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Rest system/Sleep System

jubbincakejubbincake Member Posts: 134
I've have been hearing a little about this sleep system. I heard that if you gain X amount of Xp you have to sleep. This doesn't sound fun for me at all. It also said, the longer you sleep/rest, the easier and more exp you HAVE! I don't know what the FU*K Blizzard was thinking, I'm not a hardcore gamer but i know that they are the glue to the game. And this is making them obsolete. All of the losers that want to be in the same rank but their mommies say they can only have an hour a day love the idea, i don't play too  much on the computer. But Holy shit, this is unfair to even me and any hardcore gamer. Some one explain this with more details, from what i've heard this sucks. It's not fun unless there are hardcore guys to gloat around the server, and show off. I don't know about you guys, but playing with high levels is alot more fun than low levels.

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  • Axel_karefAxel_karef Member Posts: 279

    You're misunderstanding what the rest system is all about. It's ok I had the same reaction lol.

    The rest system was Blizzard's way of making the not-so-hardcore gamers beable to balance out with the hardcore gamers. When you haven't rested at all, you're considered to be at normal state. In this state you get 100% of exp per kill. So hardcore gamers aren't losing anything. It's only there because the people who only play on weekends would normally be completely behind compared to hardcore gamers. In a fully rested state you get 200% exp off each kill. This way the casual players can level just as fast as hardcore players. This isn't a bad thing at all. If you want 200% exp then go to an inn and log off for a few days. You'll have about 1.5 lvl's worth of 200% exp to gain. BUT if you stayed in a normal state and played for that same amount of time, then you would still have accumulated about the same amount of exp.

    That's as simply as I can put it. The rest system isn't a bad thing at all. It's not holding you back or anything, it's just giving the casual gamers an easier more fun experience. You shouldn't even care about the rest system if you're a powergamer, it doesn't affect you. I hope this cleared things up.

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  • jubbincakejubbincake Member Posts: 134
    I know that it "helps" casual complainers. That's what pisses me off. They don't play as much, there fore they should even level nearly as fast. No bonuses nothing, they should stop being pussies and play the game. Only one  person can be best, and thats because they devote their time. All of the CG's should be alot lower and not getting any bonus, this is a horrible idea and should be scrapped. No tweak can save it, HORRIBLE!

  • zeroskaterzeroskater Member Posts: 176

    lol ... jubbincake is scared he gonna get the crap kicked out of him by a guy that spends half thr time he dose on the game .. hahahahahahah shame!

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  • Axel_karefAxel_karef Member Posts: 279

    lol, my point was that casual gamers will have an easier time leveling, therefore have fun being a casual gamer. Plus should you care about the casual gamers in PVP? Cmon, theyre only on every once in a while. lol.

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  • ChaosasChaosas Member Posts: 129

    I absolutely love this system. I'm a hardcore gamer, often playing 7+ hours a day, but sometimes I have no time for games... And I don't want others to get more lvl than me... BUT thanks to this system when I'm not playing I rest so when I come back... ::::28::
    Earlier when you became tired and got less exp (like 80 percent or what was that) I didn't like the system but now it's absolutely cool.
    By the way ::::28:: if you are a hardcore gamer you still are in MUCH better position than casual gamer. 100% is NORMAL exp NOT 200% why people misunderstand that ::::11:: REmember that if you play much more you'll still get more exp (you probably play MORE than 2 times (200/100%) that casual gamers) besides you will surely get MUCH more gold, items, friends, quests... ::::18:: So don't worry and give busy people a chance too ::::31::

  • gaeria84gaeria84 Member Posts: 105

    The rest state is fine by me. Yes it is beneficial towards casual gamers but hey, let them have some fun, will you?

    For example, look at this calculation.

    Current rest state system: Rested(200%) Normal (100%)

    Powergamer: Plays 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, 1000 exp accumulated each hour

    10x1000x7= 70000 exp

    Casual gamer:Plays 3 hours a day,  5 days a week, 1000 exp accumulated each hour

    3x1000x5x2=40000 exp

    Powergamers earn more exp than casual gamers, so what are you complaining about?

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  • gaeria84gaeria84 Member Posts: 105
    Whoops mistyped lol. 40000 exp should be 30000 exp. Sorry......image

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  • BlaxusBlaxus Member Posts: 21

    If you do sleep for 8 hours a day you will get a 10% rest bonus when you wake up.. So, it's not like the power gamer doesn't necessarily get anything out of the rest system.

    8hrs per rest bubble x 30 rest bubbles = 10 days .. So in order for a casual gamer to receive the full 200% xp bonus, for the duration of 1.5 levels, he/she would have to be offline for a good 10 days.

    I am a hardcore gamer myself and I usually get 8 hours of sleep per day (and work later :P), so I will be going in with an additional 10% worth of xp, as I think most of you would.

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  • magijoe2magijoe2 Member Posts: 50

    Wut it will hapens of we dont sleepimage

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  • iddmitriiddmitri Member UncommonPosts: 671
    Blizzard making WoW for average players who would spend about 2-5 hours a day playing WoW. They wont listen hardcore players couse most of the player that are going to play WoW are average players and thats sucks. image

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  • AnnekynnAnnekynn Member Posts: 1,437

    gaeria84 you can edit your posts and correct typos you know :)

    And the rest system as of the latest patch is a great idea. It doesnt penalize anyone, and it helps boost those that play less. WoW isnt supposed to be a huge leveling treadmill like Lineage 2. Its supposed to be a fun game where the focus is on questing and alliance vs horde battles and such instead of powerleveling for weeks at a time.

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  • minuteman76minuteman76 Member Posts: 28
    I think this is a great idea, especially for those of us with jobs and classes. I will be in school nearly all day tuesdays and thursdays when WoW is released as well as working the rest of the week. I think Blizzard was VERY smart to appeal to people like me who can't necessarily sit at the computer as much as others. The system is a smart marketing move, but a great gameplay feature as well.

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  • MinimumMinimum Member UncommonPosts: 236

    This whole thing is a make or break thing for me. I won't be buying the game as long as this is in place.

    Anytime 2 players are in the same group and killing the same mob at the same time and one player gets more XP because he's "rested" . The other player is getting screwed. They can put it any way they want, it's a penalty for those who like to play the game and who want to play long hours. And for the record, I think this would have been a good deal for me. I play basically 2 hours a night. That's my limit. I have a family and all.


    For those of you who like it, great. For me? It's one less game to worry about playing.

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  • minuteman76minuteman76 Member Posts: 28

    Addendum to my above post:

    Not all so-called "casual" players are little kids whose mommies won't let them use the computer for mor than an hour a day. Alot of "casual" gamers are gamers who happen to be self-supporting, hard-working people who may even have once been a hard-core gamer. Calling them names is childish and silly. They deserve a good time in WoW also...perhaps a little bit more than some "hard-core" gamers.


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  • Axel_karefAxel_karef Member Posts: 279


    Originally posted by gaeria84
    Whoops mistyped lol. 40000 exp should be 30000 exp. Sorry......image*anticipating WoW*

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  • jubbincakejubbincake Member Posts: 134
    Don't take it seriously it's just a forum. And when you are in a group leveling up with some friends or what not. It is going pretty good. But then let's say one person is fully rested and the other is normal. If you go until you become tired, then they are going to be at normal or something. You are going to have to quit and log off for a while, that's not a very good idea, they are driving people that want to play the game away from it. It's like if they made a new mario, after every couple stages it tells you to go outside or turn it off for 10 hours and then come back or the levels will be nearly impossible. Sounds rediculouse huh?

  • Axel_karefAxel_karef Member Posts: 279

    I was under the impression that they fixed the rest system to not even have a "tired" state. I thought they removed it so that the normal rested state is the lowest you can go. Was I wrong? If I am wrong and you sstill can get tired and only get a fraction of the exp you should be getting then I'm startin to side with jubbincake.

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    "If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because maybe you'll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you because, hey, free dummy." -Jack Handey

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  • syndakitsyndakit Member Posts: 96



    Originally posted by jubbincake
    I know that it "helps" casual complainers. That's what pisses me off. They don't play as much, there fore they should even level nearly as fast. No bonuses nothing, they should stop being pussies and play the game. Only one  person can be best, and thats because they devote their time. All of the CG's should be alot lower and not getting any bonus, this is a horrible idea and should be scrapped. No tweak can save it, HORRIBLE!




    Are you complaining, about complainers? Hmmmm.... And its a damn game, not life. So who cares if it helps casual gamers, not everyone has time to sit at the computer 5 hours a day.   "Devote their time"? TO what?? CLICKING A DAMN MOUSE? Wow, some devotion.

    The rest system is awesome, and most sensible people dont have a problem with it. It doesnt make casual gamers as good as hard cores, but it lets casual gamers see more of the game quicker, without having to play 15 hours a week.

  • BrutuxBrutux Member Posts: 156

    I really like the rest system since WoW will come out when I'm in classes I won't be able to play as much as I would like to and since I play a lot of sports I will only have a couple hours during the week. I like the idea since if one day/night I can't play I'll be able to level up fast the next time I can play. This system hurts no-one at all just benefits different types of players (power-gamers and casual) if you people let yourself get a good night sleep (8 hours) you get a bonus for a level when you start playing again. I don't know why the people complain about this system since to me it seems great for everyone. So I really don't see the downside to this system since the gamers who play maybe 10 hours per week will be able to maybe particpate in raids and stuff since eventually thier character would be strong enough and the rest system is going to attract many casual gamers because of the fact they actually have a chance to get to the highest level and do all the fun stuff you can at that level within a couple of months if they play 10 hours on average per week. So anyways to sum all this up I like the rest system personally.

  • heinrichoheinricho Member Posts: 252

    you could max out your characters and grind through 'em getting that rested bonus.  It would be too distracting for me though.  ok, maybe not.

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  • VakktnVakktn Member Posts: 746

    Rest state is stupid IMO... people who play casual wont lvl as fast as hardcore gamers (like myself I play 8-16 hours a day =P) the rest state wont help them keep up with us... WHY? cuz they only play once or twice a week where as the hardcore game is playing EVERYDAY!.... that extra 100% wont make a big diff...still will take that casual gamer a hell of a long time to lvl.

    But the rest system right now is 200% xp at rested and 100% xp at normal... they took out the 150% state. But to get the 200% xp you have to be offline (logged out at an Inn) for like I think 3/4 days i believe if im not mistaken (correct me if im wrong).

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  • jubbincakejubbincake Member Posts: 134
    Ok, I have heard from a beta tester that it take slike 10 days to get from 100% to 200%. Now that i have read this, i am perfectly, almost ok with it, can some one please tell me if they go from 100% and lower? If they do I hate it. If they don't it's prefectly ok with me. I don't want any "downtime" if you will, because then they could keep their potions and stuff and take out the rest system and get rid of potions.

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