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Psychology of WoW haters
Rushag
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Im reading posts and trying to understand psychological portrait of people who troll every single post saying "WoW sucks, you all idiots".
I was always thinking, game specific forums was created to let people who love game to share their opinions. I can understand sometimes people can post negative comments but looks like there are a lot of people spending all their free time waiting for single positive post just to start trolling.
Im trying to imagine myself doing the same but i just cant.... Lets imagine i hate anime.... Im going to anime forums and starting to troll... Damn its so boring... its unhealthy actually, there are much more things to do than visiting anime forums.
I suppose those trolls are most miserable people. Looks like its a club of losers who cant adapt to any community (online or offline) and they just picked up most successful merchandise to compensate their hate to themselves by offending others. I think it must be bannable actually.
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lol i see what you mean but to the peeps that hate wow try it for about 2 hours then trash it.
i was one of them that hated the game for a good while then a freind got me to try it and now i really like it.
but ya if u just go around all day to crap you have never played and trash it you might wanna try somthing else.
teh
MMO Games are an excellent way to meet and have fun with friends over the internet, from the comfort of your own home. They're also a great way to act out a completely different life from your own; I, for one, would much rather be killing dragons (even digital dragons) than say, surfing MySpace, watching TV, or whatever the hell else it is people do all day after work when they have no plans. Anyway, these MMO games cost quite a bit to upkeep, so a monthly fee is required. To justify this fee to the playerbase, new features are added occasionally, to make the game feel more 'alive,' and give players a reason to keep paying.
It's this monthly fee that causes rifts in a community of players who all enjoy MMO games. MMOs are expensive; I have spent well over $500 on my World of Warcraft subscription alone, not counting the price of the game, and the expansion. This is much too expensive a hobby to allow for more than one MMO subscription for most people. This means people who like MMO games are forced to choose one to stick with. There are exceptions, like SOE's Station Pass, I believe NC Soft has a similar deal, but the basic idea remains: You are likely to only play one MMO. This, effectively, makes this MMO "Your" game.
So, why hate Warcraft? My theory is that people hate Warcraft because it's popular -- wildly popular -- and 'their' game isn't. Remember the kids in high school, in all black clothes and eyeliner who didn't want to be thought of as "conformist" and "unoriginal"? Yes, that same mentality applies to the MMO scene.
Summed up, most people hate World of Warcraft because they are jealous. They wish the 8+ million Warcraft players would be playign their game instead.
Long-time vets who 'hate' the game because they got bored should look back and realize the months or even years they spent playing it were great, otherwise they wouldn't have stuck around. These people don't hate the game, they simply got bored with it. All games get boring after a while; I stopped playing Chrono Trigger for the SNES years ago, but that's not going to stop it from being pretty much the best console RPG ever in my opinion. No matter how you slice it, World of Warcraft is an excellent title.
Another problem people have is that right now, there is nothing better than World of Warcraft on the market for MMOs. This frustrates people who are dying for a breath of fresh air, but all of the other MMOs out at the moment just aren't nearly as fun as World of Warcraft. It's like going from dating a supermodel to only being able to pick up fat chicks. Sure, they're nice, and they're kind of fun, but it's not going to compare to previous experience, and you probably won't stay with them long. Other MMOs are unfamiliar, with less community, likely less features, and tend to be 'meaner' to players (experience debt, forced grouping, long grinds, etc.).
Regardless, to the WoW haters: 8+ million people play 'our' game. Probably under a million play 'yours' (Unelss you are a GW player, which is great; GW has no monthly fee, and therefore does not apply to this entire post). We're happy, you're not, therefore, it must be a problem with you.
For the record, I don't currently play World of Warcraft. Been spending my time checking out all of the non-MMO games I've been passing up for it for the last three years instead.
WoW sucks, you're all idiots.
Seriously though, I played WoW for a little over a year, at the behest of some friends who were also playing. At first I didn't like it, too cartooney, too linear, just a headache. You have to understand, I came from the school of SWG and UO, so I'm used to, and prefer, sandbox style games.
That being said, towards the end of my time in WoW, I came to hate it. My reasons for such?
It's too cartooney, too linear, and raiding/pvping for gear gave me a headache.
I think ultimately people trash games, or anything really, because they have a skewed perception of the reality of the game in question. I agree, it's very unhealthy to come on a message board and troll every post with "omg WoW is teh suxX0rz", but what I think you're missing out on, is that these kids...and let's be honest, they are kids for the most part....these kids, are the ones who have to play Runescape or some other free2play mmo because they either don't have the money to pay a monthly fee, or mommy and daddy won't pay for it for them.
For what it's worth, when I was playing WoW, I got very into it after the first couple of weeks, I leveled my first toon ( a mage ) to 60 in under a month, and my second to 60 in just under three weeks. When TBC came out, I got a 60 rogue up to 66 in less than two weeks, and at that point, I got sick to death of it and gave up. I realized that ultimately, the expansion changed nothing, really. Yeah, it added 10 levels, yeah it added new raids and zones, but ultimately, I was going to find myself grinding away at raid encounters trying to get gear. So for me, the decision was to walk away.
Anyone who asks me about WoW now, I'll tell them the truth. It has it's good points, but for the most part, it's a very shallow, lifeless game.
That's just my opinion, take it as you will.
Edited to add;
When I say lifeless, I'm not even trying to imply that there aren't any players, lol. That would be nutty of me.
What I mean is there is no depth to it, it's the same thing, for 70 levels. Do quests, go here, talk to this guy, come back. Sometimes it 'go here, kill these, and come back'.
If that's your thing, great, I'm happy for you, enjoy it and don't sweat what other people think. Its just not for me.
"$OE - We Put The "FU" in Fun."
I totally agree with Thrage he has summerized it excellently in his post.
There is no other MMORPG out there at the moment that can even get close to WoW.
And you must be some sort of retard to play a game for 2 years and then say you hate it!
I hate it and I defently got over the 2 hours. (god knows how I manage to invest so many hours) however I am not all that into grinding. Also I do not troll forums to state I hate em. Do reply once in a while though to thread like this, but usaly stay clear of them (If there in the "last posted" list in the home page I might click on them).
However there Psychology profile would be the same as the lover who troll the forums.
I played wow for a long time as well, and I do not Hate the game it was fun while it lasted for me. but I really hate to level so I was glad to get to 60 then bc came out I was like ok 10 levs I got like 4 of them then left for 3 months due to hating having to level again, then I came back after the break and it was fun again for a while and I finally hit 70. Then I hear about the lich king expansion and for some reason I totally loose all interest in the game right then and there. Wow does have the best balance of all aspects atm, but even thou wow was fun for a while it never had the feel to it that dark age of camelot had for me, and the pvp in wow never even came close to being as good. So now I am either going to go back to daoc or wait on war, not sure yet. So is WoW a bad game, no. A lot of people just loose interest in games when they add to the level cap, i used to play everquest and when they started to add more and more levs more and more people left the game, seems to be the same with wow. My advice for gaming companies is add more content but not levels.
very well said thrage
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I agree with what Sansdixon says, he kinda laid it out a little more clearly than I did.
The main problem with WoW, is that after you get one character to level 70, if you decide you want to try a different class, you can easily start a brand new character and go from there.In my opinion, a player should have a reputation to protect in an MMO, and I can give you an example.
In Star Wars Galaxies, back in the day, you were allowed ONE character per server, and that worked out great, I think. You could switch professions at any time, don't like pistols, ok, try rifles, etc etc. Thing is though, that most players became very attached to their one character, and just deleting him to make a new name wouldn't be beneficial, especially if you were doing the jedi grind.
Now of course when people started unlocking Jedi, they did get an alt slot, and that was ok, but two characters per server is a lot better than 8 or 10 or whatever it is in WoW.
Example, JoeNoob in WoW is being an asshat in general chat in IF, ok, I put him on ignore.
Next day, JoeNoob decides he doesn't want to piss people off anymore, so he makes BobtheBuilder as an alt, and can rather quickly grind it up, and boom, no one knows that this annoying person is the same one they just ignored a few days ago.
Totally ruins the immersion, I think.
When you have a reputation to protect, you are less apt to be a total jackass to the players around you, lest you get shunned.
I know that doesn't exactly relate to the topic directly, but I think thats a problem that a lot of people have with WoW. Too many immature people playing, too much time involved to become well geared, and it creates a balance issue. With 8 million players (or w/e the number is now), you have a higher percentage of idiots.
At least with the less populated games, the idiocy isn't as pronounced.
"$OE - We Put The "FU" in Fun."
I stopped reading right there.
Thrage you hit it right in the target, very good post.
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I stopped reading right there.
Thrage you hit it right in the target, very good post.
Guess you don't understand sarcasm
"$OE - We Put The "FU" in Fun."
LOL i dont understand the obseviness of people who read posts and then write posts about people writing posts.
playing eq2 and two worlds
I played WoW for a while, liked it, got bored and moved on. Whilst I no longer play WoW, I don't feel the urge to come on the forum and post negative things.
Its not just WoW though, loads of fanboi try and ruin other games, most of the time these people have either not played the game or played the beta.
Cant see the point myself, obviously too bored playing their "ideal game" or no game meets their standards.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
I dont hate WoW but I definitly dont like it. It had a couple strong points but the fact is MMO's are generally about the end game. Be it PvP, Raiding, Crafting, Gear, Rep ect. WoW just didnt do it for me. Raiding for hours on end for gear just to PvP on a verry basic level (just my opinion) didnt cut it for me. PvP to me should be skill based not gear based. Again just my opinion on WoW PvP. MANY people like WoW and thats obvious. I'm just not one of them. However I am also not going to be like the OP mentions and just say WoW blows. Just like any MMO. If your interested give it a shot. 99% of them have free trials now or are f2p. Find what game you like and leave it at that, not every game is going to be for everyone.
Some people hate popular things. WoW is popular and it is also popular to hate it, at least on these forums.
I stumble with this post by chance ( it was on the ticker on the home page) and I started reading. I played WoW for about 2 years and I did enjoy the game a lot, but I ended up getting sick of it. nothing to do with the graphics or gameplay which I think are adecaute and good for a game that old. But the main problems with the game are the really annoying and boring rep grinds or material grinds... who can say they never encountered a player that after killing 10 mobs to get to an area with crystals or a nether egg comes and steals everything when you are in the last 2 mobs, or needing yet more primal air or fire and have to grind day after day on the elemental plateau to get them while fighting with those players that would steal your kill.
Another big problem with the game is the way raids are made and how they are designed to work, having to go 30 times to Karazhan to get this 1 drop get boring and instead of being fun it turns into work.. and the biggest issue with that is that the guild leaders that want to get as specific item will always be doing the raids while other guildies get bumped out of the raid. It seems that raiding guilds (except for a few) are made to benefit a couple, while using others to get to that goal and they bump others when they don't need them. I know this doesn't happen in all guilds, but is is very common.
The worst thing on WoW sadly, is what the community is turning into, just read the general chat or the forums... you can only see flames and spams, there are very good people in the game, but the bad ones make so much noise that it seems that the outnumber the good ones.
The news from the expansion was a total turnoff, with the big focus on items, after getting all geared up after raids and crafting, I just don't have any will to do that all over again when the nice gear I had will be just as good as reward greens. so, I don't feel like getting new gear since it will be trash in a few months and I don't feel like grinding again for new gear... and that is the bottom line that a lot that needs to be done in the game seems more like a chore now than a fun thing to do and I don't want to feel I HAVE to play and do certain things.
The success of the game is also what makes people hate it... a lot of people know the game and a lot of people had contact with the annoying players and generalize that the whole community is like that.
I don't hate the game, I just got bored of it and the overall community.
i don't understand why the wow haters actually hate wow. I dont like wow. Ok i tried it and I dont like wow. But I dont hate it, and i dont need to hate wow or wow players. Why someone needs to hate wow or wow players? Maybe they just need to get a real life with real problems, or they have a big and red envy on their heart cose their loved game is not as big and famous than wow.
IMO hate is bad, a bad feeling on your head will always make you unhappy, think about it, wow haters.
Do you really believe this? Do you think the people that dislike WoW and play something else are jealous that their game doesnt have 8 milion subscribers? Dear god.
REALITY CHECK
I'm tired of posting constantly about WHY I hate WoW, just take a look at my history for an explanation and other WoW haters' I think MMORPG.com should bloody ban people who constantly praise a game without giving any reasons as well as hating it, because they seem to do it a lot more than the 'haters' use your damn head. Psychology of WoW haters? Sorry but we're not all losers here, we're just ordinary people who got fucked over by so many companies that we just can't take it anymore and are intent on posting our thoughts on a forum that allows us to instead of an official forum where we'd get banned for saying anything along the lines of "Sorry, but I don't think this game is right in this area", I very rarely respond to posts like this unless they seriously tick me off, but time and time again I see WoW players acting all high and mightily arrogant that they think they can flame a large portion of the MMORPG community, if the game is doing so well then why the hell should you care about the haters here? Let us post our rants on our forums and you can bitch about us as much as you like on your own official forums where you practically get encouraged to do it from blizzard.
As far as I'm concerned just from the way the OP decided to post he was trying to vent out his frustration against WoW haters for no reason, it's sad really, just sad.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Its simple. The WOW haters love game X. It doesn't get hype. It doesn't get good reviews. It doesn't have many people who enjoy it. Lots of people love WOW. The hater doesn't understand why. They're jealous of that happiness. They want people to like their game the way people like WOW. SO, much like people who are nonconformists, doing things to make sure EVERYONE around them is aware of how different they are, they do the closest thing, Its an immature act to get attention. They can't dress up in black, get loads of tats/peircings, ect on a forum. So they do the only thing they can do. They spout hate, excuses and lies and make fun of the people who don't agree with them. Simple PSY 101.
Jealous my game doesnt get good reviews and is not played by 8 milion? Okay maybe some portion, but majority as the OP stated? Thats crap. Can you please post your next reply a bit shorter and easier to read by the way.
REALITY CHECK
The reason I left wow after playing only for 4 months is simply I do not like the game, I dont hate it,I do not care about it,I am not jelous of the people that play that game(in that case I would never canceled the game) So things are simple people choose not to play wow for the only reason and that is we dont like the game.
Wow's player base is not 8 million,that are sold copies,playerbase is somwere between 500 000 - 700 000 active accounts.
I think people don't try other MMO's because of the high "barriers to entry." Let me explain. First, you have to decide to give up on that max-level night-elf you are carrying around and start over with a level 1. Next, you have to convince a major portion of your guild or group of friends to do the same. I could stop right there. It's a tall order at that point.
But there is more. You have to learn new gameplay and a new crafting, questing, Min/Max system. Finally, we come back to psycology again. You feel like you are already behind the pre-order / beta test people and in an old game, you are WAY behind everyone.
I think it is an over simplification to say, "people don't leave WoW because every other game is teh sux."
its funny how many people take the word hate for what it is in forums. i mean do people really mean hate? or do they really mean " i dont like it at all" ? i would think its more the latter. myself i played wow for 12 months. i dont like it now. simple as that i got bored of it but played for longer than i should as there was nothing else to play that got my attention. i dont hate wow at all its a very polished game...just doesnt offer enough to keep me interested that's all. but as for all this psychology crap, come on people the very people posting about the haters are making it look like they have a deep pyschological problem with the haters! i mean how ironic does this seem? to me its simple, you all enjoy arguing about this subject thats why you will post again and again on the same subject
when this one runs dry well all find something else to disagree about....if not well then hell lets make something up
I still don't understand why do wow-fanboys call wow-haters jealous. Criticism is not jealousy. Is it just a problem that you don't want to read posts that criticize WoW?
REALITY CHECK
I played WoW for a very, very long time.
I've raided for a very, very long time.
I don't hate it, in fact I used to love it.
For me, the only times I really didn't enjoy what I was doing was when I had to do it alone. When I was without a guild, when none of my friends were online, etc.
When friends were online we'd chat and do stupid things, it was a blast. Even running the same instance for the 20th time was still fun just because of the people I played with. We'd do I'll kinds of nutty stuff like misdirect onto the healer and pull entire rooms... Yeah, sometimes we'd wipe and be cursing each other's name, but it was fun.
Once I got really serious into raiding again in TBC, for a while it was great. I was seeing new content, downing all kinds of bosses, getting really great gear... It was a great Guild with great friends....
But as always, the guild got too big. We'd get stuck at a boss for a couple of weeks. We'd see sub-par performance from the same people. We'd see officers playing favorites. All the drama.
It was then I realized that I was leaving my job to go home and log into my second job. It was nice to be needed and feel important, and to be respected and revered by others... but what was the cost?
I realized I was stuck and I needed to get out. So I used my moving into a new place as an excuse to stop playing for a week.
I haven't been back since and it feels great.
Yeah, I still play MMOs but very casually. I still play other games like Halo, but a lot more casually. And yes, I'm very hyped for WAR and very interested in TcoS but I NEVER want to get to the point I was at in WoW.
So, to answer the original question...
The Psychology of WoW haters?
I think either you've played it too much and are too burned out or you never got into it and can't see what all the fuss is about. Everyone who is comfortably in the middle of those two extremes is probably still playing WoW and really enjoying it.
just my 2 cents and story