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So at what point will you quit raiding?

I'm just curious, with the Xpac coming how many people are going to quit raiding before release.  I'm all ready fatigued by running the same 5-7 instances on heroic everyweek for those last bits of gear, of running Kara nd Gruuls so we can be geared for the next stop...

 

I'm ready to qwuit, it's pointless now and we all know it, but how many will admit it?  And when?

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  • KenzeKenze Member UncommonPosts: 1,217

    Ive never started.  Hardcore raiding  and  Hardcore Raiding guilds all seem to go at WoW like its a second job or something. I play for fun. I have no timetable or long term end game goals. I do what seems fun to me at the time.

    If raiding has become a chore/bore for you then stop.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069

    Originally posted by MrVicchio


    I'm just curious, with the Xpac coming how many people are going to quit raiding before release.  I'm all ready fatigued by running the same 5-7 instances on heroic everyweek for those last bits of gear, of running Kara nd Gruuls so we can be geared for the next stop...
     
    I'm ready to qwuit, it's pointless now and we all know it, but how many will admit it?  And when?
    It was pointless once TBC was announced and its contents fully understood. (and maybe even before then)  It's just taken you a bit longer to realize than the rest of us.  But welcome to the fold.....

     

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  • zspawnzspawn Member Posts: 410

    The game is like that.

    You spent countless hours for gear, you move to next instance and by the time you are in endgame (currently Black Temple) you realise you'll be soon changing your gear or at least get equal gear from lvl 71-72 quests which is really dissapointing.

     

    This is WoW works. Raidcentric and recycling the same mentality.

    I quit it one and a month ago however it strikes me odd how some people can take this "reset" twice and still play :)

  • I quit about 7 months ago when I realized that I wasn't going to get to finish Naxx prior to TBC and that they completely ruined the whole raid set up and can't think up new encounters.

    With the new expansion coming out it will be a new wave up people realizing the same thing that they simply reuse old encounters and don't have original ideas by crapping out a steaming pile of new expansion.

    I loved WoW prior to the expansion, but talk about an expansion that trashes a game which made me upset cuz it seems to happen a lot. Why can't games ever just add more innovative content and not screw with basic game content out the ass. So beyond annoying. The wave of alpha class death knights wandering in will be the end of some classes being required in raids which will fux more people. None the less I quit raiding and the game a month after TBC when clearing the first few bosses in kara and seeing nothing new or interesting.

  • MrVicchioMrVicchio Member Posts: 598

    I've got a 23 Druid and am leveling a pally to 23.   When 2.3 hits I'll decide which one to level.

     

    I know this, unless something big changes, I won't be playing the Xpac, I'll be killing stunties.

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  • MrVicchioMrVicchio Member Posts: 598

    From a technical stand point it makes some sense.  If you over load peoples computers with new models it means that older systems will lag more around lots of people.   Recoloring them is less a strain on systems then new models.

     

    But I understand your point.

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  • zspawnzspawn Member Posts: 410

    You're probably right but I somehow feel its more laziness than technical problems :P

  • MobfigureMobfigure Member Posts: 44

    I quit raiding when BC came out. Anyone who still played and had alot of raid experience before BC , I usually call them pathetic. I was shocked 1 green level 58 item from outlands beat the stats on 1 piece of gear i spent countless hours raiding for, not to mention having whole t2/ and parts of t3. I thought it was the most ridiculous thing ever. Anyway i quit WoW period cause of that.

  • zspawnzspawn Member Posts: 410

    You and many more, however even a 15% of all subs lost even would mean nothing to Blizz.

    They can make much money as it is and spend even fewer since people play WoW anyway :P

  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094

    Originally posted by zspawn


    You know what's real funny ?
    In the trailer for Wrath of Lich King and the advertisement of the "new" Death Knight class the actual DK showed wears a recolored Tier4 Demon Stalker shoulder set...
     
    I dunno if it's funny or ironic...or down right sad :
    That DK is a new characrter model with unique armour... the trailer was just a concept.

     

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  • SteamRangerSteamRanger Member UncommonPosts: 920

    I hate crowds. Never raided, never will. This is what happens when a company replaces much of its creative staff with Everquest addicts. These people have a deficit when it comes to creativity. All they know how to do is create more Raid content that most of their player base (if the stats are correct) will never experience. Honestly, what good is an artistically-crafted dungeon if all anyone is going to do is run through it as part of a swarm of devouring locusts?

    I was in WoW from Day 1, but we parted company when I the realization hit me that I was paying Blizzard to develop new content that I would never see. WoW = Much Potential Wasted.

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  • zspawnzspawn Member Posts: 410

    Actually they stated that any race can be DK so it seems we'll see maybe new armor but same models wearing it (i.e. taurens, gnomes, orcs etc.)

  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094

     

    Originally posted by zspawn


    Actually they stated that any race can be DK so it seems we'll see maybe new armor but same models wearing it (i.e. taurens, gnomes, orcs etc.)

    No, you miss-understand the DK system.

     

    Your charcater does not become a DK.. you unlock a DK (probably in the new CoT instance where you fight alongside Arthus to sack the city of starthholm) , you still have your Mage or whatever but you can now also play a DK, so keep your Mage as your Main and maybe your DK as an alt.

    There will be no gnome or Cow DK.. DK are a new character model.

    Your charcater does not turn into a DK, so yes any race can unlock a DK.

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  • zspawnzspawn Member Posts: 410

    Yes I know it's a separate character however I remember reading that it has some connection with your main.

    Hmm, your post made me curious, gonna do some research then..

    Not that it matters since I'm not playing the game anyway but I'm still curious :D

  • silverqsilverq Member Posts: 52

    I quit when it stopped being fun.

  • zethcarnzethcarn Member UncommonPosts: 1,558

    I'll quit when it's no longer fun.   Fun is primary,  Gear is secondary. 

  • warrorwarror Member Posts: 270

    I didn't quit because of gear. I was totally cool wearing all greens. The reason I quit was because they didn't add any new lvl 20 - 60 content. Outland content was awesome but they really should add a few lands for the lvl 20 to 60 crowd. The death knight looks cool but I don't think I can go through the same boring lvling again. So I quit and will not be buying the expansion either.

  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138

    Originally posted by MrVicchio


    I'm just curious, with the Xpac coming how many people are going to quit raiding before release.  I'm all ready fatigued by running the same 5-7 instances on heroic everyweek for those last bits of gear, of running Kara nd Gruuls so we can be geared for the next stop...
     
    I'm ready to qwuit, it's pointless now and we all know it, but how many will admit it?  And when?
    Well I guess that depends on why you are raiding in the first place.  If you only raid to get the latest gear and only so you can prance around it in IF to impress others, then I guess yeah, it's time to quit now.

    However if you raid because you just want to progress thru the content and don't really care about the gear or if you care about getting the gear, but just so you can move on to the next raid instance and it's not some kind of e-peen for you, then you can keep on raiding right up to the day the xpac comes out.

    It's kinda like saying there's no point in getting a yellow belt in Karate because there's an orange belt.  If getting a yellow belt is a goal of yours, there's a feeling of accomplishment when you get the belt regardless of whether a better belt is available.  Once you attain that goal you start working towards getting a orange belt, your next goal.  If you have a black belt and then someone comes along and says there's a better belt and it's polka dot, are you going to say that getting a black belt was pointless?  Why?  Just because you are no longer wearing THE highest belt you can get (assuming that black belt is the highest, I'm not really all that up on the belts, so please no flaming if it's not).  At the time you got it it WAS the highest.  That doesn't diminish that accomplishment unless of course it's not the belt that you craved at all, but rather you just wanted to stroke your ego by getting the highest belt and feel let down that it's no longer the highest.

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  • bonobotheorybonobotheory Member UncommonPosts: 1,007

    To stop raiding, I'll have to start raiding, and I don't see that happening. Raiding strikes me as a huge, boring chore with very little reward. I got my Hunter up to 70, and parked him.  My Warrior is at 66, and if I get him to 70 before losing all interest in the game, he'll be parked as well. Then I'll either level up a third character or cancel my account, probably the latter.

    The game is mind-numbingly repetitive at the level cap. You run the same few dungeons again and again, do the same daily quests over and over, slowly crawling your way toward some little reward that only marginally boosts your character's ability.

  • Originally posted by zspawn


    You and many more, however even a 15% of all subs lost even would mean nothing to Blizz.
    They can make much money as it is and spend even fewer since people play WoW anyway :P

    If they lost 15% of their US/UKeuropean customers it would hurt them as they are the primary payers for the game which they would see a decent loss of income. Though 15% of the 6 or so million asian accounts might hurt just due to numbers though not pay due to contract with The9. None the less  it amazes  me people just allow Blizzard to get away with some of the stuff they do. People complain about SOE, but man Blizzard is becoming just as bad.

  • ArcherforceArcherforce Member Posts: 21

    But hey guys don't forget how much cash they'll make when World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King comes out, they are going to add new race, quests, maps ect..

    They probably won't stop as they making good cash with that, lol (Pay to play).

     

     

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  • FennrisFennris Member UncommonPosts: 277

    Yeah... they may have lost some 'elite raiders' (a small percentage of their player base anyways) with TBC that had already put thousands of hours into the game.  But they gained a lot more subscriptions (burned out raiders of the future) and got an extra $50 from millions of their accounts.

    I don't personally like the idea of raiding.  Where's the glory in being one of 25 or 40 other guys that managed to kill a boss (now you know what it feels like to be an orc facing Aragorn in 'The Lord of the Rings' movies, great...)?  Where's the fun in dealing with 25 or 40 other people where any of them can annoy you, quit, go afk , get you killed and/or cost you lots of time?  Being forced into 5-man instances is bad enough for me.  Massively multi-player shouldn't mean "forced to team".  Most players I've run into would happily solo for most of their xp/loot.  The "massively multiplayer" part should come in with trade, professions, hanging out, pvp, chat channels, competition and guilds/politics/wars as far as I'm concerned.

  • InrageInrage Member Posts: 10

    I am quickly getting to that point with TBC.  I am down to two nights a week raiding.  Plus, I am getting very bored with WOW in general.  I have been playing WOW for two years and I am not very fond of doing the same thing twice already a third time when WoTLK comes out.  Let's not kid ourselves, WoTLK will be all the same thing that has been done already.  It will have the same type of encounters, gear models, rep grinds, spells, raids that has been done all before.  It's ok though, I have more faith in upcoming MMO's that are coming out than WOW will ever have. 

  • KurirKurir Member UncommonPosts: 244

    I stopped Raiding when the guild I was in at the time collectively lost their minds and went Raid Happy. As has been said I play to enjoy myself not to gear up the people with no lives or identify too heavily with their character. I've played maybe two hours of WoW this week and I don't see my focus changing a whole helluva lot with the next Xpac looming either.

    I even see my time in WoW diminishing to the point that I only play when my kids want to. There are better games coming down the pipe and giving me another ten levels to grind out in another zone with the same objectives just doesn't appeal to me. Blizzard had better wake the #$%* up and stop resting on thier laurels.

  • eidolonnighteidolonnight Member Posts: 13

    Alright, I'm just getting back into the mmorpg scene, and I'm thinking about WoW.  I'm from the old Everquest days (played for the first 2-3 years it was out).  Back then raiding wasn't just about getting the goods.  Back then raiding was a social event.  My bard was a master brewer and I'd bring drinks for the whole guild.  We'd all get wasted, attack massive beasts, and usually get killed.  The point was to have fun.

    The prize is not the treasure, but the journey.

    Does every WoW payer have this "raid for goodies" mentality or do some actually play for the social enjoyment?

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