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  • ThorongilThorongil Member Posts: 38


    Originally posted by tomken48
    Personal storage is not a must. There are loads of spots in each toon. The game is just supposed to be fun, If you want a job, get one. I'm tired of people, who don't know what they are talking about, bashing a great game.

    I entered a longer reply to this nonsense but the message board ate it. Suffice to say that I've played, without breaks, since beta. I've watched the Icefire debacle, the June 2003 mob rebalancing disaster, the failure of the hero system to bring back old players, and the current lackluster interest in the brand new crafting system.

    The game has improved greatly but it still has miles to go before it compares to DAOC, EQ, FFXI, or SWG. If you decide to play be sure to bring plenty of patience. Even basic geometry issues reported in Omishan in beta are still present to this very day.

    Hopefully Turbine will pay more attention to AC2 once they finish writing their own authentication and billing systems and take that function over from Microsoft. Until then, content in each monthly patch remains light and uninspiring and the player base as a whole knows it.


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  • Originally posted by tomken48
    Personal storage is not a must.  There are loads of spots in each toon.  The game is just supposed to be fun,  If you want a job, get one.  I'm tired of people, who don't know what they are talking about, bashing a great game.




      Dude, Personal Storage IS a MUST if you want to compeat vs the TONS of other MMORPGs out there that DO SO have Personal Storage! Having Personal Storage has very, very, long ago been proven as one of the things a successful MMORPG must have! EverQuest finally learned this the hard way, and used the lesson they learned in EQ2. Then again, if one does not want to compeat vs the competition, and wants to give the competition even more of an advantage, then personal storage is "not a must".

      Your post reminds me of the replies in the AC2 beta forums when I brought up putting in mounts into AC2. The AC2 game DEVs, as well as TONS of players like you responded with "Mounts are not a must." Well if you want to compeat vs the competition, you put in everything that has been proven to work, and in addition build on it aka put in new, original, ideas and improvements on old ideas....

     ... which AC2 was on track to doing. But alas, even now AC2 has STILL not put in their most original idea which would have made AC2 different (and in 1 major way) better than every single MMORPG out, and about to be released. image


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  • SlangerSlanger Member UncommonPosts: 280
    I wouldn't say Personal Storage is a must in every game, but I do see your point. It would be nice if I could go to a bank of some sort and store some weapons or armor that I looted that I wont be able to use for a few more levels. Sometimes storage can back fire though. Like in Star Wars Galaxies you get a Safety Deposit Box at a bank, but people would simply buy 2-4 houses and use that as storage. At first it was a little overboard though one house could hold thousands of items by simply using packs or containers.image All games should have at least some kind of storage though, at least the ones that give out decent loot.image

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  • Originally posted by Thorongil



    I entered a longer reply to this nonsense but the message board ate it. .




     It happens a lot at this here site MMORPG.com they have not done anything to fix it. In the future, if you write a reply and it takes more than 30 seconds for you to type it and submit it.....

     First highlight the entire text you wrote and replied to, then press CTRL+C, click on the submit button. If you do not see your new post, and the forum eats it, log in again. Go back to the same thread, click on reply, then press CTRL+V, and paste your saved post into the reply box, then click submit.

     You can also left mouse click to call up the mini-mouse menu and pick "copy" to copy all your highlighted text before hitting submit. Then after you hit submit, if you do not see your new post, log in again, go back to the same thread, click on reply, then left mouse click, and pick "paste". then hit submit again.

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  • SkaelSkael Member Posts: 115

    Well if you want to compeat vs the competition, you put in everything that has been proven to work, and in addition build on it aka put in new, original, ideas and improvements on old ideas....

    This is the exact kind of thinking that has spawned so many Everquest clones.

    There is no need for personal storage in AC2. People make mule characters if they really need that much storage. While a bank or something would be more convenient, it's not that serious. A decent MMORPG is not made through "compeat"ing with the competition, it is made through innovation, which AC2 has. If everything that's been proven to work must be in all future MMORPGs, please tell me why Lineage II, City of Heroes, Shadowbane, and FFXI do not have manueverable personal boats like in UO? Why does Lineage II not have mounts?  Hell, I don't even think SWG has mounts either. L2 and SB do not have instanced dungeons either, nor does DAoC ( yet ). That comment you just made is BS. In my time playing AC2 the need never arose for any more storage space than my own inventory. If there is no need for something, there is no need to include it. Surely Turbine would much rather work on the monthly content, which is what keeps many players in AC2, or work on the new KvK battlegrounds, than add useless features to the game.

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  • Originally posted by Skael


    Well if you want to compeat vs the competition, you put in everything that has been proven to work, and in addition build on it aka put in new, original, ideas and improvements on old ideas....
    This is the exact kind of thinking that has spawned so many Everquest clones.
    There is no need for personal storage in AC2. People make mule characters if they really need that much storage. While a bank or something would be more convenient, it's not that serious. 
    A decent MMORPG is not made through "compeat"ing with the competition, it is made through innovation, which AC2 has. If everything that's been proven to work must be in all future MMORPGs, please tell me why Lineage II, City of Heroes, Shadowbane, and FFXI do not have manueverable personal boats like in UO?
    Why does Lineage II not have mounts?  Hell, I don't even think SWG has mounts either. L2 and SB do not have instanced dungeons either, nor does DAoC ( yet ). That comment you just made is BS. In my time playing AC2 the need never arose for any more storage space than my own inventory.
    If there is no need for something, there is no need to include it. Surely Turbine would much rather work on the monthly content, which is what keeps many players in AC2, or work on the new KvK battlegrounds, than add useless features to the game.


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     Are you replying to Slanger? Or to me. Because we BOTH made the same point you are claiming is "BS". Mule characters take up unnecessary space. Both in the database, and in player choices. As again, EQ has learned the very hard way and is not repeating in EQ2.

     Notice the part of the quote you quoted that says "and in addition build on it.... put in new ideas, improvements, on the old ones." A game that does that will not be an "EQ clone". Enter DAoC, EQ2, and others that ARE successful and will be successful because that is the plan their game DEVs are doing. "What has been proven to work? OK put that in. Now how can we make it even better aka build on it even more? ADD that and put it in!".

     A "decent" MMORPG is a buisness. Especially when millions of $$$$ are at stake. Thus whatever the competition does, indeed has a bearing on if other MMORPGs will do well. It does not matter how innovative, revolutionary, groundbreaking a multi-million $$$ game is..... if it cannot stay in buisness. In AC2's case they got lucky MicroCrap...errr... MicroSoft on purpose asorbed the 20 million to 25 million inventment LOSS in AC2. Turbine thus gets a "FREE" MMORPG. AC2 gets to dely the inevitable visit from Mr. Reality..... for now.

     Lin2, and CoH, are not yet at their 1 year annaversary. See how well or bad they are doing then. AC2 has been out for 1 1/2+ years and is doing horribly worse than Lin2, CoH, HZ, (games right out of beta!) as well as the ancient UO LOLOL! BTW, CoH cannot be compared to AC2 because it is not directly compeating vs AC2, or any other D&D Themed/Tolkien Themed/Fantasy Themed MMORPG. It is an ultra-unique-hybrid. It is actually a very revolutionary, innovative, groundbreaking MMORPG in that it is not another entry into the Medieval-Themed/Fantasy-Themed/D&D Themed/Tolkien-Themed market that is ultra-over saturated. Kudos to CoH!

     AC2 is a failing, dying MMORPG. It is why they FINALLY added mounts months months ago, after saying the exact same thing in Beta you are saying right now - "We do not need it. It is not necessary!". But the specific subject being discussed right now is S-T-O-R-A-G-E. Something as minor as storage, other than on your character, would help far more than hurt AC2. Turbine is not "keeping many players in AC2" according to what other AC2 fans who are currently playing AC2 have posted. A server with less than 100 players during peak time is not keeping most players in AC2. A server with less than 1,000 players at peak time is not keeping most players in AC2.

     And the fact your posting false, ultra outdated info about SWG, shows you should first check up on your info before posting it. Either actually make sure you are currently playing the MMORPG you are commenting on, or ask someone who IS currently playing it to verify/answer your questions. SWG has had mounts for roughly a 1/2 year LOL! image But again, the specific subject being discussed is s-t-o-r-a-g-e. Stay on topic like me and Slanger are doing. image


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  • SkaelSkael Member Posts: 115

    Read my post for once xplororororor and you will see how it relates. I see no need to take your post apart because I was rational in everything that I said.

    The flaming is getting really old now. You obviously have a grudge against this game, and now you have a grudge against me. Go and do something worthwhile with your time, you have an amazing amount of it devoted to bashing Asheron's Call in a very lame way. And grab some maturity while you're at it, you're telling me to stay on the storage topic for giving examples of other popular ideas that have not been put in some MMORPGs, just like how storage is not in AC2, yet you go on about the game dying and the low population as usual. That is not related to storage at all.

    I notice you didn't bother replying in the other thread, have you run out of "facts"? Oh wait, all the facts you ever had were the population numbers in the first place. Your posts are so typical that if I knew any Javascript I could make an xplororororor post generator for you. You could bash AC2 without all the effort and hard work.

    I'd really like to get back to discussing AC2.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, your post and Slanger's post were not related at all. If that's your idea of the same point, you need to go and learn how to read. I can understand how you didn't like AC2, it does require some degree of literacy to play. image


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  • tomken48tomken48 Member Posts: 12
    Since your post are rubbish, it's no wonder it got trashed.image

  • JennysMindJennysMind Member UncommonPosts: 869

    I personally don't understand why Xplororor keeps trying to stop people from playing the game. It appears he gets enjoyment out of this. If I didn't like a game, the most I would do is start a review thread and move on, not caring to visit the board anymore.

    I've been playing since last October and have thoroughly enjoyed the game. I'm a member of an allegiance that has mature players that love helping each other and questing together. I have played a couple of other MMORPG's and I really like this one much better. Crafting 2.0 has really revitalized the veterans that are now playing.

    I might leave this game in the future if I find one I like more. It may be Turbines new games or WoW. This game may have to be eventually shut down, however I'm going to enjoy it whle it is here.  I've found a lot of new friends playing AC2 and will keep in touch with many of them. 

    I keep hearing about low population totals, but in-game it isn't apparent. There always seems to be an adequate amount of people playing when I play and the lack of population never seems to be noticable. This probably has to do with the state of the art chat channels and the easy accessability of communicating.  I don't want to play in a game where I have to stand in line to run a quest. Just because 50,000 other people are playing doesn't necessarily make the game more fun.

    That's just my 2 cents

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  • Mr_MiracleMr_Miracle Member Posts: 5
    I have played several MMORPGS (AC1, AO, FFXI, Shadowbane, AC2, EQ, CoH) and AC2 is the best one out of them.  This game gets such a bad rap because of its release, but it is leaps and bounds better now.




  • Originally posted by tomken48
    Since your post are rubbish, it's no wonder it got trashed.image



     Actually, I deleted it LOL! At MMORPG.com you cannot 100% delete a post, just all of the text.image

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  • Originally posted by Alekhin

    I personally don't understand why Xplororor keeps trying to stop people from playing the game. It appears he gets enjoyment out of this. If I didn't like a game, the most I would do is start a review thread and move on, not caring to visit the board anymore.

      Show me where I have said people should not play AC2? The only thing I have said is people should know everything about AC2 so they can then make an informed decision about it. I have always said people should try the FREE AC2 trial.

     

    I might leave this game in the future if I find one I like more. It may be Turbines new games or WoW. This game may have to be eventually shut down, however I'm going to enjoy it whle it is here.  I've found a lot of new friends playing AC2 and will keep in touch with many of them. 

      There you go! YOu have shown you 100% see my point when you say "This game may HAVE to be eventually shut down". That is what I am getting at. I want every lurker, and gamer to be able to be like you - to be fully informed of AC2's status. You have made your informed decision, and I fully support it!

    I keep hearing about low population totals, but in-game it isn't apparent. There always seems to be an adequate amount of people playing when I play and the lack of population never seems to be noticable. This probably has to do with the state of the art chat channels and the easy accessability of communicating.  I don't want to play in a game where I have to stand in line to run a quest. Just because 50,000 other people are playing doesn't necessarily make the game more fun.

       As even you said.... about AC2 eventually having to get shut down.... better to play a game with 50,000 other people and the game does not get shut down. Than to play a game with 800 to 50 people and .... well... you know the rest. image But then again, you KNOW what you are getting into, have gotten into and have made an informed decision to subscribe and keep playing "until the game gets shut down."

    That's just my 2 cents

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  • forestdutchforestdutch Member Posts: 175

    Play AC2 on darktide fully pvp server its great fun and one of best mmorpg,s

     

  • XSlackJaWXXSlackJaWX Member Posts: 6



    Originally posted by xplororor

    LOL! Dude, it is tooooo EASY to make Multi-Accounts on here at MMORPG.com!

     1 person can make 20+ multi-accounts. Imagine what 10 people can do? Especially if they all wanted to inflate how "good" AC2 is? There are roughly 6,000 players playing AC2 for the past 3 months. It doesn't take much for some of them to get together and raid MMORPG.com with multi-accounts just to inflate the voting.

     It would be even MORE intresting if all those who voted and "voted" for AC2 would POST! Heheh! Post the reasons why they like AC2! You, me, everyone here would likely see their post count is 10 or less LOL!


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    Aye but you can't review a game until you have a certain rank.... so your theory is flawed...

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  • HadwinHadwin Member Posts: 3

    I might as well put in my opinion about the game.

    I have played it for 2 weeks now (15 days free trial), its a great game, good quests, good combat and character development is also good IMO.

    Graphic, well here I have a bit of a problem I have a geoforce FX 5200 Ultra even tho the game is developed for Nvidia cards they don’t support FX cards and in my case my card just don’t work at all, well it works but dungeons and night time I have to brighten up the screen so much the graphic is horrible, I think this is under all critic that they don’t support a card that is manufactured by the company that the game is developed for.

    You can outrun every mob (that I have confronted) which is really bad, some mobs yes might turn back cause maybe they have some fear for you BUT mobs that is in a higher level then you shouldn’t fear you or ignore you as they do in this game its just stupid.

    You can take a high level quest get a mount (some kind of a lizard you ride in a very fast pace) just run to the quest mob you need to kill or talk too right trough all the mobs that are in the way, its no challenge at all.

    Small dungeons not very entertaining, I say this from playing EQ in several years and the thing I loved about EQ was the dungeon.

    If you are in bad luck or stumble over mob that kills you, no worries the death in this game is nothing you just pop up at the last saved lifestone and have some minor vitae (I think its called :P it means that you are not in that good shape, you wont deal as much damage as before gets worse the more Vit. you loose) you get it back while getting new xp, the amount for every vitae point is higher the higher level you are but the real high levels get vitae heals from the ones that are able (don’t know what class that do that ).

    I guess this game is for people that want to get xp fast and get loot and uber stuff without having to risk anything you develop all the time.

    Me on the other hand like it when you have to risk something and the adrenaline start to pump when you are in a risky situation, that what’s it all about for me :)

    The travelling is easy you can get all over the world with ease if you have the right level its teleports all over the place, this I don’t like either if it is a big country well it takes time to travel from one spot to another, that will make me want to go to other places and really have a adventure when travelling to it (its not the goal its the travel to it that is the fun part).

    Short:
    Good game fun for a short while
    Nothing for explorer tho its to easy
    Geoforce FX card user don’t expect great graphic
    Anyone that wants adventure and suspension don’t think they will get it I didn’t :(

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  • *SNIFF*

    AC2 is no longer on MMORPG.com top game list, after being at the #2 spot for....... a few hours...er... days. I guess it was fantastic, then suddently become non-fantastic? (Or maybe the sado-machoist fanboys could not make enough multi-accounts here at MMORPG.com to keep it on the top games list?)

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  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    Who.....cares......????

    I got into the game cause of the 15day free trial and website info, not by game rank.

    But hey if that makes you feel better, whatever floats your boat.

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  • DhaemanDhaeman Member Posts: 531



    Originally posted by Storm.
    Ac2 has a better quest system than WoW does.  Lots of things in WoW have been modified from Ac2 actually.  WoW has a better presentation but you feel no where near as important in it.



    I noticed this. I actually just posted something in the WoW forum about how similar these games are.

  • Storm.Storm. Member UncommonPosts: 256
    yup they are very similar and I thought it was funny.  At first it was just the concepts of wow that were so similar to ac2 but then I actually played it and saw how close it actually is lol.

  • RorinoxRorinox Member Posts: 35



    Originally posted by xplororor

    *SNIFF*
    AC2 is no longer on MMORPG.com top game list, after being at the #2 spot for....... a few hours...er... days. I guess it was fantastic, then suddently become non-fantastic? (Or maybe the sado-machoist fanboys could not make enough multi-accounts here at MMORPG.com to keep it on the top games list?)

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    Why even the bother x??? A question for you is, do you still play AC2? If not, how long has it been since you played?? By looking at the screenshots on your page it has been a while..... & If you havn't played for THAT long, its kind of interesting how you can be so anti-ac2 and know just how apparently bad the game is....
    If you do play however, and you do have an understanding of the changes that have been made in the last year. Then I apologize....

  • Storm.Storm. Member UncommonPosts: 256

    It has gone down because others have worked their rankings up to the same score with more votes.  When FFXI gets onto the top 5 mmorpgs you know something is wrong.




  • Originally posted by Rorinox


    Originally posted by xplororor

    *SNIFF*

    AC2 is no longer on MMORPG.com top game list, after being at the #2 spot for....... a few hours...er... days. I guess it was fantastic, then suddently become non-fantastic? (Or maybe the sado-machoist fanboys could not make enough multi-accounts here at MMORPG.com to keep it on the top games list?)


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    Why even the bother x???

      Simple. This here specific thread was made "bragging" about how AC2 is ranked in the #2 spot on MMPRPG.coms' top game list. My current, most recent commment was aimed at the specific subject this here thread is about. The original first comment in this thread on the first page was about how AC2 is ranked #2. I commented just now that since AC2 is not even on MMORPG.com's list of games, then what does that now say about AC2?

    A question for you is, do you still play AC2? If not, how long has it been since you played?? By looking at the screenshots on your page it has been a while..... & If you havn't played for THAT long, its kind of interesting how you can be so anti-ac2 and know just how apparently bad the game is....

      I'm not anti-AC2. Never ever have been. Posting the truth about a game is not being anti-that game. It is simply posting the truth. I played AC2 through all of Beta. Then during its first 6 months of release. I got tired of the AC2 game DEVs blatantly lying to everyone. They still have not put in the 1 main game feature AC2 was suppose to have. The 1 game feature AC2 had been advertised revolving around.

     I have not updated my AC2 screenshots because my folders can only store a finite amount of data. If you look at all the folders, you will see I have info about many other games too.

     I get all my info about AC2 from my experience, and the experiences of current players who post about their current experiences.

    If you do play however, and you do have an understanding of the changes that have been made in the last year. Then I apologize....




     

     You asked a legitimate question, without any name calling. No need to appologize. If AC2 ever gets around to putting in their 1 main game feature, then I would champion AC2 and do as much in my power to try to turn AC2 around. It would make AC2 different from every single old, and new, MMORPG.

     Right now, AC2 offers nothing out of the ordinary that other old and new MMORPGs do not already have, including AC.

  • RorinoxRorinox Member Posts: 35

    Thanks for the response X, it just seemed that you were trying to rub salt on a wound image..

    It is however still tied with AC1 and others at a rating of 8.1... so its actually tied for 5th image

    Anyways.. If you get all of your info about AC2 from peeps that still play & so forth, you are only pulling the bad things people are saying. I know atleast 15 people who have came back to the game in the last month or so from other games and are absolutely loving it. So some things must be better image

    Anyways.... off to my 10th day of my 18 day streak at work image

     

    -Rori

  • TyveilTyveil Member Posts: 201



    Originally posted by Rorinox

    I know atleast 15 people who have came back to the game in the last month or so from other games and are absolutely loving it. So some things must be better image



    I'm running into a ton of these people in the game as well as lots of true newbies who are really enjoying the game.  It is a great time to be back in AC2! image

  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    I second that! Having fun in AC2! image The good stuff far out weighs the bad stuff in this game.

     

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