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a game with massive warfare?

Any game that is on the market that have massive warfare theme? i am not talking about only 40-50 people but over 500+, beside FFXI's Besieged which usually goes around 600-800 people in besieged on level 7+ any other MMORPG beats that?

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Lineage 2 has a few hundred people during a siege.

  • unherdninjaunherdninja Member Posts: 331

    RF online gets a couple hundred during there dayly battle events. any lvl can join.

  • NicoliNicoli Member Posts: 1,312

    EVE's fleet fights have been known to hit in excess of 2-3k people over 1 or 2 star systems

  • gman2100gman2100 Member Posts: 94

    Originally posted by Nicoli


    EVE's fleet fights have been known to hit in excess of 2-3k people over 1 or 2 star systems
    Yeah EVE definitely, although it takes about a month to a month and a half to truly learn the game and get prepared for pvp.  Alot of people dont understand this and automatically dismiss the game after the trial.

    EVE fleet fights are incedibly fun though

  • METALDRAG0NMETALDRAG0N Member Posts: 1,680

    I once oined in a trully epic fleet battle once. It was a 1,000 v 500 v 700 fight. Initial battle lasted a few hours and the battle for the inportant system [tactically it was] lasted over a month with smaller 150 v 150 fleets fighting each other all over the place.

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  • wjrasmussenwjrasmussen Member Posts: 1,493

    Maybe I am remembering wrong, so many game over the years.  Wasn't there an MMO in development a few years ago where players were going to fight to control areas of land and could build keeps and form guild/cities.  IIRC, there was mention of 1000/10000 areas to fight for control.  It isn't AoC or WAR.  Dang, I wish I had bookmarked it.

  • DaeclaDaecla Member Posts: 6

    Your thinking of Darkfall. The game that will never be released. If they ever finished it it would be awsome hopefully, but I have my reservations.

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  • Mcelroy55Mcelroy55 Member Posts: 16

    Planetside they have big battles all the time, and there is only PvP. I forgot how much people can be on one continent at once but it is pretty big.

  • wjrasmussenwjrasmussen Member Posts: 1,493
    Originally posted by Daecla


    Your thinking of Darkfall. The game that will never be released. If they ever finished it it would be awsome hopefully, but I have my reservations.

    At least we know why I can't remember this game! :P

  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    Lineage 2 has a lot of big battles, especially during sieges where possibly 300+ or 400+ people come to fight. I have also had smaller skirmishes in Lineage 2 that had like 50+ people battling that happens every now and then and then you get PvP with groups usually everyday since it is Open PvP.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by wjrasmussen


    Maybe I am remembering wrong, so many game over the years.  Wasn't there an MMO in development a few years ago where players were going to fight to control areas of land and could build keeps and form guild/cities.  IIRC, there was mention of 1000/10000 areas to fight for control.  It isn't AoC or WAR.  Dang, I wish I had bookmarked it.

    Maybe Dragon Empires?

  • wjrasmussenwjrasmussen Member Posts: 1,493
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by wjrasmussen


    Maybe I am remembering wrong, so many game over the years.  Wasn't there an MMO in development a few years ago where players were going to fight to control areas of land and could build keeps and form guild/cities.  IIRC, there was mention of 1000/10000 areas to fight for control.  It isn't AoC or WAR.  Dang, I wish I had bookmarked it.

    Maybe Dragon Empires?

    That could be it.  Sounds more like it than darkfall.

  • Nerf09Nerf09 Member CommonPosts: 2,953

     

    Originally posted by wrongfeifong


    Any game that is on the market that have massive warfare theme? i am not talking about only 40-50 people but over 500+, beside FFXI's Besieged which usually goes around 600-800 people in besieged on level 7+ any other MMORPG beats that?

     

    Not unless you live 5 miles away from the main server or have a direct optical connection to the main server, and you must have an extremely expensive computer.

    Planetside is the only game that did "Massive" correctly.  When approaching the player limit, friendly players blink out of existance first, so you can see all the enemies.  So if you can see a max of 64 players, then when all friendly players blink out then your in a battle of 128 players.  That happened often, sometimes too often, 3 years ago.

    I think WWIIONLINE didn't blink out friendlies first, I think they blinked out both enemies and friendlies proportionally.  This gets you killed too much, which I did not appreciate.  Im not exactly sure though.

  • gman2100gman2100 Member Posts: 94
    Originally posted by Nerf09


     
    Originally posted by wrongfeifong


    Any game that is on the market that have massive warfare theme? i am not talking about only 40-50 people but over 500+, beside FFXI's Besieged which usually goes around 600-800 people in besieged on level 7+ any other MMORPG beats that?

     

    Not unless you live 5 miles away from the main server or have a direct optical connection to the main server, and you must have an extremely expensive computer.

    Planetside is the only game that did "Massive" correctly.  When approaching the player limit, friendly players blink out of existance first, so you can see all the enemies.  So if you can see a max of 64 players, then when all friendly players blink out then your in a battle of 128 players.  That happened often, sometimes too often, 3 years ago.

    I think WWIIONLINE didn't blink out friendlies first, I think they blinked out both enemies and friendlies proportionally.  This gets you killed too much, which I did not appreciate.  Im not exactly sure though.



    .....um eve lol??  Some amazing fleet battles get going in eve, and I really dont know what people are talking about when they say eve has bad lag.  I live in chicago illinois, on a 2005 dell laptop, and I run it fine.

  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216

    Originally posted by wjrasmussen

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by wjrasmussen


    Maybe I am remembering wrong, so many game over the years.  Wasn't there an MMO in development a few years ago where players were going to fight to control areas of land and could build keeps and form guild/cities.  IIRC, there was mention of 1000/10000 areas to fight for control.  It isn't AoC or WAR.  Dang, I wish I had bookmarked it.

    Maybe Dragon Empires?

    That could be it.  Sounds more like it than darkfall.


    http://pc.gamezone.com/news/09_20_01_01_46PM.htm

    it sounsa interesting .... too bad it got cancelled in the US.

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  • DreathorDreathor Member Posts: 537

    Lineage2 has rather large castle sieges, but as far as I know that is very high level content- meaning it will take a lot of effort (grinding) to be able to participate in it.  http://www.lineage2.com/

    Knight Online has two massive instanced wars between the two factions twice a week. One type of war is for levels 30-50, and the other is for 50+. There is usually a different map each time, and the winning faction of the higher level war gets to invade the enemy's territory. (You can't access it otherwise). There are also castle sieges in which clans battle it out for control of a castle, which gives their faction and clan benefits etc. There is also a special PvP zone called   'Colony Zone'   There are huge battles here with hundreds of people, and it is ongoing. The PvP in this game is extremely fun and engaging, the one downside now is the game is populated mainly by Turkish people. (I played this 1-2 years ago.)   http://www.knightonlineworld.com/

    Eve Online - some people have already mentioned this - I'll just confirmed that fleet battles can be very large, and fun.

     

    If I think of any more - i'll edit this post. Hope this helped you

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  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216
    Originally posted by Dreathor


    Lineage2 has rather large castle sieges, but as far as I know that is very high level content- meaning it will take a lot of effort (grinding) to be able to participate in it.  http://www.lineage2.com/
    Knight Online has two massive instanced wars between the two factions twice a week. One type of war is for levels 30-50, and the other is for 50+. There is usually a different map each time, and the winning faction of the higher level war gets to invade the enemy's territory. (You can't access it otherwise). There are also castle sieges in which clans battle it out for control of a castle, which gives their faction and clan benefits etc. There is also a special PvP zone called   'Colony Zone'   There are huge battles here with hundreds of people, and it is ongoing. The PvP in this game is extremely fun and engaging, the one downside now is the game is populated mainly by Turkish people. (I played this 1-2 years ago.)   http://www.knightonlineworld.com/
    Eve Online - some people have already mentioned this - I'll just confirmed that fleet battles can be very large, and fun.
     
    If I think of any more - i'll edit this post. Hope this helped you

    ewww no. Knight online has the worst support, horrible graphics, and is infested with hackers. i would definetly stay away from that game.

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  • ImixZinzImixZinz Member CommonPosts: 553

    Originally posted by wrongfeifong


    Any game that is on the market that have massive warfare theme? i am not talking about only 40-50 people but over 500+, beside FFXI's Besieged which usually goes around 600-800 people in besieged on level 7+ any other MMORPG beats that?
    Can you post a screenshot or a video maybe of this FFXI besieged level 7+ ?

     

    I'v never heard of any MMO server supporting nearly 1000 people in the same area at the same time.

  • wrongfeifongwrongfeifong Member CommonPosts: 405

    I usually see 500-600 on my server, this is a sunday. I do not have windower...so i can't screen shot the "/sea" But graphic wise, i can't load all the players on my screen. XD

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  • RinicRinic Member Posts: 715

    FFXI does support 700 players (max) in one zone for Beseiged.

     

    Beseiged is where up to 700 Adventurers defend a city from one of three invading hordes of monsters.

    Usually a couple hundred monsters show up, and most of the time 700 players show.

    Problem is, only maybe the 20 closest players to your avatar appear on your screen, but all the monsters do.

  • MeltdownMeltdown Member UncommonPosts: 1,183

    RF Online or Lineage 2. RF Online just went F2P I believe. I played it on release and the wars were a lot of fun, although I'm not sure how much fun they are now with everyone high level (lowbies get smoked in the wars and really can't do any dmg)

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    The only 2 I know of where there is worthwhile mass PvP are L2 and EVE. The problem with these titles is the time sink/grind barriers. L2 having the worse of the two. I wouldn't recommend that p.o.s., RF online at all.

    DAoC use to have some good mass battles way back in the day but now its just small scale group level skirmishes. Its to bad, if any game had a decent mass PvP system, it was that one. But the western gamer let it die while they chase the "holy grail" of MMO gaming.

    The problem with MMO PvP is they want you to jump through to many hoops before you can really participate in anything worth doing. Play shooters if you want to actually PvP anyway and not play fantasy stats manager against other players.

  • gpettgpett Member Posts: 1,105

    If you can accept that Space Cowboy is a low budget asian made game, there is good gameplay to be had.  I personally have been in battles of hundreds of players per side.  Over a thousand players spread over many maps during mothership battles.  Space cowboy is an asian arcade style flight mmo.  Sure it has its issues but it has good gameplay and a skill element where levels do not mean as much as in most mmos.

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