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Rudy Giuliani caught red-handed! Lying in an interview about 9/11.
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Watch him try and lie and point fingers. The interviewer reaches for some papers to prove Rudy is BSing....Rudy still tries to BS out of it. Then if that's not enough, we get interviews with the men who Rudy was pointing fingers at! lol.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
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Ron Paul still isn't going to win, get over it.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Is that you Sean Hannity?
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
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Ummm yeah....Rudy lied, every single person trying to get the nomination has lied, I bet about half of them should probably be locked up for crimes they've committed.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan
Is that you Sean Hannity?
No, just someone who hasn't completely let go of this little thing that we like to call reality.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Ahh so its ok to lie to the public and to be incompetent. But not okay to have a differing political view.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Ahh so its ok to lie to the public and to be incompetent. But not okay to have a differing political view.
It has nothing to do with that. Actually, AlexAmore and I have very similar political views in that we are both essentially libertarians (though I am a registered republican, my view on government is that it should serve the people, not be a monolithic business that controls everything that we do) Now, that said, I actually like a lot of things about Ron Paul, actually, his foreign policy is really the only thing that I strongly disagree with him on. I might even end up voting for the guy...That doesn't mean that I think he stands a legitimate shot at winning though.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Lol @ that website. If you're going to make a website like that you should at least try to make it less obvious...I mean, come on...the poll on the front page is " What was Rudy's biggest failure on 9/11?"
I'm not a Rudy supporter...but this is pretty pathetic Alexamore.
I think this fact that Rudy wasn't that effective on 9/11 is damaging for his campaign since that is is campaign.
Ahh so its ok to lie to the public and to be incompetent. But not okay to have a differing political view.
It has nothing to do with that. Actually, AlexAmore and I have very similar political views in that we are both essentially libertarians (though I am a registered republican, my view on government is that it should serve the people, not be a monolithic business that controls everything that we do) Now, that said, I actually like a lot of things about Ron Paul, actually, his foreign policy is really the only thing that I strongly disagree with him on. I might even end up voting for the guy...That doesn't mean that I think he stands a legitimate shot at winning though.
Well Ron Paul has been getting a lot of attention lately since the debate, especially because Huckabee got into it with Ron Paul and the war. A source from his campaign says they are getting many invitations from a lot of media. In fact Ron Paul will be on the O'reilly Factor this Monday, which should be interesting to say the least. Ron Paul has also been basically endorsed by Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough. He won the Fox Republican debate text vote with 33% (debate was viewed by 3.1 million), and you can't vote twice despite what Hannity and Colmes said to try and discredit RP. I could go on but my point is things are moving along.
You have to give Ron Paul credit. If guns were allowed onto planes for the pilots to carry then 9/11 wouldn't have happened (Box cutters vs guns...what do they say about bringing a knife to a gun fight?). No this isn't "hindsight is 20/20", because Ron Paul always held these fundamental 2nd amendment and limited government beliefs. So at least Ron Paul has a plan to stop any future terrorism from happening on commercial planes...let the airline business, with the most to lose, secure their plane safety.
So if 9/11 hadn't happened would you agree with Ron Paul's foreign policy?
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
Ad hominem
Ad hominem
Red HerringMy comment was not an ad hominem attack. If I had said "Alexamore is pathetic" that would have been ad hominem. But calling his posting of that biased link pathetic is not ad hominem. Please be sure you know what you're talking about before you post, and maybe next time you could try contributing instead of sniping from the sidelines.
Ahh so its ok to lie to the public and to be incompetent. But not okay to have a differing political view.
It has nothing to do with that. Actually, AlexAmore and I have very similar political views in that we are both essentially libertarians (though I am a registered republican, my view on government is that it should serve the people, not be a monolithic business that controls everything that we do) Now, that said, I actually like a lot of things about Ron Paul, actually, his foreign policy is really the only thing that I strongly disagree with him on. I might even end up voting for the guy...That doesn't mean that I think he stands a legitimate shot at winning though.
Well Ron Paul has been getting a lot of attention lately since the debate, especially because Huckabee got into it with Ron Paul and the war. A source from his campaign says they are getting many invitations from a lot of media. In fact Ron Paul will be on the O'reilly Factor this Monday, which should be interesting to say the least. Ron Paul has also been basically endorsed by Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough. He won the Fox Republican debate text vote with 33% (debate was viewed by 3.1 million), and you can't vote twice despite what Hannity and Colmes said to try and discredit RP. I could go on but my point is things are moving along.
You have to give Ron Paul credit. If guns were allowed onto planes for the pilots to carry then 9/11 wouldn't have happened (Box cutters vs guns...what do they say about bringing a knife to a gun fight?). No this isn't "hindsight is 20/20", because Ron Paul always held these fundamental 2nd amendment and limited government beliefs. So at least Ron Paul has a plan to stop any future terrorism from happening on commercial planes...let the airline business, with the most to lose, secure their plane safety.
So if 9/11 hadn't happened would you agree with Ron Paul's foreign policy?
I don't know...it's hard to answer hypothetical questions like that. It would be impossible for me to be able to judge what kind of threat exists in the world. I don't consider Ron Paul an isolationist, I just think that he's deluded about why we were attacked.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Okay, fair enough. Hypotheticals aren't fun.
At least read this man's resume, what Osama just said about him in his new released video, and then what he said on Larry King the other day.
Michael F. Scheuer is a 22-year CIA veteran. He served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004. Scheuer resigned from the CIA in 2004. He is currently a News Analyst for CBS News, as well as a Terrorism Analyst for the Jamestown Foundation's online publication Global Terrorism Analysis.
Scheuer is now known to be the anonymous author of both Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror, and the earlier anonymous work, Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America.
Although Scheuer was an analyst at the CIA, not a covert field agent, not much is known about his personal history. During a recent C-SPAN interview, he mentioned that he is a graduate of Canisius College. He also received a Ph.D. in British Empire - U.S.-Canada-U.K. Relations from the University of Manitoba. Scheuer currently makes radio and television appearances, and teaches a graduate-level course on Al-Qaeda at Georgetown University. He also participates in conferences on terrorism and national security issues, such as the New America Foundation's December 2004 conference, "Al Qaeda 2.0: Transnational Terrorism After 9/11."
In the 9/11 Commission Report, Scheuer is featured in Chapter 4, where his name is given only as "Mike". He is portrayed as occasionally frustrated with his superiors' failure to aggressively target bin Laden.
Osama bin Laden stated in his September 7, 2007 message:
"If you want to understand what's going on and if you would like to get to know some of the reasons for your losing the war against us, then read the book of Michael Scheuer."
Now go 9:00 into the Larry King show and listen to what Michael Scheuer says regarding Osama Bin Laden.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WgqUb8X6AA
When they repeated the show later on, they actually cut out the part i'm directing you too.
Here is a quote from Michael Scheuer regarding the latest released Osama tape.
"And what bin Laden said today was exactly what he's been saying for 12 years, that this war is not about elections or liberties, democracy or women in the workplace. It's about the impact of our policies in the Islamic world. And because we won't talk about that here in America, we're not adequately defended." - Scheuer on Larry King.
So who are you gonna believe? The former leading CIA Osama expert or the politicians and political pundits?
In case you didn't watch the video here is the quote:
"You know, there was a comment the other day about Mr. Paul marching to Al Qaeda's drummer. Well, the truth of the matter is that it's all of the Democrats and the Republicans except, perhaps, Mr. Paul and Mr. Kucinich, who are marching to Osama bin Laden's drum."
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
Ad hominem
Red HerringMy comment was not an ad hominem attack. If I had said "Alexamore is pathetic" that would have been ad hominem. But calling his posting of that biased link pathetic is not ad hominem. Please be sure you know what you're talking about before you post, and maybe next time you could try contributing instead of sniping from the sidelines.
If that is the case: Pot meet kettle...You are sniping and your attack is ad hominem. Not against alex but against the site, it is one in the same taken in context. You are essentially saying that because the site is biased the information presented by Alex is invalid. Therefore, ad hominen circumstantial. My post was not a disambiguation. Please be sure you know what you are talking about before you snipe.
Ad hominem
Red HerringMy comment was not an ad hominem attack. If I had said "Alexamore is pathetic" that would have been ad hominem. But calling his posting of that biased link pathetic is not ad hominem. Please be sure you know what you're talking about before you post, and maybe next time you could try contributing instead of sniping from the sidelines.
If that is the case: Pot meet kettle...You are sniping and your attack is ad hominem. Not against alex but against the site, it is one in the same taken in context. You are essentially saying that because the site is biased the information presented by Alex is invalid. Therefore, ad hominen circumstantial. My post was not a disambiguation. Please be sure you know what you are talking about before you snipe.
I did not say that the information presented was invalid. I really don't know or care. I simply was saying that, if he wanted to start a debate over the merits of Rudy Giuliani, he shouldn't have posted a website that is so biased. It would be like me starting a debate on Rush Limbaugh using Al Franken's book Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot as my only evidence.
I voted for Kerry, and I like Ron Paul.
Ron Paul isn't going to win.
Why?
Because Ron Paul opposes the Federal Reserve and the CFR.
Alan Greenspan has more control over America than any politician and I doubt he's going to let someone like Ron Paul even make it onto the ticket.