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Need help with CPU question.
Shadow4482
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I know this may seem weird for asking, as it maybe to early to tell but, I have a question about CPU Requirements. My current computer is a AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-core processor 4200+, with 2 gigs of ram, 250gb hard drive. My question to everyone here is, do you think I should just get a good graphics card this holiday season, or would a whole new computer be in the question? I'd like to be able to run this game well, without lag.
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In my opinion with good graphic, this game should run very well. There is nothing final, but I think you can wait with new computer.
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hehe alright, I guess a solid 8800 will do the trick then. thx
If Warhammer is running on the same game engine as DAoC its gonna rely on CPU and RAM...
So i guess your system should be fine
From what you've listed, there's no reason to be getting a new computer. You might want to look into overclocking a little, but it's not really necessary.
@ series and up will give you great performance for this game. The specs to run this game smoothly are only 1-step up from WoW. To me, buying a 8800 would just be a big waste of money unless you've just got money to burn, and need a card that could run 4 applications at once.
Don't bother getting the 8800 unless you plan on playing graphics intensive games like Crysis.
i wouldn't get an 8800 right now because not many games would use that amount of power at the moment. a 7850 gt would be more than enough to run the latest games on highest quality at a good resolution. Wait till you actually need the 8800 and by that time there will be something better out and prices would drop dramaticly by then. im running games like Two Worlds, World in conflict, and medal of honour airborne on highest settting at 1440x900 with max AA with no problems on my 7850.
the only draw back is you wont get dx10. if you got cash to burn go for it.
The CPU is fine, actually, it's the same one I have. You didn't mention your graphics card, but I'm running a 7950GT, and I can play anything out right now on high settings. I think you'll be just fine with your setup, no need to upgrade right now. And, the 8800 really isn't any better than the 7950 cards, the 8800 does have DX10 support though.
Your CPU will bottleneck 8800.
Too me, your PC is fine to run WAR.
A single 8800GTX can beat 7950 in SLI.
I have a 4400 x2 dual core, a 7950 gt 512mb, and 2gb of RAM. I don't think I get the FPS I should be, I only get like 60-80 in Counter-Strike:Source with an FPS config on. Vanguard was real choppy and laggy, which I think might have just been because Vanguard was poorly programmed. But yeah, I think it might be my motherboard, it's like 3 or 4 years old now and is the only thing that hasn't been upgraded. =/ I can't figure it out.
Your system is fine. With a decent video card you should have no problems.
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First, the best thing one can do to improve gaming performance is goto broadband instead of dial-up.
Next would be the display. You spend most of your time looking at the display screen (if one can type w/o looking at the keyboard) and most all the $ one spends is to get the best info posting to the display as possible. The 20 to 22" LCD monitors ($250) are shifting to the lower end of gaming with their 1600x1200 (UXGA) res limitations. Newer games are boasting widescreen 1920x1200 (WUXGA) and 2580x1600 (WQXGA,) those are like 2 and 4Mpixel displays refreshed 30 to 60x (fps) means SLI or CF dual gpu territory for 32" LCD ($450.) Throw in x16AF and x4AA and one is looking at the gf8800gtx-ultra $500-700 gpu. Mid-level is the $300 hd2900xt 512MB. Low end x1950pro 512MB ($150.)
One does not really need the 512 or 1GB memory dual gpu unless viewing the larger displays with the AF/AA. Since the gpu post to the display one should consider them together.
A side note is if one will be viewing dvd movies on the computer display (1080i is 1920x1080, 720 is 1280x720, dvd is 720x480res.)
cpu: AMD is being really poor in releasing their Barcelona (quad-core) & Phenom (desktop.)
They are doing everything they can to suppress release of benchmark info to the public about the 2.6GHz Barcelona, (Sept 10 nda.) Some claim the 65nm Barcelona have 170% better performance in 'some' benchmarks vs the antique generation-old opteron systems.
Phenom Agena (quad-core) and Kuma (dual-core) may not even retail in 2007. Especially with Intel going to Wolfdale 45nm Penryn 4Q07 (1333MHz fsb, 6MB L2 cache, SSE4;) later the quad-core Yorkfield (both likely supporting DDR3 system memory.) So, Intel will be retailing next gen Penryn 45nm cpu while AMD may still be delaying their changeover from Windsor 90 to Barcelona 65nm cpu!
Atm the Intel E6750 core 2 duo ($200, 2.66GHz, 1333MHz fsp, 4MB L2, 65nm, G0 stepping, 65W, 72*C) has to be destroying all AMD cpu sales. Notice limited to the LGA775 Intel P35 and Nvidia 680i SLI motherboards.
Also Intel is boasting sub-1Watt and teraflop-on-a-chip within three years (2010,) Sandy Bridge microarchitecture. That likely would be the end of AMD unless the Phenom is an incredible success.
I'd prolly go with an ATI card with that system.
Save some money, and ATI benifits from faster FSB's more then Nvidia does. AMD Processors are typicaly FSB heavy, as they cannot compete on the Core speed side with intel.
Was wondering if anyone could give me a few tips with overclocking and the BIOS screen. I recently put together a computer, never had one with a BIOS. The computer is in a closet and doesnt get much cool air. I leave the door open when I use it but still doesnt get much ventilation. Does overclocking improve performance by alot? Is it something that a casual user will notice? I use computer for playing games mostly, not a hardcore gamer but play alittle more than casual player.
Components are:
Mobo: Asus P5K3 deluxe
Memory: 2 gigs DDR3 1066
Cpu: Q6600 Quad core
Gpu: ATI 2900xt
Sound: Auzentech X-Fi prelude 7.1
Hdd: 150gig WD Raptor dont remeber name of case, have about 4 fans besides the one on cpu
OK FIRST. Your other computers DID have a Bios. (Basic INPUT OUTPUT SYSTEM) ALL PC'S have them.
Overlocking works like this...
FSB X CPU MULTIPLIER = CPU SPEED
Things to remember, when you UP your FSB, your memory gets OC'd too.
The higher you go with overclocking, the less stable your, and sometimes you need to add a LITTLE VERY LITTLE voltage to make it stable again. Problem is + VOLTAGE = + Heat.
I would bump my FSB up a little bit with that machine you should have plenty of headroom to do so. I don't know what the stock multiplier is for the CPU, but you can prolly very safely get another 600mhz on the CPU Speed. Now that will = 600 divided by Multiplier = AMOUNT TO ADD TO THE FSB. Try that and run MEMTEST for a few hours to make sure its stable.
If you have a VERY well ventilated case, you could go a lot higher. You've got fast ram, If its a GOOD manufacture It might OC as much as the CPU. The CPU should OC very well. I've seen those CPU's running at 3.4-3.6 gig. I wouldn't go that far without water cooling myself. If you've got a great CPU cooler. Like one of the Thermaltake ones you can prolly do 3.4 gig. The thing is you've got to experiement a little.
A good rule of thumb is to go slow, OC little bit by little bit. Start at 3.0 gig boot it up, run memtest. If it does well, Try 3.1 gig. Rinse and repeat untill it fails or you reach your desired spot.
Remember when it fials, DON'T PANIC. Reboot, go back into bios, and bump it back down to your last known workable settings. WRITE DOWN what you change.
My Cpu is running usually around 48 degrees C, and Mobo about 39C thats without me doing any overclocking and playing warhammer Dawn of War for about 4 hours. All my computers I have had in past had been premade dell and gateways so guess I never knew they had a BIOS. I would just turn it on and play never really upgrading. I am sorta computer illiterate so this all new to me. Thanks for the tips. Yea, i wish i would have went with a case that had liquid cooling since computer is in a closet. Was kinda overwhelmed with building this in first place and thought liquid cooling would make it more difficult to do. that is until I did it, was alot easier than I thought it would be!
Building PC's is easy but you have to be patient. A lot of people are too excited about running their new beast and rush it and make silly mistakes. Liquid cooling isn't for everyone, and can be a read headache. I would try and ventillate the closet its in as good as possible, maybe buy a small fan to push air through the closet.
I don't see much point in overclocking a Q6600 at this point, but If you do so with that system I suggest trying to get ~3.0ghz (333mhz x 9Mult.) max. Of course, you'll want to start lower and make your way up, and you will want to do some research. You shouldn't have to increase voltage for 3.0ghz or lower, but If you do, be very careful as quad cores are known to get rather hot. You also might want to try bringing your memory to 667mhz for 1:1, if you reach 3.0ghz that is.
P5K Deluxe/Q6600 Short Overclocking Review
Thanks for all the tips. Will try and mess around with it at home later. Nice link too thanks
Let us know how it goes, that processor is one of my fav's.. Great Bang for the BUck!