Project Entropia

deathnbeyond · February 2004

I play the game now, its fun to play. But dont look at the "free" to actually play and have fun in the game. You will need to spend alot of money. If anyone is going to play this game, go with rangedweapons melee will get you killed. The skill system in this game is one of the best I have seen.

TaskyZZ · February 2004

Project Entropia sucks horribly... The only game where their bugs cost you money. I played it for a while, and bug after bug took gear, ammo, and money from me. And in the game, these things equate directly to REAL Money. And they refused to replace people lost stuff due to bugs.

I ended up doing a complete chargeback on my credit card of every penny i spent on their game.

Stay away, stay far away....

amappala · February 2004

I played this game a year or couple years ago. This is fun until I realize that the more I play, the more real money I need. The drops doesnt seem to pay for the damage done to my weapon and armors. I am an extreme player and plays for long hours everyday, and I notice the US$50 I sink into the the game doesnt last long.

I felt rip-offed for spending so much real money on a open beta game.

I guess if you are an extreme light player, this game would be very cheap.

The game may have change since I played, but I wont ever play this game bec I felt betrayed by their "free" which costed me too much money.

Brizahd · February 2004

the game is only free if you intend to just log on and chat, otherwise you'll have to sink some money into it. Well you could collect barrels of oil also but thats extremely slow.

2 of my friends and I decided to give the game a shot. 1 of my friends and I invested $10 each to get some equipment, the other refused and collected oil the whole time we played. The $10 didn't even last me a month. Every time you use your items, or get hit your items degrade. They degrade pretty fast to!

This game is alot like gambling cause you can get lucky and score some big loot that pays for everything you've done. My friend got a gun off a critter that was worth $13, where as I usually got garbage.

I say give it a try, and invest what is considered a normal monthly fee and see if you get your money's worth. I just didn't feel I got $10 worth of play from it.

Gorukha · February 2004

This is one of those crap games that have been in the testing phase for years and will continue to be in testing for a long time.

It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.

BrencelJ · July 2004

Hmm im playing this game for 4 months and i didnt invest in the game nothing and i have like 100 PEd that is 10$ and i can make thisg row will im shootin MOB's and mining so if u take time in this game u can get a lot of money but u need to be slow and paison ::::35:: ::::19::

So try it it is fun and good to :P

Umbrood · July 2004

Game in itself is pretty good, really good skill system, craft system as well is awesome, i would probably play this if it was monthly fee.

Point is, if you want to play the game like most gamers do, as a refuge from reality, then this is not it.

It cost easily like 5 other games combined monthly if you do not turn every ped inside out, everything you do you need to calculate into real life money, at least with my play style. Crafting initially will cost you like 20 boxes of any other game, and will never really get profitable unless you are in the absolute top in the game.

Having to calculate each shot you fire is beyond insane, something that probably would have been great fun under other circumstances made me cringe every time you missed, or a bugged creature you emptied 5 peds worth of ammo into just to have it begin strafing and be unshotable until it has regained all its HP just want to make you scream.

Also for thoose that are interested go to entropia-pioneers.com and check that forum, mindark is beyond reluctant to cash out any money you might make, a group of swedish players took it to the police, not sure if they ever got the cash. 6 months and beyond waiting are things I have heard of, and still I do not know if any money was ever cashed out in thoose cases.

A big shame cause the game is really good in my opinion, but if I wanted to count money and worry about them I would play RL-Offline instead.

It was a good idea but they 100% failed to include how most people want to play games when they introduced this system.

Be sure to read mindark bussiness plan wich is also on entropia pioneers, some pretty fun reading..

crock · July 2004

this game sounds like paradise for adena farmers)

must be released in Korea or China

AcidFlow · August 2004

I have played Project Entropia for about 6 months and I love it... yes it costs some money but only as much as you like it cost. The fact that it is free off monthly fees makes it grate. If you just want to take a brake and come back later there is no problem at all. And the upcoming Landgrab event excites me a lot. For all of you who haven't tried it go ahead. It's free to try and if you don't like it just leave it bee.

-AcidFlow

sugaRain · August 2004

this game is really sick is made just to take from u more and more money......

--- you cant have a skilled caracter till u dont spent something over 1000 $ ...but there are some crazy ppl who sepnd alooooot than 1 k.....there are some rare items u can sell with 3k $ each...but that is dropable only to the person who make a huge deposit to that time...

---lets say u want to hunt some animals....ok u take a gun . some bullets ( bullets arent free u have to buy them ) and gogogo to kil something...but u start to wonder "Damn , why i missed so much ? it is me i shot so bad or is lag or what ? " well could be one of those , but is same time u goota go something: doesnt matter how skilled u are , even u have target right front of you you CAN MISS ALOT , because that is the way game is made . to make u spend more and more money..

---more than 60-70% from people who have strong caracters ( i mean ppl who rull in this game ;-p) they are abusers , using exploits , bad credits , etc..

---if u read on entropia site : this game is difrrent cause u can deposit as money as u want .. and u also can withdraw money...well DONT believe that......more than half of ppl who tried to whitdraw some money .. well they try about last christmas and still no money back ;-p

--- in any job u can chose to make in this game ( hunting , mining , crafting) u MUSt spend alot of real money to get some skillz on your avatar and still u cant be sure after that u make a lil profit . so that sux ,

--- there are many many reasons who makes this game sux so bad .. i will post more another time , thanks...

nice

zensaber · August 2004

i quit because ther ewas no magic

AcidFlow · August 2004

Originally posted by sugaRain

---more than 60-70% from people who have strong caracters ( i mean ppl who rull in this game ;-p) they are abusers , using exploits , bad credits , etc..

Ok sugaRain. I have no idea where you got all that info about abusers, using exploits and bad credits. In my opinion you are flat out wrong! Yes there may be some abusers but all games have them and we are talking about maybe 1-2% max. The people who have strong characters are often people that has played the game for a long time.

Originally posted by sugaRain

--- you cant have a skilled caracter till u dont spent something over 1000 $ ...but there are some crazy ppl who sepnd alooooot than 1 k.....there are some rare items u can sell with 3k $ each...but that is dropable only to the person who make a huge deposit to that time...

I have spent less then 100$ during my time on project entropia (6 months). I wouldn't say that I'm the most skillfull but still I'm doing ok.
About the drops I must say that you are wrong again. The chance of getting a big drop or loot is not effected by the amount you have deposit.

I'm sorry that you have these bad feelings about Project Entropia. But I think a lot of them are coming form misinterpretation of the game.

-AcidFlow

Umbrood · August 2004

The fact that teaming is VERy duscouraged in this game makes it not fit to be called a mmorpg.

Cause teaming costs you more money then soloing, it might be possible to make end meet alone but if 2 or more players team you ARE going to loose a lot of money.

AcidFlow · August 2004

Originally posted by Umbrood
The fact that teaming is VERy duscouraged in this game makes it not fit to be called a mmorpg.
Cause teaming costs you more money then soloing, it might be possible to make end meet alone but if 2 or more players team you ARE going to loose a lot of money.

I'm not sure if I can agree with you on this. If you are more than one (in a team), yes the loot will be smaller because you have to divide it between everyone in the team but the costs of getting the loot is also smaller because you don't have to use as much ammo and the weapon doesn't decay as much so I would say you almost get better of teamhunting. That's my experience anyway.

-AcidFlow

Umbrood · August 2004

2 people will waste more money killing a monster then if either of them would kill it alone, not to mention loot is smaller. And I mean smaller before it is divided, I tried this a lot and the first 2 weeks of play I alternated between solo and teaming with a friend that started at the same time. When alone I could almost break even, and so could he. When we teamed loot to ammo waste ratio was a LOT higher. It ended that even though we both were online we came to play alone, to be able to play longer for the loot we got. He still plays now and then, always alone wereas I came to the conclusion that if teaming cost MORE money then solo then this should be a single player game and I promptly quit.

Perhaps this changes later on but it still means the game is not only noob unfriendly to a record breaking degree it also the most boring mmorpg wise. And as I said, it is not a bad game at all but the money thing is sooooo broken and such a bad idea. I do wish it was monthly pay, i would prolly play then.

TaskyZZ · August 2004

Project Entropia is the SUCK!!!

Anybody who is giving money away to this game is crazy...

Think of it this way. Money goes in from the players. For the company making the game, money has to come out. And lots of it. Then for any one person to profit big, many people have to lose small or a few people have to lose big. Either way, only a few are going to make any money and most people are going to lose money. And lose a lot.

TaskyZZ · August 2004

Excatly.

Not only that. If they need more money, all they have to do is tweak the "RobThePlayersRatio" variable from 1.05 to 1.15. Then loot drops just get worse and they make more money.

Total scam...

There is a reason why many credit card companies have classified this game as gambling and refuse to let you charge it to your card.

Umbrood · August 2004

Good point Tasky, the fact that most banks will not let you use credit c

TaskyZZ · August 2004

Originally posted by Umbrood

I dumped 30$ into it, played about 3 weeks, and I really turned every cent inside out, not a fun thing especially if you are a person turning dimes in RL to, who the hell want a game you play for amusement to be like that?

Right. They are just trying to make a game that you can pay more to have more fun. And that is fine, but there are better ways to go about doing it.

I put $25 into when I first started, played about 5 days til I got tired of the bugs just stealing my money. When I found out the developer was not going to reimburse the items I lost or the money I lost due to bugs, I got pissed and called Chase Manhattan (my credit card company at the time). I did a complete chargeback and the PE developers did not even try to contest it. Chargebacks on Internet charges are free!!!

AcidFlow · August 2004

To bad you all fell this way about the game. Well all I can say is that my stay in PE has been pleasant. Have not heard of any credit cards that doesn't now. (They had a problem a while ago but it is all sorted out.)
I don't expect to get a profit from what I put in just some fun gaming time. To think that you actually could profit form the game would be foolish. If I put in 10$ it will last me more than a month and I consider that a pretty low monthly fee.
About the all the bugs I can only agree, it is buggy but the last couple of VUs has been really good. The new graphicsengine sure was needed.

-AcidFlow

D_shandril · August 2004

The problem is not the PE itself but the people

most of the player that try Project entropia expect to make money out of it and that why the get disapointed

if you want to make money go play a game with a monthly fee and make a couple of character and resel them on EBay

the reason why i keep playing to this game is the chalenge( i tryed many other mmorpg like UO, DAOC, Second Life, ragnaork online , Lineage 2 ) and none was as chalenging as Project entropia
its often to easy to build a character in other mmorpg and after a couple of month you get bored

also in a certain way Project entropia is less time consuming for me since when i pay a montlhy fee i want to play for my money so i wont do enything else and only play so it worth that i pay for the game, in pe you dont have to pay and if you do the money you get from it is on your character and you spend it when you want like you want

sugaRain · August 2004

Originally posted by AcidFlow

Ok sugaRain. I have no idea where you got all that info about abusers, using exploits and bad credits. In my opinion you are flat out wrong! Yes there may be some abusers but all games have them and we are talking about maybe 1-2% max. The people who have strong characters are often people that has played the game for a long time.

I have spent less then 100$ during my time on project entropia (6 months). I wouldn't say that I'm the most skillfull but still I'm doing ok.
About the drops I must say that you are wrong again. The chance of getting a big drop or loot is not effected by the amount you have deposit.

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i know because i played this game , and i know people there...if u are a real player there than u must know stronger avatars in PE , right ? Well i think u still dont know many things , let me tell you some of this...bad credits ?-sure there are ..they use to get many avatars and help the main one ..perfect example is anda atreides , everbody know her( in fact is a HIM -i am sure) like a high skill avatar , but how he gets so high >? he use other second avatar , to deposit from bad credits , or friends from his ex-clan titans , like CRUSH ( i am sure u never know about him , he was banned from PE long time ago , when he was full of items like 4-5 shadow armours , 3-4 imp mk2) , etc and there are friends from same country , WELL THAT IS JUST AN A EXAMPLE

u deposit legal money ? not a problem to cheat in game , u can use very easy programs like auto-clickers to get faster skillz , and i am very sure everyone skill character use one of those programs..wanna example ? know jor from desert rangers ? is clan leader and all day he hunt and night when he go to sleep he use his training-clicker ON ( if u are interested i can even show where place on calypso do that )) ...) etc ,etc , etc

skilling with 100-200 $ deposit only ? NOT A CHANCE : look easy facts: lets say u wanna hunt some mobs 1-2 hours game , OK ? lets say u have an medium weapon like an mk2 with an amp 102 , lets say u want to hunt armax...OK ? to kill an aramx u need like 250-300 bullets (that mean 2,5-3 peds) but u inherit from a killed mob something like 80 pecs-1,5 peds . IN a 1-2 hours hunt u kill like 40-50 mobs and when final u make count and calculate ur money ..SUPRISE u didnt make even half of u have before..for everyone who didnt play PE what is important to know : for a real fun action in game , like a good hunting u pay like 150 peds (15 USD) and u get back from animal like 40-70peds (4-7USD) so i let u guess how dollars u lose just to play for a few hours this game

So as u see AcidFlow , i am pretty familiar with this game , its not just an missunderstonding

PS: abot HOF ( chance to get a bigger drop from animals )

u have same chances to win from loto , but also like in real life , there was person sooooooo lucky to win a mega-items , i know that .. but remeber this WILL NOT BE YOU

thanks a lot , thats all for now ... and sorry if i dont speak so good english

nice

Umbrood · August 2004

Originally posted by TaskyZZ
I put $25 into when I first started, played about 5 days til I got tired of the bugs just stealing my money. When I found out the developer was not going to reimburse the items I lost or the money I lost due to bugs, I got pissed and called Chase Manhattan (my credit card company at the time). I did a complete chargeback and the PE developers did not even try to contest it. Chargebacks on Internet charges are free!!!

OMG thats a friggin great idea, why not puy peds for say 100$, sell them of for say 80. (people buy peds outside of PE official, cause there are people selling that do not trust mindark to pay them, so there is unofficial peds floating around, and lots of it and should be no trouble selling):

Then chargeback and voil

AcidFlow · August 2004

Originally posted by sugaRain

skilling with 100-200 $ deposit only ? NOT A CHANCE : look easy facts: lets say u wanna hunt some mobs 1-2 hours game , OK ? lets say u have an medium weapon like an mk2 with an amp 102 , lets say u want to hunt armax...OK ? to kill an aramx u need like 250-300 bullets (that mean 2,5-3 peds) but u inherit from a killed mob something like 80 pecs-1,5 peds . IN a 1-2 hours hunt u kill like 40-50 mobs and when final u make count and calculate ur money ..SUPRISE u didnt make even half of u have before..for everyone who didnt play PE what is important to know : for a real fun action in game , like a good hunting u pay like 150 peds (15 USD) and u get back from animal like 40-70peds (4-7USD) so i let u guess how dollars u lose just to play for a few hours this game

Well I said that I wasn't the most skillfull. About the hunting ex. you brought up I wouldn't know cause I'm a miner and if I hunt it's smaller things than armax or in the armax area but mobs that are better for my skill. Anyway. If I go out mining a bring about 80 bombs (=80 ped) as average I get about 60 ped worth of minerals. If I then sell these at a price of 120% - 130% I will almost brake even (without the decay). This is if I mine at a spot that I know usually have deposits. If I just go around searching for new spots I can have a lossrate of 90% but thats life. Well with this type of return I can easy sustain with 10$ a month. I have to add that I don't play as much as others do.

Originally posted by D_shandril
The problem is not the PE itself but the peoplemost of the player that try Project entropia expect to make money out of it and that why the get disapointedif you want to make money go play a game with a monthly fee and make a couple of character and resel them on EBay the reason why i keep playing to this game is the chalenge( i tryed many other mmorpg like UO, DAOC, Second Life, ragnaork online , Lineage 2 ) and none was as chalenging as Project entropiaits often to easy to build a character in other mmorpg and after a couple of month you get boredalso in a certain way Project entropia is less time consuming for me since when i pay a montlhy fee i want to play for my money so i wont do enything else and only play so it worth that i pay for the game, in pe you dont have to pay and if you do the money you get from it is on your character and you spend it when you want like you want

Could not agree more!

-AcidFlow

sugaRain · August 2004

acidflow , u get 60 peds back from an mining with 80 bombs ? wow , where do u mine , bro ?

nice

AcidFlow · August 2004

Originally posted by sugaRain
acidflow , u get 60 peds back from an mining with 80 bombs ? wow , where do u mine , bro ? nice

Yes I would say about that.. Not that I really keep record but I would estimate that it would bee the average when I mine on location that I know have deposits. And do remember that the decay is not included in this calculation. I will try to keep some record and present them here. I might bee proven wrong.
Don't have time to play this weekend cause schools starts on Monday and a have to get everything reedy for the inspark (swedish, and is something like a welcome party for the the new student at the university) but I will try to get some gameing done next week. Till next time.

-AcidFlow

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