I already have a list of ppl that have left for good. Its not some fantasy. Each time it has been related to the game developement as a whole. Some people aren't willing to sit around making logpiles for three years waiting for that one day when they implement a brick house. I wish this game the best, and i'm still here, though without incentive to play, but i'm not gonna ignore the whipsaw manner in which this game is developing.
I remember how many times when a new device is put in it needs certain skills, the only way to get those was to have Kanoth login Longinus and teach them. The list goes on. Especially from the Barbarian side.
I already have a list of ppl that have left for good. Its not some fantasy. Each time it has been related to the game developement as a whole. Some people aren't willing to sit around making logpiles for three years waiting for that one day when they implement a brick house. I wish this game the best, and i'm still here, though without incentive to play, but i'm not gonna ignore the whipsaw manner in which this game is developing. I remember how many times when a new device is put in it needs certain skills, the only way to get those was to have Kanoth login Longinus and teach them. The list goes on. Especially from the Barbarian side. We are all aware that nothing is perfect.
You can add me to that list, mate... after all this time, being perma-banned for trivial things twice, being badmouthed by the lead dev at least a few times before my first banning for not VERMing enough, and still sticking with the game, going to quite extraordinary lengths to keep playing, I have finally ended it. There is no hope for RV, nor will there ever be.
The once fabled community is still there, but only in the IRC channels and occasionally some people on the fora. Most are moving on to other games, like Tabula rasa, PotBS, shadowbane, etc... And I can't blame them, in fact I plan on joining themas soon as my ISP fixes my connection.
I won't add any massive rants about the customer-dev relationship and how it's degraded here, because all has been said and done.
I already have a list of ppl that have left for good. Its not some fantasy. Each time it has been related to the game developement as a whole. Some people aren't willing to sit around making logpiles for three years waiting for that one day when they implement a brick house. I wish this game the best, and i'm still here, though without incentive to play, but i'm not gonna ignore the whipsaw manner in which this game is developing. I remember how many times when a new device is put in it needs certain skills, the only way to get those was to have Kanoth login Longinus and teach them. The list goes on. Especially from the Barbarian side. We are all aware that nothing is perfect.
You can add me to that list, mate... after all this time, being perma-banned for trivial things twice, being badmouthed by the lead dev at least a few times before my first banning for not VERMing enough, and still sticking with the game, going to quite extraordinary lengths to keep playing, I have finally ended it. There is no hope for RV, nor will there ever be.
The once fabled community is still there, but only in the IRC channels and occasionally some people on the fora. Most are moving on to other games, like Tabula rasa, PotBS, shadowbane, etc... And I can't blame them, in fact I plan on joining themas soon as my ISP fixes my connection.
I won't add any massive rants about the customer-dev relationship and how it's degraded here, because all has been said and done.
lol there is still a great community in RV. We have lost some good guys and hopefully they'll be back, i don' t miss those bad apple's though that account for 85% of those that have left.
I already have a list of ppl that have left for good. Its not some fantasy. Each time it has been related to the game developement as a whole. Some people aren't willing to sit around making logpiles for three years waiting for that one day when they implement a brick house. I wish this game the best, and i'm still here, though without incentive to play, but i'm not gonna ignore the whipsaw manner in which this game is developing. I remember how many times when a new device is put in it needs certain skills, the only way to get those was to have Kanoth login Longinus and teach them. The list goes on. Especially from the Barbarian side. We are all aware that nothing is perfect.
You can add me to that list, mate... after all this time, being perma-banned for trivial things twice, being badmouthed by the lead dev at least a few times before my first banning for not VERMing enough, and still sticking with the game, going to quite extraordinary lengths to keep playing, I have finally ended it. There is no hope for RV, nor will there ever be.
The once fabled community is still there, but only in the IRC channels and occasionally some people on the fora. Most are moving on to other games, like Tabula rasa, PotBS, shadowbane, etc... And I can't blame them, in fact I plan on joining themas soon as my ISP fixes my connection.
I won't add any massive rants about the customer-dev relationship and how it's degraded here, because all has been said and done.
lol there is still a great community in RV. We have lost some good guys and hopefully they'll be back, i don' t miss those bad apple's though that account for 85% of those that have left.
Which accounts for 50% of the Roma Victor population.
Well everyone throws around numbers which are complimentary to their arguement. Maybe we really should start a name tally of those that are gone that really did game.
What made this '85%' bad eggs anyway? Please, I doubt it. Unless of course your idea of bad egg is someone who doesn't agree with you and voices their opinion.
What made this '85%' bad eggs anyway? Please, I doubt it. Unless of course your idea of bad egg is someone who doesn't agree with you and voices their opinion.
lol unless vep is investing thousands into this game, it wont make it to next december (not this one, the next one). I would really be amazed if this game has even 200 active players. I quit because of ths shitty combat, and lag, my comp can play anything out there and i freeze up when i go to stab someone .... anyways, it wont make it to 09.
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lol unless vep is investing thousands into this game, it wont make it to next december (not this one, the next one). I would really be amazed if this game has even 200 active players. I quit because of ths shitty combat, and lag, my comp can play anything out there and i freeze up when i go to stab someone .... anyways, it wont make it to 09.
I'm not investing thousands, maybe a thousand so far, but i'll leave the thousands realm to Augir. shitty combat and lag? did you even bother to update your drivers? go ahead and play other games no one will even know your gone
lol unless vep is investing thousands into this game, it wont make it to next december (not this one, the next one). I would really be amazed if this game has even 200 active players. I quit because of ths shitty combat, and lag, my comp can play anything out there and i freeze up when i go to stab someone .... anyways, it wont make it to 09.
I'm not investing thousands, maybe a thousand so far, but i'll leave the thousands realm to Augir. shitty combat and lag? did you even bother to update your drivers? go ahead and play other games no one will even know your gone
Wow, and I thought I was stupid for wasting $300 on this game... no wonder you are such a fanboi...
If I had wasted that much money on something I would go arround telling everyone it is a master peice too. Atleast now we all know why you don't admit that this game is taking the wrong path, but eventually like everyone else has including me, you will have to face the light and open your eyes. Else you will utterly devastated when this game is shut down and you are out all that money.
Your best bet is to start demanding the changes the majority have been calling for for a long time now. Without the majority this game is doomed, but I think you won't realize that untill it is too late.
But let me help you with your response so you don't have to waste your time.
Roma Victor, is doing fine with out all of you, I am pleased with my investment and will invest more when I can. This game is 100% perfect just the way it is and the path the devs are taking is fine, I just can't see why everyone is leaving this game......
It's a sad fact but many beta testers of any MMO get burnt out after a while and it's understandable. The cycle with RV is people get mad. They quit, they comes back two weeks later. Why? Because there is nothing on the market like it.
When the real reason they come back is that the game is free to play... or atleast it was. Seems they are trying to change that.
Wake up Vep, wake up...Vep...wake up. Darn, he's off in RV lala land. LOL
lol unless vep is investing thousands into this game, it wont make it to next december (not this one, the next one). I would really be amazed if this game has even 200 active players. I quit because of ths shitty combat, and lag, my comp can play anything out there and i freeze up when i go to stab someone .... anyways, it wont make it to 09.
I'm not investing thousands, maybe a thousand so far, but i'll leave the thousands realm to Augir. shitty combat and lag? did you even bother to update your drivers? go ahead and play other games no one will even know your gone
lol first the game actually needs people, before anyone will know im gone.
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And I just had to respond to this... Vep says, It's a sad fact but many beta testers of any MMO get burnt out after a while and it's understandable. The cycle with RV is people get mad. They quit, they comes back two weeks later. Why? Because there is nothing on the market like it.
When the real reason they come back is that the game is free to play... or atleast it was. Seems they are trying to change that.
Wake up Vep, wake up...Vep...wake up. Darn, he's off in RV lala land. LOL
You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
And I just had to respond to this... Vep says, It's a sad fact but many beta testers of any MMO get burnt out after a while and it's understandable. The cycle with RV is people get mad. They quit, they comes back two weeks later. Why? Because there is nothing on the market like it.
When the real reason they come back is that the game is free to play... or atleast it was. Seems they are trying to change that.
Wake up Vep, wake up...Vep...wake up. Darn, he's off in RV lala land. LOL
You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
Most of us already have a JOB IRL , and that is the main reason not many people want to be crafters... Crafting in this game takes about as much time as our RL JOB does.
Hence the reason most people want to be fighters. But in this new update even the legions have to pay a fee to maintain their guild... and that is entirely backward. Rome would be paying their legionaires to fight and protect it's land's, it is not the other way arround.
Rome was smart enough to know that the money that they pay to their legions would in turn be put back into it's economy when they buy and maintain their gear and food as well as their wants...like alchohol(that we have yet to see).
The crafters would be paying more for protection since they would be making a killing off the soldiers and the rest of the population so that is understandable. But IMO the fees and the extreme craft times is a slap in the face to them as well.
There are some concepts for ya to ponder... too bad RB didn't even take them into consideration at all when implementing this fee.
Hey legionare go out there and dodge those blades or even die for this land, ohh and pay me some money and while you are at it gather some goat shit into a pile and sell it.... I bet people would line up for miles to join...how bout you?
I just did the math. My guild is not large but we have many hired NPC's. The monthly guild fees PER PERSON comes out to 43 cents (in U.S. dollars). In game, each person could pick up two logs from the forest and sell them to the NPC merchant to pay for their share of the guild fee. Total time spent: 8 minutes maybe?
BTW, tonight I will be selling some leftover, low quality hidescraps to Vepgenus for his legion to use in making the new helmets. That one sale alone will just about pay the fees for my entire guild for the month. Easy. I bought two handcarts from one of his premier crafters last weekend and that sale would pay Vep's total guild fees for two months.
I'm sorry, but in my mind, complaints about guild fees are completely unfounded.
I just did the math. My guild is not large but we have many hired NPC's. The monthly guild fees PER PERSON comes out to 43 cents (in U.S. dollars). In game, each person could pick up two logs from the forest and sell them to the NPC merchant to pay for their share of the guild fee. Total time spent: 8 minutes maybe? BTW, tonight I will be selling some leftover, low quality hidescraps to Vepgenus for his legion to use in making the new helmets. That one sale alone will just about pay the fees for my entire guild for the month. Easy. I bought two handcarts from one of his premier crafters last weekend and that sale would pay Vep's total guild fees for two months. I'm sorry, but in my mind, complaints about guild fees are completely unfounded.
Trust me as I had said it is 100% understandable for crafters guilds... But when it comes to legions it is absolutely not.
According to RB this is a simulation of real life in roman times, so you are saying that in roman times the legions had to pay Rome and they recieved no pay for their service to the empire?
That is what it comes down to, is it a simulation of RL like they say or only when it is convenient to them? And it is obviously the latter and apparently that is unacceptable by many people. That frame of thought on their part is running people off.
Stat decay I totaly agree with had been saying for a while now that their are too many folks that are jacks of all trades and that was killing the economy. However not allowing the person to lock their main skills and set other unneeded skill to lower with the decay is a bad move. But the big killer is that they went and did it when it is still a lag fest and people are dieing and losing those hard to earn skills through no fault of their own.
Many wouldn't mind if they could lock their main skills, and only lose the ones that they don't want or need.That is of course untill they run out of them and only have the main ones to lose. It is just poor decision making and timing on RB's part.
But they could be corrected, question is will they ? Doubtfull.
I just did the math. My guild is not large but we have many hired NPC's. The monthly guild fees PER PERSON comes out to 43 cents (in U.S. dollars). In game, each person could pick up two logs from the forest and sell them to the NPC merchant to pay for their share of the guild fee. Total time spent: 8 minutes maybe? BTW, tonight I will be selling some leftover, low quality hidescraps to Vepgenus for his legion to use in making the new helmets. That one sale alone will just about pay the fees for my entire guild for the month. Easy. I bought two handcarts from one of his premier crafters last weekend and that sale would pay Vep's total guild fees for two months. I'm sorry, but in my mind, complaints about guild fees are completely unfounded.
Trust me as I had said it is 100% understandable for crafters guilds... But when it comes to legions it is absolutely not.
According to RB this is a simulation of real life in roman times, so you are saying that in roman times the legions had to pay Rome and they recieved no pay for their service to the empire?
That is what it comes down to, is it a simulation of RL like they say or only when it is convenient to them? And it is obviously the latter and apparently that is unacceptable by many people. That frame of thought on their part is running people off.
Stat decay I totaly agree with had been saying for a while now that their are too many folks that are jacks of all trades and that was killing the economy. However not allowing the person to lock their main skills and set other unneeded skill to lower with the decay is a bad move. But the big killer is that they went and did it when it is still a lag fest and people are dieing and losing those hard to earn skills through no fault of their own.
Many wouldn't mind if they could lock their main skills, and only lose the ones that they don't want or need.That is of course untill they run out of them and only have the main ones to lose. It is just poor decision making and timing on RB's part.
But they could be corrected, question is will they ? Doubtfull.
Skills won't be counted towards degrade once they are at 75 and below. Besides that Skill Decay has been way toned down since it was first introduced the only time you might lose a good amount of skills is upon death, and even that is variable as i have died 3 times since the new penalties have been introduced. The game is not a LAG FEST as you call it I have no idea when the last time you've played but that problem has been addressed. Seriously it sounds like you haven't played RV since the first onset of decay, which was fixed quickly and LAG FEST? maybe you need to upgrade your ISP.
I just did the math. My guild is not large but we have many hired NPC's. The monthly guild fees PER PERSON comes out to 43 cents (in U.S. dollars). In game, each person could pick up two logs from the forest and sell them to the NPC merchant to pay for their share of the guild fee. Total time spent: 8 minutes maybe? BTW, tonight I will be selling some leftover, low quality hidescraps to Vepgenus for his legion to use in making the new helmets. That one sale alone will just about pay the fees for my entire guild for the month. Easy. I bought two handcarts from one of his premier crafters last weekend and that sale would pay Vep's total guild fees for two months. I'm sorry, but in my mind, complaints about guild fees are completely unfounded.
Trust me as I had said it is 100% understandable for crafters guilds... But when it comes to legions it is absolutely not.
According to RB this is a simulation of real life in roman times, so you are saying that in roman times the legions had to pay Rome and they recieved no pay for their service to the empire?
That is what it comes down to, is it a simulation of RL like they say or only when it is convenient to them? And it is obviously the latter and apparently that is unacceptable by many people. That frame of thought on their part is running people off.
Stat decay I totaly agree with had been saying for a while now that their are too many folks that are jacks of all trades and that was killing the economy. However not allowing the person to lock their main skills and set other unneeded skill to lower with the decay is a bad move. But the big killer is that they went and did it when it is still a lag fest and people are dieing and losing those hard to earn skills through no fault of their own.
Many wouldn't mind if they could lock their main skills, and only lose the ones that they don't want or need.That is of course untill they run out of them and only have the main ones to lose. It is just poor decision making and timing on RB's part.
But they could be corrected, question is will they ? Doubtfull.
Skills won't be counted towards degrade once they are at 75 and below. Besides that Skill Decay has been way toned down since it was first introduced the only time you might lose a good amount of skills is upon death, and even that is variable as i have died 3 times since the new penalties have been introduced. The game is not a LAG FEST as you call it I have no idea when the last time you've played but that problem has been addressed. Seriously it sounds like you haven't played RV since the first onset of decay, which was fixed quickly and LAG FEST? maybe you need to upgrade your ISP.
Won't drop below 75 is all fine and dandy but when you figure it takes forever grinding that back up (if you have a life) that is unacceptable. Reguardless they need to look to UO on skills, they had it right way back then and RB can't get it anywhere near right after all this time...? I like the depth they went with(alot more skills) but damn the way they are doing things is just dumb. Your "main" skills should not degrade or be lost like that . Sub skills fine degrade away. You should be able to choose a set number of main skills to lock, and be able to unlock and change your skill selections if you decide to go a different route.
As for the lag fest ...yes it is. You might not notice it much atm though, since noone is playing, but yeah it is still there.
As for my ISP it is just fine, never had a problem playing any game.And I don't have a uber rig, but it has never let me down yet. And according to speedtest.net, I am doing pretty well. No complaints here on that . http://www.speedtest.net/summary.php
It's this game...
And it is not just me read a bit you will see many saying the same thing.
Ps: that secont test I ran I used london, from NC usa... lowered my avg a bit, ohh and I am watching tv on my media player and have about 3 different sites I am browsing... not sure if it affects it or not. Just didn't want to close it all and lose my place in the show i am watching and all the other crap I am working on.
And I have said it hundreds of times and I will say it again , this game dosen't suck, it has a ton of potential... but they are taking it down the wrong path listening to the wrong people. That "handfull" they listen to may be paying them a lot of money, only reason everyone else isn't paying is because they can see that they are being ignored and lied to so why pay? Thats why I stoped at $300 or so(in the first 3-4 months), saw it headed to the gutter and didn't want any more of my money to be wasted.
Don't mind Vepgenus. He will say anything to make his mind at ease. You don't notice stat decay because they shut it off. Before the major stat decay deploy there were always a small amount of decay when you got killed. KFR noticed that he lost players to this stat decay so decided to scrap it.
Doesn't take a genius to think that out. But go ahead if it makes you sleep better at night, KFR "tweaked" the stat decay
And I just had to respond to this... Vep says, It's a sad fact but many beta testers of any MMO get burnt out after a while and it's understandable. The cycle with RV is people get mad. They quit, they comes back two weeks later. Why? Because there is nothing on the market like it.
When the real reason they come back is that the game is free to play... or atleast it was. Seems they are trying to change that.
Wake up Vep, wake up...Vep...wake up. Darn, he's off in RV lala land. LOL
You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
You DO however have to VERM if you want any kind of civil response from KFR and/or customer suppoert and/or don't want to get banned from the forums with a nasty comment such as "freeloader, you never contributed anything, then you complain our game is shitty?" when the whole point of the game used to be that you didn't have to, in the past you didn't get badmouthed for not paying RB money... why do we now?
And I just had to respond to this... Vep says, It's a sad fact but many beta testers of any MMO get burnt out after a while and it's understandable. The cycle with RV is people get mad. They quit, they comes back two weeks later. Why? Because there is nothing on the market like it.
When the real reason they come back is that the game is free to play... or atleast it was. Seems they are trying to change that.
Wake up Vep, wake up...Vep...wake up. Darn, he's off in RV lala land. LOL
You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
You DO however have to VERM if you want any kind of civil response from KFR and/or customer suppoert and/or don't want to get banned from the forums with a nasty comment such as "freeloader, you never contributed anything, then you complain our game is shitty?" when the whole point of the game used to be that you didn't have to, in the past you didn't get badmouthed for not paying RB money... why do we now?
So true, used to be F2P but now if you don't pay your opinion is nothing to them and you run the risk of being banned or put down by them.
Strange thing is even when I was verming, max ammount each time BTW, and expressing my opinions and suggestions KFR was extremely rude to me...
I really feel bad for some folks as my comments on the potential of the game and the few features had drew some people from this community into the game. That was a while ago however I opened my eyes quit verming and stoped giving high praise for those few features. Those few were just not enough anymore, especially since they didn't give a damn about their paying customers either....maybe it was because I was only spending $40 a month instead of 100's... on a free to play (supposedly) game.
I still feel this game could be good one day , if they ever listen to the majority of their players, it is however obviously apparent by all of the players here and in their own forums, that they never will. Truely hope I am wrong though. But running players off for having an opinion and for not paying is killing their community and promoting horrible word of mouth in other forums like here.
Honestly I am surprised they haven't been sued yet (because of their harsh treatment of some)as it seems their is good ground to stand on for it. Truely false advertisement would be the big one trying as well as trying to surpress information to continue to rip off unsuspecting players off their hard earned money. (I dunno I am not in law, but sure seems like a good case to me)
The game may be slightly decent with potential, but the management is truely pathetic and is killing any chance that this game will improve. Instead of seeing tons of post on how this game sucks and just banning the posters maybe they should LISTEN for once and improve the damn game...
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I already have a list of ppl that have left for good. Its not some fantasy. Each time it has been related to the game developement as a whole. Some people aren't willing to sit around making logpiles for three years waiting for that one day when they implement a brick house. I wish this game the best, and i'm still here, though without incentive to play, but i'm not gonna ignore the whipsaw manner in which this game is developing.
I remember how many times when a new device is put in it needs certain skills, the only way to get those was to have Kanoth login Longinus and teach them. The list goes on. Especially from the Barbarian side.
We are all aware that nothing is perfect.
The once fabled community is still there, but only in the IRC channels and occasionally some people on the fora. Most are moving on to other games, like Tabula rasa, PotBS, shadowbane, etc... And I can't blame them, in fact I plan on joining themas soon as my ISP fixes my connection.
I won't add any massive rants about the customer-dev relationship and how it's degraded here, because all has been said and done.
The once fabled community is still there, but only in the IRC channels and occasionally some people on the fora. Most are moving on to other games, like Tabula rasa, PotBS, shadowbane, etc... And I can't blame them, in fact I plan on joining themas soon as my ISP fixes my connection.
I won't add any massive rants about the customer-dev relationship and how it's degraded here, because all has been said and done.
lol there is still a great community in RV. We have lost some good guys and hopefully they'll be back, i don' t miss those bad apple's though that account for 85% of those that have left.
The once fabled community is still there, but only in the IRC channels and occasionally some people on the fora. Most are moving on to other games, like Tabula rasa, PotBS, shadowbane, etc... And I can't blame them, in fact I plan on joining themas soon as my ISP fixes my connection.
I won't add any massive rants about the customer-dev relationship and how it's degraded here, because all has been said and done.
lol there is still a great community in RV. We have lost some good guys and hopefully they'll be back, i don' t miss those bad apple's though that account for 85% of those that have left.
Which accounts for 50% of the Roma Victor population.
Well everyone throws around numbers which are complimentary to their arguement. Maybe we really should start a name tally of those that are gone that really did game.
What made this '85%' bad eggs anyway? Please, I doubt it. Unless of course your idea of bad egg is someone who doesn't agree with you and voices their opinion.
Sure that's exactly what i meant!
Seems like it lately. Vep is approaching "Virtus in Gamma" status soon.
surely not that bad!
lol unless vep is investing thousands into this game, it wont make it to next december (not this one, the next one). I would really be amazed if this game has even 200 active players. I quit because of ths shitty combat, and lag, my comp can play anything out there and i freeze up when i go to stab someone .... anyways, it wont make it to 09.
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I'm not investing thousands, maybe a thousand so far, but i'll leave the thousands realm to Augir. shitty combat and lag? did you even bother to update your drivers? go ahead and play other games no one will even know your gone
Was I right about this game becoming more of a PvE? For those that can read the RV forums just look at all the recent battles and adventures.
Roman fighters are now basicly just fighting NPC Bandits and barbarian players are fighting NPC Aux. It is truly sad.
I'm not investing thousands, maybe a thousand so far, but i'll leave the thousands realm to Augir. shitty combat and lag? did you even bother to update your drivers? go ahead and play other games no one will even know your gone
Wow, and I thought I was stupid for wasting $300 on this game... no wonder you are such a fanboi...
If I had wasted that much money on something I would go arround telling everyone it is a master peice too. Atleast now we all know why you don't admit that this game is taking the wrong path, but eventually like everyone else has including me, you will have to face the light and open your eyes. Else you will utterly devastated when this game is shut down and you are out all that money.
Your best bet is to start demanding the changes the majority have been calling for for a long time now. Without the majority this game is doomed, but I think you won't realize that untill it is too late.
But let me help you with your response so you don't have to waste your time.
Roma Victor, is doing fine with out all of you, I am pleased with my investment and will invest more when I can. This game is 100% perfect just the way it is and the path the devs are taking is fine, I just can't see why everyone is leaving this game......
Well Vep, enjoy. LOL
And I just had to respond to this...
Vep says,
It's a sad fact but many beta testers of any MMO get burnt out after a while and it's understandable. The cycle with RV is people get mad. They quit, they comes back two weeks later. Why? Because there is nothing on the market like it.
When the real reason they come back is that the game is free to play... or atleast it was. Seems they are trying to change that.
Wake up Vep, wake up...Vep...wake up. Darn, he's off in RV lala land. LOL
I'm not investing thousands, maybe a thousand so far, but i'll leave the thousands realm to Augir. shitty combat and lag? did you even bother to update your drivers? go ahead and play other games no one will even know your gone
lol first the game actually needs people, before anyone will know im gone.
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You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
Most of us already have a JOB IRL , and that is the main reason not many people want to be crafters... Crafting in this game takes about as much time as our RL JOB does.
Hence the reason most people want to be fighters. But in this new update even the legions have to pay a fee to maintain their guild... and that is entirely backward. Rome would be paying their legionaires to fight and protect it's land's, it is not the other way arround.
Rome was smart enough to know that the money that they pay to their legions would in turn be put back into it's economy when they buy and maintain their gear and food as well as their wants...like alchohol(that we have yet to see).
The crafters would be paying more for protection since they would be making a killing off the soldiers and the rest of the population so that is understandable. But IMO the fees and the extreme craft times is a slap in the face to them as well.
There are some concepts for ya to ponder... too bad RB didn't even take them into consideration at all when implementing this fee.
Hey legionare go out there and dodge those blades or even die for this land, ohh and pay me some money and while you are at it gather some goat shit into a pile and sell it.... I bet people would line up for miles to join...how bout you?
I just did the math. My guild is not large but we have many hired NPC's. The monthly guild fees PER PERSON comes out to 43 cents (in U.S. dollars). In game, each person could pick up two logs from the forest and sell them to the NPC merchant to pay for their share of the guild fee. Total time spent: 8 minutes maybe?
BTW, tonight I will be selling some leftover, low quality hidescraps to Vepgenus for his legion to use in making the new helmets. That one sale alone will just about pay the fees for my entire guild for the month. Easy. I bought two handcarts from one of his premier crafters last weekend and that sale would pay Vep's total guild fees for two months.
I'm sorry, but in my mind, complaints about guild fees are completely unfounded.
Trust me as I had said it is 100% understandable for crafters guilds... But when it comes to legions it is absolutely not.
According to RB this is a simulation of real life in roman times, so you are saying that in roman times the legions had to pay Rome and they recieved no pay for their service to the empire?
That is what it comes down to, is it a simulation of RL like they say or only when it is convenient to them? And it is obviously the latter and apparently that is unacceptable by many people. That frame of thought on their part is running people off.
Stat decay I totaly agree with had been saying for a while now that their are too many folks that are jacks of all trades and that was killing the economy. However not allowing the person to lock their main skills and set other unneeded skill to lower with the decay is a bad move. But the big killer is that they went and did it when it is still a lag fest and people are dieing and losing those hard to earn skills through no fault of their own.
Many wouldn't mind if they could lock their main skills, and only lose the ones that they don't want or need.That is of course untill they run out of them and only have the main ones to lose. It is just poor decision making and timing on RB's part.
But they could be corrected, question is will they ? Doubtfull.
Trust me as I had said it is 100% understandable for crafters guilds... But when it comes to legions it is absolutely not.
According to RB this is a simulation of real life in roman times, so you are saying that in roman times the legions had to pay Rome and they recieved no pay for their service to the empire?
That is what it comes down to, is it a simulation of RL like they say or only when it is convenient to them? And it is obviously the latter and apparently that is unacceptable by many people. That frame of thought on their part is running people off.
Stat decay I totaly agree with had been saying for a while now that their are too many folks that are jacks of all trades and that was killing the economy. However not allowing the person to lock their main skills and set other unneeded skill to lower with the decay is a bad move. But the big killer is that they went and did it when it is still a lag fest and people are dieing and losing those hard to earn skills through no fault of their own.
Many wouldn't mind if they could lock their main skills, and only lose the ones that they don't want or need.That is of course untill they run out of them and only have the main ones to lose. It is just poor decision making and timing on RB's part.
But they could be corrected, question is will they ? Doubtfull.
Skills won't be counted towards degrade once they are at 75 and below. Besides that Skill Decay has been way toned down since it was first introduced the only time you might lose a good amount of skills is upon death, and even that is variable as i have died 3 times since the new penalties have been introduced. The game is not a LAG FEST as you call it I have no idea when the last time you've played but that problem has been addressed. Seriously it sounds like you haven't played RV since the first onset of decay, which was fixed quickly and LAG FEST? maybe you need to upgrade your ISP.
Trust me as I had said it is 100% understandable for crafters guilds... But when it comes to legions it is absolutely not.
According to RB this is a simulation of real life in roman times, so you are saying that in roman times the legions had to pay Rome and they recieved no pay for their service to the empire?
That is what it comes down to, is it a simulation of RL like they say or only when it is convenient to them? And it is obviously the latter and apparently that is unacceptable by many people. That frame of thought on their part is running people off.
Stat decay I totaly agree with had been saying for a while now that their are too many folks that are jacks of all trades and that was killing the economy. However not allowing the person to lock their main skills and set other unneeded skill to lower with the decay is a bad move. But the big killer is that they went and did it when it is still a lag fest and people are dieing and losing those hard to earn skills through no fault of their own.
Many wouldn't mind if they could lock their main skills, and only lose the ones that they don't want or need.That is of course untill they run out of them and only have the main ones to lose. It is just poor decision making and timing on RB's part.
But they could be corrected, question is will they ? Doubtfull.
Skills won't be counted towards degrade once they are at 75 and below. Besides that Skill Decay has been way toned down since it was first introduced the only time you might lose a good amount of skills is upon death, and even that is variable as i have died 3 times since the new penalties have been introduced. The game is not a LAG FEST as you call it I have no idea when the last time you've played but that problem has been addressed. Seriously it sounds like you haven't played RV since the first onset of decay, which was fixed quickly and LAG FEST? maybe you need to upgrade your ISP.
Won't drop below 75 is all fine and dandy but when you figure it takes forever grinding that back up (if you have a life) that is unacceptable. Reguardless they need to look to UO on skills, they had it right way back then and RB can't get it anywhere near right after all this time...? I like the depth they went with(alot more skills) but damn the way they are doing things is just dumb. Your "main" skills should not degrade or be lost like that . Sub skills fine degrade away. You should be able to choose a set number of main skills to lock, and be able to unlock and change your skill selections if you decide to go a different route.
As for the lag fest ...yes it is. You might not notice it much atm though, since noone is playing, but yeah it is still there.
As for my ISP it is just fine, never had a problem playing any game.And I don't have a uber rig, but it has never let me down yet. And according to speedtest.net, I am doing pretty well. No complaints here on that . http://www.speedtest.net/summary.php
It's this game...
And it is not just me read a bit you will see many saying the same thing.
Ps: that secont test I ran I used london, from NC usa... lowered my avg a bit, ohh and I am watching tv on my media player and have about 3 different sites I am browsing... not sure if it affects it or not. Just didn't want to close it all and lose my place in the show i am watching and all the other crap I am working on.
And I have said it hundreds of times and I will say it again , this game dosen't suck, it has a ton of potential... but they are taking it down the wrong path listening to the wrong people. That "handfull" they listen to may be paying them a lot of money, only reason everyone else isn't paying is because they can see that they are being ignored and lied to so why pay? Thats why I stoped at $300 or so(in the first 3-4 months), saw it headed to the gutter and didn't want any more of my money to be wasted.
Don't mind Vepgenus. He will say anything to make his mind at ease. You don't notice stat decay because they shut it off. Before the major stat decay deploy there were always a small amount of decay when you got killed. KFR noticed that he lost players to this stat decay so decided to scrap it.
Doesn't take a genius to think that out. But go ahead if it makes you sleep better at night, KFR "tweaked" the stat decay
You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
You DO however have to VERM if you want any kind of civil response from KFR and/or customer suppoert and/or don't want to get banned from the forums with a nasty comment such as "freeloader, you never contributed anything, then you complain our game is shitty?" when the whole point of the game used to be that you didn't have to, in the past you didn't get badmouthed for not paying RB money... why do we now?
You don't have to VERM if you don't want to. Also there is a thing called a JOB. It's wonderful because you actually get MONEY to spend for working. What a concept!
You DO however have to VERM if you want any kind of civil response from KFR and/or customer suppoert and/or don't want to get banned from the forums with a nasty comment such as "freeloader, you never contributed anything, then you complain our game is shitty?" when the whole point of the game used to be that you didn't have to, in the past you didn't get badmouthed for not paying RB money... why do we now?
So true, used to be F2P but now if you don't pay your opinion is nothing to them and you run the risk of being banned or put down by them.
Strange thing is even when I was verming, max ammount each time BTW, and expressing my opinions and suggestions KFR was extremely rude to me...
I really feel bad for some folks as my comments on the potential of the game and the few features had drew some people from this community into the game. That was a while ago however I opened my eyes quit verming and stoped giving high praise for those few features. Those few were just not enough anymore, especially since they didn't give a damn about their paying customers either....maybe it was because I was only spending $40 a month instead of 100's... on a free to play (supposedly) game.
I still feel this game could be good one day , if they ever listen to the majority of their players, it is however obviously apparent by all of the players here and in their own forums, that they never will. Truely hope I am wrong though. But running players off for having an opinion and for not paying is killing their community and promoting horrible word of mouth in other forums like here.
Honestly I am surprised they haven't been sued yet (because of their harsh treatment of some)as it seems their is good ground to stand on for it. Truely false advertisement would be the big one trying as well as trying to surpress information to continue to rip off unsuspecting players off their hard earned money. (I dunno I am not in law, but sure seems like a good case to me)
The game may be slightly decent with potential, but the management is truely pathetic and is killing any chance that this game will improve. Instead of seeing tons of post on how this game sucks and just banning the posters maybe they should LISTEN for once and improve the damn game...
surely not that bad!
I think he is way beyond that...after all, he is verming, i never did