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Do you really think it will be out in q1 08?
Spaz23
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Rumors have begun that probably just like wow in the old days mythic will delay the release date to further down 2008 .. can anyone confirm that its at the beginning of 2008?... Btw this isnt really a clone of wow because wow snatched its ideas from war.
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It is well documented that Warhammer is where Warcraft got its ideas from. Even if an official came out and said Q1 08, it is subject to change at anytime. We can only hope that it releases on said date. We need something to play!
By the way it looks .. they could make it but the game would need 2-3 patches afterward to really get it feeling polished. No biggy if ya ask me seeing as most games at released don't seem playable let alone polished.
So i think if they do release it at the end of q1 08, its gonna play find and all just need a few major patches to really get the game feeling good.
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As always its subject to change. but I think you can get a good idea by looking at the footage that is out there and asking yourself the question 'what is finished and what still needs to be done'.
We know the elves still have a bit of work, if you judge by the problems we saw at the Germany event.
Netcode looks to be in great shape, with dozons of enemies on screen without any slow downs. There is some very minor warping going on but nothing we don't see in any other game.
We know about the number of scenerios they seem to have in the game so far (not sure if they stopped or its still growing). Footage from last month showed some of the environments and textures still being worked on.
Skill balancing? No idea how far they have come with that. Though its obvious they do have quite a few skills implemented now. This stuff will most likely be addressed at the end when they have lots of players testing it. They are just ramping up the lighting effects, which they said there was still more work to be done.
Best way to tell.. wait till we get close to the release date, examine what the current build has to offer, and go from there. If the developers are open about releasing footage (as mythic has been), this should be considerably easier. If they tend to hide footage, then it would be riskier and more of a guessing game.
I think they will meet their estimated release date, but will definitely release it towards the end of Q1 '08. I am assuming January, February, and March make up Q1, which gives them roughly 7 more months if they release in late March. I am fairly confident they can ship in 7 months.
The last month in Q1 is March.. thats 7 months. Definitly, the game is super stable now, from what I can tell, and they have a big publisher and a big dev team. Definitly do think so. They want to beat AOC to launch, I almost guarntee it.
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March release is a no brainer, there is no doubt they will make it. Why else would AoC have pushed their release to march? I'v said it before, Funcom is repeating history by pushing their date back to match Mythics release, just like they did with AO when DAOC came out.
My point being, I doubt either of them is scheduling their release based on the other. They're both just pushing it back to release a quality game finally.
Given what they've shown and that beta is well underway I'd say if they don't reach Q1, it'll be early Q2 when they release. Meaning that they could miss their release date by about a month.
I think as it is now, they'll be getting done fairly close to the time when they're supposed to be releasing.
And if they do push it back I hope for the same reason as last time. To redo something better than it originally was. As long as they don't push it back because of problems, but push it back to enhance content, I'm fine with any push back they send.
If they push it back because of a system not working as they had planned, namely anything to do with RvR then I'll be skeptical and worried and disappointed.
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What I was trying to portray is that now AOC is launching around that time, which when Mythic made the announcement of Q1 08; AOC was NOT going to launch that time, they will wanna get it out before AOC. They are both launching around same time and I'm sure now that the opportunity presents itself they will forgo delaying it and manage their time better now so they can make sure to hit it. If two games launch near the same window in the same genre usually the first one trumpets the second one.. i said usually.. If the first one fails to deliver after the first 30 days of free sub, people will cancel before the sub starts and will play the other. Thats just my hypothesis.
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Absolutely no chance War or AoC will be released in 1st quarter 2008. Release dates are there just for marketing and keeping fanboys in a constant state of anticipation. Fall 2008 is likely the earliest we will see War or Aoc released with chance of them falling to 2009. MMOs now are much larger, more complex , need to be more polished and need a minimum of 1 year of beta (unless you beta test it with paid beta testers prior to beta like WoW).
Hopefully Mythic will do the right thing and push this game back to 2009. The longer they wait the better off we are. Polish and content will always win over rushing a game out early. Games do not get a second chance. If its not fun and polished at release people will move on to the next big game. Although I can;'t think of a next big game in production other than AoC or Warhammer.
Absolutely no chance War or AoC will be released in 1st quarter 2008. Release dates are there just for marketing and keeping fanboys in a constant state of anticipation. Fall 2008 is likely the earliest we will see War or Aoc released with chance of them falling to 2009. MMOs now are much larger, more complex , need to be more polished and need a minimum of 1 year of beta (unless you beta test it with paid beta testers prior to beta like WoW).
Hopefully Mythic will do the right thing and push this game back to 2009. The longer they wait the better off we are. Polish and content will always win over rushing a game out early. Games do not get a second chance. If its not fun and polished at release people will move on to the next big game. Although I can;'t think of a next big game in production other than AoC or Warhammer.
I think thats a little steap..2009 release?? Have you seen how smooth the game apears to be moving? If the beta goes well then I dont see any reason for them not to release in Q2 at the latest.
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The hardest part of making and testing games is getting the core systems running. So things like combat, running, auction houses, scenario queues, etc. Most of which are currently being tested. After that it is putting in new models, environments, and quests. You can call the strike Dwarf squisher and give it a cool animation but the combat system only sees it as x damage for any class.
I would bet it releases Q1 2008. My only concern is crafting since it is a big ?. It might be marketing holding it up or they havn't figured it out yet. The other core systems are getting tested so I have no worries about content being finished.
Q2 2008.
With classes needing testing and obvious client stability issues reported from the latest conventions... I don't think 6 months is enough time to square everything away. Tack on another 3 and it is reasonable.
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6 months, 1/2 year. Plenty of time. They did solid work on DAoC, they'll do it for Warhammer.
This isn't blizzard here guys... where it takes 1 year just to add a LFG system and then it's a load of crap. Blizzard is slow not because "they want things right"... they are slow because they have the most mis-managed group of programmers in the mmo field yet. Any managed development team can have release dates.
If it is "pushed back" well thats ok, least ya know. Blizzard just uses the lame "when it's ready" which means "when we get good and ready and decide to do it".
Sorry if I'm picking on Blizzard but I find their development cycle to be abhorrent (and thats not just MMOs).
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umm.... maybe? its possible, q1 ends in like march right? hmmm maybe not ~
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Mythics track record is unbeatable
DAOC - development began 1999 - finished 2001
Shrouded Isles - released 2002
Foundations - released 2003
Trials of Atlantis - released 2003
New Frontiers - released 2004
Catacombs - released 2004
Darkness Rising - released 2005
Labyrinth of the Minotaur - released 2006
If any company is to set a standard for reliability and consistency its Mythic.
If the info isn't coming from an official source, it's just best to ignore it. As for your question, yes, I do believe WAR is coming out on q1, because they've already been in beta for a while. 5-6 month beta test should be plenty of time to work out any issues. Mythic have already released a succesful MMORPG before this, so it's not like they don't know what they're doing.
I was going to correct you and say Sigil is the most mismanaged group of programmers but... being as though their not around anymore I guess your right.
Don't let this media blitz fool you guys, there is a stagering amount of work left to do to get this game to gold. There are 30 instanced battle zones that all need testing and balancing. 30. WoW is still only up to 4. Last I checked GW only has around 16 or so battle grounds. 30 is a whole hell of a lot to tweek and tune. And we're not even talking about balancing the 6 captial cities and all of the world pvp objectives.
Then you have more resources (models, textures, music ect...) to add to the zones that are still not finished, pve quests and instances to flesh out and balance, classes to tweek, graphics to get to sync and not bug out (there have been a few graphical hicups which is expected at this stage), code to optimize and I haven't started talking polish yet.
Point being, there is a reason why races, classes, zones, pvp... have been so few in number at the trade shows -- there is a lot left to do. If they felt comfortable with more of the content they would have a larger beta and not have to advertise in trade shows (controlled enviroments).
I really really want this game to succeed as much as any of you, I have a fan site dedicated to it, but expect an announcement of a delay -- and be happy if we get to Jan '08 with out one.
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Well, if they don't, Paul is going to kill Jeff, lol.
But seriously I think they can meet their deadline. The game looks almost complete to me. With the exception of maybe some of the elf stuff and some final tweeking it look like it's almost ready for the public. Some of the bugs that are apparent right now usually get fixed soon after release in the patches so no worries there. Besides, the chance of them releasing an absolutely perfect game with no bugs is next to impossible.
If for whatever reason it is pushed back, I have no problem with it, as long as it is for the greater good.
Absolutely no chance War or AoC will be released in 1st quarter 2008. Release dates are there just for marketing and keeping fanboys in a constant state of anticipation. Fall 2008 is likely the earliest we will see War or Aoc released with chance of them falling to 2009. MMOs now are much larger, more complex , need to be more polished and need a minimum of 1 year of beta (unless you beta test it with paid beta testers prior to beta like WoW).
Hopefully Mythic will do the right thing and push this game back to 2009. The longer they wait the better off we are. Polish and content will always win over rushing a game out early. Games do not get a second chance. If its not fun and polished at release people will move on to the next big game. Although I can;'t think of a next big game in production other than AoC or Warhammer.
Zippy, they ARE beta testing it with paid beta testers before beta... i think its very possible they release in Q1
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