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Warhammer and ESRB
BumLife
Member Posts: 65
What makes Warhammer so unique and special? It's the darkness, the massive, ornate armour, the weapons in POOLS OF BLOOD (and this is for callmetoby's ingorance on Warhammer/GamesWorshop lore which is grim and gorey) and all the small details and massive depth of each geography, character, signs/symbols, etc. That's taken from an Art Director of Warhammer.
Do you think Warhammer Online should be Family Rated or maybe for T for teens on the ESRB, or better yet, higher. Throw in your 2cents folks.
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I think a T rating is fine for it. The violence and darkness of Warhammer is offset a lot by the vast amounts of humour and wit that go into it, and I don't think pools of blood and gore would make the game any better.
The only reason I would want an M rating is so that they could have done Slaanesh as a playable Chaos God. And burnt halflings alive on stakes.
mistermental: you've got it coming already
not sure about burning halflings but would dwarves on a stake help?
T rating is what they said they are trying to get and most likely will get, and its a good choice, there is a wider market for T rating. All M or AO does is allow nudity and dismemberment in an MMO, both of which are completely unneeded and draw the completely wrong type of audience to the genre. Everything else blood, violence, strong language, crude humor can all be used in a T rating.
I think the game would be just fine as a teen rating, as stated before this would help more people to play the game. This would be very good considering the game is based on large scale RVR and PvE in groups. (not in all cases)
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Teen rating is fine. Unless of course they decide to put in boobs and the chopping off of heads. Actually I think seeing a Chaos female's boobs would be a major turn off if you know what I mean.
There's is lynching though. In the Empire city
copious amounts of blood and needless gore only accomplish 2 things.
1) appeal to immature adolesent male minds that think graphic violence is cool
and
2) Make squemish weak stomachs (like my own) want to throw up.
So why is it that graphic violence is immature? And what makes you think females don't enjoy it either? Watching pink fluffy buddies bounce around is mature?
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So why is it that graphic violence is immature? And what makes you think females don't enjoy it either? Watching pink fluffy buddies bounce around is mature?
Its not immature, its just not publicly acceptable , look at Passion of the Christ people were calling it a snuff film yet in an MMO that would be a teen rating, which is generally accepted as the extreme and about the limit of what people want to see.
When they refer to violence and gore in video games that require an M or higher rating it involves dismemberment and torture.
If you think torture and beheadings are cool... I'm sure you would have a good time in the middle-east.
Slapping an M rating on a game just because there are visible breasts is not the right thing to do IMO. Before all those people who are overly protective of their children get up in arms let me ask you, would you rather your kid stare at a pair of breasts or watch someone get dismembered, beheaded impaled on a stake and burned alive?
I think I'd choose something natural like breasts myself. I know sooner or later children everywhere will see them, they'll eventually have to grow up and they will either have a set of their own OR they will find themselves someone with a set
. As for the gore, I don't think anybody is really ment to see that.
T rating I think will do just fine. I think it's inevitable that there are gonna be the immature people that flock to any game regardless of the content.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
Breasts are EVIL
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
the realistic gore and violence is, in itself, not immature. I was speaking of the demographic and general attitude that kind of "entertainment" appeals too, and the demographic that thinks that its addition makes the content "better"
Realistic violence does have it's place, the D-Day scene in Saving Private Ryan is a great example. The use of that level of brutal imaginary really conveyed the hellish conditions of that battle. It was artisticly handled and show just enough to get the point across. On the other side of the coin is where brutality is added for its own sake, take the Saw movies or Hostile. The gore in those movies are there for the shock value, and shock value alone, it didn't add to the context of the movie at all.
The same holds true for games. Sure Resident Evil 4 had that beheading death scene (yay chainsaw guy) and it was a shock to see the first time, but after that it didn't add to the game at all. In most cases when a high level of gore is placed in a game it's there as a gimmick to create hipe, this goes back to Mortal Kombat. In most cases it's there to sell otherwise so-so games.
In the case of WAR adding gore to the game would only appeal to gamers would most likely be playing it anyway and keep off the shelves where an average consumer would be able to buy it ( M games don't get on walmart shelves). Realistic gore would add nothing to the game itself.
Finally, you're playing a game with Elves that wield magic and Orcs that carry weapons bigger then they are, and you are whining for "Realistic Violence"
Even if i read a a lot of Warhammer Novel (and they are pretty dark). I wouldn't really like to have a game too dark or M rated. I don't really feel like playing a game where it always seem like there is no hope or such.
It would get to my mood after a while and lose it's fun game side.
You don't really wish to play a game where you feel to be in a concentration camp...