World of Warcraft is a better game than Everquest 2, in my opinion, but for me it's not really a "There can only be one" kind of thing. Much of the anti-World of Warcraft sentiment you'll find on these forums is based on the fact that it's Gamer Crack, and it's just not doing it for people anymore, so they're scrambling for a new, more powerful drug. Unfortunately for them, there is nothing better, which frustrates people and makes them hate the game. People who have played for years will quit saying "This game is repetitive and boring." Yet, they played for two years? I don't get it.
Anyway, if you want to play EQ2 go right ahead, as long as you never play WoW to compare, you won't know what you're missing, and EQ2 will be great for you. Be aware that if you give WoW a shot, though, you probably won't find a better game to play for a very long time, so be prepared to stick with it.
(I am both a current EQ2 player, and former World of Warcraft player, just as a disclaimer.)
I know you have made your choice already, but I just wanted to add my 2cents in while we are on the topic. I've played practically any game you can list and out of EQ2 and WoW, I would choose WoW any day of the week. I don't play the game now, for my own reasons, but I will tell you why you should.
WoW-
Polished game- Everything from the UI, where you can see player info by a click of a button on the chat screen and the dressing room, to the quests, gameplay, and many other things seem flawless in execution. Do you need flawless? No, but once you have had flawless, it is hard to go back to a game that makes playing more cumbersome.
PvP- I'm not your die hard FFA fanatic, so I am open to all types of PvP (including FFA). WoW's PvPing is fun (BG's) and balanced. Balanced as in the number of people you square off against, and for the most part the classes are balanced too. Twinking can be a problem, but twinking cannot replace good teamwork and skill. You are rewarded with rank for PvPing and honor to spend on new equipment and trinkets.
PvE- This game has it all, from solo quests to large raids. Along the way you will find that there are instanced dungeons that are meant for 5 people. Do those, they are some of the best content in the game. Be sure to read up on the story behind each instance on the WoW forums. They are short, so don't be afraid of wasting your time. There are enough instances in-game for you to do a new one every 5-10 levels. I do them about 3 times before moving on to the next instance. This game also has group encounters in the open world. They aren't camped like you would imagine either, because they don't drop uber gear or anything.
Community- With 9 million subscribers, you are going to have a lot of asshats. But...you will also have a lot of mature people to play with. In every server I played on, there was several nice guilds to join that had nothing to do with hardcore raiding, PvP smack talking, or immature behavior in general. They aren't hard to find either. Just 5 minutes on the Guild recruitment channel or the forums will land yourself in a nice mature and respectful guild. General chat is the usual culprit of immature behavior and can be turned off. Nothing on general chat is worth hearing, especially if you have a guild. You have LFG channels and a great LFG tool to use if you want to find more people to group with, so general chat is not needed, which eliminates the majority of immature content you get in the game.
I can go on and on about what WoW did right, but I'd rather not to. Instead, I open myself for questions if you have any in particular.
As for EQ2, here is my problem with it.
It is hard to get into for one. Without a lively lower level community, the game feels empty and boring. In WoW, you never have a problem completing any group quests, even the lowr level ones, since new players are constantly coming to the game and old ones are constantly rerolling.
The economy is a wreck in EQ2. The same could be said for WoW, except that you don't need to rely on the community for anything other than grouping. Crafting is so easy in Wow, that you can gear yourself up and enough gear drops from mobs, that you don't have to craft even. In EQ2, it is recommended to pick up all the collectables and sell them. For me, this was unacceptable, since I didn't want to do anything other than kill to make money. I like crafting, but you can spend literally a day or more getting your skills up for your next suit of armor. That's another thing, there aren't enough armor skins in the game to keep things interesting, whereas in Wow, you have a new armor skin every few levels, which makes leveling your character fun. It is fun to get a new piece of gear every few levels that you can use.
The AA system can be fun, but also too much for newer people to get into. Newer people are already severely behind the power curb, and to add to it, have to learn the AA system and get those. The AA system was designed more for the veterans to have an added layer of uniquness to their characters. Not a bad thing, it's just one more obstacle you need to hurdle as a new player. WoW's talent system is easy to learn and to use. No obstacle there.
EQ2 is also heavily zoned and it has almost no direction in that game. Some people like this, but a lot of people don't. You don't need to be lead by the hand to each area, but some direction would be nice. EQ2 has so many quests in the starting zones that it feels utterly hopeless if you are the type that doesn't like to miss content and doesn't like to do content without a reward attached to it for your time. To top it off, the content is really boring. I didn't run across one quests at the early levels that wasn't about killing x amount of creatures, delivering this or that, or collecting this or that from a creature you kill. In Wow, there is some quests, that feel semi important in the early levels.
EQ2 just felt really boring, hard to get into, and lacking in the lower level community department. It is a good game, but not nearly as good as WoW. Again, we can compare points on this if you prefer in a seperate post. I know some EQ2 players will want to argue this. Keep in mind that if a game can't capture you within the first day, it is not worth playing. It shouldn't be a chore to get to good content. Good content should be there for all levels. Wow did this for me, but EQ2 didn't.
With that said, EQ2 had a better class system and more class diversity since it has so many classes. It also is friendly to rerolling, because there is so much content, that you can start a new character and do something new. In WOW, it takes about 30 levels to really get a feel of what your class is all about, because there are many staple abilities that don't show up till then. I quit Wow, because I would decide to reroll and would be forced to swallow the same content over and over again. For someone who only liked 3-4 races and 2-3 classes in the game, this was a game killer. Each race has their own starting area, but after level 30 or so, every race ends up doing the same quests. Like EQ2, WoW has a lot of boring quests, but even the unique and fun quests that WOW has sporadically as you level up, isn't enough to make you want to do the boring quests more than a couple of times.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
JK's response is exactly why I made this thread! You've answered alot of the questions I had & some I didn't think of before.
My wife & I really enjoy WoW & picked up the Retail Version for each of us this afternoon. I love that we can get on for an hour after the kids go to bed & still get a few quests done. I like the fact that it's a very casual & laid back atmosphere, where we can feel like we accomplished something ever after playing for only a little bit at a time. So far, we've run into several players who were more than happy to help us with a tough mob or point us in the right direction.
I can see us playing this for quite some time. My wife even said she was getting that nostalgic feeling we had in EQ1 so many years ago, grouping on Orc Hill, right outside of Crushbone.
JK's response is exactly why I made this thread! You've answered alot of the questions I had & some I didn't think of before. My wife & I really enjoy WoW & picked up the Retail Version for each of us this afternoon. I love that we can get on for an hour after the kids go to bed & still get a few quests done. I like the fact that it's a very casual & laid back atmosphere, where we can feel like we accomplished something ever after playing for only a little bit at a time. So far, we've run into several players who were more than happy to help us with a tough mob or point us in the right direction. I can see us playing this for quite some time. My wife even said she was getting that nostalgic feeling we had in EQ1 so many years ago, grouping on Orc Hill, right outside of Crushbone.
Thanks,
I personally just resubbed to WoW myself and here is why. WoW provides the epic story, well balanced gameplay, and many things to do. I mean, just watch the intro to the Burning Crusade Expansion, or watch the Wrath of the Lich King trailor. Hell, there are many quests in WOW that has a nice story attached to it and bring up epic feelings from within you. I won't spoil anything for you and your wife, but be sure to explore all of the quests this game has to offer. This game also has events several times a year every year to mark real life holidays and also made up in-game holidays. Really adds atmosphere to the game.
I don't know about EQ2, but WoW is a great game for duoing, like you and your wife are doing. To top it off, you "will" meet great people and soon enough will have a steady 4-5 people to group with for the harder isntances that you and your wife cannot get through on your own. Just a suggestion, since most people tend to not read quest descriptions; gather all of the quests in the area you are in before you join a group with others. That way you have a chance to read the quests without feeling like you are inconveniencing anyone. If you don't plan to group with anyone, which a lot of couples don't, then take a quest 1-2 at a time. You are going to level a lot slower and will be retracing your steps more, but at least you will remember the quest description and will be better immersed into the story line you are completing. If you don't do this, you will end up getting to a quest in your journal, forgetting what the story is all about, and will have the feeling of just doing kill x for item y quests.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
One thing though, you said you had friends playing in both games... if you're one of those people who need to have friends playing MMO's with you, (I'm not, I just make new ones)
KYLERAN! lol^^
This was sarcasm, I bet.
RL friends are these strange beings, who join your party on birthday/marriage, allowance for removal and so on.
Strangely enough, it isn't. I'm old so I've never had many peers who wanted to play the same games that i do (or even play games for that matter) so I've learned to play games for their content, and not for the people in them. I join guilds, participate actively, enjoy the good times, however once the game loses appeal I move on, regardless what my "friends" in the previous game chose to do.
Its ok though, I've been a member of many a great guild and had adventures with many fine folks..... no regrets really....
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I've played EQ2 since it's release and was looking for something new so I DL'd the 10-day trial for WoW.
I started on the Farstrider RP server because I heard it was supposed to have one of the most mature WoW communites. Within 10 minutes of creating my new human warrior, the general chat channel was spammed by a couple of players trying to outdo each other in drawing parts of the female anatomy in text characters. Other players started yelling at them to stop, but of course that only encouraged them. I immediately logged out and uninstalled the trial.
I'm now happily back playing EQ2 and a little Vanguard on my SOE Station Pass. To me, community is EVERYTHING in an MMO and WoW doesn't have it. Vanguard's is a little elitist at times, but at least they're not so outrageously vulgar. EQ2's community is second to none, now that Auto Assault's mutant faction has gone to the great wasteland in the sky.
I also prefer EQ2's and Vanguard's more realistic color palettes. WoW's were too gaudy to be immersive for me.
But, everybody has different requirements for an MMO. Nine million people think WoW is D4 R0X0R5. I'm just glad it's there to keep the L337 D00D5 out of my MMOs.
My wife & I are playing the trial for WoW, & so far, enjoying it. I hope there's alot of quests, because that's what she likes doing when I'm not home.
IMO the quests seem a bit bleak for my needs at levels 36-50 (ie. leveling feels grindy) but 50+ gets better. Outland has a ton of quests and I still haven't completed them all.
We've been having a blast in WoW so far. Every night after the kids go to bed, we'll stay up for a couple hours & just do quests, & we're still leveling rather quickly.
I really like that there are quite a few quests out there, even though a few of them are "Kill X amount of X animal/mob", they let me explore new areas & there's still MUCH more I haven't seen yet.
Nothing on the market is a substitute for the old days but WoW is great fun for most people for a while (till you get to and get tired of endgame). If you want to try something new for a little while give WoW a shot. EQ2 is great but you've already played it.. if you really liked it go back, the new expansions have great content and the end-game is pretty good.
Your third option is LOTRO... If you dont want to return to EQ2 and really hate the cartoony graphics of WoW this could be worth a try.
Grymm MMO addict in recovery! EQ,SWG preCU,L2,EQ2,GW,CoH/CoV,V:SOH, Aion,AoC,TR,WAR,EVE,BP,RIFT,WoW and others... no more!
I feel obliged to post in this thread, as an MMO player and indeed a WoW player I'm delighted the OP has discovered the wonders of Azeroth and what awaits said adventurers. Alot of people dislike WoW as has been said, this is for many reasons, both personal and non-personal but the main thing people who are currently playing WoW have to remember is that this is all fresh and new to the OP and his wife, don't you remember your first afternoon in Azeroth?
Well, I sure do. I remember Feb '05, standing outside my local game shop, drooling, salivating almost. The anticipation was killing me. Getting home (and luckily enough being in college at the time) was never such a long journey. Installation was never such a tedious prospect but my oh my, the feeling of being there, the feeling was never soooo good.
I remember my WoW days with pride, the early days were the best, thats for sure but everything I ever did, everything I ever accomplished in WoW is remember. My struggle to level 60, grinding the last five levels in Winterspring. The first few days of PvP, it's official launch. Camping Tanaris flight paths and the zerging in Hillsbrad, those are the things of legend - and for me my fondest MMO memories, even if WoW wasn't my first it certainly was the best expereince.
It really is very hard to try and describe how World of Warcraft was, ofcourse it may still be the same for newcomers but two/three years ago the magic that came into your life while you wandered and discovered the different lands and cultures of Azeroth is something that I and most Gamers alike are likely to remember for a long long time.
I won't blabber on I just wanted to wish the OP best of luck in your adventures, I for one wish I was you, rediscovering all the great things that WoW has to offer.
I played WoW since beta, darn those Dwarf Mages. I literally wtinessed it go from gold, to well.. dirt? I cancelled my account this morning in fact. It is fun at the start, but in the end it is endless farming. You have to do the same instances over and over for rep in order to gain access to the "Heroic" versions of it, far harder but with far better drops. I was having to farm for weeks in order to get my Whitemend Helmet made. At beggining levels it is easy to play it casually. After the Level 40 point, you find yourself wasting much more time. All in all, with transfers i've paid for and such, i've wasted a good thousand bucks on the game. Blizzard hardly cares for customers, they do what they can to make you want to stay "in the world of Azeroth". Then you start noticing all the idle gold sellers that are free to spam around the hot spots of the main cities, that's when it gets annoying. Making over one-million dollars a month, you'd think they'd be able to have people monitor very obvious problems like that and handle them. GM's are given little power, and are nothing but you speaking to an automated machine [figure of speach, maybe they are required to use all those pre-typed blocks of texts that should be someone communicating with you one on one about the issue you are reporting]. Basically, I loved the game, but I can't stand it anymore. Good luck with finding a good one, my fiance and I are attempting the same thing, except we didn't like WoW or EQII. Right now we are trying the DDO trial.
I feel obliged to post in this thread, as an MMO player and indeed a WoW player I'm delighted the OP has discovered the wonders of Azeroth and what awaits said adventurers. Alot of people dislike WoW as has been said, this is for many reasons, both personal and non-personal but the main thing people who are currently playing WoW have to remember is that this is all fresh and new to the OP and his wife, don't you remember your first afternoon in Azeroth? Well, I sure do. I remember Feb '05, standing outside my local game shop, drooling, salivating almost. The anticipation was killing me. Getting home (and luckily enough being in college at the time) was never such a long journey. Installation was never such a tedious prospect but my oh my, the feeling of being there, the feeling was never soooo good. I remember my WoW days with pride, the early days were the best, thats for sure but everything I ever did, everything I ever accomplished in WoW is remember. My struggle to level 60, grinding the last five levels in Winterspring. The first few days of PvP, it's official launch. Camping Tanaris flight paths and the zerging in Hillsbrad, those are the things of legend - and for me my fondest MMO memories, even if WoW wasn't my first it certainly was the best expereince. It really is very hard to try and describe how World of Warcraft was, ofcourse it may still be the same for newcomers but two/three years ago the magic that came into your life while you wandered and discovered the different lands and cultures of Azeroth is something that I and most Gamers alike are likely to remember for a long long time. I won't blabber on I just wanted to wish the OP best of luck in your adventures, I for one wish I was you, rediscovering all the great things that WoW has to offer.
Speedhaak, do you still play now? I see your sig says you do, but the way you talk, it sounds like you have lost that spark that made you love WoW as much as you express within your post.
I know several people in real life that play that have level 70s & still love playing. I am also a notorious alt runner, so I'll have plenty of characters to play with, I'm sure.
I wouldn't suggest WoW. I have played that game for a very long time and the game seems to have taken a terrible turn. In my experiences if you dont have the right gear your not going anywhere. If you decide to go with WoW and plan on raiding, I would suggest you top out all your gear and ask the guild what spec they need and maybe they will let you raid.
If you don't plan on raiding and just wanna hang with friends and chill, then this is the game for you. You can spend alot of time questing , gaining gold and instancing and have alot of fun. Bad part comes when you want to raid. You'll start running into elitest attitudes.
The game runs really smooth and is very polished. It is a fun game but the raiding side of the game has gotten really specific and finite.
I'd go for WoW too - it truely is a great game, at least up to level 40ish. A bit family friendly maybe, but if playing with your wife I guess that's not a bad thing. Lotro looks nice too.
I still play, now and then with my UD Rogue (the lvl 70 one) but for me the spark is just gone, the magic sucked dry after countless hours of raiding. You see thats the thing these days with WoW, the Raiding, people that have been playing since day one have basically been running the same recycled content over and over for almost two years. I just miss the good old days of exploring with my friends and progressing my character.
My first Rogue, A Night Elf was great. We all started on alliance (myself and my mates). Three of us rolled Night Elves, one rolled a Dwarf and four others rolled Humans. The fun ofcourse, was for myself and my two mates trying to make it off the Elven continent in an effort to meet up with our friends. Just trust me, your first character will be magical so enjoy it, even the second will be new. But once you get to the stage I'm at after 34 months of play and countless characters and 1000's of hours spent in end-game Dungeons, well lets just say the spark (as you put it) is gone.
However, I'll hold out until the end as most of my friends still play and with a new expansion on the horizon there is hope yet of the old days returning to me.
i can tell you from personal experience..ive played both games.
if you are going to want to pvp there is no question, WoW is the place to go.
if you are only going to be interested in pve, either would be a great choice. if you want more details, please see my post ive made in the everquest2 forums and you will see many, many people that agree with everything ive said about pvp servers and the pvp in eq2. it is the biggest waste of time you could ever commit to a community that probably wont even be there in a year.
I've never been huge into PvP (mainly because I suck at it), but I might try it at a higher level. I will, however, raid on a regular basis.
If your going to raid , find a guild with alot of nice people. Some guild members I have been with got real cutthroat when it came to loot and it totally killed the fun and feeling of accomplishment. I would suggest alot of homework. I have even ask if I could hang in the ventrilo channel while they were raiding to hear reactions.
or go to wow if you not have enough time, the world and and quest let you go easily to max level in duo with lot of fun.
raid are the best part of wow but it require a lot of dedication... but the level grind is in itself a good experience of a well done and interresting MMORPG... sadly....
We joined a guild on Greymane called the Knights of Valor, mainly because I have RL friends there, but they are very nice people. One of the higher members even spent a couple hours with my wife while I was at work, helping her get linen for crafting. Couldn't ask for a better guild.
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World of Warcraft is a better game than Everquest 2, in my opinion, but for me it's not really a "There can only be one" kind of thing. Much of the anti-World of Warcraft sentiment you'll find on these forums is based on the fact that it's Gamer Crack, and it's just not doing it for people anymore, so they're scrambling for a new, more powerful drug. Unfortunately for them, there is nothing better, which frustrates people and makes them hate the game. People who have played for years will quit saying "This game is repetitive and boring." Yet, they played for two years? I don't get it.
Anyway, if you want to play EQ2 go right ahead, as long as you never play WoW to compare, you won't know what you're missing, and EQ2 will be great for you. Be aware that if you give WoW a shot, though, you probably won't find a better game to play for a very long time, so be prepared to stick with it.
(I am both a current EQ2 player, and former World of Warcraft player, just as a disclaimer.)
I know you have made your choice already, but I just wanted to add my 2cents in while we are on the topic. I've played practically any game you can list and out of EQ2 and WoW, I would choose WoW any day of the week. I don't play the game now, for my own reasons, but I will tell you why you should.
WoW-
Polished game- Everything from the UI, where you can see player info by a click of a button on the chat screen and the dressing room, to the quests, gameplay, and many other things seem flawless in execution. Do you need flawless? No, but once you have had flawless, it is hard to go back to a game that makes playing more cumbersome.
PvP- I'm not your die hard FFA fanatic, so I am open to all types of PvP (including FFA). WoW's PvPing is fun (BG's) and balanced. Balanced as in the number of people you square off against, and for the most part the classes are balanced too. Twinking can be a problem, but twinking cannot replace good teamwork and skill. You are rewarded with rank for PvPing and honor to spend on new equipment and trinkets.
PvE- This game has it all, from solo quests to large raids. Along the way you will find that there are instanced dungeons that are meant for 5 people. Do those, they are some of the best content in the game. Be sure to read up on the story behind each instance on the WoW forums. They are short, so don't be afraid of wasting your time. There are enough instances in-game for you to do a new one every 5-10 levels. I do them about 3 times before moving on to the next instance. This game also has group encounters in the open world. They aren't camped like you would imagine either, because they don't drop uber gear or anything.
Community- With 9 million subscribers, you are going to have a lot of asshats. But...you will also have a lot of mature people to play with. In every server I played on, there was several nice guilds to join that had nothing to do with hardcore raiding, PvP smack talking, or immature behavior in general. They aren't hard to find either. Just 5 minutes on the Guild recruitment channel or the forums will land yourself in a nice mature and respectful guild. General chat is the usual culprit of immature behavior and can be turned off. Nothing on general chat is worth hearing, especially if you have a guild. You have LFG channels and a great LFG tool to use if you want to find more people to group with, so general chat is not needed, which eliminates the majority of immature content you get in the game.
I can go on and on about what WoW did right, but I'd rather not to. Instead, I open myself for questions if you have any in particular.
As for EQ2, here is my problem with it.
It is hard to get into for one. Without a lively lower level community, the game feels empty and boring. In WoW, you never have a problem completing any group quests, even the lowr level ones, since new players are constantly coming to the game and old ones are constantly rerolling.
The economy is a wreck in EQ2. The same could be said for WoW, except that you don't need to rely on the community for anything other than grouping. Crafting is so easy in Wow, that you can gear yourself up and enough gear drops from mobs, that you don't have to craft even. In EQ2, it is recommended to pick up all the collectables and sell them. For me, this was unacceptable, since I didn't want to do anything other than kill to make money. I like crafting, but you can spend literally a day or more getting your skills up for your next suit of armor. That's another thing, there aren't enough armor skins in the game to keep things interesting, whereas in Wow, you have a new armor skin every few levels, which makes leveling your character fun. It is fun to get a new piece of gear every few levels that you can use.
The AA system can be fun, but also too much for newer people to get into. Newer people are already severely behind the power curb, and to add to it, have to learn the AA system and get those. The AA system was designed more for the veterans to have an added layer of uniquness to their characters. Not a bad thing, it's just one more obstacle you need to hurdle as a new player. WoW's talent system is easy to learn and to use. No obstacle there.
EQ2 is also heavily zoned and it has almost no direction in that game. Some people like this, but a lot of people don't. You don't need to be lead by the hand to each area, but some direction would be nice. EQ2 has so many quests in the starting zones that it feels utterly hopeless if you are the type that doesn't like to miss content and doesn't like to do content without a reward attached to it for your time. To top it off, the content is really boring. I didn't run across one quests at the early levels that wasn't about killing x amount of creatures, delivering this or that, or collecting this or that from a creature you kill. In Wow, there is some quests, that feel semi important in the early levels.
EQ2 just felt really boring, hard to get into, and lacking in the lower level community department. It is a good game, but not nearly as good as WoW. Again, we can compare points on this if you prefer in a seperate post. I know some EQ2 players will want to argue this. Keep in mind that if a game can't capture you within the first day, it is not worth playing. It shouldn't be a chore to get to good content. Good content should be there for all levels. Wow did this for me, but EQ2 didn't.
With that said, EQ2 had a better class system and more class diversity since it has so many classes. It also is friendly to rerolling, because there is so much content, that you can start a new character and do something new. In WOW, it takes about 30 levels to really get a feel of what your class is all about, because there are many staple abilities that don't show up till then. I quit Wow, because I would decide to reroll and would be forced to swallow the same content over and over again. For someone who only liked 3-4 races and 2-3 classes in the game, this was a game killer. Each race has their own starting area, but after level 30 or so, every race ends up doing the same quests. Like EQ2, WoW has a lot of boring quests, but even the unique and fun quests that WOW has sporadically as you level up, isn't enough to make you want to do the boring quests more than a couple of times.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
JK's response is exactly why I made this thread! You've answered alot of the questions I had & some I didn't think of before.
My wife & I really enjoy WoW & picked up the Retail Version for each of us this afternoon. I love that we can get on for an hour after the kids go to bed & still get a few quests done. I like the fact that it's a very casual & laid back atmosphere, where we can feel like we accomplished something ever after playing for only a little bit at a time. So far, we've run into several players who were more than happy to help us with a tough mob or point us in the right direction.
I can see us playing this for quite some time. My wife even said she was getting that nostalgic feeling we had in EQ1 so many years ago, grouping on Orc Hill, right outside of Crushbone.
Thanks,
I personally just resubbed to WoW myself and here is why. WoW provides the epic story, well balanced gameplay, and many things to do. I mean, just watch the intro to the Burning Crusade Expansion, or watch the Wrath of the Lich King trailor. Hell, there are many quests in WOW that has a nice story attached to it and bring up epic feelings from within you. I won't spoil anything for you and your wife, but be sure to explore all of the quests this game has to offer. This game also has events several times a year every year to mark real life holidays and also made up in-game holidays. Really adds atmosphere to the game.
I don't know about EQ2, but WoW is a great game for duoing, like you and your wife are doing. To top it off, you "will" meet great people and soon enough will have a steady 4-5 people to group with for the harder isntances that you and your wife cannot get through on your own. Just a suggestion, since most people tend to not read quest descriptions; gather all of the quests in the area you are in before you join a group with others. That way you have a chance to read the quests without feeling like you are inconveniencing anyone. If you don't plan to group with anyone, which a lot of couples don't, then take a quest 1-2 at a time. You are going to level a lot slower and will be retracing your steps more, but at least you will remember the quest description and will be better immersed into the story line you are completing. If you don't do this, you will end up getting to a quest in your journal, forgetting what the story is all about, and will have the feeling of just doing kill x for item y quests.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
This was sarcasm, I bet.
RL friends are these strange beings, who join your party on birthday/marriage, allowance for removal and so on.
Strangely enough, it isn't. I'm old so I've never had many peers who wanted to play the same games that i do (or even play games for that matter) so I've learned to play games for their content, and not for the people in them. I join guilds, participate actively, enjoy the good times, however once the game loses appeal I move on, regardless what my "friends" in the previous game chose to do.Its ok though, I've been a member of many a great guild and had adventures with many fine folks..... no regrets really....
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I've played EQ2 since it's release and was looking for something new so I DL'd the 10-day trial for WoW.
I started on the Farstrider RP server because I heard it was supposed to have one of the most mature WoW communites. Within 10 minutes of creating my new human warrior, the general chat channel was spammed by a couple of players trying to outdo each other in drawing parts of the female anatomy in text characters. Other players started yelling at them to stop, but of course that only encouraged them. I immediately logged out and uninstalled the trial.
I'm now happily back playing EQ2 and a little Vanguard on my SOE Station Pass. To me, community is EVERYTHING in an MMO and WoW doesn't have it. Vanguard's is a little elitist at times, but at least they're not so outrageously vulgar. EQ2's community is second to none, now that Auto Assault's mutant faction has gone to the great wasteland in the sky.
I also prefer EQ2's and Vanguard's more realistic color palettes. WoW's were too gaudy to be immersive for me.
But, everybody has different requirements for an MMO. Nine million people think WoW is D4 R0X0R5. I'm just glad it's there to keep the L337 D00D5 out of my MMOs.
IMO the quests seem a bit bleak for my needs at levels 36-50 (ie. leveling feels grindy) but 50+ gets better. Outland has a ton of quests and I still haven't completed them all.
dude try Immortals it owns i play and im a deity summoner
thre are 4 races and each race has different classes
http://www.immortalsusa.com
its in beta btw
We've been having a blast in WoW so far. Every night after the kids go to bed, we'll stay up for a couple hours & just do quests, & we're still leveling rather quickly.
I really like that there are quite a few quests out there, even though a few of them are "Kill X amount of X animal/mob", they let me explore new areas & there's still MUCH more I haven't seen yet.
Nothing on the market is a substitute for the old days but WoW is great fun for most people for a while (till you get to and get tired of endgame). If you want to try something new for a little while give WoW a shot. EQ2 is great but you've already played it.. if you really liked it go back, the new expansions have great content and the end-game is pretty good.
Your third option is LOTRO... If you dont want to return to EQ2 and really hate the cartoony graphics of WoW this could be worth a try.
Grymm
MMO addict in recovery!
EQ,SWG preCU,L2,EQ2,GW,CoH/CoV,V:SOH,
Aion,AoC,TR,WAR,EVE,BP,RIFT,WoW and others... no more!
I feel obliged to post in this thread, as an MMO player and indeed a WoW player I'm delighted the OP has discovered the wonders of Azeroth and what awaits said adventurers. Alot of people dislike WoW as has been said, this is for many reasons, both personal and non-personal but the main thing people who are currently playing WoW have to remember is that this is all fresh and new to the OP and his wife, don't you remember your first afternoon in Azeroth?
Well, I sure do. I remember Feb '05, standing outside my local game shop, drooling, salivating almost. The anticipation was killing me. Getting home (and luckily enough being in college at the time) was never such a long journey. Installation was never such a tedious prospect but my oh my, the feeling of being there, the feeling was never soooo good.
I remember my WoW days with pride, the early days were the best, thats for sure but everything I ever did, everything I ever accomplished in WoW is remember. My struggle to level 60, grinding the last five levels in Winterspring. The first few days of PvP, it's official launch. Camping Tanaris flight paths and the zerging in Hillsbrad, those are the things of legend - and for me my fondest MMO memories, even if WoW wasn't my first it certainly was the best expereince.
It really is very hard to try and describe how World of Warcraft was, ofcourse it may still be the same for newcomers but two/three years ago the magic that came into your life while you wandered and discovered the different lands and cultures of Azeroth is something that I and most Gamers alike are likely to remember for a long long time.
I won't blabber on I just wanted to wish the OP best of luck in your adventures, I for one wish I was you, rediscovering all the great things that WoW has to offer.
I played WoW since beta, darn those Dwarf Mages. I literally wtinessed it go from gold, to well.. dirt? I cancelled my account this morning in fact. It is fun at the start, but in the end it is endless farming. You have to do the same instances over and over for rep in order to gain access to the "Heroic" versions of it, far harder but with far better drops. I was having to farm for weeks in order to get my Whitemend Helmet made. At beggining levels it is easy to play it casually. After the Level 40 point, you find yourself wasting much more time. All in all, with transfers i've paid for and such, i've wasted a good thousand bucks on the game. Blizzard hardly cares for customers, they do what they can to make you want to stay "in the world of Azeroth". Then you start noticing all the idle gold sellers that are free to spam around the hot spots of the main cities, that's when it gets annoying. Making over one-million dollars a month, you'd think they'd be able to have people monitor very obvious problems like that and handle them. GM's are given little power, and are nothing but you speaking to an automated machine [figure of speach, maybe they are required to use all those pre-typed blocks of texts that should be someone communicating with you one on one about the issue you are reporting]. Basically, I loved the game, but I can't stand it anymore. Good luck with finding a good one, my fiance and I are attempting the same thing, except we didn't like WoW or EQII. Right now we are trying the DDO trial.
Speedhaak, do you still play now? I see your sig says you do, but the way you talk, it sounds like you have lost that spark that made you love WoW as much as you express within your post.
I know several people in real life that play that have level 70s & still love playing. I am also a notorious alt runner, so I'll have plenty of characters to play with, I'm sure.
I wouldn't suggest WoW. I have played that game for a very long time and the game seems to have taken a terrible turn. In my experiences if you dont have the right gear your not going anywhere. If you decide to go with WoW and plan on raiding, I would suggest you top out all your gear and ask the guild what spec they need and maybe they will let you raid.
If you don't plan on raiding and just wanna hang with friends and chill, then this is the game for you. You can spend alot of time questing , gaining gold and instancing and have alot of fun. Bad part comes when you want to raid. You'll start running into elitest attitudes.
The game runs really smooth and is very polished. It is a fun game but the raiding side of the game has gotten really specific and finite.
BobRoss
I'd go for WoW too - it truely is a great game, at least up to level 40ish. A bit family friendly maybe, but if playing with your wife I guess that's not a bad thing. Lotro looks nice too.
LOL WoW never runs out of qeusts... EVER
Tegamal,
I still play, now and then with my UD Rogue (the lvl 70 one) but for me the spark is just gone, the magic sucked dry after countless hours of raiding. You see thats the thing these days with WoW, the Raiding, people that have been playing since day one have basically been running the same recycled content over and over for almost two years. I just miss the good old days of exploring with my friends and progressing my character.
My first Rogue, A Night Elf was great. We all started on alliance (myself and my mates). Three of us rolled Night Elves, one rolled a Dwarf and four others rolled Humans. The fun ofcourse, was for myself and my two mates trying to make it off the Elven continent in an effort to meet up with our friends. Just trust me, your first character will be magical so enjoy it, even the second will be new. But once you get to the stage I'm at after 34 months of play and countless characters and 1000's of hours spent in end-game Dungeons, well lets just say the spark (as you put it) is gone.
However, I'll hold out until the end as most of my friends still play and with a new expansion on the horizon there is hope yet of the old days returning to me.
Yeah, it's nice because it has that fresh feeling that I've been missing since my old EQ days & the beginning of SWG. EQ2 never really gave me that.
God, what I would do to have that feeling again.... that virgin MMO experience, back in 1999.
i can tell you from personal experience..ive played both games.
if you are going to want to pvp there is no question, WoW is the place to go.
if you are only going to be interested in pve, either would be a great choice. if you want more details, please see my post ive made in the everquest2 forums and you will see many, many people that agree with everything ive said about pvp servers and the pvp in eq2. it is the biggest waste of time you could ever commit to a community that probably wont even be there in a year.
I've never been huge into PvP (mainly because I suck at it), but I might try it at a higher level. I will, however, raid on a regular basis.
If your going to raid , find a guild with alot of nice people. Some guild members I have been with got real cutthroat when it came to loot and it totally killed the fun and feeling of accomplishment. I would suggest alot of homework. I have even ask if I could hang in the ventrilo channel while they were raiding to hear reactions.
Have fun!
don't...
or go to wow if you not have enough time, the world and and quest let you go easily to max level in duo with lot of fun.
raid are the best part of wow but it require a lot of dedication... but the level grind is in itself a good experience of a well done and interresting MMORPG... sadly....
We joined a guild on Greymane called the Knights of Valor, mainly because I have RL friends there, but they are very nice people. One of the higher members even spent a couple hours with my wife while I was at work, helping her get linen for crafting. Couldn't ask for a better guild.