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PepperJack69
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Ok so ive seen a bunch of warhammer vids and im SUPER PUMPED!!! chaos marauder ftw? anyways! one thing that really concerned me is how the combat is and in the vids i saw it dident really show me. Will this games combat be locked? such as lineage 2 or RF online? where when you engage in combat ur character just stands there and attacks(que the final fantasy battle music plz). or will it be "real time" such as WoW where when fighting i can move around and stuff?(i know u all hate it when people use WoW as a refrence but only game i could find too get my point across srry).
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In one video I saw someone helped other guy killing a mob in the middle of combat. So I think it will be as you say "real time" like in WoW.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
You will be able to move around in combat, but with CD you won't be able to do the ring around the rosie game (very well I hope anyways) or run through people to get to their back like you can in WoW.
Bollocks!
Running through the people is the right thing. Because it makes even more disbalanced situations when you have one side outnumbered. And it will be like that because no one wants unbalanced game.
Also not showing your back to the enemy depends on your gaming/controlling skills, it's not a problem when you know how to play.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
Just a note - collision detection is only applicable in PvP battles. It does not apply to PvE or allies.
Conclusion-Collision detection in PvP=Good thing
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You've obviously never tried to play a caster class in PvP in WoW. Trust me it sucks. You cast a spell and they run through you and you try to follow them but the spell cancels because they are behind you. Now not only are you not doing damage but they are BEHIND you hitting you. Constantly going through you. Yes I know I should be at range. Ever consider the possibility of someone getting ambushed?Conclusion-Collision detection in PvP=Good thing
Didn't play melee class in wow, had only 4 60s there, lock, mage, druid and priest.
All of those classes have good things to keep range and as a caster I loved you can walk through. It is useful for a caster too.
As I said it depends on your control of character.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
Conclusion-Collision detection in PvP=Good thing
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Can we try to keep the WoW talk in the WoW forums? All this talk about their subpar PvP is giving me douche chills.
Why WoW's PvP is the same thing as WAR's PvP except in WAR everyone stands still because they cant move while their spamming all their cooldowns. We should just combine the two forums together to be honest. Look at all their videos it's always the same thing.
Are you sure? I think CD SHOULD also apply in PvE situations, hope im right.
People have had just about enough of assholes like yourself in our forum, get lost you ignorant one.. if you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you, life must be hard.
People have had just about enough of assholes like yourself in our forum, get lost you ignorant one.. if you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you, life must be hard.
I find it's most effective to flat out ignore annoying tools like that. They're only trying to elicit a negative response--otherwise they'd actually ground their arguments in something resembling fact. No use engaging someone with that limited mental capacity since they're just out to start arguments for argument's sake.
Can we try to keep the WoW talk in the WoW forums? All this talk about their subpar PvP is giving me douche chills.
OMG yes!
I mean, for the love of god, a couple posts into the thread and it devolves into yet-another lame-o discussion of the game-whose-name-we-do-not-utter.
If I wanted to discuss "that game," I would go to that forum.
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People have had just about enough of assholes like yourself in our forum, get lost you ignorant one.. if you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you, life must be hard.
If I'm so ignorant then explain the difference between the two with ACTUAL FACTS proving me wrong. Now that I would like to see because i'm positive you can't do it. Your just running your cocksucker because you think your the shit. So go ahead and prove me wrong.
People have had just about enough of assholes like yourself in our forum, get lost you ignorant one.. if you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you, life must be hard.
I find it's most effective to flat out ignore annoying tools like that. They're only trying to elicit a negative response--otherwise they'd actually ground their arguments in something resembling fact. No use engaging someone with that limited mental capacity since they're just out to start arguments for argument's sake.
I infact did state facts when I said in all the videos i've seen you stand there and spam cooldowns. So in a nutshell this game has DEVOLVED from WoW. So go think about that for a little bit and while your at it shove your fancy words up your ass I think your having trouble reading PLAIN English your not ready for fancy words yet.
Wait so your observations and opinions are FACTS now? I would probably spam cooldowns too if I only had 5 moves to choose from. You did know that most of the PvP videos were of low levels so they don't have all their skills yet right? And standing is actually a lot more realistic than WoWs. I don't know about you but I think fighting is 2 guys exchanging blows without a large amount a movement, not two guys jumping about like Mitch Gaylord doing floor exercises.
Bollocks!
Ok i have an exersise for everyone... take a pciture fom WoW and a picture for war of the "same" thing (Like an elf towns or elf warriors or mages, or a dwarf towns warriors or preists, or orcs, or human warriors, watever suits your fancy) put them becide (print them if you want) each other and take a hard long look at them, if you have galsses make sure you where them this does make a difference belive me I know this, now in everyones honest opinion how similer do they look, post your 2 or more pictures if you like.
When I did this exersise i did notice that yes they have there similerities but they also have a great many differences.
as for gameplay isent it all speculation at this point we both know that they have there similaritiers at this point and yes they have differences like CD on WARs part and gymnastics on WoWs.
now if you no, none what so ever, differeance between the two do one of these...
1: double check your pictures they may be from the same game.
2: schedual an appiontment with your optomitrist you may need glasses.
3: wipe your screen.
and that page/quote posted up there dident show for me so no idea what that proof was there.
Im Sorry! i guess this is my fault for using WoW as an example i just wanted too know the style of combat x.x and from what i hear it will be free action so once u enter combat u can move around instead of becoming a statue.
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Wait so your observations and opinions are FACTS now? I would probably spam cooldowns too if I only had 5 moves to choose from. You did know that most of the PvP videos were of low levels so they don't have all their skills yet right? And standing is actually a lot more realistic than WoWs. I don't know about you but I think fighting is 2 guys exchanging blows without a large amount a movement, not two guys jumping about like Mitch Gaylord doing floor exercises.
So after you got done disagreeing with my FACTS of how the game is played from videos and etc.. You are now saying that you like how the game is going to be played. I think the ignorant people on this forums are in fact you guys, who don't know what you want, not me who is stating facts. Btw, if you have 5 cooldowns to spam at an early level when you get a higher level don't you thinkg your going to get MORE skills to stand still and spam. The game isn't going to magically change when you hit a certain level and turn everyone into figure skaters who twirl around the world. So next time you have an intelligent comment think about it first it's probably not.
And this whole button / skill spamming is different from Spamlot er I mean GymnaticCraft oops sorry I mean Warcraft how? Last I looked at Warcraft's pvp all you have to do is just spam the one or two most powerful spells / skills of the one or two builds of particular classes that are of any worth and bingo you got 'skillz' how laughable is that. Look me I can hop around *jumps* and i stil magically hit stuff without any penalty to moving! Everyone do the bunny hop! Look I got mad dance battle skillz!!
Honestly who cares if the combat styles are similar, the real challenge is learning the best situations to actually use those skills and figuring out how you and your friends can use Collision Detection in formation instead of running around like Gymnastically able chickens with their heads cut off. To me the fact Warhammer offers the chance for stragedy and tactics along with formations that actually hold out until people start dying is what makes it really stand out. Warhammer offers the chance & benefit for even PUGS in pvp to work as an effective team the way WAR is supposed to work.
All for one and One for All. (not that people won't do their own thing if they want to but the ability to actually be an affective moving unit of a warmachine to me is just too cool).
In Greedcraft pvp is all about faction for yourself it in no way benefits or negatively affects the Horde or Alliance's position in their stand off battle(except for the what..couple of static lil mini town stops in the expansion area only). In Warhammer the more your SIDE wins & the more kills you and your team gets together affects the balance of the actual battle going on. Some skills and abilities only ever become available through morale thats built through the over all battle through things you do and things other players on your team too. Does Greedcraft do that? Pft NO!
If you love Greedcraft I mean GymnasticCraft er Warcraft then go play warcraft there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Ye, man, that's the question i'd like to get answer on too. All those EQ, Lineage, DAoK etc are totally crappy in comparison with WoW pvp gameplay. Staying still and casting/hitting each other is the last thing i'd like to see in WAR...
Ye, man, that's the question I'd like to get answer on too. All those EQ, Lineage, DAoK etc are totally crappy in comparison with WoW pvp gameplay. Staying still and casting/hitting each other is the last thing i'd like to see in WAR...
Well, I can see how being immobile sucks for you, but you have to consider that a little less movement would be a lot more tolerable for many people compared to WoW. In fact, I say piss on WoW. Sure I think it's fun, sure it is the largest MMO out there in terms of community, but I really don't care so much for WoW. I'd mostly play it for the WASD moving, because I can't find any other MMORPG that uses WASD moving. Clicking is irritating and somewhat tedious sometimes.That makes me ask, does WAR have WASD moving? someone tell me yes, I don't want to click-move anymore...
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Wait so your observations and opinions are FACTS now? I would probably spam cooldowns too if I only had 5 moves to choose from. You did know that most of the PvP videos were of low levels so they don't have all their skills yet right? And standing is actually a lot more realistic than WoWs. I don't know about you but I think fighting is 2 guys exchanging blows without a large amount a movement, not two guys jumping about like Mitch Gaylord doing floor exercises.
So after you got done disagreeing with my FACTS of how the game is played from videos and etc.. You are now saying that you like how the game is going to be played. I think the ignorant people on this forums are in fact you guys, who don't know what you want, not me who is stating facts. Btw, if you have 5 cooldowns to spam at an early level when you get a higher level don't you thinkg your going to get MORE skills to stand still and spam. The game isn't going to magically change when you hit a certain level and turn everyone into figure skaters who twirl around the world. So next time you have an intelligent comment think about it first it's probably not.
Dude, stop being so cocky. Why the hell are you even in this forum if you think the game is going to blow over in the end anyways? Do you HAVE to try and make people irritated?
Also, videos do not determine how similar the two are, actually playing the game does. There can be no "FACTS" as you so bluntly have to put it until you have played both games. And it has to be more then five minutes on WAR and going "Same thing! They are the same thing! I like cheese!". Give it time. Also, no one cares about WoW when they are here, they care about WAR. That's why it's the WAR forums.
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Admit your faults, you have them like everyone else. Admit your fears, and you can then overcome them. Admit your infatuations, and build your courage to confront them. Know what you hate, and build competence towards them. Live like this, and grow to be successful and happy.