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Guild Wars considering getting Nightfall...etc etc but confused?

LonewolfLonewolf Member UncommonPosts: 252
in Guild Wars

Could someone explain the idea behind Guild wars I mean I understand that you PvE to unlock skills for PvP but how far does the PvE go and the PvP what do you gain from PvPing? More items? Status?

What is the endgame? PvE and PvP? Or just PvP? What cool things can you get etc?

Thanks in advance

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  • AetaryaAetarya Member Posts: 24

    Actually, in PvE for Nightfall and Eye of the North, you not only unlock skills for PvP, but also for your heroes as well. In addition, PvP is not totally reliant on PvE for skills, items, heroes, etc, since PvP allows point rewards to gain the ability to unlock what you select. PvE does offer a few more options than the PvP unlock system, such as the ability to gain nicer looking skins (depending on your tastes).

    Endgame is what you choose. It can either be to get into PvP and/or to get into PvE.


    Gains from PvP:

    Rank (or status... sorta), a few rewards that PvE’rs can’t get (ex: ghostly hero miniature, they would have to trade with a PvP’r to gain it).

    No PvE event has offered money or other real life rewards as PvP contests have (that I can recall). So if you like prizes for playing a game, being l33t in PvP for the whole world (where GW is offered) is what you would need to do.

    To do pretty “advance” PvP though, you would need to join a guild, which would also allow you to help your guild gain rank through PvPing, in addition to getting help from the members on PvP stuff.

    There’s a whole lot more I’ve missed about the PvP side, but I’m a PvE’r that has done minimal PvP so I probably shouldn’t say too much .

    Gains from PvE:

    After you beat the game, it is grind time.

    For Nightfall, you can gain the last of the heroes within Nighfall. You can grind to get your heroes new armor, runes and inscriptions for their armor, and better stat weapons that match the types of builds you create your heroes to be. There are a lot of heroes, (you can use a max of 3 at a time of your own heroes), and so there will be a lot of gold that goes into those heroes if you wish to improve them.

    You can attempt the elite missions, although the place is quite empty the last time I’ve read, since most people have gone to Eye of the North as it’s the new thing.

    You can attempt all the missions again in Hard Mode (which also contains different and often better rewards)

    You can grind for that super expensive but nice/cool looking armor (again depends on your tastes). And please note that these super expensive armors are not needed. You can get armor with the same max stats for far cheaper; they simply don’t look as nice. No stat differences of any kind, just the look.

    Weapons are kind of in the same category as armor. You can gain max weapons fairly easily through collectors, weapon smiths, or end game items. But if you want the really rare skins that look better, you need to farm. Green weapons will probably be something you’ll find yourself attempting to farm a bit for, unless you’re like me who leaves gaining them to luck most of the time.  One difference about weapons though, is that you can come across better stat combinations than some of the items provided by NPCs or you can farm for weapon parts to create a weapon you’d wish to have.

    Titles are another grind feature for Guildwars. In Nightfall you can grind to increase your PvE only skills along with giving a little extra aid in battling in certain areas. Titles are something you can display in towns (only one at a time) to show your accomplishments. They now also contribute to your hall of monuments in the Eye of the North expansion, which will be transferred in some way to Guildwars2, allowing you to gain some form of bonus that hasn’t been mentioned yet. Some of the titles include achievements for drinking booze for so long, eating too much sweets, capturing all of the elite skills in a chapter (and another title for capturing all elites for all chapters), completing all of the missions with masters for a chapter, mapping out areas, and many more.

    If you get Eye of the North, you can grind to gain special looking armor pieces, like glasses, or glowing hands.

    Now I hope all of this grind/farm information doesn't worry you too much about what kind of game GuildWars is. I've been around for over 2 years, playing off and on. And again, most grind is optional. I feel that for the most part, I've gotten my money's worth. Guildwars does offer several hours of gameplay as long as you play the game and don't rush and does offer a few things to many things to do after finishing the game, depending on what type of player you are.

  • LonewolfLonewolf Member UncommonPosts: 252

    Sounds good I am a PvPer at heart and I have managed to get into a guild.

     

    I have decided to play from prophecies to pick up the story, should kill some time for me for a while :D

     
  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964

    To Lonewolf,

    I am pretty new to GW scene myself and I find Prophecies to be an excellent and challenging. Great story as you progress, but leveling in the original campaign is very slow compared to its Factions Campaign. I broke down around level 15 and went and finished the rest of my leveling in Factions. I went from Level 15 to 20 in about 4 hours (I kid you not, in the Factions Campaign). Then I headed back to the original campaign and finished most the quests I skipped.

    I am not saying, go do this, cause I am still new to this game. I only got about 2 months of game time.

  • DraeghorDraeghor Member UncommonPosts: 50

    Its actually pretty straightforward to level to 20 in Factions and comes pretty quickly.  Once there you are probably jut onto the mainland, and have a ton of stuff to do.  I gave up on Factions shortly after the first few missions as I could not find a group and the NPC's are just braindead and make the missions even harder.  i might go back to Factions later.

    Prophecies was a much longer drawn out development of the character. getting to 20 was only part of it, as that allowed you to do the Ascension quests which were pretty good.  Once Ascended, there was even more to do as you built up your character.

    I recently picked up Nightfall, having played it in Beta, but did not pick it up due to other games coming out at the time.  i am now building up a character and the Heros.  It is more like Prophecies as far as character development, yet different as you are building many things such as rank and your Heros.

    I purchased but have not looked into Eye of the North, and assume that my lvl 20 characters can soemhow get involved in the new quest liens (though I don't know where -- but will find them when I get a chance)

    Overall, I think GW to be a good game, and you can get into it with any of the campaigns, and then play more with the expansion.  I believe that the concentration of Prophecies and Nightfall were on the PvE experience, and Factiosn was PvP, though you get a lot of PvP stuff in the other two.  In all, I think since there is no monthly fee, you could get one and try it, and if you don't like it, you could try one of the others, and really don't feel like you are out much money as the costs are compareable to the monthly fees you would pay for other games for the same amount of content.  That ios to say if it takes you 3 months to play the campaign, then the monthly fees you would have paid in another game would have paid for this. (Please no Flames on the math here -- its just an approximation)

  • 8hammer88hammer8 Member Posts: 1,812

    Originally posted by Draeghor


      In all, I think since there is no monthly fee, you could get one and try it, and if you don't like it, you could try one of the others, and really don't feel like you are out much money as the costs are compareable to the monthly fees you would pay for other games for the same amount of content.  That ios to say if it takes you 3 months to play the campaign, then the monthly fees you would have paid in another game would have paid for this. (Please no Flames on the math here -- its just an approximation)

    No flames, but a quick observation...you say after playing 3 months you feel you can have the feeling you got your money back (assuming you are meaning 3months x $15 = $45).  But you have to remember, was the other game with the monthly fee free as well?  So if Vanguard/Lotro/WoW cost $45 and the you play for three months you are out $75 considering the first month is almost always free.  With GW you are only out the original $45.

    Adding campaigns is where your example comes into play...but then again you never have to pay for them again.  It is all about enjoyment versus money spent.  Hopefully the games provide many hours of fun.

    "It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)

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