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WHAT EVERYONES OBSESSION WITH HUNTERS ! ???
zeroskater
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what is everyones obsession with hunters !
seriously ... ok so you can get a pet and train it and so on but other than that why the big hunter hype... personnaly i like rogues . but i will have a troll hunter ! but he wont be my main definatly not.
so whats the huge deal about them ?
bow down to the undead rogue ninja !
1,2 buckle my shoe 3,4 knock on the door 5,6 pick up sticks
7,8 GO AND SKATE !
without life we'd be dead.
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For one thing hunters can use ranged weapons IE bows and guns.... but the aspect that draws people to them is the ability to tame/control/battlewith pets. I dunno but something about taming a tiger or a raptor to fight for you and lvl with you that makes hunter class so appealing
EDIT: Not to mention hunter goes good with the Skinning tradeskill =P Plus hunters are good Roleplaying chars.
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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi
i dunno .. top me they just dont seem that special . oh well live to be diffrent lol
1,2 buckle my shoe 3,4 knock on the door 5,6 pick up sticks
7,8 GO AND SKATE !
without life we'd be dead.
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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi
im going to try a hunter .. but a undead rogue is my main all the way !
1,2 buckle my shoe 3,4 knock on the door 5,6 pick up sticks
7,8 GO AND SKATE !
without life we'd be dead.
sorry to quote you
lol but I dont think the warlock should be depending on its pets it also has some good spells i think. Back to the hunter I think like the people said before me its because you can tame animals and they are one of the best for rp (my opinon). I dont think thought they will be the best for pvp but they will level up fast if they solo...
I have to agree with Vakktn. The idea of fighting along side a rare or ferocious pet is something that I'm sure appeals to the majority of future hunter players; Finding a rare beast that does some great dmg output, as well as looking great
What would be nice is if the tamed beast would grow in size as it levels.. Walking around with a huge spider.. now I know that'll make my day
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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi
Thats stupid......
ok.....alot of games you can have a pet and yet those classes are some of the least used classes
EQ....Beastlord.....you don't se many peopel flocking to be one of those....
Druid....not many running to be those for the pet....
mage...not many of peopel going to that for a pet....
So what if oyu have a pet...I mean in half the games the pet soaks up exp...and takes alot longer to level due to that little fact......so there has to be more then...o you can have a pet......
Like some others have said....warlocks can have pets in this game but no one is like...omg warlocks...warlock this warlock that......
So I still ask....whats the big obsession with hunters.....
Uilwen
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Everquest 2
World of warcraft
Half-life 2
Guild wars
Everquest--Uilwen 45 ranger
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WoW
-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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the ranged weapon with a melee tanker thats urs seems like a great combo. I think im gonna have a gnome with a giant pet and give him Engineering and First Aid. ILL CALL HIM GonzoBonzo
maybe.. LOL
and the pet lvl = size thingy, THATS THE BEST IDEA IVE HEARD ON THE POSTS TODAY!!! honest, u should recommend that to the developers! anyway ..... im drinkin pepsi... so dont stop posting.....or ill get bored and leave....
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ok first off... EQ SUCKS ASS!!! ALL THE BITCHES WHO PLAY IT ARE FAGS, THATS WHY WE'RE IN THE WOW BOARDS!!! secondly: i dont think they soak up exp.... i dont THINK , dont quote me on that.... or else THIS peice of writing will be in that quote lol....
THIRDLY: i think the pets of warlocks and hunters differ or w/e and i think hunter pets arent for a limited time, and i think hunter has trapping abilities and probably is a stealthy char.
anyways, he's bow profficient, so even if u JUST want the bow, and not the pet, he's cool.
and ive heard more ppl going for other classes than hunters.
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Manga....first off you should be gone for the language you've used and you know the out of no where bashing on EQ.....
if eq sux why is it one of the BIGGEST...mmorpgs around today...and has been for like 5 years now........if its so bad why don't you make a new mmorpg that will be the EQ killer???
and I only used eq as an example..because you know the whole pet is the reason for obsession is sorta not the point so I was only clearing that up....
Uilwen
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Everquest 2
World of warcraft
Half-life 2
Guild wars
Everquest--Uilwen 45 ranger
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WoW
-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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Wow dude take a chill pill....so what if there are EQ2 fans here... they are also fans of MMOs too... this is a MMORPG site not a WoW site =P....
BTW I wouldnt be supprised if the hunter pets DO take some of your experience cuz they ARE lvling with you as well just like you would share xp in a group. Still hunter is very appealing I mean having a pet for a companion is pretty sweet IMO...as for warlocks and their pets... their "pets" arent natural pets they are demonic and you only have 3/4 choices for pets and most likely only one is good (Voidwalker). Hunters have a wide variety of pets they can tame which is why they are more appealing then warlocks.... not to mention its cool "hunting" stuff with your bow =D
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"Those who brake the ninja code and rules of this world are called trash. But you know what? Those who don't take care of their comrades are even lower than trash." - Hatake Kakashi
Personally I think Hunters are so popular right now because they haven't been added to the beta yet, thus no one really knows how they'll play. Their absence makes for intrique, so naturally everyone's talking about them.
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Actually im positive,yes you can quote me,i forgot where i heard it, but im sure that if ur a hunter the pet does not soak up exp(might have heard it on world of warcraft.com).
Also they are so apealing because you can have so many different animals as pets....Such as spider,tarantuala,wolf(ton of dif colors),bears(ton of dif colors),raptors,flying animals(hawk is the only one i'm positive of at the moment),and uh.......wild boar,and hmm i think you can have a giraffe.
Normaly I would never double post.
However, the things people are talking about in this thread are the EXACT same thing that is being talked about in every other hunter thread.
I compiled this LONG post that answers everyone's question that they keep asking. You act like no one is answering, I answered, you just don't want to read it because of it's length, so here it is again. =P
If you post it, I will come
Vakktn also made a post with which I agree with.
"I just hope hunters arent overpowered like CH were in SWG cuz if they are expect to see a HUGE bandwagon of people going to play hunter even if they had no intrest in playing that class... especially on the FvF servers cuz people on the FvF servers will do anything to get an edge in combat"
First off, Jubbincake makes a very good point. I want to address the issues he brought up first.
There's a trend with mmorpg's, where if a lot of people play it, the devs figure it's over powered (otherwise why would so many people choose the class?) So to detour people from playing that class, they'll gimp it. Vakk and Jubb are aware of this too. The CH in SWG is a VERY good example, infact I got to suffer the nerf bat on that one as well. Played it because I wanted a pet class in an mmo where you can TAME your pet. However it was highly over played, too poweful, and got hit by the nerf bat hard. DAOC Rangers, though not a pet class, they were Hibs "Archer" class. Started out highly powerful, a LOT of people played them, I played one because I've always RPed a ranger. However, they got nerfed hard. In all those examples, people quit playing those classes and give up, like Vakk said, a lot of people will just play it because it's the most powerful class.
Now keep in mind however, all this is just ASSUMING the hunter is some extremely powerful class, which I think blizzard is trying very hard to avoid. The odds of a pet-archer class being too powerful for FvF are pretty slim with blizz in control. Typicaly mages become the sought after power gamer class, they can pretty much out damage any other class, and as a result will get more kills than anyone in PvP, and thus get more PvP rewards from those kills. I expect to see a lot of people start off with the hunter because it's the "archer" class and believe that it will outdo all other classes at PvP. Though there will probably be some hard time XPing, you'll have to work with your pet the same way the Warlock does, there's some skill involved there. Another thing I should mention, though I'm devating some what and I know I'm not staying on track very well, just tossing out thoughts as I remember them, but Kat posted the % ratio of how many of each class there were on the test server. There are currently more warriors than any other class, and warlocks (the only pet class atm) are right down the middle, with Shamans being the least played, and Rogues being the 2nd most popular. So back to what I was saying, IF the hunter is extremely powerful it'll get nerfed HARD, no doubt making even some of the people who play it because they like the class, and not because they want to be 'uber', stop playing it. However, over time it'll be slowely un-nerfed, as rangers in DAOC were. I don't like talking about my chars in other games because I never want to seem like I'm boasting, but this is the best example I can think of. I took a ranger to cap level, and reached RR5L5 (14th highest RP holding ranger to give you an idea how long that takes to get) then at that point, I could do things that other classes only dreamed about, and EVERYONE thought rangers were gimped, but that's because so many people stopped playing them, I however didn't give up on mine, and was able to prove that they were a good class, IF you knew how to play it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm the best "ranger" in the world, just that there's a cycle to how things go in mmorpg's, "overpowered-gimped-slowely beefed back up". The only reason I say all that however, is to show why I'm not worried about how powerful or not powerful the hunter is. It's going to fluxuate, and those that play the class because they love the class and not because they want to be l33t, are most likely the people who will do the best and get the farthest with the class.
Now I should say that I hope everyone hates the hunter, that would be awesome, the less people like it the better, the more unique I'll be by playing it.
The ONE thing I don't like about the hunter atm, is the vast amount of interest people are showing in it. I'm not sure if that just means I have 'good' taste because I like what's obviously popular, but I also wish I had more 'unique' taste. IE I played Yugo as my primary char in Bloody Roar 3 (he morphs into the wolf), and infact anything related to wolves I usualy choose, Hunters can tame wolves, and thus that's one of the main draws for me. Sometimes I wish my fav animal was a sloth... I'm not about to change what I've waited oh so long for because it's "popular" I'm just going to hope people lose interest in it. I don't ever wanna hear "sorry, we already have 2 hunters in our group" that would just ruin my day. In other games where you COULD tame wolves, or get them as pets, they were never the BEST pet. So you're faced with "use what you love" or "use what will win". It's hard to choose the flaming sword of death when you find out there's a pink pixy wand that has 5X's better damage. Sure the sword looks cool, but in a fight that god damn pink pixy wand will always kick your ass, so you're faced with either using it, or not using it and dying. That design flaw has effected pets in every other mmorpg I've played. SWG is a good example. Let's list what it had that I liked, you could tame the pet, you could keep the pet and level it. All pro's that promote "bonding" with the creature. HOWEVER if you wanted to actualy win, you'd use Rancors. UO, you could tame your pets, level them, and bond with them, HOWEVER if you wanted the BEST pet, you needed a dragon. Now pay attention to this next part, because this is the main draw for me towards hunters in WoW. You have to actualy go out and find the pet and tame it (JUST like UO and unlike DAOC-SB where you just "summon" your pet). Which adds a very large aspect to me, you feel more like it's an actual creature other than just a summon spell that wears off and is gone until re-cast. Then there's the ability to keep that exact same pet with you forever. The only way you could ever lose a pet for good, is if you dismiss it so you can tame another pet instead. Hunters can only have 1 pet owned at a time (mounts don't count as pets), so there's that aspect that you really have to like your pet to wanna keep it, not just have "hmm I think I'll use grizzley bear #3 for this situation". You pick a pet, and train it in powers that compliment your play style. Which is the next thing I like, your pet can level, and not only can it level, but it can level to a point that it'll be as good as anything you'll be able to tame at cap level. Imagine taming that lvl 1 crab near your starter city keeping it with you forever, and when you reach cap level you've got yourself the highest possible level crab that can exist and be tamed by a player in the game (BTW pets grow biggers as their level increases, that'd be one big crab), and you run into someone who just recently tamed something like a baby dragon welp or something and your crab is totaly kicking the shit outa that dragon, because you've gotten it to a higher level and it has more powers. Or say the dragon was cap level too, and with lots of powers, at least your crab could hold it's own, otherwise EVERYONE who was ANYONE would just tame the dragon welps. This to me means, I can finaly tame a wolf, name it, keep it and travel with it forever and never have to think "hmm... My character would be a lot better if I tamed this creature instead". So that's what the hunter class is to me, choice.
While on that note, I should bring up some mis-conceptions I'm noticing. First off, Taurens-Dwarves use guns, Nelves-Trolls use Bows, I can't remember what orcs use. HOWEVER listen to this part, a Tauren for example COULD train in the bow, but he won't get any powers-features to enhance it. He'll be able to use it and raise the bow skill, but will never recieve any of the powers-traits that he gets from the talent system. Now if he used a gun instead, he would have all those talents powering it up. So even though you have the CHOICE to use other ranged weapons, what one you use will be determined by your race, because you're not going to want to gimp yourself by removing the talent benefits from your character pallet. Now whether or not you use a ranged weapon is just about as much up to debate as whether or not you use a pet. In a game like DAOC, if you played as a ranger, you could chose to never train in the bow, you could train your melee instead, but WHY? If you're going to play a ranged weapon class, USE the ranged weapon, USE the skills and weapons that the class is superb at. You can either be the best archer out of all the classes, or you can be an 'okay' swordsman with a pet. Which will never be as good as a "GREAT" archer with a pet. Okay so that being said, a ranged weapon will be your 'primary' weapon. Hunters are not worthless up close however, though they are the ranged melee class in the game, Blizz has stated that they won't be totaly powerless up close, all hunters will have the natual ability to dual wield, however you can train in just about any other weapon type if you don't want to dual wield, pretty sure you can use a weapon like a 2h axe if you wanted. However this is one area that I can't give all the details on, because that right there is something that blizz is reworking atm. I was never able to find out exactly what weapons they can train in, since each class has some restrictions, but as a general rule, you can use most everything, as an example mages can use swords if they want, even daggers. Though keep in mind, each class will have talents that may make choosing some weapons over others more likely.
Now this is just me thinking out loud here, and this isn't for sure, but say Hunters got talents that made dual wielding weapons do more damage, but had no talents to make 2H axes do more damage, then it'd be obvious if you wanted the most out of your class, you'd choose to dual wield.
Now that I've said all that, everyone is probably wondering where I've learned that. Well 7 months of reading 3+ hours of WoW FAQ's, reviews, and forums every night will do that to ya. I'm sorry that I can't post the links from where I got that info, and for some reason the info on hunters has become really hard to find ever since beta started. The reason for that is, hunters WERE in the alpha, and everytime Blizz put out info on the classes, they talked about ALL the classes INCLUDING Hunters, once the game went into beta however, the hunters were removed from the game to be reworked and now everytime they release class info, they don't mention anything about the hunter. Though I'm sure when the class is ready they'll release EVERYTHING you need to know and there'll be a flood of info on it. Some of what I've said about them may even change drasticaly, however since I've yet to find information telling me otherwise, what I've stated so far on hunters is the most recent info I can gather on them. Odds are they won't be changed by much, but there's the info regardless. I'm also very sorry I couldn't find that thread that listed all the tamable creatures so far in the game. If you're curious whether or not a certain creature can be tamed, feel free to ask and I'll let you know. I can't remember the entire list, but it is on sites like warcry in the creature data base, it says whether it's tamable or not.
I think that's about everything? If I left anything out, or you're still wondering something, just ask and I'll let you know if I can fill you in on it or not
Hope it doesn't take you as long to read this as it took me to write it.
(and proof read LoL)
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Dracius writed all this...........Shit man he got nothing to do of he"s weekends
good . verry good Smithers!
LOVE U MOM
good . verry good Smithers!
LOVE U MOM
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"Say hello to my little friend.." They're just funny, I guess.
Will they ever make MMORPGS without the need of creditcards?! Geez, I don't get to play anything!!
http://www.garfield.com/comics/comics_archives_strip.html?2004-ga040701
Best comic ever =P
i think they have play cards (or something of the sort) where u pay like 20 bucks for a month (just saying) and instead of givin them ur pin number, u give them ur play card #, THATS WAT I HEARD, i saw sims online do sometin like that.
anyways... DO MY POLL
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I'll probably be a alliance character as my main and horde as my second (alliance = paladin/warrior Horde= hunter/mage) still deciding
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