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omg who cares how many ppl play lotro so stop it with these threads
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cause i mean honestly do you care how many people play lotro? like i mean yah sure it would matter but i mean do you care for a certain large number?
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Numbers and size are everything.
Duh.
Although seriously, I couldn't give a shit; as long as there's people to play with and enough people subscribed to keep the game afloat.
Doesn't matter if you have millions or only a few hundred thousand...current server technology means that you're probably going to be playing with the same amount of people per server no matter what.
Honestly, I concur. You'd think we were trying to solve world hunger or something. It's becoming idiotic.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
QFT!
I was actually tempted to start a topic with almost the exact same title (and poll
My guess is that playing clever with totally invalidated "subscriber numbers" is just about the only tool for trolls left to play with: they can't attack the game's instabilty (there is none), can't attack performance (it is silky smooth on most average PC's) can't attack graphics (just bought a 8800 GTS, the game is freaking awesome to look at on Ultra High!!) , can't attack game mechanics (not revolutionary but excellent) and can't attack content (due to the regular _free_ expansions). So what can be attacked? Irrealistic subscribers number expectations - if there is such a thing at all :P
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
If LoTRO has less the 400,000 players I will be forced to quit the game immediately! I must play a game that is popular!
What I want to know is...
Why doesnt any other game harness as much criticism or scrutiny? (except for Vanguard)
What is it about LOTRO that seems to pull everyone out to either devote their love or hate for?
Can't be sales...as GW or CoH/CoV does not garner this type of attitude
Can't be playabilty...as every other game and their mechanics does not get this type of heat....except maybe WoW...but then they have the numbers to pull in so many people to profess their opinion...
Anyone want to wager a guess as to why LOTRO and Turbine are getting this much flak?
Could it be because their last two games were stinkers (AC2 and DDO?)
Thanks
Or how they try to fool us with twisted numbers (4 mill chars.. cough cough).
eqnext.wikia.com
*sniff* *sniff* I smell a troll!
Trolls indeed!
I agree. I smell many trolls!
lol
Maybe it's the fish...yea...some fishing is going on here right now...
So, you smell fish
lol rofl
It's not about how many play, it's about how much fun those have that play.
Maybe it's the fish...yea...some fishing is going on here right now...
So, you smell fish
Hmm, can't be LOTRO, because there is no fishing still!
Are you kidding?
This isn't a Turbine thing. Take a look at this site in the past year.... any games that have been released recently have been subject to the scrutiny that LOTRO has. The older games don't matter.. it just seems that the newer ones are getting it handed to them.. no matter how good the game actually is.
It's the community.. especially on this site. People would rather go from forum to forum bitching about games they hate rather than post about games they actually enjoy.
As soon as AOC and WAR are released, you'll see the same thing with them too.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Very true JonMichael.
Yeah I dont care. I can't care less about Lotro numbers, or Wow numbers, or EQ2 numbers, or [Insert your favorite game here]
Unfortunately for this site, the fanbase of mmorpgs is extremely immature at times.
The average gamer on this site plays 1 or 2 games at a time and will relelntlessly bash every other game out there. It some sort of ego thing I guess, they cant admit that maybe its a good game but just it isnt for them.
Its an industry problem really.
People act like there has to be ONE game thats good and its the game they play or plan to play upon release. NO OTHER game could possibly be good or else they would be playing it! Oh and btw...when the day comes that they do leave the ONE game they play, that game is then demoted to the pile of JUNK that is every MMO they dont play.
Take WoW for example. How many hypocrits are there out there regarding this game.Ive been a part of the MMo community since the day mmos started popping up. It was easily the most anticipated MMO ive ever seen and also had what i would consider the smoothest large scale launch I have ever seen. Almost everyone here played relentlessly for a long time and enjoyed every minute of it. But read these forums today about it and hear the rants. Ever play in a beta of any game since wow? I swear all people do in betas is sit there in general chat and bash WOW. Its as it the day they left a switch clicked in their minds and the game instantly was moved to a junk pile. Therefor, anyone left playing the game must be an idiot.
Ill freely admit the Lotro isnt the game for me, but that doesnt make it a bad game and i actually hope it thrives. I want to see a day when there are multiple games on the market thriving at the same time. I want there to be enoough options out there that every gamer finds the game for them.
Or how they try to fool us with twisted numbers (4 mill chars.. cough cough).
Surely Matraque, being a Vanguard Subscriber and Fan....you are not used to Twisted Truths and lies at all are you?.......Surely Not?
;-)
Best Regards
Magpie
Are you kidding?
This isn't a Turbine thing. Take a look at this site in the past year.... any games that have been released recently have been subject to the scrutiny that LOTRO has. The older games don't matter.. it just seems that the newer ones are getting it handed to them.. no matter how good the game actually is.
It's the community.. especially on this site. People would rather go from forum to forum bitching about games they hate rather than post about games they actually enjoy.
As soon as AOC and WAR are released, you'll see the same thing with them too.
QFT!Bookmark this post of JonMichael's so you will be able to post it in the AoC and WAR forums a month or two after they are released.
Are you kidding?
This isn't a Turbine thing. Take a look at this site in the past year.... any games that have been released recently have been subject to the scrutiny that LOTRO has. The older games don't matter.. it just seems that the newer ones are getting it handed to them.. no matter how good the game actually is.
It's the community.. especially on this site. People would rather go from forum to forum bitching about games they hate rather than post about games they actually enjoy.
As soon as AOC and WAR are released, you'll see the same thing with them too.
But, there has only been one other major release this year...Vanguard..(mind you, I mean a major.."Hey, I have my eye on YOU" release)
No other game has been released...but, we have Tabula Rasa coming that is going to be talked about...so, lets use that game as a benchmark then...
We will see how many NCSoft post there is, and how many slam NCSoft....and then numbers for TR...
Of course that game is a train wreck waiting to happen...so, then we will have 3 games that will be heavily criticised and scrutinized...and seeing TR as being a Richard Garriott title forces it into the public eye a little more, and will make it fodder for the masses to rip apart.
But, they also may not pull the whole "Were No.2" thing...and that is where all of these issues stem from. A lot of people see LOTRO as boring and not many people joining or playing...while the other camp see's a loved license, and a game they think "One upped" WoW for ease of play, and improved mechanics...so, the reason for such vehement discussion..
If Turbine would not have pulled the whole "4 million characters" statement, I bet this would not be a hot topic...but by making such a big blunder because they wanted to be seen in the same light as Blizzard really makes them look cheap...
So, it is not so much the community as Turbine pulling numbers outta their butts, and trying to make themselves look like the "Uber MMO"
I still blame Turbine myself...
Cheers!
Are you kidding?
This isn't a Turbine thing. Take a look at this site in the past year.... any games that have been released recently have been subject to the scrutiny that LOTRO has. The older games don't matter.. it just seems that the newer ones are getting it handed to them.. no matter how good the game actually is.
It's the community.. especially on this site. People would rather go from forum to forum bitching about games they hate rather than post about games they actually enjoy.
As soon as AOC and WAR are released, you'll see the same thing with them too.
QFT!Bookmark this post of JonMichael's so you will be able to post it in the AoC and WAR forums a month or two after they are released.
I sure do not doubt they will be talking about these games. Why?...They are also "High Profile"...and when someone makes claims to greatness, they better be ready to back it up with some real world data..
As I stated in my previous post, take Tabula Rasa...this game is headed for a big lose...why? Is it not fun...no, it is actually pretty fun...does the performance suck? No...
Then why will it be talked about?...Because they made a blunder of making themselves out to be something better than they truly are...with the "Next Gen" MMO talk, and we are getting rid of grind, blah blah...all false...
Same thing with Turbine...it is not the communities fault here...it is all of these companies spouting off and making either erroneous statements or inflated statements or just using what looks good to make their game something better than it really is...why they had to use "We have 4 million characters" instead of "Based on sales, we are number two right behind WoW"....which one would look better really?
This discussion is all about business practices...
And who cares? People who are sick and tired of high claims...
Perfect example? Fable...talk about a game that was so hyped by Peter himself...and then imagine everyones surprise when the game came out, and it did not meet the expectations set. It was a good game...but that was clouded by all the "The game will have this or that" quotes...which were NOT there..
Same for Tabula Rasa...high claims...that they cannot meet...and what do you think people will remember...? All those claims, and not the fact that "Hey, this game is kinda fun, as it does a couple of new things"...
So..I still blame Turbine for the reason this discussion is even taking place...
Cheers!
How about we stop with the WoW is the best because it has 8 million subscribers crap as well, it's not like 8 million people make up the world's population and views is it? Yeesh...
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Especially because that 8 or 9 million number isn't all westerners. Its always funny how the asian hater crowd likes to throw that number around but in fact most of those players are asian. How many WoW players are actually western or North American? North Americans only account for what, 2 or 2.5 million? (not that, that is a small number but its way off that 8 or 9 million)
Its "ok" to quote WoW its worldwide number to support an epeen statement but lord forbid you reference L2's or FFXI worldwide number...thats an entirely different story now, isn't it? Those don't count suddenly because they don't like the game.
Its nothing but spin anyway.
The trolling of LOTRO came way before the numbers were released... it was even happening before the *game* was released.
It's the nature of the MMO community, specifically this site's community. They spend all their time trashing games they don't like or aren't even playing rather than discussing the good things about games they actually like.
Let's take you for example, Openedge. You don't play LOTRO anymore, right? You play EQ2?
So what's your fascination with the subscription numbers of LOTRO? Why not post in the EQ2 forums about things you like about that game rather than coming here and posting about a game you no longer like and about a company you don't like?
I just don't get it.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
I did...not more than 30 minutes ago...about how much I enjoy EQ2's features, specifically the ability to look at my characters data online, which was promised by Turbine, but never delivered
But, I also play GW, I have played WoW on and off, Tabula Rasa, etc...
So, according to your post, I am not allowed to post here or within any other forum, as EQ2 is my current game. Even though I do have an interest in this game, as I enjoyed the concept, but did not like the delivery? I like the setting, but had issues with the UI, performance, animations and tech support?..I cannot post any thought about this?
I continue to come here in hopes of seeing maybe this issue or that issue has been fixed, so I could try it again..
And as I continue to come here, I decide to post in various threads about this or that issue...as it can vary.
But, because I don't PLAY it anymore, my voice is not allowed to be heard? That is narrow minded in my opinion..Could you imagine if no one spoke up about issues in the world? Our Presidents would be corrupt, World leaders would be tyrants....the economy would fall...if people only payed attention to their own little world...
My hopes are discussion will lead to intuition to lead to realization...whether it be a player, non-player, someone who is interested in LOTRO, EQ2, WoW, GW, whatever...that maybe there is an issue with a company that stretches the truth a bit...can we say Enron?
And as a final example...how much did you play Gods and Heroes? Yet, you have posted within their forum? This makes your post Hypocritical...
A forum is just that, a place to have an open discussion. As long as I do not slam you the poster, or flame you, or start a trolling thread...then I am within my rights to be here, and make any statement I wish..
Just don't let it bother you...
Cheers!