you need to do is give certain amount of items to specific NPC"s to raise the fame. Too bad you almost made it something braggable.
And let me guess you went "solo" with a high level job to get your corsair AF's?
Seriously dude get a clue, either you blatanly lie to make your self seem something of an "elite" or you just exaggerating.
Half of the things you mentioned need the upper high jobs and only a few of those you mentioned are actually soloable by any low to mid level job.
Really do your self a favor and don't be so self deluded in your importance and what the game actually has good.
Because as I said in the beggining you confuse solo content with easy road or something. But I guess when you have a job at high levels allready some things are a breeze aren't they? Why don't you go solo the AF of the other classes also?
Oh yeah I forgot, they actually need a high level player to farm the coffer key don't they?
PS. Solo content doesn't mean ONLY solo content. I am repeating that a lot because I pretty sure you'll just rant about the evil WoW players that spoil the purity that is FF
PS2. And since my comments seems to be misinterpreted. I really like FF and especially the group content because it's fun and exciting. But I am not blind to the faults of the game I like. And unlike you I am a new player that actually started from scratch and continues to rise steadily to 75 doing most of the things the class I play allows. And because I started on a fresh perspective I am sorry I think you are just the kind of player that really could fit mighty well at WoW. You can brag there how you know the game so good also doing Onyxia and MC runs
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
I am not a leveller in any of the MMO's I have played or beta'd. I enjoy FFXI, but to say that it is soloable is a stretch. ANYTHING is soloable, really, but even me with my almost limitless patience for a slow level got sooo tired of FFXI.
It is a wondeful for roleplay, for crafting and other things, but for going out and trying to gain a level....ugh! And when I FINALLY found a group they would spend half the time looking for the perfect setup or for telling me how to play. No one seemed to have FUN, they all seemed to just be looking for the perfect oppurtunity.
It is a great game, for sure. But be ready for a massive amount of playing to really achieve high levels.
Luckily I don't go after levels. But DAMN is it taking forever for me to get to level 20 so I can raise that chocobo!
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Let me clarify, i do not mean soloing content is for people who choose to play easy, i mean that people BELIEVE soloing making the game easier while they would give up when there is no soloing content.
I also talking about how people think many quests are "party require" when they can be done solo.
Also here is some facts:
1. This is a new character and new account, i started with WHM 1-30, then rng 1-38 and COR 1-68. Nothing else. And just for the record, sometime i get parties with people that come with PLer and i use them effectively (as puller)
2. I always start my own party hence i get a level every time i log on for 3-4 hour at least. I never wait for party or does nothing.
3. CORSAIR is a pretty cheap class if you know how to earn your money and how to spend it in beginning, (the cost only add up after 50+), because this is my second play through, i know what party want. I DID NOT use bullets until 40 (as i ONLY built MM on ranger) . (not even have a gun) and it only took me 10 stacks of bullets from 40-50. Of course after 50 its very differences. Also, every party is made for effective, i never stood for slow experience because i DO know the game pretty well.
4. Corsair AF is crafted
5. I did soloed all my quests, because they are easy ONCE you check the area (for aggro) and you have WHM @ 25+
6. I never know where i even get recipes because i talked to every NPC (beside the option "what is synthese image") i don't think i ever see NPC even tell me the recipe before.
All i want is to say " let's not use the excuse, lack of solo content" Because the game is easy as long you do researches, and people can't play this game because the game itself doesn't provide "every bits of information" and they blame "lack of solo content".
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I see your point, but with a game like FFXI you have to admit that it is not for everyone. Not that that is a bad thing!
When I met players that were max level I was very impressed at thier tanacity, but knew I would never be there. Since I work and take care of three animals and have a wife, I can't log in for that long.
Oh well, not my game I guess. Good luck though!
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Soloing to 30 isnt exactly soloing. Yes you can do it if you really wanted to, but why? It's pretty much a waste of time after lvl 10 or 20 (forgot which one). Soloing to lvl 30, also, isnt the same as max lvl. Also most of those quests don't really count for anything. So what you soloed the quests to get scrolls and shit... for what? To sell them on the AH? If not it's because you're a WHM or a BLM (or whatever). You didn't get any exp from that at all. I don't know if it's true anymore, but the only class I know of that can solo, is Beastmaster. Also, I remember that you don't get as much exp since you have a pet with you (could be wrong, its been years). I'm definitely not saying that FFXI is a bad game, it was fun. I'm saying that it's not solo friendly, and to make claims that it is, is wrong.
Edit: I misunderstood you're post (i think). You're right. It's stupid to blame the game for "lack of solo content" if your reason for hating is becuase you have no clue. I remember allakhazam was a good place to get info when I played. I also bought that FFXI guide book, which had all the info you needed (at the time). If you're not willing to do the research then dont complain. Even games like WoW, where NPCs give u a lot of info, have guides all over the net.
Let me clarify, i do not mean soloing content is for people who choose to play easy, i mean that people BELIEVE soloing making the game easier while they would give up when there is no soloing content.
I also talking about how people think many quests are "party require" when they can be done solo.
Also here is some facts:
1. This is a new character and new account, i started with WHM 1-30, then rng 1-38 and COR 1-68. Nothing else. And just for the record, sometime i get parties with people that come with PLer and i use them effectively (as puller)
2. I always start my own party hence i get a level every time i log on for 3-4 hour at least. I never wait for party or does nothing.
3. CORSAIR is a pretty cheap class if you know how to earn your money and how to spend it in beginning, (the cost only add up after 50+), because this is my second play through, i know what party want. I DID NOT use bullets until 40 (as i ONLY built MM on ranger) . (not even have a gun) and it only took me 10 stacks of bullets from 40-50. Of course after 50 its very differences. Also, every party is made for effective, i never stood for slow experience because i DO know the game pretty well.
4. Corsair AF is crafted
5. I did soloed all my quests, because they are easy ONCE you check the area (for aggro) and you have WHM @ 25+
6. I never know where i even get recipes because i talked to every NPC (beside the option "what is synthese image") i don't think i ever see NPC even tell me the recipe before.
All i want is to say " let's not use the excuse, lack of solo content" Because the game is easy as long you do researches, and people can't play this game because the game itself doesn't provide "every bits of information" and they blame "lack of solo content".
Under that light yes it's true and I agree. I think I misinterpreted your previous post,which I am sorry, and it gave me the impression of a very common attitude I see a lot in FF which I think really discourages new players from enjoying the game. And yes people should do some searching for some things and not blame on one factor or another.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
"lack of solo content" means most jobs can not reasonably gain experience solo.
most jobs in FFXI can not reasonably gain XP in groups of 2 or 3. the difference between XPing solo and XPing in a group is so tremendous people would rather seek PT for 5+ hours rather than solo for those same 5 hours.
everything you listed is greatly dependent on your main job level and nearly everything you listed has an exception.
and this is an MMO, if the NPCs don't tell you something ask another player. all the information on popular websites were created by other players, if you don't want to check the websites, ask people, that's why you play an MMO with other people.