It seems to me like more people are attracted to Fantsy mmo's, as opposed to Sci-Fi. This isn't just in 3D games like EQ, WoW, and the like, but also in Browser games. Do you think this is because of the ACTUAL game itself? As in the quality or company that developed it? Is it the appeal of using certain armor/weapons? Or is the setting, monsters, and overall setting? My personal preference is in Fantasy because I like the armor and weapons better. What do you think? Don't forget to vote in the poll!
Might want to check the poll in my signature too. Add High fantasy and Sword & Sorcery together for the total "fantasy" part.
Why do people prefer fantasy? It's easier to relate to, in my opinion. Myths, legends and folklore has always been around giving fantasy a more familiar feel than sci-fi. A lot of elements, like weapons and armour, castles and houses, are also more hands-on "real" than some thought-up sci-fi stuff. You can see this in the literary genres too, including pen & paper RPGs.
I'd love a good sci-fi MMO but there just aren't any. Too many people get stuck in this mindset that "sci-fi = boring space crap" (looking at you, EVE). I can think of plenty of "sci-fi" settings that don't use space or space travel whatsoever. Sci-fi also doesn't have to be a Bladerunner-esque "dark future" setting or a post-apocalyptic setting
ahem mind telling me exactly how long you played eve online? Let me guess, the 14 day free trial? Please. Dont judge a game and call it 'boring space crap' unless youve given it a good try. Yes at first Eve is 'boring space crap' and it takes a little bit to get used to, but once you begin your pvp experience and join a corp, etc. the game gets very exciting. Please, play the game a good amount of time next time before you decide to trash it.
I wondered if that comment would cause any EVE fanboys to jump out and disregard the overall point of my post...
Sorry, 14 days, 2 full weeks, is plenty of time to make an impression. You even admit yourself it's "boring space crap" in the beginning. You don't get a second chance at a first impression. Yes, EVE has tons of depth but there's too much boredom in all that depth. You're into it, I'm not. It's ok. Really.
I cast my vote for "I don't care as long as the game is well polished and fun to play." Both genres offer virtual experiences that are far removed from real life, which is what I look for in a game.
As to why fantasy might be more popular, I'd agree with the others who explained it as a matter of familiarity. Kids have been raised for ages on bedtime stories of knights and dragons, wizards and witches, ghosts and goblins. SF, in contrast, is a relatively young genre and I doubt many of us got bedtime stories about cosmic strings, nanotech machinery, DNA tailoring, and so on. So fantasy worlds find a larger audience already familiar with the concepts.
On the other hand, some of the fantasy dominance in MMO games might just be an historical accident. If D&D hadn't set RPGs on the fantasy path years ago, if SWG hadn't had its missteps, and if WoW hadn't had its runaway success, then the MMO market might look quite different today. If you look at other media like books, movies, and television, you see that fantasy doesn't have that huge lead over SF.
Why? Fantasy development has a lot of things that are given to you......almost standards. Races, weapons, classes....etc. A Sci-Fi requires alot more thought to develop I think, more imagination. We all have a basic idea of what an elf or ork looks like......a sword can only be changed so much ya know.....it's still a sword. Sci-Fi....it's up in the air. Thats the reason I find Sci-Fi more enjoyable I think.
Both Science Fiction and Fantasy have there place.
But personally I prefer Science Fiction.
I don't care for for fantasy for the most illogical reasons.
Most of the D&D players I have know are rather odd to be around or snobs. Granted thats only 30 to 40 people, but they all left a rather strange impression.
On the other hand the Sci-Fi geek are kind of crazy also ,and I'm tired of seeing fat Jedi's at conventions. I mean come on people. I like Star Wars, Dune, Doctor Who and comic books as much as the next guy, but I still manage to get exercise.
But this is a post about MMO theme preference, not the strange and bizarre worlds of Geek and fandom.
There should be more Sci-Fi MMO's out there. Not that I would play them all. I just think there should be more choices out there in the gaming world. But there won't be.
And why is that ?
Because the Sci-Fi world has not had a big movie like fantasy had in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.
Once Lord of the Rings came out. Every money hungry CEO realized he could make a buck off of fantasy.
And that way in my own opinion is why we have a overabundance of fantasy MMO's
I'd love a good sci-fi MMO but there just aren't any. Too many people get stuck in this mindset that "sci-fi = boring space crap" (looking at you, EVE). I can think of plenty of "sci-fi" settings that don't use space or space travel whatsoever. Sci-fi also doesn't have to be a Bladerunner-esque "dark future" setting or a post-apocalyptic setting
ahem mind telling me exactly how long you played eve online? Let me guess, the 14 day free trial? Please. Dont judge a game and call it 'boring space crap' unless youve given it a good try. Yes at first Eve is 'boring space crap' and it takes a little bit to get used to, but once you begin your pvp experience and join a corp, etc. the game gets very exciting. Please, play the game a good amount of time next time before you decide to trash it.
I wondered if that comment would cause any EVE fanboys to jump out and disregard the overall point of my post...
Sorry, 14 days, 2 full weeks, is plenty of time to make an impression. You even admit yourself it's "boring space crap" in the beginning. You don't get a second chance at a first impression. Yes, EVE has tons of depth but there's too much boredom in all that depth. You're into it, I'm not. It's ok. Really.
Haha well first of all Im not a fanboy, Ive played a grand total of about 3 months, maybe 4, and I dont even play anymore. I just dont like it when people put down a game without giving it a chance.
Perhaps for most games 14 days is enough for an impression but NOT with eve. You must get good at Eve, train yourself, and really get into the pvp for it to be enjoyable, which is why its one of the highest rated games. You must learn how to play eve, master the game, and when you truly get into the economy and combat it gets very exciting. After my first month I quit, because I felt the same way you did, but I did eventually go back to it and found that once I gave it a real chance it was indeed a great game.
Like you said, Im into it, your not. thats ok. But its not ok to go trashing it. Really.
Originally posted by gman2100 Like you said, Im into it, your not. thats ok. But its not ok to go trashing it. Really.
I'm not trashing it at all, I simply said it was boring to me. You agreed that it had a boring element. If I felt like "trashing" something, I'd head over to the Face of Mankind forum, but it's just not worth my time. This is also my final reply on the subject, I don't want a flame war, and we're derailing the thread.
Now, for the proliferation of fantasy MMOs, the LOTR movies had little to do with it. Fantasy is easy. Toss in some elves and dwarves, dragons, swords and armor, and other generic fantasy stuff that our culture has had even a basic familiarity with since Tolkien, RPGs and fiction, as well as high school and college mythology classes. Anything unrealistic can be shrugged off as magic. Fantasy is easy to create, easy to imagine, and easy to play. Sci-fi on the other hand starts getting people up in arms because they want the fictional technology to be explainable in real-world terms and physics. The setting, races, etc. become more problematic for creators and the readers/players seem more unforgiving than the fantasy-only crowd. For MMO investors, fantasy is a proven genre. Sci-fi is not. To date, sci-fi has had a canceled MMO, a semi-successful one get totally revamped in mid-swing (SWG) and two years later is still taking a vicious beating over it, and the rest are successful but small. It's dangerous, unproven territory for the guys with the checkbooks and they don't like to drop cash without a high probability they'll see an ROI.
If that happened we will begine to get people comming here saying games like EvE copied off Blizzard
EVE did copy off Blizzard! Everyone knows Starcraft came out in 1998, EVE in 2003. C'mon, that's 5 whole years for CCP to copy Blizzard's space sci-fi idea. There nothing unique, Blizzard created the universe. I think even the Bible is (c) 384 AD Blizzard Entertainment.
I've been playing Fantasy based MMO's since EQ1 and im getting so sick and tired of them tbh! I never ever want to see another dwarf or an elf again!
Back in the day AO was a breath of fresh air, but it got old too, Neocron was a BLAST before NC2, combination of these 2 would be THE Sci-Fi MMO to play.
So finally my vote went to Sci-Fi based, because i've filled my quota of swords and fireballs for my lifetime.
... Because the Sci-Fi world has not had a big movie like fantasy had in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Once Lord of the Rings came out. Every money hungry CEO realized he could make a buck off of fantasy. And that way in my own opinion is why we have a overabundance of fantasy MMO's
According to http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/, three Star Wars films, including Revenge of the Sith in 2005, have each made more money in the US than the top Lord of the Rings installment.
In the "Inflation-Adjusted" chart, four of the top five all-time US money makers are SF -- three Star Wars films and ET: The Extra Terrestrial. The other one of the top five was Titanic. None of the LOTR fims is in the top 20.
Now what's interesting is that the "Top 20 Worldwide" chart (not inflattion-adjusted) has the top Star Wars film down at #7, below two of the LOTR fims, the two Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, and the first Harry Potter film. So maybe part of the leaning toward fantasy is to satisfy the preference of the non-US market.
According to http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/, three Star Wars films, including Revenge of the Sith in 2005, have each made more money in the US than the top Lord of the Rings installment.
In the "Inflation-Adjusted" chart, four of the top five all-time US money makers are SF -- three Star Wars films and ET: The Extra Terrestrial. The other one of the top five was Titanic. None of the LOTR fims is in the top 20. Now what's interesting is that the "Top 20 Worldwide" chart (not inflattion-adjusted) has the top Star Wars film down at #7, below two of the LOTR fims, the two Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, and the first Harry Potter film. So maybe part of the leaning toward fantasy is to satisfy the preference of the non-US market.
Ok so I'm not a numbers guy. But did you hear the way most everyone talked trash about the new Star Wars movies? One time I thought I was going to get lynched for the saying I liked the Phantom Menace .
It just seems that every time a new Sci-Fi movie or show comes, out the fan-boys hate it unless it's " Stargate ", or " Star Trek ".
So when some publishers go to decide to make a new mmo, the probably think to them selves " Hey those geeks hate almost all of the new Sci-Fi shows and movies. I know because I read blogs. So instead of risking money on a Sci-Fi mmo, I'll just stamp out another fantasy mmo and the geeks will give my all there cash. Hahahaha ( evil laugh ).
I like fantasy cause they have cool swords, and I cant wait for AOC so I can pretend to be swordman or something.. cut people in half.. and so on.. I hate it cause of wizards, spells, potions and so on..
Are there any Medevil theme based mmo without spells and wizards.. ?
Originally posted by creed77 Originally posted by Keelmackay According to http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/, three Star Wars films, including Revenge of the Sith in 2005, have each made more money in the US than the top Lord of the Rings installment.
In the "Inflation-Adjusted" chart, four of the top five all-time US money makers are SF -- three Star Wars films and ET: The Extra Terrestrial. The other one of the top five was Titanic. None of the LOTR fims is in the top 20. Now what's interesting is that the "Top 20 Worldwide" chart (not inflattion-adjusted) has the top Star Wars film down at #7, below two of the LOTR fims, the two Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, and the first Harry Potter film. So maybe part of the leaning toward fantasy is to satisfy the preference of the non-US market.
Ok so I'm not a numbers guy. But did you hear the way most everyone talked trash about the new Star Wars movies? One time I thought I was going to get lynched for the saying I liked the Phantom Menace . It just seems that every time a new Sci-Fi movie or show comes, out the fan-boys hate it unless it's " Stargate ", or " Star Trek ". So when some publishers go to decide to make a new mmo, the probably think to them selves " Hey those geeks hate almost all of the new Sci-Fi shows and movies. I know because I read blogs. So instead of risking money on a Sci-Fi mmo, I'll just stamp out another fantasy mmo and the geeks will give my all there cash. Hahahaha ( evil laugh ).
But I'm just taking a wild guess.
*off topic but hey* I personally didn't have a problem with the prequels, all they were was a bit of back story. The only problem is that a few of the leads in each were dry terrible acting. Bad Casting? Probably. Bad Stories and Plot? Good imo.
I know there is some post apocalyptic MMO being developed out there that pits fantasy(magic wielders) vs scifi type characters which is something I've wanted to see for a long time. How cool would it be to have an MMO that had a sci fi and fantasy world mixed in, pitted against each other. oh yeah, you get spells in tabula don't you? well anyway. I was thinking more like a real fantasy world with some type of portal or gateway that lead to a sci fi world, where players could cross the gateway into a pvp area of the others? a Giant city with flyin cars on one side, and on the other, having a setting with foliage, birds, trees, all that jazz.
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I personally prefer Sci-Fi... However, since SWG's NGE there hasn't been a Sci-Fi MMO that I've enjoyed
I like the idea of robots, guns, technology and other futuristic things :-P
I'm playing WoW at the moment, it's well polished and keeps me busy until something better comes along... But I can't say I care for the fastasy elements... Only the game play
MMOs played (In order of how much I've liked them): Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Vanguard, City of Villains / Heroes, Guild Wars, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, Tabula Rasa, Anarchy Online, Ryzom, Final Fantasy XI, Matrix Online, RF Online, Rappelz, Hero Online, Roma Victor
starting to see a few historical mmos too like granada espada and all these pirate mmos, unless you consider them fantasy. i wouldnt play them, but i would play like a caveman mmo or western mmo. I think a caveman mmo could be pretty sweet actually .
personally i dont care if it's fantasy or sci-fi. It is how the dev put together the world that makes the game fun...
sadly after the failure of SWG, not many investors will invest too much money to create a scifi mmo. The demographic of scifi mmo just shows that you won't make as much money as fantasy mmos. Until there is a compnay that has a huge success on scifi mmo, there won't be many big budge scifi mmorpg coming out.
Maybe Agency from Ps3 could make scifi popular again, but who knows
Even with some good posts, I think the reason is being overlooked. (I have not read every post, so if someone stated this, right on)
Fantasy is popular over Sci-Fi for a very understandable reason. People get it. People know what a sword is, and how its supposed to work. Let me give you an example.
You find a +5 fiery Longsword of Doom
You Find a XY3-5H Carbine
Now, I obviously names are arbitrary in some ways because I can make up whatever I want in either case. However, at a root level, you and I both know how to use the first example, where as the second is what exactly? I think players having the base understanding of a Fantasy world is why we see it as common as we do. Less time spent teaching about the intricate aspects of the world, and more time expanding it.
This is my personal opinion based on years of gaming and development.
Originally posted by Fion Originally posted by Hexxeity I'm not saying one is better than the other (though I did vote for my personal preference). However, I feel it is worth mentioning that there is a LOT of very poorly written material in both genres, and a person might be swayed to the opposite camp if one's early experiences were tainted by amateur designers. I'm looking at you, Vanguard. And also you, City of Heroes. (For the record, CoH has improved a bit with their newer stuff!)
Don't you DARE put CoX in the same class as Vanguard. Poorly written MMOG? CoH is highly unique, has the most fun combat in the genre by a LONG shot (though with TR and AoC coming, this may change,) and some of the best damn live events since AC.
You want to talk about poor offerings in both genres. Lets go with things like Dark & Light, Auto Assault, Horizons, Shadowbane and of course Vanguard. CoX is NOT to be included in that list. I have to say, I agree with this guy... CoX is NOT poorly written!! It may not be a deep meaningful MMO... But it's quick and easy fun... And there's a lot to be said for that in a genre that is so swamped with the same old stuff!
MMOs played (In order of how much I've liked them): Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Vanguard, City of Villains / Heroes, Guild Wars, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, Tabula Rasa, Anarchy Online, Ryzom, Final Fantasy XI, Matrix Online, RF Online, Rappelz, Hero Online, Roma Victor
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Why do people prefer fantasy? It's easier to relate to, in my opinion. Myths, legends and folklore has always been around giving fantasy a more familiar feel than sci-fi. A lot of elements, like weapons and armour, castles and houses, are also more hands-on "real" than some thought-up sci-fi stuff. You can see this in the literary genres too, including pen & paper RPGs.
ahem mind telling me exactly how long you played eve online? Let me guess, the 14 day free trial? Please. Dont judge a game and call it 'boring space crap' unless youve given it a good try. Yes at first Eve is 'boring space crap' and it takes a little bit to get used to, but once you begin your pvp experience and join a corp, etc. the game gets very exciting. Please, play the game a good amount of time next time before you decide to trash it.
I wondered if that comment would cause any EVE fanboys to jump out and disregard the overall point of my post...
Sorry, 14 days, 2 full weeks, is plenty of time to make an impression. You even admit yourself it's "boring space crap" in the beginning. You don't get a second chance at a first impression. Yes, EVE has tons of depth but there's too much boredom in all that depth. You're into it, I'm not. It's ok. Really.
I cast my vote for "I don't care as long as the game is well polished and fun to play." Both genres offer virtual experiences that are far removed from real life, which is what I look for in a game.
As to why fantasy might be more popular, I'd agree with the others who explained it as a matter of familiarity. Kids have been raised for ages on bedtime stories of knights and dragons, wizards and witches, ghosts and goblins. SF, in contrast, is a relatively young genre and I doubt many of us got bedtime stories about cosmic strings, nanotech machinery, DNA tailoring, and so on. So fantasy worlds find a larger audience already familiar with the concepts.
On the other hand, some of the fantasy dominance in MMO games might just be an historical accident. If D&D hadn't set RPGs on the fantasy path years ago, if SWG hadn't had its missteps, and if WoW hadn't had its runaway success, then the MMO market might look quite different today. If you look at other media like books, movies, and television, you see that fantasy doesn't have that huge lead over SF.
Why? Fantasy development has a lot of things that are given to you......almost standards. Races, weapons, classes....etc. A Sci-Fi requires alot more thought to develop I think, more imagination. We all have a basic idea of what an elf or ork looks like......a sword can only be changed so much ya know.....it's still a sword. Sci-Fi....it's up in the air. Thats the reason I find Sci-Fi more enjoyable I think.
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Both Science Fiction and Fantasy have there place.
But personally I prefer Science Fiction.
I don't care for for fantasy for the most illogical reasons.
Most of the D&D players I have know are rather odd to be around or snobs. Granted thats only 30 to 40 people, but they all left a rather strange impression.
On the other hand the Sci-Fi geek are kind of crazy also ,and I'm tired of seeing fat Jedi's at conventions. I mean come on people. I like Star Wars, Dune, Doctor Who and comic books as much as the next guy, but I still manage to get exercise.
But this is a post about MMO theme preference, not the strange and bizarre worlds of Geek and fandom.
There should be more Sci-Fi MMO's out there. Not that I would play them all. I just think there should be more choices out there in the gaming world. But there won't be.
And why is that ?
Because the Sci-Fi world has not had a big movie like fantasy had in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.
Once Lord of the Rings came out. Every money hungry CEO realized he could make a buck off of fantasy.
And that way in my own opinion is why we have a overabundance of fantasy MMO's
ahem mind telling me exactly how long you played eve online? Let me guess, the 14 day free trial? Please. Dont judge a game and call it 'boring space crap' unless youve given it a good try. Yes at first Eve is 'boring space crap' and it takes a little bit to get used to, but once you begin your pvp experience and join a corp, etc. the game gets very exciting. Please, play the game a good amount of time next time before you decide to trash it.
I wondered if that comment would cause any EVE fanboys to jump out and disregard the overall point of my post...
Sorry, 14 days, 2 full weeks, is plenty of time to make an impression. You even admit yourself it's "boring space crap" in the beginning. You don't get a second chance at a first impression. Yes, EVE has tons of depth but there's too much boredom in all that depth. You're into it, I'm not. It's ok. Really.
Haha well first of all Im not a fanboy, Ive played a grand total of about 3 months, maybe 4, and I dont even play anymore. I just dont like it when people put down a game without giving it a chance.
Perhaps for most games 14 days is enough for an impression but NOT with eve. You must get good at Eve, train yourself, and really get into the pvp for it to be enjoyable, which is why its one of the highest rated games. You must learn how to play eve, master the game, and when you truly get into the economy and combat it gets very exciting. After my first month I quit, because I felt the same way you did, but I did eventually go back to it and found that once I gave it a real chance it was indeed a great game.
Like you said, Im into it, your not. thats ok. But its not ok to go trashing it. Really.
I'm not trashing it at all, I simply said it was boring to me. You agreed that it had a boring element. If I felt like "trashing" something, I'd head over to the Face of Mankind forum, but it's just not worth my time. This is also my final reply on the subject, I don't want a flame war, and we're derailing the thread.
Now, for the proliferation of fantasy MMOs, the LOTR movies had little to do with it. Fantasy is easy. Toss in some elves and dwarves, dragons, swords and armor, and other generic fantasy stuff that our culture has had even a basic familiarity with since Tolkien, RPGs and fiction, as well as high school and college mythology classes. Anything unrealistic can be shrugged off as magic. Fantasy is easy to create, easy to imagine, and easy to play. Sci-fi on the other hand starts getting people up in arms because they want the fictional technology to be explainable in real-world terms and physics. The setting, races, etc. become more problematic for creators and the readers/players seem more unforgiving than the fantasy-only crowd. For MMO investors, fantasy is a proven genre. Sci-fi is not. To date, sci-fi has had a canceled MMO, a semi-successful one get totally revamped in mid-swing (SWG) and two years later is still taking a vicious beating over it, and the rest are successful but small. It's dangerous, unproven territory for the guys with the checkbooks and they don't like to drop cash without a high probability they'll see an ROI.
If that happened we will begine to get people comming here saying games like EvE copied off Blizzard
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If that happened we will begine to get people comming here saying games like EvE copied off Blizzard
EVE did copy off Blizzard! Everyone knows Starcraft came out in 1998, EVE in 2003. C'mon, that's 5 whole years for CCP to copy Blizzard's space sci-fi idea. There nothing unique, Blizzard created the universe. I think even the Bible is (c) 384 AD Blizzard Entertainment.
I've been playing Fantasy based MMO's since EQ1 and im getting so sick and tired of them tbh! I never ever want to see another dwarf or an elf again!
Back in the day AO was a breath of fresh air, but it got old too, Neocron was a BLAST before NC2, combination of these 2 would be THE Sci-Fi MMO to play.
So finally my vote went to Sci-Fi based, because i've filled my quota of swords and fireballs for my lifetime.
In the "Inflation-Adjusted" chart, four of the top five all-time US money makers are SF -- three Star Wars films and ET: The Extra Terrestrial. The other one of the top five was Titanic. None of the LOTR fims is in the top 20.
Now what's interesting is that the "Top 20 Worldwide" chart (not inflattion-adjusted) has the top Star Wars film down at #7, below two of the LOTR fims, the two Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, and the first Harry Potter film. So maybe part of the leaning toward fantasy is to satisfy the preference of the non-US market.
It just seems that every time a new Sci-Fi movie or show comes, out the fan-boys hate it unless it's " Stargate ", or " Star Trek ".
So when some publishers go to decide to make a new mmo, the probably think to them selves " Hey those geeks hate almost all of the new Sci-Fi shows and movies. I know because I read blogs. So instead of risking money on a Sci-Fi mmo, I'll just stamp out another fantasy mmo and the geeks will give my all there cash. Hahahaha ( evil laugh ).
But I'm just taking a wild guess.
fantasy coz i love to fantasize
I prefer scifi.
I like fantasy cause they have cool swords, and I cant wait for AOC so I can pretend to be swordman or something.. cut people in half.. and so on.. I hate it cause of wizards, spells, potions and so on..
Are there any Medevil theme based mmo without spells and wizards.. ?
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It just seems that every time a new Sci-Fi movie or show comes, out the fan-boys hate it unless it's " Stargate ", or " Star Trek ".
So when some publishers go to decide to make a new mmo, the probably think to them selves " Hey those geeks hate almost all of the new Sci-Fi shows and movies. I know because I read blogs. So instead of risking money on a Sci-Fi mmo, I'll just stamp out another fantasy mmo and the geeks will give my all there cash. Hahahaha ( evil laugh ).
But I'm just taking a wild guess.
*off topic but hey* I personally didn't have a problem with the prequels, all they were was a bit of back story. The only problem is that a few of the leads in each were dry terrible acting. Bad Casting? Probably. Bad Stories and Plot? Good imo.
I know there is some post apocalyptic MMO being developed out there that pits fantasy(magic wielders) vs scifi type characters which is something I've wanted to see for a long time. How cool would it be to have an MMO that had a sci fi and fantasy world mixed in, pitted against each other. oh yeah, you get spells in tabula don't you? well anyway. I was thinking more like a real fantasy world with some type of portal or gateway that lead to a sci fi world, where players could cross the gateway into a pvp area of the others? a Giant city with flyin cars on one side, and on the other, having a setting with foliage, birds, trees, all that jazz.
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I like the idea of robots, guns, technology and other futuristic things :-P
I'm playing WoW at the moment, it's well polished and keeps me busy until something better comes along... But I can't say I care for the fastasy elements... Only the game play
MMOs played (In order of how much I've liked them): Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Vanguard, City of Villains / Heroes, Guild Wars, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, Tabula Rasa, Anarchy Online, Ryzom, Final Fantasy XI, Matrix Online, RF Online, Rappelz, Hero Online, Roma Victor
starting to see a few historical mmos too like granada espada and all these pirate mmos, unless you consider them fantasy. i wouldnt play them, but i would play like a caveman mmo or western mmo. I think a caveman mmo could be pretty sweet actually .
personally i dont care if it's fantasy or sci-fi. It is how the dev put together the world that makes the game fun...
sadly after the failure of SWG, not many investors will invest too much money to create a scifi mmo. The demographic of scifi mmo just shows that you won't make as much money as fantasy mmos. Until there is a compnay that has a huge success on scifi mmo, there won't be many big budge scifi mmorpg coming out.
Maybe Agency from Ps3 could make scifi popular again, but who knows
Bring on Shadowrun the MMORPG already...
My god, the FPS game is ok i've heard, but what a wasted opportunity.
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Even with some good posts, I think the reason is being overlooked. (I have not read every post, so if someone stated this, right on)
Fantasy is popular over Sci-Fi for a very understandable reason. People get it. People know what a sword is, and how its supposed to work. Let me give you an example.
You find a +5 fiery Longsword of Doom
You Find a XY3-5H Carbine
Now, I obviously names are arbitrary in some ways because I can make up whatever I want in either case. However, at a root level, you and I both know how to use the first example, where as the second is what exactly? I think players having the base understanding of a Fantasy world is why we see it as common as we do. Less time spent teaching about the intricate aspects of the world, and more time expanding it.
This is my personal opinion based on years of gaming and development.
You want to talk about poor offerings in both genres. Lets go with things like Dark & Light, Auto Assault, Horizons, Shadowbane and of course Vanguard.
CoX is NOT to be included in that list.
I have to say, I agree with this guy... CoX is NOT poorly written!! It may not be a deep meaningful MMO... But it's quick and easy fun... And there's a lot to be said for that in a genre that is so swamped with the same old stuff!
MMOs played (In order of how much I've liked them): Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Vanguard, City of Villains / Heroes, Guild Wars, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, Tabula Rasa, Anarchy Online, Ryzom, Final Fantasy XI, Matrix Online, RF Online, Rappelz, Hero Online, Roma Victor