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TES geek can't find his perfect mmorpg, plz help
sensy76
Member Posts: 13
I have been crazy about The elder scrolls series since daggerfall. Yes I'm over 30 
Not to mention the super insane quality of Oblivion. I did some mmorpg like
Rappelz: grinding and bad camera although pet system had somehing. No eye for detail at all.
Maple Story; not an rpg at all... although the community made it addictive - many many nice girls.
GuildWars: super skill system, nice story line. Being taken with the story through all the lands. But once I completed the quests in a week I felt the game ended.
Wow: So overhyped. Tried it for 2 weeks and I started grinding to be able to complete my quests. So I didn't go in subscription. Blizzard, te makers of starcraft. I had expected more.
AO: perfect customizeable user interface, being able to write your own scripts to control pets and such was much fun but the quests bots were so lame.I didn't discover a story line, and I also lacked to be taken through an everchanging world. You could stay for months doing quests in the first town.
I'd like a game that takes me by the hand and leads me through all the maps of the game by various quests. Where no grinding is needed. Complexity is an asset, also elaborated crafting. Isn't there a game like morrowwind/oblivion in the mmorpg world? I have great pc, supherb connection so I'd like to use it 
thnx for all suggestions,
Sens
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You should give DDO a try.
If you don't mind a sandbox sci-fi MMO then try Eve. Skills level up in real time that doesn't require grinding. They level up in real time even when logged off. Lots of things to craft and PvP is decent but to really appreciate Eve you need to join a corporation and engage in large PvP battles and corporate warfare and trading. Its has dynamic PvP so there is no linear path to follow. Look it up on this site.
You may want to try LOTRO. I haven't played but I heard its community is good. Really not much excitement IMO in the MMO world. Personally, I'm waiting for AoC, WAR, and POTBS.
Complexity+excelent crafting+good community ? Try Everquest 2 since you obviously like fantasy.
I typically bash the game, but yeah, I kind of agree here.
/begin opinionated ramble/
@ OP : DDO is not open ended like the Elder Scrolls series, but it does lead you through a story that takes you from one location to the next. It's a little more open ended than Gulid Wars in that you can choose where to go next, but it's still remarkably similar.
The problem is that it can become like Guild Wars in that once you complete it the only thing left to do is to go through the same locations again. Unlike GW, DDO requires a monthly fee.
Eve is does not lead you through the game with a story. At all. Ever (unless you count your agent, the Eve version of AO's mission terminals, as "story"). You're dumped into your space craft, given a tutorial, and that's it. This is similar to the Elder Scrolls, but it can become mind numbingly boring. Then again, others love the game.
EQ2 is a solid fantasy mmorpg with good visuals and lots of things to do, but the vast majority of those activities are your typical "kill 10 monsters" or "bring me 20 toenail" kind of things. Your character may start out by going through some really fun quests, which is why I always pick up the newest expansion, but you're dumped (rather suddenly) into the standard mmorpg monotony (which is why I always cancel again at the end of the month
).
Unfortunately no MMO developer seems to have the Elder Scrolls frame of mind. Eve is about the closest that I've seen, but IMO that game has always been like watching paint dry regardless of the effort that I've made to get into it.
Good luck.
Anyway if you want epic story line that guide you throught the whole game you won't do wrong with Lord of the Rings online. It's the most linear MMORPG out there I believe. If you want more arena-daggerfall nonlinear style you should try Vanguard. That game just throw you into ocean and you have to learn to swim.
REALITY CHECK
I am also a Morrowind / Oblivion fan ... although I feel Oblivion, as it was released, was unplayable. Thanks to the modding community, I finally got to experience the game.
In any case - the MMO scene is stagnant now. Wait until the end of October and pick up The Witcher. It should keep you busy for a while. Also - check out The Chronicles of Spellborn. It is the only MMO that I am really looking forward to seeing released, and is a lot like Morrowind / Oblivion.
Take your time, do some research. The MMOs on the market now are all bland.
I agree on the opinions on the current options on the market, mostly, though Ryzom is rather fun. I'd wait for a bit and see what crawls out into stores, in the future.
Lord of the rings online is great if you like story and going through all of the world step by step. Its very quest oriented though. I enjoyed the hell out of it for 2 months.... but lack of good pvp and forced questing... wasnt for me.
Thnx for your oppinions.
I have to agree that oblivion was linear compared to for example daggerfall
And it ruined the gameplay abit - I had so much fun levitating over the mountains, or defeating warriors out of the air- but still made the best rpg game of last years imo.
I was surprised seeing DDO. Was the only mmorpg I didn't read about and it seemed a very nice variation. How it's described makes me think of NWN, which was a fun game to play. But do you HAVE to use headsets in that game? Never gamed like that before and I think I'd disturb my wife :P
For LOTR, I've a gut feeeling, the quests are all like fedex quest... so you could just as well grind. Although the graphics seem amazing yet I feel the game will be too limited
EQ2 seems a great game but perhaps, I'm too late to join with all those expansions. Although EQ2 fascinates me.
EVE seems sth new in concept and I'll certainly try it out.
Vanguard, I read the community is running away.
Btw spellborn looks great indeed.
Give EQ2 or LOTR a try
Torrential
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
Have to agree, All the MMO's on the market are like turning on the TV, lots of mindless schlock but not alot of quality engaging content.
I've played in a couple of Betas of new games and they are just more of the same.
Nobody seems to be willing to take a risk to come out with a really great game. The companies I have seen are all taking the semi-safe route of using things that are tried and tested in their MMO's as the chance they will loose money is greatly reduced.
Looked at the site for Spellborn too. Hmm... Warriors, Casters and Rogues, Arena based PvP, level grinding. Nice graphics, but overall looks like very other MMO out there.
Myself I'd like to see a pre Trammel/Felucca Ultima Online with 3d graphics instead of the tired 2D stuff they still have running. It was and IMO still is the best ruleset and gameplay of any MMO.
I play EQ2 and is a good game, but, I wish someone make a The elder scrolls Online.
Don't expect NWN from DDO. DDO is much, much more like Guild Wars than NWN. The reason why I generally bash Dungeons & Dragons Online is because it's D&D in name only. In practice it's basically a 3D Diablo (right down to the interface).
However, if you set aside my beef over how badly it butchers (slaughters, murders, and otherwise disembowels) D&D then it's a decent enough game for what it is. For awhile anyway.
You get plenty of quests to do and they're not all fedex-like. There are also "secret areas" in many of the dungeons. Unfortunately the majority of players know where they're at and (in my experience) will rush through the areas and expect you to rush through with them. That tends to kill the feeling of discovery.
Are headsets forced? Yes and no. Technically you don't have to use one. You can still run the game without it, and when I played I did meet some folks who were kosher with partying with people who do not have a headset. On the other hand, there are players who have said that they were refused groups because they didn't have a headset.
As far as EQ2 is concerned I would think that it's not too late to join. You can play the majority of the game solo if you wish, but you could probably find others to party with. Many folks in EQ2 seem to like making alts. The problem with EQ2 is that much of it is, in fact, fedex.
I have no opinion of LoTRO.
My $1 worth of thoughts. :-P
~Mysk
My guts say your thoughts are certainly worth the $1
But 2D... some eye candy plz 
I wonder what mmorpg you do totally recommend.
Wankel: Ultima...
now a nostalgic feeling comes up of ultima underworld series or eye of the beholder
Most of the older games have very little hand holding, there usually is a storyline but it is not forced on you.
AO For example has a very intricate storyline, one I used indulge myslef into, but fact is that most players have no idea what is beyond "omni VS clan".
EVE nowadays at least have a tutorial that helps you out a lot in your first steps, fairly well done and you no longer get dropped in space with no guidance what so ever.
After that though EVE is pretty brutal in its "off hand" approach.
As many have said, EQ2 migth be what you are looking for, it do have a lot of "fed-ex" quests and what not, but it also have storyline quests, quest archs and above all heritage quests that not only takes you all over the world but also gives you a very nice story to read.
To a large degree it guides you from the noob area, out of the city suburbs into Antonica or commonlands, then on to Nektulos or Thunderings steppes, from there on you have Zek or Enchanted lands, both fairly similar in level, but very different in appearance.
Then there is Feerott with its thick djungles, old temples and even older evils, closely followed by Everfrost and lavastorm wich was the last real playfields in the original release.
And yes they both appear as they sound..
The last two had one instance each as well for the end game, Permafrost and Soluseks eye.
Solusek is still one of the most awe inspring places ive been to yet in any computer game.
And, as I said this is still only the original release, few people go to these places anymore, but that makes them even more fun to traverse, especially if you have not been there before.
With the Deserts of Flames, Kingdom of skies, Echos of Faydwer and now soon to come kunark expansion the only real flaw eq2 has is it insane mass of content, so much that you are unlikely to be able to explore it all, wich is a shame really.
Get the hang of it and then cherry pick, do the Heritage and Hallmark quests, oh and the collection quests, wich are like pure binary heroin if you ask me.
That alone will probably take you to 70 and then some, with a fairly deep knowledge of norrath, its gods and places.
Man, now I worked myself into an eq2 frenzy, I am going to go and resub..
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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Its not out but www.darkfallonline.com
I wonder what mmorpg you do totally recommend.
Wankel: Ultima...
But 2D... some eye candy plz 
now a nostalgic feeling comes up of ultima underworld series or eye of the beholder
Thanks for the kind words. :-)
To be honest I agree completely with everyone else here. The mmorpg genre is very stagnant at the moment and I find it difficult to get excited about any of them. I wish that weren't the case, but that's just the big bucket of blah that we're all floating in at the moment.
These days I am not subscribed to any mmo. I'm not much help I suppose.
~Mysk
Lil bow to all my fellow rpg players,
I'm gratefull for all your comments. This www.mmorpg.com contains a great community who knows what they are talking about. Respect!
You guys really helped me out. Perhaps one day we'll fight side by side. I'd be looking forward to it. By this mmorpg.com is bookmarked.
sens