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Tabula Rasa: Launch Date Moved

StraddenStradden Managing EditorMember CommonPosts: 6,696

Starr Long, the Producer of NCsoft's Tabula Rasa announced today that the launch of the game will be pushed back to November 2nd. Pre-Order head starts will begin on October 30th.

Many of you have heard my mantra for game development: "Stable, Fast, Fun. In that order." We need a little more time to make that happen.



To this end we are moving our Pre-Order headstart date to 10/30/07 and our commercial service start date to 11/2/07. This short but critical amount of time will give us time to address several issues including stability and balance as well as allowing our players to test the continent of Ligo (L38+) and our major changes to crafting for a few weeks rather than a few days. Our entire development staff feels this extra time is needed as does our beta community. We feel confident that this extra time will make a difference on launch day.



That said we are excited about launching the game and moving into a "live" environment where the entire future of the AFS is ahead of us. Expect more posts from Richard Garriott, Paul Sage, and other dev staff over the next few days as they discuss plans for elder content and content updates both long and short term. One of us will also be posting to the website every Friday in order to directly address your feedback, which you can submit via the Feedback Form found here on the RGTR.com website.



See you in game as we wrap up this final leg of testing and get ready for the end-of-beta blow out!



Starr Long

Producer

More on Tabula Rasa here.

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

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  • tallshortguytallshortguy Member Posts: 92

    Although it is pretty fun right now, it is pretty laggy and bugged in many instances. While I am anticipating its release, I think this is a great and very smart move on the part of the developers. Delaying a game for a month is far better than releasing one bugged to death. Hopefully this extra time will allow them to avoid a bad launch because 90% of MMOs have their future decided within 1-2 months after release.

    In the end, logic and reason always beat out fanboys.

  • tyhawktyhawk Member Posts: 22

    I've been in quite a few beta's since I started online gaming and I must admit I think the dev team made the right choice. Most game launch anyway and launch a bug-infested beast they spend weeks after launch to sort out and get stable. Tabula Rasa is going for quality and are willing to postpone to get it right.

    Good job

  • enzymeenzyme Member UncommonPosts: 464

    I pre-ordered the collector's edition, even though I can't wait for the official release, I can wait a little while longer for an improved experience.

     

    So far, game's been a blast. 

    Current Games:

  • ZoNEEZoNEE Member UncommonPosts: 31

    Yeah im all for it, its for the good of the game.

  • vknidvknid Member UncommonPosts: 154

    They get a from me. Its not ready! =P

  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726

    30 days is going to make it ready?  Been in the business too long to believe that.  Probably get the most serious bugs and get the rest later.  Does not sound good for Sir Richard.  I think he might end up eatting his words on this one.  A shame really.

  • zWolfzWolf Member Posts: 88

     

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    30 days is going to make it ready?  Been in the business too long to believe that.  Probably get the most serious bugs and get the rest later.  Does not sound good for Sir Richard.  I think he might end up eatting his words on this one.  A shame really.
    Ok... This guy... Ozmodan may have 'been in the business too long to believe that." as he says, but the guy OBVIOUSLY hasn't been in the business long enough to learn not  to talk about something that he know's nothing about.  To be clear on the matter, here's what I am saying, I would be VERY surprised if he has been in the beta during the last 2 to 4 weeks.  I have, and I can say this game (as far as Beta's go mind you,) is smooth.  It runs great - there arn't many crashes reported,  the game play is fun, Seriously, this game is runnig great. 

     

    Just becuase they want to add a months worth of polish to it, doesn't mean that it's 'Failing Criticly'  The post says they want to test 'later game' content, and Balancing, and a tweak to the crafting system.. C'mon, think back mr. "I've been in the industry a long ole' time,"  Many of the games that you have 'been around' went gold with out even a thought to 'late - end game' content.  And Crafting Systems... don't even get me started - some games go to press with the promis of 'a major patch to introduce crafting in the near future' or no plans at all for crafing.

    I really don't see this as a 'gloom and doom' move by these guys, I take em at their word, they are making the game Great.  Much like Blizzard back in the Diablo / Diablo 2 days - it's done when it's done.

    Add to that mr. 'Industry man' the fact that they even MADE this move of pushing it back - Holy Cow! in this day and age with Retialers actualy giving up shelf space to pre-order boxes and the new attention that corporate is giving to meeting deadlines - that was one bold move!  Especialy since in my estimation, had this been one of SOE's game there is no way that they wouldn't have had it out the door already,  happiliy taking in 15$ a month from Subscribers paying to Beta test the game.

    anyway - this rant sounds rather hostile twards the OP I'm quoting... sorry about that... I really don't feel hostile, I think I'm just tired and that's how it came out. 

    I'll pre apologize, get some sleep, and won't let it happen again.

     

    Peace out -zWolf.

    Thank you,

    zWolf -out.

  • LouiseKLouiseK Member Posts: 258

    Well after playing the beta for a while i was surprised when the "pre-order" date they were preparing seemed so close. This is better, but i'll be surprised if 30 days make much difference.

    I mean the guy even clearly states that they have just made major changes to the crafting, so the 30 days isn't to polish. it is to test the new system... which could work out to be all wrong still, then what? another month? Then they can start polishing?

    They're obviously trying to avoid directly competing with AoC and WAR, but i think that is the realistic time scale they're looking at. Don't be fooled into the pre-order without a release date, this is also another "we're scared of Aoc/WAR" tactic...

     

     

  • mindmeldmindmeld Member UncommonPosts: 229

    Good call

    -Semper ubi sub ubi!
    always wear underwear

  • ZoNEEZoNEE Member UncommonPosts: 31
    Originally posted by zWolf


     
     
    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    30 days is going to make it ready?  Been in the business too long to believe that.  Probably get the most serious bugs and get the rest later.  Does not sound good for Sir Richard.  I think he might end up eatting his words on this one.  A shame really.
    Ok... This guy... Ozmodan may have 'been in the business too long to believe that." as he says, but the guy OBVIOUSLY hasn't been in the business long enough to learn not  to talk about something that he know's nothing about.  To be clear on the matter, here's what I am saying, I would be VERY surprised if he has been in the beta during the last 2 to 4 weeks.  I have, and I can say this game (as far as Beta's go mind you,) is smooth.  It runs great - there arn't many crashes reported,  the game play is fun, Seriously, this game is runnig great. 

     

     

    Just becuase they want to add a months worth of polish to it, doesn't mean that it's 'Failing Criticly'  The post says they want to test 'later game' content, and Balancing, and a tweak to the crafting system.. C'mon, think back mr. "I've been in the industry a long ole' time,"  Many of the games that you have 'been around' went gold with out even a thought to 'late - end game' content.  And Crafting Systems... don't even get me started - some games go to press with the promis of 'a major patch to introduce crafting in the near future' or no plans at all for crafing.

    I really don't see this as a 'gloom and doom' move by these guys, I take em at their word, they are making the game Great.  Much like Blizzard back in the Diablo / Diablo 2 days - it's done when it's done.

    Add to that mr. 'Industry man' the fact that they even MADE this move of pushing it back - Holy Cow! in this day and age with Retialers actualy giving up shelf space to pre-order boxes and the new attention that corporate is giving to meeting deadlines - that was one bold move!  Especialy since in my estimation, had this been one of SOE's game there is no way that they wouldn't have had it out the door already,  happiliy taking in 15$ a month from Subscribers paying to Beta test the game.

    anyway - this rant sounds rather hostile twards the OP I'm quoting... sorry about that... I really don't feel hostile, I think I'm just tired and that's how it came out. 

    I'll pre apologize, get some sleep, and won't let it happen again.

     

    Peace out -zWolf.



    lol, dont pre apologize. You are just saying whats on all our minds. Well said, and couldnt agree more.

  • ZergorZergor Member CommonPosts: 15

    This beta is very very fun, however it is NOT ready for release. WAY to many nagging issues ranging from graphics optimization to server stability and EVERYTHING in between needing some polish. Very very happy they are taking the time to do more polish before releasing this. 

  • projousprojous Member Posts: 14
    *sigh* i organized time off work for the 16th launch
  • CoirCoir Member Posts: 97

    Kind of reminds me of many releases that have bugs. SWG's springs to mind, especially due to the number of similar problems. Not ready. And imho 30 days is enough to get it out but still not ready. No pre-order for me. Will check back on TR when the 7 or 14 day trial arrives.

  • SaikronSaikron Member Posts: 90

    With NCSoft and Garriott backing it, I think people should be happy to wait 30 days, and should expect a wait from professionals that know when an MMO is ready.

    Possibly to Tabula Rasa's detriment -- players should also expect a great game for the same reasons.

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  • darkraptordarkraptor Member Posts: 178

    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    30 days is going to make it ready?  Been in the business too long to believe that.  Probably get the most serious bugs and get the rest later.  Does not sound good for Sir Richard.  I think he might end up eatting his words on this one.  A shame really.
    To say you are overthinking or otherwise might not be direct enough, I would say you are basically incorrect.

    30 days  is an extra 30 days. If they feel there is a bit more bug squashing to be done before releasing a non-vaporware game then obviously it's a good sign.

    I don't know what "industry" you've been in, but if its negative PR spin or diahhrea of the mouth, I think thats about the only "industry" I'd believe. Anyone with have an ounce of business sense knows that releasing an unfinished project is just ripe with calls of low quality, and is similar to the lead paint issues. Don't cry about money either, as the fact that the game is so close to completion is probably easy to find an extra VC to invest since they have a solid product to show for it.

    /rant

  • ShoalShoal Member Posts: 1,156

    They need a hell of a lot more than 30 days to fix this one.

    30 weeks would be more like it.

    I wonder how many of the fan-boys that are playing for free right now are going to be willing to fork up the $15 a month to play this buggy, content short, feature lacking, 'mmorpg'?

    Not many, I would bet.

    NCSoft would do well to shoot RG into space as soon as possible, leave him there, and take the time to finish this game and get it right.  July 4, 2008 would be a super day to launch this game.

    Independence Day,  FTW!

  • alyndalealyndale Member UncommonPosts: 936

    Originally posted by Shoal


    They need a hell of a lot more than 30 days to fix this one.
    30 weeks would be more like it.
    I wonder how many of the fan-boys that are playing for free right now are going to be willing to fork up the $15 a month to play this buggy, content short, feature lacking, 'mmorpg'?
    Not many, I would bet.
    NCSoft would do well to shoot RG into space as soon as possible, leave him there, and take the time to finish this game and get it right.  July 4, 2008 would be a super day to launch this game.
    Independence Day,  FTW!
    Come on, is it really all that bad?  Do you actually lose sleep at night over it?  If not, then chill out!  I doubt seriously you are qualified to make such harsh statements as, "shoot it into space...".  Come on, kiddo, give it a rest.

     

    It'll be ok, just don't play it and let the other several thousand world-wide enjoy without you.

     

    All I want is the truth
    Just gimme some truth
    John Lennon

  • ShoalShoal Member Posts: 1,156

    Originally posted by alyndale


     
    Originally posted by Shoal


    They need a hell of a lot more than 30 days to fix this one.
    30 weeks would be more like it.
    I wonder how many of the fan-boys that are playing for free right now are going to be willing to fork up the $15 a month to play this buggy, content short, feature lacking, 'mmorpg'?
    Not many, I would bet.
    NCSoft would do well to shoot RG into space as soon as possible, leave him there, and take the time to finish this game and get it right.  July 4, 2008 would be a super day to launch this game.
    Independence Day,  FTW!
    Come on, is it really all that bad?  Do you actually lose sleep at night over it?  If not, then chill out!  I doubt seriously you are qualified to make such harsh statements as, "shoot it into space...".  Come on, kiddo, give it a rest.

     

     

    It'll be ok, just don't play it and let the other several thousand world-wide enjoy without you.

     

    Need to read >carefully< before you post.   I said shoot  >  RG  < into space.

    And yes, for a $15 a month subscription game, it is that bad.

    Would be ok for a Free to Play game.  But nowhere near meets the current standards for a $15 a month subscription game.

    Not even close.

    And, thank you for your invitation not to purchase the box or sign up for the subscription.

    Invitaion accepted.

    ROFLMAO  :   "... several thousand  world-wide...." ????

    That >is< a prediction of failure.

     

  • basroilbasroil Member Posts: 48

    What is the basis for "current standards" of a subscription game?  For the most part games which have been debugged for the last number of years while people are paying for it.  So now that they are great games after many years we should automatically base all new things on that?  Is that really something to base "standards" on?

  • zOMGREIzOMGREI Member Posts: 228
    Originally posted by basroil


    What is the basis for "current standards" of a subscription game?  For the most part games which have been debugged for the last number of years while people are paying for it.  So now that they are great games after many years we should automatically base all new things on that?  Is that really something to base "standards" on?



    I don't think bugs are the primary complaint of most players.  A lot of the issues are inherent gameplay and design flaws that you really can't fix over the course of a month (See:NGE).

  • abhaighabhaigh Member Posts: 390

    launch date needs to be pushed back at least 3 months, if not 6

    there just isn't enough meat on this scrawny bone of a game to merit the 15 bucks a month sub to play it

    of course the fanbois will disagree, but then that's what fanbois do

  • Tastywheat1Tastywheat1 Member Posts: 42

    Now they have more time to turn a turd into an extra shiny turd.

  • FeldronFeldron Member UncommonPosts: 337

    I think a dec 2nd release would be wiser

  • HackerZCHackerZC Member Posts: 17

    There seem to be two sides to every game in existence. Those who like it, and those who don't.

    Here is an idea for everyone to consider.... if you like it, then play it, if you don't, THEN DON'T!

    This message especially goes out to those of who who feel that you have to constantly post in forums about how much you DON'T like something, as if anyone actually gave a shit what you thought to begin with.

    I find it absolutely hilarious how people who admit to not liking something have this innate desire to go out of their way just to say to people "I hate this", usually doing so on the website for the thing they claim not to like, in some sort of futile attempt to sway the views of others. Because as we all know, nothing makes people accept YOUR views better than talking shit and telling everyone how what they like is stupid, and then explaining why ^_^.

    My only guess is that you simply have nothing better to do with your time. Chances are you are under 18, some shut-in nerd, and have not been laid by anyone since your uncle Earl when you were 9.

    You think $15 a month for some game is expensive... play the game of pussy, that shit gets expensive REAL quick.



    Same pretty much goes for the fan-boys out there. Supporting something you like is good and all, but put things into perspective will you? It's a damn game.... A GAME! Instead of nerd out about something and get all righteous because someone "dissed your game", do something more productive than going on about how they are wrong, blah blah blah, and trying to sound all intelligent, as if the ignorant fucker on the other end of the conversation even understood half those words.

    As for me, I'm getting the thing (whenever it does finally come out). It looks interesting, I'm going to try it. If I don't like it then I won't play any more, it's that simple. Worst case scenario I'm out the price of the game and a couple months subscription.... big woop. I have a job, I'll be able to make that money back in less time than it takes to ship the damn thing to me.

    Yeah $50 +$15/month might seem like a lot when you are 8 or something, but when you grow up it's chump change.

    One last thing before I go (because I've wasted far too much time on this as it is), any of you here remember back in the early 90's when the internet hadn't really caught on yet and when you bought a game for the computer there WERE no updates to download to "fix bugs". When if something was screwed up you just lives with it? Everyone who is complaining about "oh they will have to patch because 30 days isn't enough *cry*" need to shut it. Bunch of ignorant bastards, always bitching about every damn thing. Shit.

  • GrifinGrifin Member Posts: 91

    lol

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