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Blizzard = New SOE
Scalebane
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so i come to rant more 
, anyways blizzard releases patch 2.2 and it screws up people big time, not all but alot of them, you should see the tech forums. Instead of seperatly testing a new sound engine upgrade they dumped it on the community not thoroughly tested and just seemed to expect us to accept it, even tho for alot of us, the sound is so crappy now, its hard to even play the game.
So yeah, i tend to feel they are taking a page from the SOE and act like nothing has happened and seem to be hoping people just forget about it, no word on anything, just check our next patch, which didn't fix a damn thing just made things worse, i'm getting really disgusted with blizzard, i expect better then this.
why would a company just dump crap onto a game, like forcing us to test it for them, that's pretty shitty, they shouldn't charge us a dime while they fix up their screwup...my patience is wearing thin...
EDIT: COMPARING SOE AND BLIZZS CUSTOMER SERVICE, WHICH FAILS ON BOTH COUNTS. THIS NEEDED POSTING BECAUSE PEOPLE FAIL, AND I WASN'T CLEAR ENOUGH SO I FAIL WITH THEM 
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
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I for one think the new sound engine is much better then the old one.
If so, were you aware that anyone can login into the test server and try out there hardware with the patch prior to it going live?
If so, why didn't you take the time to log into the test server and try it out?
Now, you might argue you shouldn't have to and I won't totally disagree with you. However, if you decide that your time is too important to do that, than I think you give up the right to complain about the patch after it goes live when you in fact had a chance to test it yourself and didn't bother to do it. So while I sympathize with you that it's not working well for you, but to ensinuate that Blizzard should have tested it, they in fact tested it extremely thoroughly and even offered a test server for you to test it yourself and give them feedback. They did everything they could to ensure it's right for as many people as possible. And I think you're exaggerating the number of people who are having problems. It's caused a few problems I'm sure and those people that it has caused problems for have been very vocal. Too bad the people who haven't had any problems aren't more vocal about it. Personally, I haven't had a single problem.
yep i did test and told them their was sound issues, just like alot of others did, but they still dumped the crap sound engine on people. your right i don't have to test but i still do, but whats the use if they don't listen, and i'm not exaggerating, take a look at the tech forums and mac tech, 2.2 failed, 2.2.3 failed, now 2.3 is coming up, will that fail? i'm think it probably will.
How much are they paying these people to develop their game, they seem to need more training or something, the sound engine upgrade should have bee done on the side and tested for months and months, but they just pushed it out not ready and all, i'll look for the link but they even admitted on the creative labs forums that they couldn't enable certain things in time, which is lame, any company would fire people for being half-assed like these devs.
i'm glad your sound is fine but with in game missing sounds, and people with 5.1 systems not being able to use them, they basically downgraded the sound to crap. i love blizzard and their games, but for some reason they are becoming bad at testing, some of us help but its blizzards job to make sure everything is working right, and they can't even get that straight, then they don't even let their customers know what going on, whoever told them silence would be the best bet is a moron.
i'm giving them a chance, but i expected more from blizzard, they have always been top notch in their development, now they seem to fail left and right, i am giving them a chance, but with other games on the horizon, why should i pay for a game that isn't working properly, when i can pay for one that is, with devs that have a clue.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
I dunno, if many people (if in fact, not most) are able to play the game fine, and your having trouble...then the problem really lies with... you?
Dev's don't always have to make sure their games are compatible with every card and driver out there...in fact, they are within their rights to make changes and expect you to change your system to what they approve of.
You of course are always within your rights to cancel at any time....
But calling Blizzard = SOE? Please, thats a huge exaggeration and not worthy of a post.
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well you know its funny since, nobody had problems to blizzard released the 2.2 patch, my sound works perfectly fine in every other game i play, problem is on blizzards side, not mine.
perhaps they should hire some people who know how to code?
imo they are acting like SOE, blizzard used to talk to their players, now they only post in useless topics, anyways feels good to rant, and i havn't been rude to them yet, like i said i'm giving them a chance, and if you don't find a post worth posting in, then don't bother eh
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
I did see quite a few sound threads when the patch was released, but it looks like most of the issues had to do with the settings on people's PC's. When people went in and adjusted them (like turning off surround sound if they didn't actually have surround sound) that seemed to fix it. The one sticky that's up about sound now and says to post a reply to that thread if they are still having problems has only 1 post.
What exactly is the problem you are having and perhaps I can direct you to a post that will help.
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well there are more topics, seriously, but its been how many weeks since 2.2 and the forums move like crazy anyways, i have tried all their fixes, i actually got my surround sound working and such, the problem is in-game sounds are missing, combat sounds and others, blizzard already admitted this was a problem, and 2.2.3 was supposed to fix this, but it didn't do anything, except for some reason screw up mac users lol...really don't mind me, i needed to vent some steam off, like i said i'm giving them a chance, i know they are better then this, but seems they can't get it together, and they would save alot of QQing if the would make a post about whats up.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288051409&sid=1&pageNo=1
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2200230322&sid=1&pageNo=1
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2035714647&sid=1&pageNo=1
three threads on bring hardware sound back, now i really don't care about hardware/software sound argument, these posts had quite a few talking about how bad the sound was, some don't want the sound engine to be software, they want hardware sound, i know the change was partially made becuase of vista users, /puke...their are more on the tech, just gotta go back a few weeks.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
also for some reason people who just used regular 2 speaker setup didn't get issues, the in-game missing sounds are on blizzards end, i need to find them creative labs posts...
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
you know, its pretty simple to fix. but since youre just trying to cause drama by posting threads that are titled things like blizzard = the new soe
i think instead of helping you, ill let you suuu suuuu suuu suuu suuuuu
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yeah its so easy to fix thats why blizzard devs can't fix it yet
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778515969&sid=1&pageNo=1
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Now I dont like WoW in the least but calling blizzard the next SOE is plain stupid. Screwing up someones sound and changing a game completely which makes it worse is 2 totally diffrent things. SOE screwed up with SWG to the point where they lost a good majority of there subscribers for that game. Blizzard wont loose millions of players because of fubar sound. Hell I bet if you made a poll on how many people actually listned to the sound in game anymore past the first month or 2 you would find most players listne to mp3's or have the tv on in the backround when they are playing.
well the name of the post isnt the best, i really wasn't comparing it to the nge crap, i meant it more like they just arent listening at all, that aside, changing the games sound engine is a major change to a game, especially since they didn't do it right, i can link more and more posts and have talked to alot who do not post, sound is important to alot of people, especially if you pvp too, now that in game sounds are so screwed up broken, like not playing at all its making the game to frustrating to play, the sound is part of the enjoyment, not for everbody but for alot it is. Raids are having some issues also as some sounds where kinda like que's.
If i could change the topic i would word it better but their behavior is SOE like more and more, imo anyways.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
It's probably your sound card/motherboard. I heard a lot of cards that use the Creative chipset have problems with the new WoW sound engine.
yeah apparently blizzard told the creative labs rep that they didn't have time to enable hws in fmod, which is the sound engine they use. other chipsets are having issues also, but seems alot of x-fi cards are.
i gotta go out for abit, i'm sure when i come back i will see tons of flames :P
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
haha 9 million people play wow and a handful have a complaint/issued with a major patch...big deal it'll get fixed. i don't know how you could say 2.2 is a failure and you question 2.3?? have you read the patch notes for 2.3 it's easily the best patch yet.
I am sure that Blizzard are so glad to hear that you are giving them a chance to sort the problems out, lol.
I, personally haven't been affected by any major sound issues at all since the patch, apart from the odd missing single shot sound when playing my hunter but that used to happen before from time to time too.
As far as failing left and right is concerned, i think that may be on the side of blowing things out of proportion a little, don't you think? I was annoyed at a few little bugs that occured on the patch day, but it was all pretty much sorted the day after, which is pretty damned good if you ask me (If only Microsoft were so fast).
Unfortunately in development, no matter how good a job you do there is no way to anticipate how every one of the millions of system configurations out there are going to react to a change in the software. Yes, you may well have reported a problem with your particular set up, but if you were in a miniscule minority of testers then it may well have been within tolerance to release the patch. You also need to understand that it is also not as simple an issue as it may sound to track problems like this down as it could be an obscure issue with another part of the software that is causing a sound glitch in particular systems and not the actual sound routines themselves.
I am in no way belittling your issue, but in the wider context i think it is pushing it a bit to call the game 'non-playable' due to it.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
for a reason. The people that are QQing should have used the PTR time to test there sound cards with the sound engine. I tested my sound card on the PTR and it worked fine.
I for one don't care about the people QQing cause they didn't botehr to take an hour out of there WoW time to test on the PTR.
2.2.3 is dumber then 2.2
There's always going to be some issues with any patch, by a few people or a few thousand, it all depends on the hardware.
I personally think the new sound is better than before & my wife's PC uses a SoundBlaster card with no issue. So, you see, lets not always be so quick to throw the blame to the easiest target.
If by "haven't been rude" you mean "called them names publicly" then yes, you did.
If by "giving them a chance" you mean "crucifying them publicly for something not within their control" then yes, you are.
Congratulations, and we're all glad you feel better, but you aren't accomplishing anything by posting here. Instead, you've made yourself look bad, in a number of different ways.
sound was fine before 2.2, have never changed anything, sound failed after, pretty sure i know who's fault it is, especially when those of us who got screwed on this, had to find out on a 3rd party site what went wrong, pretty sad blizzard can't even talk to its customers, i may have ranted here, but i have stayed cool on the forums there, and have been polite enough.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
If by "haven't been rude" you mean "called them names publicly" then yes, you did.
If by "giving them a chance" you mean "crucifying them publicly for something not within their control" then yes, you are.
Congratulations, and we're all glad you feel better, but you aren't accomplishing anything by posting here. Instead, you've made yourself look bad, in a number of different ways.
never cared about what anybody on any forum thought anyways. But i do always forgot how people will bend over for blizzard any chance they get.
They get what they deserve in bad publicity by disrespecting their customers, i'll never just let a company treat people bad without calling them out on it, i'm sure i don't matter blah blah blah yeah i've heard it all before, but apparently bad pr does matter.
Also find it funny if others aren't having issues its always who gives a crap about you, i'm running just fine lololol. mmo's always have such great communities
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Maybe just maybe they were testing the new sound engine inna normal live server enviroment. Ever stop to think?
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Shut the hell up with the SOE crap!!!! You have never obvioulsy played SWG from the get go so stop. The "OMG THIS GAME IS JUST LIKE SOE!!!" shit has got to stop its just a catch phrase that attention whores are using now. People over exaderate and spew SOE claims just to thump their chests and say "SEE I SAID THAT ABOUT THEM, IM A BADASS!!" Has Blizzard changed the whole combat system?!?! NO they put out a crappy patch NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!
I dont care what you say the whole SOE bashing needs to stop!!!! Time to grow up people and move on, people are forgeting the last letter in MMORPG.....which is...wait for it......GAME!!!!! Get a grip on reality for fuck sake!!!
and this coming from someone who has to whine, b$%ch, and complain while defending the whole thread....bravo
Ive played SWG, and WoW...and i can also agree with the person that this guy that i quoted freaked out on. Sorry dude, but doing the tough guy wanna be 15 yr old thing isnt going to get you very far...and it isnt "cool" but when you said this "people are forgeting the last letter in MMORPG.....which is...wait for it......GAME!!!!! Get a grip on reality for fuck sake!!!" really good show of example *claps* KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!
Back to the actual important topic...this thread.
I do agree...i never really liked SOE, and now i dont really like blizzard (ooooo now thats a surprise) i stopped liking WoW mainly because of many many reasons but its too boring to get into detail...in simple terms: the game just plainly sucks. I mean come on seriously, why would i want to waste my time in a virtual world that is overrun with immature "ithinkimsocoolandbetterthanyoulookatmylvl70pallyomfg!!!" players. Its a joke...and jus tlike SOE did, blizzard is taking a once really good franchise and ruining it because they can. Ive been following on the lore since WC1 and by the time WoW comes along everything got redone and screwed up. I play games to immerse my self in the world's history...to make a character that will (in my own travels by questing and such) make their own history in that world...this world is so messed up im surprised that it still functions. But nuff said from me, im just giving my own opinions, unlike mr ihatetheworldimcoolerthanyouall who i quoted off of.