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Mmmm
People in glass houses shouldnt really throw stones...dont you think. Are there no people too talk too any more in the vanguard forums.....?? I see Lord of the rings online with still twenty five servers worldwide, NOT 10 servers that have recently been merged into 4. Perhaps you should be more concerned with the state of your own games you subscribe too as opposed to one you beta tested and moved on from after rightly deciding "in your opinion" it was not for you.
I play on the Laurelin server in europe and our population is fine thanks. My kinship has over 30 active members that play very regularly and are not in the least disappointed with their experience. We are still recruiting and see the starter areas with a healthy amount of activity.
You know what i find really NICE Matraque is the ability to play an MMO which at release includes the following features:
1. Production ready stability
2. A high standard of QA at launch
3. Multi threaded application code that utilises my new processors technologies and both its cores.....(I Know it gets better)
4. Anti Aliasing (incredible isnt it?)
5. Scalability across hardware and graphics settings (So my friends can play on all sorts of computers and not be conned into thinking unacceptable production code "just" requires moores law of hardware evolution)
6. Crossfire / SLI Support
7. Future scalability to Direct X 10 (Which i believe all being well will be with us in the next update to our game Book 11, You See because the developers of our chosen game subscription concentrated on polish and a production ready finish at release, their pre live targets became content updates and regular ones. Its a great business model.....)
8. Dynamic lighting and Environment drop shadows actually an engine that supports most of the Direct X 9 Specification....possibly why LOTRO is one of the better looking MMORPGS out there....
9. I wasnt crashing to desktop every hour up to 4 months after the launch of a product that was deemed in the eyes of its developer ready to demand money and subscription from the general public.........I could really sit down and play my chosen subscription in a great fantasy online world......
10. You know i love not having to flush my own graphics cache because its bloated with disgarded data no longer in use...i can get on with using emotes and other / commands rather that /flush......its fantastic!!
11. Would you like me to continue..............
Best Regards
Magpie
Yes please do.Cause what you listed does not make a game. It just helps it make it look better.
Ok Sure.
You see the points i have highlighted above in red are certainly things that i like to know have been covered in a good standalone title let alone a subscription title and im sure a good percentage of the games playing public is of similar opinion. And gladly i think with LOTRO the priorities were in the right place because these things in my opinion were covered. They dont just simply make the "title look better".
More Importantly my retort to yourself was really aimed at having more to say and post in your own chosen subscriptions titles forums than this one. Considering you dont even play Lord Of the Rings Online i would say the motives of your post and its intent here on our games boards are at best questionable.
Lest i remind you that at least one of the titles you subscribe to currently had an incredibly luke warm reception into the genre and began to become so unpopular that a new lead designer had to be integrated into its development team to inject life and bring the game to the mainstream (But not massively popular) state it is in today. The Other title played by yourself...mmm suffice to say based on budget possibly one of the worst launches in the history of the genre...neither of these issues "have" plagued LOTRO and neither does it look like they will.
I think your posts objectives are exceptionally questionable and i would like to add you dont see me now as an "ex vanguard / ex EQ2" player in the vanguard / EQ2 forums drawing attention of the forum users about "negative" or "decronstructive" posts based elsewhere..........because trust me my friend......if i was that desperate with something to do with my time......
I would have alot more ammunition than you......
Best Regards
Mag
That is what forums are forNow, let's have fun! If you want to come in the EQ2 forum and destroy it, please be my guest!
As for VG, sure, it was far from ready at release... Everyone knows that. Turbine made a choice. They decided to polish over content at release. Fine, it got mad reviews because of that. Now, it got re-reviewed by a lot and it's not that shiny. Why do players feel the need to quit around lvl 30?
Now, turbine will add so many features and content that their is a danger of breaking stuff. I won't be surprize that you will also have to pay for it soon, very soon...
Well youll have to forgive me that i do not concur with your usage and belief in the role of a forum. And you certainly wont find me hanging out in other games boards antagonising their fans. I just dont work that way, i have no hidden agenda to fill. And i will always objectively balance negatives with positives.
Your Correct Turbine did make a choice, and to be honest with you our game the game that i subscribe to along with people here on the LOTRO boards does have its problems, of course it does...the lack of high level content and Instance/Raid based content being one of them. Im educated enough and mature enough to fully admit the flaws.
However I would much rather have a very stable and polished engine and code base in a game at launch with content coming later as the main production drive and focus as opposed to a game that oozes content none of which is playable because the code and engine are so so crippled at launch. It should be noted that the second is a far worse hole from a developing standpoint to dig yourself out of than the first, trust me i know
. Thus why vanguard is "still" currently in the state it is in 10 months after launch.
Im also privledged to be part of the test servers population for LOTRO and i can tell you that although there are some items which are currently rough (Direct X 10 rendering implementation for example) i dont see us paying any time soon for Turbines very wise decision in terms of a polished product business model, sorry to burst your bubble.
Keep it coming Matraque, because i enjoy nothing better than kicking antagonisers like you in the teeth.
Kind Regards
Mag
Originally posted by Matrague
See, you do have a clue on what forums are for
But i don't feel the pain at all
I predict a paying expension in the next 6 months 
They will have too... Cause it seems that they are milking that 7 days trial again. It makes the front page look ugly 
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Nice try
A very clever attempt at twisting an opinion by cutting off the majoirty of my last post there for my closing comment which contained many valid points you have simply stopped being bothered to answer...it looks like your little personal crusade against the LOTRO forums might be tiring out your limited vocabulary.
So instead you just show the close of the post as a single one liner, so i have included the full context of my argument for you...
Regards
Magpie.
Excellentcheers!
eqnext.wikia.com
Mmmm
People in glass houses shouldnt really throw stones...dont you think. Are there no people too talk too any more in the vanguard forums.....?? I see Lord of the rings online with still twenty five servers worldwide, NOT 10 servers that have recently been merged into 4. Perhaps you should be more concerned with the state of your own games you subscribe too as opposed to one you beta tested and moved on from after rightly deciding "in your opinion" it was not for you.
I play on the Laurelin server in europe and our population is fine thanks. My kinship has over 30 active members that play very regularly and are not in the least disappointed with their experience. We are still recruiting and see the starter areas with a healthy amount of activity.
You know what i find really NICE Matraque is the ability to play an MMO which at release includes the following features:
1. Production ready stability
2. A high standard of QA at launch
3. Multi threaded application code that utilises my new processors technologies and both its cores.....(I Know it gets better)
4. Anti Aliasing (incredible isnt it?)
5. Scalability across hardware and graphics settings (So my friends can play on all sorts of computers and not be conned into thinking unacceptable production code "just" requires moores law of hardware evolution)
6. Crossfire / SLI Support
7. Future scalability to Direct X 10 (Which i believe all being well will be with us in the next update to our game Book 11, You See because the developers of our chosen game subscription concentrated on polish and a production ready finish at release, their pre live targets became content updates and regular ones. Its a great business model.....)
8. Dynamic lighting and Environment drop shadows actually an engine that supports most of the Direct X 9 Specification....possibly why LOTRO is one of the better looking MMORPGS out there....
9. I wasnt crashing to desktop every hour up to 4 months after the launch of a product that was deemed in the eyes of its developer ready to demand money and subscription from the general public.........I could really sit down and play my chosen subscription in a great fantasy online world......
10. You know i love not having to flush my own graphics cache because its bloated with disgarded data no longer in use...i can get on with using emotes and other / commands rather that /flush......its fantastic!!
11. Would you like me to continue..............
Best Regards
Magpie
Yes please do.Cause what you listed does not make a game. It just helps it make it look better.
Ok Sure.
You see the points i have highlighted above in red are certainly things that i like to know have been covered in a good standalone title let alone a subscription title and im sure a good percentage of the games playing public is of similar opinion. And gladly i think with LOTRO the priorities were in the right place because these things in my opinion were covered. They dont just simply make the "title look better".
More Importantly my retort to yourself was really aimed at having more to say and post in your own chosen subscriptions titles forums than this one. Considering you dont even play Lord Of the Rings Online i would say the motives of your post and its intent here on our games boards are at best questionable.
Lest i remind you that at least one of the titles you subscribe to currently had an incredibly luke warm reception into the genre and began to become so unpopular that a new lead designer had to be integrated into its development team to inject life and bring the game to the mainstream (But not massively popular) state it is in today. The Other title played by yourself...mmm suffice to say based on budget possibly one of the worst launches in the history of the genre...neither of these issues "have" plagued LOTRO and neither does it look like they will.
I think your posts objectives are exceptionally questionable and i would like to add you dont see me now as an "ex vanguard / ex EQ2" player in the vanguard / EQ2 forums drawing attention of the forum users about "negative" or "decronstructive" posts based elsewhere..........because trust me my friend......if i was that desperate with something to do with my time......
I would have alot more ammunition than you......
Best Regards
Mag
That is what forums are forNow, let's have fun! If you want to come in the EQ2 forum and destroy it, please be my guest!
As for VG, sure, it was far from ready at release... Everyone knows that. Turbine made a choice. They decided to polish over content at release. Fine, it got mad reviews because of that. Now, it got re-reviewed by a lot and it's not that shiny. Why do players feel the need to quit around lvl 30?
Now, turbine will add so many features and content that their is a danger of breaking stuff. I won't be surprize that you will also have to pay for it soon, very soon...
Well youll have to forgive me that i do not concur with your usage and belief in the role of a forum. And you certainly wont find me hanging out in other games boards antagonising their fans. I just dont work that way, i have no hidden agenda to fill. And i will always objectively balance negatives with positives.
Your Correct Turbine did make a choice, and to be honest with you our game the game that i subscribe to along with people here on the LOTRO boards does have its problems, of course it does...the lack of high level content and Instance/Raid based content being one of them. Im educated enough and mature enough to fully admit the flaws.
However I would much rather have a very stable and polished engine and code base in a game at launch with content coming later as the main production drive and focus as opposed to a game that oozes content none of which is playable because the code and engine are so so crippled at launch. It should be noted that the second is a far worse hole from a developing standpoint to dig yourself out of than the first, trust me i know
. Thus why vanguard is "still" currently in the state it is in 10 months after launch.
Im also privledged to be part of the test servers population for LOTRO and i can tell you that although there are some items which are currently rough (Direct X 10 rendering implementation for example) i dont see us paying any time soon for Turbines very wise decision in terms of a polished product business model, sorry to burst your bubble.
Keep it coming Matraque, because i enjoy nothing better than kicking antagonisers like you in the teeth.
Kind Regards
Mag
Originally posted by Matrague
See, you do have a clue on what forums are for
But i don't feel the pain at all
I predict a paying expension in the next 6 months 
They will have too... Cause it seems that they are milking that 7 days trial again. It makes the front page look ugly 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nice try
A very clever attempt at twisting an opinion by cutting off the majoirty of my last post there for my closing comment which contained many valid points you have simply stopped being bothered to answer...it looks like your little personal crusade against the LOTRO forums might be tiring out your limited vocabulary.
So instead you just show the close of the post as a single one liner, so i have included the full context of my argument for you...
Regards
Magpie.
Excellentcheers!
((Pictures Darth Matraque, on a revolving chair wearing dark robes and hood looking out into space through a large portal, Starships are locked in massive battle, There is a white frailty to his skin, he smiles as he looks at Magpie and exclaims "Good, Good, I can feel your anger".....)).
((Sigh))....................
Mmmm
People in glass houses shouldnt really throw stones...dont you think. Are there no people too talk too any more in the vanguard forums.....?? I see Lord of the rings online with still twenty five servers worldwide, NOT 10 servers that have recently been merged into 4. Perhaps you should be more concerned with the state of your own games you subscribe too as opposed to one you beta tested and moved on from after rightly deciding "in your opinion" it was not for you.
I play on the Laurelin server in europe and our population is fine thanks. My kinship has over 30 active members that play very regularly and are not in the least disappointed with their experience. We are still recruiting and see the starter areas with a healthy amount of activity.
You know what i find really NICE Matraque is the ability to play an MMO which at release includes the following features:
1. Production ready stability
2. A high standard of QA at launch
3. Multi threaded application code that utilises my new processors technologies and both its cores.....(I Know it gets better)
4. Anti Aliasing (incredible isnt it?)
5. Scalability across hardware and graphics settings (So my friends can play on all sorts of computers and not be conned into thinking unacceptable production code "just" requires moores law of hardware evolution)
6. Crossfire / SLI Support
7. Future scalability to Direct X 10 (Which i believe all being well will be with us in the next update to our game Book 11, You See because the developers of our chosen game subscription concentrated on polish and a production ready finish at release, their pre live targets became content updates and regular ones. Its a great business model.....)
8. Dynamic lighting and Environment drop shadows actually an engine that supports most of the Direct X 9 Specification....possibly why LOTRO is one of the better looking MMORPGS out there....
9. I wasnt crashing to desktop every hour up to 4 months after the launch of a product that was deemed in the eyes of its developer ready to demand money and subscription from the general public.........I could really sit down and play my chosen subscription in a great fantasy online world......
10. You know i love not having to flush my own graphics cache because its bloated with disgarded data no longer in use...i can get on with using emotes and other / commands rather that /flush......its fantastic!!
11. Would you like me to continue..............
Best Regards
Magpie
Yes please do.Cause what you listed does not make a game. It just helps it make it look better.
Ok Sure.
You see the points i have highlighted above in red are certainly things that i like to know have been covered in a good standalone title let alone a subscription title and im sure a good percentage of the games playing public is of similar opinion. And gladly i think with LOTRO the priorities were in the right place because these things in my opinion were covered. They dont just simply make the "title look better".
More Importantly my retort to yourself was really aimed at having more to say and post in your own chosen subscriptions titles forums than this one. Considering you dont even play Lord Of the Rings Online i would say the motives of your post and its intent here on our games boards are at best questionable.
Lest i remind you that at least one of the titles you subscribe to currently had an incredibly luke warm reception into the genre and began to become so unpopular that a new lead designer had to be integrated into its development team to inject life and bring the game to the mainstream (But not massively popular) state it is in today. The Other title played by yourself...mmm suffice to say based on budget possibly one of the worst launches in the history of the genre...neither of these issues "have" plagued LOTRO and neither does it look like they will.
I think your posts objectives are exceptionally questionable and i would like to add you dont see me now as an "ex vanguard / ex EQ2" player in the vanguard / EQ2 forums drawing attention of the forum users about "negative" or "decronstructive" posts based elsewhere..........because trust me my friend......if i was that desperate with something to do with my time......
I would have alot more ammunition than you......
Best Regards
Mag
That is what forums are forNow, let's have fun! If you want to come in the EQ2 forum and destroy it, please be my guest!
As for VG, sure, it was far from ready at release... Everyone knows that. Turbine made a choice. They decided to polish over content at release. Fine, it got mad reviews because of that. Now, it got re-reviewed by a lot and it's not that shiny. Why do players feel the need to quit around lvl 30?
Now, turbine will add so many features and content that their is a danger of breaking stuff. I won't be surprize that you will also have to pay for it soon, very soon...
Well youll have to forgive me that i do not concur with your usage and belief in the role of a forum. And you certainly wont find me hanging out in other games boards antagonising their fans. I just dont work that way, i have no hidden agenda to fill. And i will always objectively balance negatives with positives.
Your Correct Turbine did make a choice, and to be honest with you our game the game that i subscribe to along with people here on the LOTRO boards does have its problems, of course it does...the lack of high level content and Instance/Raid based content being one of them. Im educated enough and mature enough to fully admit the flaws.
However I would much rather have a very stable and polished engine and code base in a game at launch with content coming later as the main production drive and focus as opposed to a game that oozes content none of which is playable because the code and engine are so so crippled at launch. It should be noted that the second is a far worse hole from a developing standpoint to dig yourself out of than the first, trust me i know
. Thus why vanguard is "still" currently in the state it is in 10 months after launch.
Im also privledged to be part of the test servers population for LOTRO and i can tell you that although there are some items which are currently rough (Direct X 10 rendering implementation for example) i dont see us paying any time soon for Turbines very wise decision in terms of a polished product business model, sorry to burst your bubble.
Keep it coming Matraque, because i enjoy nothing better than kicking antagonisers like you in the teeth.
Kind Regards
Mag
Originally posted by Matrague
See, you do have a clue on what forums are for
But i don't feel the pain at all
I predict a paying expension in the next 6 months 
They will have too... Cause it seems that they are milking that 7 days trial again. It makes the front page look ugly 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nice try
A very clever attempt at twisting an opinion by cutting off the majoirty of my last post there for my closing comment which contained many valid points you have simply stopped being bothered to answer...it looks like your little personal crusade against the LOTRO forums might be tiring out your limited vocabulary.
So instead you just show the close of the post as a single one liner, so i have included the full context of my argument for you...
Regards
Magpie.
Excellentcheers!
((Pictures Darth Matraque, on a revolving chair wearing dark robes and hood looking out into space through a large portal, Starships are locked in massive battle, There is a white frailty to his skin, he smiles as he looks at Magpie and exclaims "Good, Good, I can feel your anger".....)).
((Sigh))....................
eqnext.wikia.com
Oh my. I am amazed on how people can spend so much energy on "how many people play a game"? Shouldn't your time be used in a more productive way? Like explaining why you like or dislike the game? Again, who cares how many people like the game? If you like it, then play it! If not, then dump it. The big question is not "how many play LoTRO?" but, "Do I like playing LoTRO?" And then share those thoughts with us.
Well, then it just fell apart....
Personally...I felt the game could have done a few things different, but I played my 3 months advance payment, then hit the cancel button until the fixes came...and if the game has some of these issues fixed...then I would think of returning (examples are EQ2 and DDO...both of these games have had major improvements which make them better games...and I have bought in)
Now...here is hoping that LOTRO does the same...(and PS: thank you for a sane post in an insane forum...huzzah!)
Cheers!
Wow.
I've been in absentia from these forums for a bit... The call of Vana'diel and an awesome upcoming expansion lured me back to FFXI.
That said... it's amazing the different perspective you have of threads like this when you're not eye-balls deep in them as I, no doubt, was for quite a while.
I recommend people try it. Avoid these forums for about 2 weeks and then come back and read these kinds of threads from a fresh perspective. It really makes you look at the back-and-forth in a whole new light. It's like an enema for the brain. A mental /flush command.
I believe James Hetfield summed it up best, "Can't get caught in the endless circle. Ring of stupidity."
Wierd...
That said, I am probably going to pick up LoTRO again soon here to play it in some capacity... kinda miss my Hunter.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Wait a minute... You actually took a break from LOTRO?
eqnext.wikia.com
Wait a minute... You actually took a break from LOTRO?
lol... Well it was more of a desire to return to FFXI after a break (it's my all-time fav' MMO) which required me to set LoTRO aside; FFXI is a pretty demanding game, especially when you're deep into a series of missions or something.
I didn't feel any need to take a break from LoTRO itself, however. Just a matter of choosing to spend my time in one game or the other... and... at this point, anyway, FFXI will always win over any other MMO I might play. No question.
I do still really like LoTRO, though. Since I'm a less "hectic" period right now though, mostly crafting and making money, I'll probably spend some time and hop back into LoTRO more.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Wait a minute... You actually took a break from LOTRO?
lol... Well it was more of a desire to return to FFXI after a break (it's my all-time fav' MMO) which required me to set LoTRO aside; FFXI is a pretty demanding game, especially when you're deep into a series of missions or something.
I didn't feel any need to take a break from LoTRO itself, however. Just a matter of choosing to spend my time in one game or the other... and... at this point, anyway, FFXI will always win over any other MMO I might play. No question.
I do still really like LoTRO, though. Since I'm a less "hectic" period right now though, mostly crafting and making money, I'll probably spend some time and hop back into LoTRO more.
I see. I never tried FFXI... might have to give it a shot someday. So, if i'm correct... LOTRO is like a temporary fix before the FFXI exp gets released? Is FFXI planning on a re-relase of some sort?
eqnext.wikia.com
Wait a minute... You actually took a break from LOTRO?
lol... Well it was more of a desire to return to FFXI after a break (it's my all-time fav' MMO) which required me to set LoTRO aside; FFXI is a pretty demanding game, especially when you're deep into a series of missions or something.
I didn't feel any need to take a break from LoTRO itself, however. Just a matter of choosing to spend my time in one game or the other... and... at this point, anyway, FFXI will always win over any other MMO I might play. No question.
I do still really like LoTRO, though. Since I'm a less "hectic" period right now though, mostly crafting and making money, I'll probably spend some time and hop back into LoTRO more.
I see. I never tried FFXI... might have to give it a shot someday. So, if i'm correct... LOTRO is like a temporary fix before the FFXI exp gets released? Is FFXI planning on a re-relase of some sort?
Well... yes and no.
I'm what my friends affectionately (of course! :-p) call a "MMO Whore". I'm a fan of the genre in general and so will tend to try out any MMO that catches my interest, at least on a trial basis. I even like trying out the more obscure or less popular ones; each one has something about it that I find interesting or intriguing, even if the game overall doesn't win me over.
That said, I don't want to go off on a FFXI tangent here in the LoTRO forums... and, believe me, I could very easily
.. Suffice to say that FFXI is about as much a polar opposite of the "casual friendly" approach to LoTRO or WoW, etc. as you can get. Not solo friendly, though there are options for soloing for those truly dedicated to it. Slow-paced. No hand-holding. And on and on. One thing is that it starts off slowly and very basic; some will tend to think there's nothing to do. It's like this for very good reason, however, and the farther you get in the game the more you understand and appreciate why they don't throw more at you at the beginning. It would be overwhelming, to say the least. I'm playing the game since it came out in NA (almost 4 years to the day) and I'm still overwhelmed at all there is to do.
My recommendation, if you're interested in learning more about it, is to check out ffxiclopedia.org and read up on it. Also, check out limitbreakradio.com, and listen to some of their podcasts. A good one in particular is Podcast 17, "Sea". That one alone will give you a good insight into one of the game's several "high-end game" type activities/areas, how difficult it is to get through and, in particular, details about what is still arguably the game's toughest baddie right now, "Absolute Virtue". There are some great videos on YouTube of it (look up "Recollection", "Remember", "Epic" and "United".. also look up the expansion trailers). If you're really interested in trying it out, there's a 30 day trial for like... $3 dollars (comes on disc). Game stores should have it... If you do try it, let me know and I'll give ya a proper Pandemonium introduction to Vana'diel
.
All that said - no.. LoTRO isn't "filler" ... I find that with how involving FFXI is, it's good to have a game that complements it. And, frankly, I just enjoy a good game which I do think LoTRO is. I'm really eager to see what Turbine have in store for it in the future.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
WSI, thanks
I'll check if i can find one of those 3$ dics... I have no problem paying for a trial.
eqnext.wikia.com
Good deal. Shoot me a PM here to let me know when you're on, what nation you started in (make sure you select Pandemonium as the server) and I'll make sure to catch up with you in-game.
/salute
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Utterly agree with you, and I've been here the whole time.
I'm still playing LoTRO and enjoying the heck out of it. Finally got around to some monster play last weekend, it was really a blast. I have, however, nearly completely lost interest in this forum. Ten threads where folks are going in the same stupid circles for every one worth reading.
The three huge "how many subs does LoTRO have?" threads followed by this abortion that's essentially the same damn thread wearing a different wig certainly didn't help matters any.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Well, on my server the population is pretty solid. I've only recently achieved 22 level and am still competing with numerous players for quest mobs and resources...etc.
I suppose the players that enjoyed themselves and loved the game so much that they were playing 20+ hours a week might be maxed out at 50, and waiting for more great content. It's a tough problem to have really -- players loving your game so much and being so addicted to it that they eat up all the content quickly. Not much Turbine can do about that. I suppose they could have made a shite game like Vanguard and not had to worry about people playing it so as not to eat up the content...
<shrug>
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I just canceled my account. Hopefully the Monster play along with the game depth gets better by January or it'll be Warhammer or AoC for me.