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Tabula Rasa Report

HorkathaneHorkathane Member Posts: 380

Ok, there are allot of people smoking crack on this forum for sure man, this game is not bad at all in fact:

UI - Cannot be beat the most polished UI to date blows everything away!

Immersion - Full on! Game keeps you feeling the threat like a real war is going on!

Gameplay - FUN FUN FUN, ok why do we play games?

Combat - Typical mmo style but at least you can take cover and move around creating tactical play...cant do that in wow...

Gear/Crafting - Way cool, sure crafting is not a pass or fail challenge but its sure damn fun

Cinematic/Story- OMFG The #1 Cinematic of all time hands down! Story? Cripes! it blows you outta your seat very original ideals and concepts!!!!!

Controls - Takes getting used to, tutorial is very important just to get you in tune with gameplay, its good to have a Gamepad like Nostromo n52, keyboard and a good 4 button mouse (Logitech G5) + Wheel button

Now, there are some glitches and crashes and thats expected but this is a real fun game and its even more fun grouping 

 

Tabula Rasa is not Warhammer nor is it Conan but its better than Fury EQ2 Vanguard, Wow...its the best of any mmo until 2008 first quater and who knows if they implement battlefield/pvp it will own like crazy.

 

Cons

Targeting is not Planetside which would have just been a Jordan Slam Dunk. 

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Comments

  • TrikkyMakkTrikkyMakk Member Posts: 61

    The problem is that a lot of the elements are World of Warcraft-ish. The constant lag doesn't help either.

    This should have either been a single player game or they should have asked Blizzard if they could lease their game engine so that they could focus more on content.

  • Experimemt13Experimemt13 Member Posts: 188

    Originally posted by TrikkyMakk


     The constant lag doesn't help either.
     

    Have you tried playing n "wilderness 2, 3, or 4"? Or any of the alternates to "instance 1".

    The game logs you in on 1 most of the time. That DOES lead to some lag in busy areas.

    I find that I need to watch my video resolution settings depending on which comp I am using.That's VITAL! An most of the time I suffer negligible lag.... Works about as fast s a FPS for me! (and I am on a stinkin' laptop most of the time... not a dual core either.)

     

    RE: The OP?

    I agree except for the crafting.... That's buggy still.

    This is the first game in a long time where my playtime just "evaporates". I go in and "poof" an hour goes by.

  • Wow, I do believe that I have never seen a more fanboi like post.  Best UI?  Are you on crack?  I mean they are even changin the UI in the next patch.  Fun crafting?  Again they are overhauling the current crafting its a simple template & material/drop based system.

    Man MMORPG.com must be the most misleading site on the planet for TR information.  Both the fanboi and haters are living in a fantasy world.

     

  • DremacDremac Member Posts: 187

    Originally posted by Horkathane

    Cinematic/Story- OMFG The #1 Cinematic of all time hands down! Story? Cripes! it blows you outta your seat very original ideals and concepts!!!!!

    ...Earth being invaded by aliens and then helped by other aliens is original?

  • ArezonArezon Member UncommonPosts: 282

    I've only logged into TR once. Since then I haven't had the urge to log back in. If I want to play a shooter, I'll play FEAR or CS.

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  • FrittisonFrittison Member UncommonPosts: 90

    so MMOs should stick to the hack-n-slash fantasy genre exclusively, eh?

  • _Shadowmage_Shadowmage Member Posts: 1,459

    I think its a valid viewpoint. If people are big FPS fans I am not sure they will like T.R

    That said - I like the simple U.I, maybe thats because I am a big fan of the KISS principle.

  • ToKuToKu Member Posts: 29

    I think that FPS fans will be mildly disapointed,  I know my friend took a while to stop trying action shots because they were screwing his accuracy.

    Everyone has thier own ideas of what a game needs to survive or be good.  Personally a STRONG player based econemy and community are important,  2 things games lately dont do.  I have not seen a good either since SWG (havnt played CoX but hear its not bad either).

    The tradeskills here are kinda weak,  but incomplete so my opinion is subject to change.  I think the biggest gripe ive seen is that the game is easy mode.  Honestly if you follow the lore we're supposed to be select chosen humans in this war,  we're naturally stronger then footsoldiers,  its the zerg of them that eventually drag people down.  This of course will cause some problems early into launch,  much as beta is now,  you'll have areas flooded with people fighting for spawns,  and it really discourages a feeling of war.  But have you ever tried going to a wilderness shard thats low pop and tried to fight at a CP?  LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Sure I take out 3-5 troops every few shots,  but they just keep comming!  And those CP's are murder,  too many enemy heroes and special units around.

    This game has ALOT of potential,  and MOST important,  its not a devoted time sink,  as games are starting to phase away from.  I can log in 15,  30,  a hour...  and accomplish something in that time.  I dont have to set aside a few hours to play,  or try and work "raid time" into my daily life schedule.

    I havnt really thought about end game myself,  I used to be a hardcore gamer and still do spend 2-3 hours a day,  its just broken up more,  and I have absolutely no time nor will to raid anymore. 

    The biggest problem right now is you have oldschool hardcore games who remember "the better days of MMO's" and the new "WoW generation mmo players."  Will this game be another WoW?  Probably not.  Will it survive longer then Vanguard?  Most likely.

    I have no life.

  • vaizardvaizard Member Posts: 130
    Originally posted by Horkathane


    Ok, there are allot of people smoking crack on this forum for sure man, this game is not bad at all in fact:
    UI - Cannot be beat the most polished UI to date blows everything away!



    LOL WUT? You've got to be kidding. A 5 year old could've made that

    Immersion - Full on! Game keeps you feeling the threat like a real war is going on!
    LOL WUT IMMERSION. I don't feel like a war is going on, just some stupid AI that keeps dropping in.
    Gameplay - FUN FUN FUN, ok why do we play games?



    By fun you mean holding on MOUSE1 and running around?
    Combat - Typical mmo style but at least you can take cover and move around creating tactical play...cant do that in wow...
    Gear/Crafting - Way cool, sure crafting is not a pass or fail challenge but its sure damn fun
    Cinematic/Story- OMFG The #1 Cinematic of all time hands down! Story? Cripes! it blows you outta your seat very original ideals and concepts!!!!!
    Controls - Takes getting used to, tutorial is very important just to get you in tune with gameplay, its good to have a Gamepad like Nostromo n52, keyboard and a good 4 button mouse (Logitech G5) + Wheel button
    Now, there are some glitches and crashes and thats expected but this is a real fun game and its even more fun grouping 
     
    Tabula Rasa is not Warhammer nor is it Conan but its better than Fury EQ2 Vanguard, Wow...its the best of any mmo until 2008 first quater and who knows if they implement battlefield/pvp it will own like crazy.
     
    Cons
    Targeting is not Planetside which would have just been a Jordan Slam Dunk. 



    I love how everyones opinion differs greatly from yours :(.

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  • ToKuToKu Member Posts: 29

    As to the UI,  its not too shabby.  The chat interface needs some work but otherwise after learning hotkeys there was no learning curve for the UI.

    I have to wonder how far youve actually taken the game,  im sure that things will change and devs will conpensate for hordes of pc's trivializing areas,  but have you seen whats its like when the bane are winning?  Try out a wilderness with low pop.  All they need to do is find a way to get that kind of hardcore fight onto higher pop servers.

    To your final comment in red,  youve just named nearly every game in MMO history.  There is rarely any real challenge anymore,  too much and people get discouraged and quit.  People like the illusion of challenge nowadays. 

    I dont think that its so much that everyone thinks differently then the OP,  ive noticed that most people seek forums when they dislike something,  because those ppl having fun are not spending time on forums.  

    I have no life.

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

    Whats funny is I like the Interface...compared to LOTRO, where the interface sucks...

    But, the story and quest content is less than adequate, compared to LOTRO (and most other MMO's)

    Also, the LOGOS, which could have been a killer concept...falls flat in execution...they really do not do much, except become quest items needed to get xp or open a door..and now I think certains one's are needed to unlock your skills...

    I stick by my opinion that this game would have been AWESOME...with no monthly fee...it just feels like a console game.

    Cheers

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    A game is bad regardless of how much the subscription fee is.  Some games might not be worth paying a subscription fee for, but removing the fee doesn't somehow make a game awesome.

     

    It is an OK game at best that some people will find value in.  To most it is just a flat game. 

     

     

  • HorkathaneHorkathane Member Posts: 380

    I think most people piss on new games because they either dont have the system specs to really play the game above the lowest level of detail or are sabatours from WoW trying to steer the player base away.

    First of all please dont comment on the graphics or UI if you are not playing the game on Maximum @ 1920x1200 because you are not seeing the game just a blur of it.

    Point 2, its time for a fresh start (hehe), what are you doing in most MMO's? PVE , sure some like Fury are PvP only but that got old as soon as I hit lv 4. PVE is here to stay with added pvp for sure. So back to the point PVE:

    WoW ...point and click elves and Orce

    EQ2 ...point and click Humans and Ratonga

    etc... This game is gonna suprise you, even though its not a planetside type mmofps its the best  thing out here. Why play wow when I can craft forcefields and Holotech.

    WOW KILLER HAS ARRIVED!

    WOOTZ!!!!

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582


    WOOTZ!!!!
    WOW KILLER HAS ARRIVED!

    This is suppose to be funny...right?

    LOL..I get it...haha...it is funny

    Thanks

  • ToKuToKu Member Posts: 29

    Ah memories,  I remember how EQ was supposed to be the "UO Killer."

    Ive given up on that mindset. 

    Now Vanguard,  thats the MMO to end ALL MMO's!  :P

    I have no life.

  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,076

    There is nothing in TR that wasn't done better in City of Heroes:

     

    1) alien invasion with consequent large scale battles -- check

    2) fast paced action type game, not point and click -- check

    3) thousands of combinations of powers -- oops, CoH yes, TR no

    4) player can fly, run 80mph, jump 50 story buildings -- oops, CoH yes, TR no

    5) great in-game teaming help: LFG options -- oops, CoH yes, TR no

    6) weak to decent crafting -- check

     

    For fun, play an Assault Rifle blaster in CoH, and go to a zone that is having a Rikti Invasion: it is just like TR.

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  • emotaemota Member UncommonPosts: 413

    Originally posted by Horkathane


    Ok, there are allot of people smoking crack on this forum for sure man, this game is not bad at all in fact:
    UI - Cannot be beat the most polished UI to date blows everything away!
    Immersion - Full on! Game keeps you feeling the threat like a real war is going on!
    Gameplay - FUN FUN FUN, ok why do we play games?
    Combat - Typical mmo style but at least you can take cover and move around creating tactical play...cant do that in wow...
    Gear/Crafting - Way cool, sure crafting is not a pass or fail challenge but its sure damn fun
    Cinematic/Story- OMFG The #1 Cinematic of all time hands down! Story? Cripes! it blows you outta your seat very original ideals and concepts!!!!!
    Controls - Takes getting used to, tutorial is very important just to get you in tune with gameplay, its good to have a Gamepad like Nostromo n52, keyboard and a good 4 button mouse (Logitech G5) + Wheel button
    Now, there are some glitches and crashes and thats expected but this is a real fun game and its even more fun grouping 
     
    Tabula Rasa is not Warhammer nor is it Conan but its better than Fury EQ2 Vanguard, Wow...its the best of any mmo until 2008 first quater and who knows if they implement battlefield/pvp it will own like crazy.
     
    Cons
    Targeting is not Planetside which would have just been a Jordan Slam Dunk. 
    I agree, very busy servers nice to see lots of people enjoying RG's new incarnation.

    Its lots of fun, cant wait for release!

     

  • Hawke_812Hawke_812 Member Posts: 10

    I started playing TR open beta last week. So far it has been a blast. I really like the immersion of the game. It does feel like a war is going on. I'm hooked on it already

  • HorkathaneHorkathane Member Posts: 380

    Exactly! The game is allot different than your regular mmo where you get a quest to go kill some creatures that are living in a cave and co-habitat with other mobs all the way up to a Dragon at the bottom...yea they just chill out yo.

    LMAO!

    In TR you see the reason for the mob being there, they arrive with a mission and you feel they are trying to complete an objective just like you. They are not sitting around on a coffee break waiting for you to show up to get their treasure, no they are actively trying to conqueor the planet. Its a very VERY cool game one that has FINALLY stepped outside the box.

    COH /COV - not like TR first of all whats up with no interactiveness with the surroundings? No ones robbing banks and if they are just just endlessly hanging out in the bank..stupid.

    In TR the quests are based on the storyline and its dynamic...at one point the Bane were winning the assault on LZ and were entering the base the shield came down and everyone was like OMG WTF!! My buddy and I were in voice chat and could not believe what was happening, we thought the game was bugged. Then we started working real hard and finally drove them out and got the shield back up (someone did still dont know who) They were almost into the Hospital room fighting us, lol.

    Now that was a battle! In regular mmos the mobs would have this invisible line they wouldnt cross and you would be safe...here you gotta fight for saftey and it felt like you won for real! 

  • megafluxmegaflux Member Posts: 70

    i suppose anyone NOT dissing this game must be working for NC soft to sway the wow players away.

    it is not a great game! not by any stretch! sure we lack sci-fi mmo's as opposed to fantasy ones, and of course 1 more is a good thing, but that does in no way make up for the lack of depth that this game suffers (i seem to remember reading somewhere that the more players in an area the more mobs there would be+less helpful npc's). you should not really tilt the chart just because your comparing a sci-fi game to a fantasy one, you dont say it has banging graphics just because they are better than wow.

    if you are really lacking a sci-fi game fix it will cure it, but as far as innovation and depth it is just "OK" i personally think the single most disappointing thing is the fact that it DOES NOT work like a shooter. so basically the game involves little if any skill to play, know what else takes little if any skill to do? masturbation. say what you want about planning, kiting, and teamwork at the end of the day it would be a better game if shooting a leg off made enemies slow, arm shots made their hit rate drop, and head shots (on things that have heads or arent all head) made them dead. the dissent from the majority of the community/ communities says it all, this game will fail to thrive. it sounded and looked so damn cool too, shame but totally par for the course.

    still cant be as bad as waiting all that time and hype for halo 3 only to kill it on legendary in 7 hours.

  • HorkathaneHorkathane Member Posts: 380

    The game requires allot of skill but of a different kind.

    Let me break down the skill type difference.

    Skill Type A Typical: Head shot, Body shot, limb shot. Equates to ability degradation or double damage do to critical area.

    Skill Type B Non-Typical: resistance or immunity to attack. Equates to can be damaged or not or more susceptible.

    Now. The problem with Type A is that it applies to any weapon and makes it real simple for tactical sake...just snipe heads for the easy win. Type B (which TR uses)  makes it more of a tactical weapons management skill set. You can be fighting mob c with weapon c1 but get flanked by mob d who is immune to weapon c1 what are you gonna do???

    In Type A you just head shot both for the win...all skill based in reflexes and aim no thought required. Type B? You better have a plan that will require weapon change or not - field position (if possible) out of line of fire of either mob, -consideration of movement to quick heal, or retreat for a whole different host of tactical possibilities on the fly.

    This is what separates the twitch monkeys from the combat captains. 

  • Sev-38Sev-38 Member Posts: 9

    Don't think TR is gona be done at 18/10/2007. if they do, it will be a BIG mistake.

    It still needs alot more work I think. It's a great game, snd it's about time we get som Sci-Fi mmorpg again 

    Thx to SOE I hav not enjoy a mmo for a long time. SO I really hope the best for TR  

     

    Living the life as I hav it :D

  • vaizardvaizard Member Posts: 130
    Originally posted by Horkathane


    I think most people piss on new games because they either dont have the system specs to really play the game above the lowest level of detail or are sabatours from WoW trying to steer the player base away.
    First of all please dont comment on the graphics or UI if you are not playing the game on Maximum @ 1920x1200 because you are not seeing the game just a blur of it.
    Point 2, its time for a fresh start (hehe), what are you doing in most MMO's? PVE , sure some like Fury are PvP only but that got old as soon as I hit lv 4. PVE is here to stay with added pvp for sure. So back to the point PVE:
    WoW ...point and click elves and Orce
    EQ2 ...point and click Humans and Ratonga
    etc... This game is gonna suprise you, even though its not a planetside type mmofps its the best  thing out here. Why play wow when I can craft forcefields and Holotech.
    WOW KILLER HAS ARRIVED!
    WOOTZ!!!!

    Just because not everyone owns a 3000 dollar gaming computer doesn't mean we can't comment on graphics. Graphics on WoW look really good requiring only a really basic system, while on TR you need a decent machine to run it to look even remotely nice.



    WoW ... point and click elves and Orcs, yea but you ACTUALLY need to click a few skills. And on a constant out look for gankers and that sort.



    TR ... point and click. MAYBE a lightning but not really required.

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  • BroomyBroomy Member UncommonPosts: 487

    I love the game, it's a wonderful change for me (Sick of fantasy MMOs).  I wont say it will be my main game, but I will definitely be playing it at launch and leveling up my Medic.

    Current Games: WOW, EVE Online

  • megafluxmegaflux Member Posts: 70

    carrying around several different  property weps of each type does not appeal to me at all (if it is so fkn sci-fi why cant you just hit a button to change the weapon property?), whats more besides immunities shooting you with a shell of toxins does do some damage even if you are weak to electricity since there is kinetic energy involved. having to AIM is a matter of skill, hitting a button to change to a weapon that does a certain kind of damage totally isn't.  even racking up combos with a pistol and shotgun in this game is not so much a matter of skill as a matter of picking a place where other players wont come traipsing through and kill off all the mobs. it feels like they tried to capture the intensity of unreal but put no skill behind it.

    i waited a long time for this game, i didnt even put super high expectations on it or anything since you can generally trust british to put out an immersive and enjoyable game (unlike conan which had better fkn rock for all the features they are boasting) what i get is a bland and just plain boring experience , it looks like the 12 year olds won again.

    as far as the system requirements and 3k gaming rigs, you wouldn't expect to play  CoH on a NES would you? it isnt the responsibility of the game companies to make sure their latest titles run on dated systems, if you want to play the latest games you are EXPECTED to keep your hardware up to date. they should never make a game crappier than it could be just so people running pentium 3's can play it (which brings us full circle to WoW).

    you can perceive this game any way you like, and if you enjoy it more power to you. but i cant imagine many people will still be playing it once conan, war, huxley, aion, and unreal are released, it just isn't anywhere near that good. why chew cardboard when i can have bubblegum flavored trident with xylitol?

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