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Al Gore wins the Nobel Peace Prize ??????
Razorback
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/us/politics/12cnd-future.html?hp
All I can say is....
Your havin a f%^&en laugh...... you just cant be serious.
Young peple in 30 or so years time will look back and say, how could so many people be sucked in so easily...
Congratulations to the Nobel judges for completely undermining the credibility of thier awards. Nice work.
And on a related note.... who the F%$# would call their child Tipper ???
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Al Gore has done nothing but help global warming. Please tell me why you think this award was not deserved. No flames will follow, just constructive critizism.
I dont need to say anything.
I will simply ask you to do two things.
Firstly wait 20-50 years and see if we still have polar icecaps and dont have hundreds of millions of so called "environmental refugees". If Im wrong, I apologise to you, people who think like you and everyone involved with the Co2 driven Global Warming theory, for ever calling you all nutbags, that wouldnt understand evidence based science if it bit you on the a$$.
If however none of those things come to pass.... I already accept your apology for being one of the people that fed into the BS. Im sure your a decent person and I know you , like me, would be man enough to admit when your wrong.
Secondly I would ask you to read this.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/corporate_law/article2633838.ece
Particualrly focussing on the findings of the judge.
If Al Gore was around 250 years ago he would be hawking snake oil in a travelling side show....
If you were around 250 years ago you would be buying it and rubbing it on yourself and feeling better because you didnt realise what a Placebo is.
I simply expect that people who win the Nobel Peace Prize would have actually done something decent to earn it.... thats all.
I mean have a look at this list
http://www.nobelprizes.com/nobel/peace/peace.html
It absolutley undermines and cheapens the award that names like Nelson Mandeala and Mother Teresa are now accompanied by Al Gore....
Any minute now someone is going to go "April Fool" because it just cant be true.
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
I will get back to you in 2060.
Instead of honoring Gore for the achievement, those who cannot accept it are simply reduced to the dirty task of attacking the integrity of the Nobel Peace Prize, and that's a disgrace. It's also an act of desperation.
If you can't accept global warming, the best way to defend your position is by attacking everyone who speaks out about it. I believe that it is the most important issue of our time.
Opponents of global warming, supporters of the young Earth theory and similar are quick to produce small numbers of dissenting scientific opinions and raise these opinions on a platform, claiming that these are justifications for flat-out smackdown of the rest of the scientific community.
Razorback said:
Firstly wait 20-50 years and see if we still have polar icecaps and dont have hundreds of millions of so called "environmental refugees". If Im wrong, I apologise to you, people who think like you and everyone involved with the Co2 driven Global Warming theory, for ever calling you all nutbags, that wouldnt understand evidence based science if it bit you on the a$$.
On what authority do you say that people who don't believe what you do cannot understand science? The same fools who place so-called "Christian Scientists" on a pedestal for saying that the Earth is 5,000 years old, who reduce global warming to a "communist" plot? I think you are mistaken. The debate is no longer about whether or not global warming exists, but about how severe it is and the extent to which carbon emissions affect it.
Furthermore, you'd entertain the possibility of global instability and reduce it to an "apology" if you're wrong? Even if global warming is natural, is it entirely unreasonable to try and do something about it?
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Gore '08
The earth has no perfect temperature,for man to think he can change or manipulate weather is just arrogant ! Evan if you could, china is brining a coal fired power plant online every week for the next 5 yrs without clean scrubbers on them.What is the greenies going to do ! Tell the communist they can't burn coal ! 30 percent of LA pollution comes from china,even if every person in the US rode a bike to work it wouldn't matter a hill of beans.The green movement is more about a small majority of earth worshipers controlling how we live and what we do.Just like the politically correct movement trying to stop speech they dont like.It's all about controlling....
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Indeed.. what really made me wonder was how this guy lost to G-Dub.. Don't gimme that hanging chad shit either.. I mean, Gore must have been token during the entire election or something. Cmon now, we have a guy who can manipulate scads of people into believing in global warming, and wining himself a peace prize, but he can't win a presidency- he's a freakin master of deception (sounds like some sort of metal album).
Those few lines alone are enought to support my claim that most people wouldnt understand science if it bit them on thr a$$.
Thanks for proving my point.
I guess your gonna say the British Judiciary is funded by oil companies ?
Dont let that foil hat get to tight...
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
How does that, at all, prove your point? It doesn't! You're just trolling now. Because you didn't agree with the award, you're attacking it.
I think it's quite shameful that the lot of you dismiss global warming as some sort of scare tactic to control people. That doesn't even make sense. There's nothing that anyone could possibly gain from raising environmental awareness.
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Gore '08
Global Warming.... the most important issue of our time...
Millions of starving africans would probably dispute that.
But you people never let facts get in the way of a good story. Just like the court ruling said.
And "nothing to gain by raising environmental awareness"
Well apart from the billions of dollars green groups and scare groups get.... no ...nothing...
Your living in a fantasy realm my friend
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Oh wow, so, we're at the point where, "I can think of a problem bigger than yours" is scientific rebuttal? Yeah, the fact that millions of people are starving is terrible, and it's of course, more immediate. But you're going to say that I listen to no scientific evidence because there exist many really bad problems in the world and I'm picking one? Does that make sense?
People who are profiting off of this are criminals, if, indeed, that is happening.
Fantasy world? Dude, I'm invested in reality. I don't even understand your motivation.
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Gore '08
You have just admitted there are more immediate problems facing the world and I thank you for that breif foray into the real world.
My motivation is I dont like being bullshitted too.... if you do thats fine.
Al Gore is a Bullshitter..... plain and simple and now its been proven in the British high court.
We will have to agree to disagree about whether being a bullshitter qualifies your a Nobel Prize.
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
It's true that the task of proving that global warming exists is on my shoulders, and that it is logically impossible to prove its nonexistence. But one has to wonder what level of proof scientists need to array to convince someone who would flat out deny its possibility and dismiss all scientific claims as "bullshit". Such a person is beyond persuasion.
Of course there are immediate problems. When people might die tomorrow, whether it be innocents in Iraq or Africa, or elderly relatives or anyone, for that matter, it becomes a more immediate problem. But I believe that the impact of global warming on humanity will be much greater.
We can disagree about whether or not Al Gore deserves the Nobel, but we can do it without you having to attack the Nobel Peace Prize because you disagree with the committee's decision.
On the other hand, now that a Court has been ruled by the anti-Global Warming population to be the absolute authority on Science, irony has gone into cardiac arrest.
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Gore '08
It's true that the task of proving that global warming exists is on my shoulders, and that it is logically impossible to prove its nonexistence. But one has to wonder what level of proof scientists need to array to convince someone who would flat out deny its possibility and dismiss all scientific claims as "bullshit". Such a person is beyond persuasion.
Of course there are immediate problems. When people might die tomorrow, whether it be innocents in Iraq or Africa, or elderly relatives or anyone, for that matter, it becomes a more immediate problem. But I believe that the impact of global warming on humanity will be much greater.
We can disagree about whether or not Al Gore deserves the Nobel, but we can do it without you having to attack the Nobel Peace Prize because you disagree with the committee's decision.
On the other hand, now that a Court has been ruled by the anti-Global Warming population to be the absolute authority on Science, irony has gone into cardiac arrest.
See again your completely missing the point.The court has not made itself an authority on anything except the simple notion that the facts as we understand them do not support most of the assertions made in the film. Separating facts from assertions is what courts do. They are perhaps the most qualified authorities in the land to do so. The topic is virtually irrelevant.
Did you even read the details of the judegement ?
Id hate to think you would make such vehement posts without first informing yourself.
So if the facts do not support the assertions.... in laymans terms.... thats called bullshit.
So you make a movie and scare tha pants of people...... and it gets revealed as being bullshit....
Thats grounds for a Nobel prize.....
ROFL!!
Im done.....
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
I'm familiar with the ruling. The judge's basic point was that nine scenarios in the film were hyperbole. The judge also said that the four central hypothesis behind the film were correct and well supported. How you've misconstrued this ruling to say that the entire film is wrong is beyond reality.
Have a good night.
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Gore '08
If you don't get why I'm posting these lyrics then I don't like you anyway....
Who are you to wave your finger?
You must have been outta your head
Eye hole deep in muddy waters
You practically raised the dead
Rob the grave to snow the cradle
Then burn the evidence down
Soapbox house of cards and glass so
Don't go tossin' your stones around
You must have been high
Foot in mouth and head up ass
So whatcha talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out. boy,
You must have been so high
Steal, borrow, refer, save your shady inference
Kangaroo done hung the jury with the innocent
Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo
(Musta) got lemon juice up in your eye
When you pissed all over my black kettle.
You must have been high!
Who are you to wave your finger?
So full of it
Eye balls deep in muddy waters
F**kin' hypocrite
[Pot lyrics on http://www.metrolyrics.com]
Liar, lawyer, mirror, show me. What's the difference?
Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent.
Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo
(Musta) got lemon juice up in your eye
When you pissed all over my black kettle.
You must've been...
So who are you to wave your finger?
Who are you to wave your fatty fingers at me?
You must have been out your mind
Weepin' shades of indigo
Shed without a reason
Weepin' shades of indigo
Liar, lawyer - mirror, for you what's the difference?
Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government.
Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo
(Musta) got lemon juice up in your eye
Now when you pissed all over my black kettle.
You must've been high!
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Ganja? P-lease!
You must have been out your mind
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Environmental issues are important, I doubt anyone who lives in large a motorized city can refute that.
I am not sure it is the most important issue we have, but it is certainly up there at the top.
It is hard to prophecy about the future but this guy gives an compelling argument.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ
In essence, global warming migth ( human effected that is, global warming is a reality, it all goes in cycles, qeustion is if it is our faulth ) not be true but what are the consequences of any decision we make?
We can do all we can to stop it and if we are wrong we have put a LOT of resources into the issue, some claim this will hurt the global economy, some claim it will help it.
I am fairly sure that any efforts going into alternatives energy sources is a good thing regardless of environmental issues or not, this debate will fuel that research.
And there is another issure here, what rigth do our generation have to within a hundred years use up 500 million years of accumulated solar energy? Wich is essentially what fossil fuel is.
We can do nothing and it turns out this is the wrong thing to do, wich essentially means the end of the world as we know it, not my choice to be honest.
We can do what we can but it will not help, again we have the end of the world scenario but at least we tried, and perhaps we made enough difference t lessen the effects.
We can do all we can and be successful and in my book that is time and effort well invested.
What amazes me is the americans reluctance to this, because say what you will about the US but they have the resources to lead this research, the results of wich could possibly be the most profitable market in the history of bussiness.
At the end of the day I do not think we should panic but I think we should have a healthy respect for the possibility that we are destroying ourself.
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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Well the question I want to know the answer of is: WTH does global warming have to do with peace? If he won a nobel award it should have been for science.
The nobel prizes are split into two parts.
First you have the "science" prizes, these are awarded by the swedish nobel commite, wich is essentially the swedish academy, kind of like the brittish royal academy, it consists mainly of scholars from different fields.
Then you have the peace prize, wich is given out by the norwegian nobel committe.
The peace prize is not just about just peace, but about ahcievements to better the world we live in.
This seem to apply.
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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To me the biggest issue concerning the global warming debate is how the population of the World will be impacted if one side or the other is proven wrong. I think that either way there is going to a price paid. Someone who is in the anti-global-warming camp said that if he is proven wrong, then he would be willing to apologize for his mistake. If the air is polluted, the coastlines are receding due to melting polar caps and the water is either gone or undrinkable, it's that just a little too late for apologies?? And dosen't it make the process of cleaning up (if it's even possible) that much harder meaning that much more money will be allocated for the cleanup? On the other side if the pro-global warming people are wrong, then it could have a very serious impact on the world's economy and that could have a very detrimental effect on people all over the world. However, recovering from a major economic depression would be child's-play compared with either cleaning up a ruined eco-system, (if it is even possible to do so), or finding another planet that is suitable for human colonization (if we even have that option). Granted, the whole global warming thing may be just hype and scare tactics but if out of that hype comes a way for the world to produce its energy without creating pollution, then something good will have come from it. I would rather we did something now with the chance that we really didn't have to do anything than wait and see and run an even bigger risk of reaching a point of no return.
Razor, the CO2 theory might be bullshit, but what is important is that people understand that we cannot do as we please.
The earth is a beautiful place but can be easily ruined by human beings actions, if we are not careful.
Whether is the CO2 emission or all the chemical we use to wash our hairs doesn't matter.
What is important is to raise awareness on the subject, we need to be responsible for our actions and try our better to go as green as we can.
Gore raised awareness on the issue, whether he deserve a Nobel I am not sure, he only spent a couple of years of his life doing so, as opposed of almost 40 spent mixing with the establishment in order to promote his political career.
I probably would have waited, you give nobel to people who dedicate their whole life to a cause, Gore only dedicated a tiny bit of its life for that.
What really cracks me up is Al Gore left his large fully climate controlled home in his large gas guzzling car to get on a emissions spewing plane just to get into a even larger more gas guzzling car to go to a huge climate controlled hall to except an award for how environmentally friendly he is. Limousine Liberals crack me up every time with there blatant hypocrisy.
Edit: Ed Begley Jr. would have rode his bike there to accept it for him if he had of asked I'm sure.
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Either that or will look back and wonder why so many people were douches and screwed over the planet.
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
Remember it isn't only Al Gore who got it. He shares it with the UN Climate Panel.
The Nobel Peace Price was disgraced when they gave it to Yasser Arafat.
AGAIN!? oh fuck. I was hoping those climate debates were over, I was getting tired at them. Especially since you (Razorback) seem to have 450690744828 various link with various people whom say that Global Warming is just fake and that we can keep on living like we do because we live in perfect harmony with the nature.
Watched through your (still Razorback I'm addressing) but didn't really see any good arguments. Seems like you're just harassing people. If you're going to answer to this post please do like a gentleman and try to debate for your opinion.
I'll have to say it was kind of pathetic when I saw that Al Gore won the Nobel prize. He would probably deserve some other prize that's closer to the environment. But I do believe he deserves a prize at least.