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LOL @ Ingame Advertisements

GemmaGemma Member UncommonPosts: 337

No thank you, I'll find a new game. I play MMO's to escape reality, and having an ad in game is a horrible way to crush that feeling of being your character. It's one thing to advertise on the website, but in the game? Cmon guys...

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  • dA_fReAKdA_fReAK Member Posts: 384

    wtf? Since when did HG:L add ingame adds? Thats inane!

  • EstrusEstrus Member Posts: 357

    Like what? The faded Dark Horse comics poster in the train station?  Please.

  • Wow4LiferWow4Lifer Member Posts: 255

    The OP demonstrates the hypocrisy that many people demonstrate through their actions. You allow advertising in sports, in reality TV., and even in movies that you watch for the very same reasons you game.  May I ask for what reason you watched any movie that came out in the last ten years then if this bothers you so much? If the gaming company gets more money, then you should support it since it propagates the very games you play - irony, to say the least. Just my opinion and comment on the subject. I’m not flaming.   Seriously though how exactly do the advertisements detract from your role-playing experience considering you haven’t even tried the game yet?

  • dA_fReAKdA_fReAK Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by Wow4Lifer


    The OP demonstrates the hypocrisy that many people demonstrate through their actions. You allow advertising in sports, in reality TV., and even in movies that you watch for the very same reasons you game.  May I ask for what reason you watched any movie that came out in the last ten years then if this bothers you so much? If the gaming company gets more money, then you should support it since it propagates the very games you play - irony, to say the least. Just my opinion and comment on the subject. I’m not flaming.   Seriously though how exactly do the advertisements detract from your role-playing experience considering you haven’t even tried the game yet?

    omgawd ! huge bold text is so pro !

    Like in my other post, I said "I learnt this in WoW" with my entire post in bold and caps-lock.

    So typical, I wonder why though.

  • SunderSunder Member Posts: 334

    ZOMG! I can not believe it! What next, someone who wants to make a game design detailed enough that the side of a gun says smith and wesson?  This completely ruins a game!  Like omg!

    /sarcasm off

    STFU and move along.  Nothing about the game or its design has been impacted.  Just another opportunity being milked for people to whine about.  Sad peoples lives are so lacking that they have nothing better to do with their time than complain about a game having something from the real world in it.

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  • lol at OP's ignorance.  The "ads" are posters in the subway.  Very unobtrusive and even hard to read.  Except for seeing an nvidia or ea logo, you pretty much don't even realize they exist.  In fact, if the subways didn't have advertisements, I'd say the game would actually feel less immersive.  Next time OP, get a clue before spewing your drivel.

    By the way, I hope you don't have cable, otherwise you're quite the hypocrite.

  • ShoalShoal Member Posts: 1,156

    Don't mind in-game ads as long as they are not obtrusive.

    BUT

    You should get something for having to look at them.  Such as AO base game (full game, but no expansions) is free with ads.  But, if you subscribe, they are no longer shown.

  • dA_fReAKdA_fReAK Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by Sunder


    ZOMG! I can not believe it! What next, someone who wants to make a game design detailed enough that the side of a gun says smith and wesson?  This completely ruins a game!  Like omg!
    /sarcasm off
    STFU and move along.  Nothing about the game or its design has been impacted.  Just another opportunity being milked for people to whine about.  Sad peoples lives are so lacking that they have nothing better to do with their time than complain about a game having something from the real world in it.

    True dat, I do agree.

    Infact, in games like CS and HG:L advertising looks more real....

    But in fantasy games... meh...

    "Walks around in World of Warcraft. See's board 'NEW QUADCORE EXTREME'." <--- Thats what I would not accept.

  • GemmaGemma Member UncommonPosts: 337

    Hmm... Seeing coke and nesle ads makes my game experience just so much better. Plus, I love the fact that they scan my computer and take information to dynamically generate ads targeted at me.

    In regards to your movie comment, you don't see things like WalMart ads in the movie 300, do you? Or any other movie in a fantasy setting like that? It's acceptable in a reality TV show, because it's just that, reality. I said I play MMO's to get away from all that junk. If it were a game like The Sims that had present day advertising, it would not be that out of place.

  • HexxeityHexxeity Member Posts: 848

    Originally posted by Wow4Lifer


    The OP demonstrates the hypocrisy that many people demonstrate through their actions. You allow advertising in sports, in reality TV., and even in movies that you watch for the very same reasons you game.  May I ask for what reason you watched any movie that came out in the last ten years then if this bothers you so much? If the gaming company gets more money, then you should support it since it propagates the very games you play - irony, to say the least. Just my opinion and comment on the subject. I’m not flaming.   
    Seriously though how exactly do the advertisements detract from your role-playing experience considering you haven’t even tried the game yet?
    Product placement in movies and TV shows is not the same as advertising ... but even so, it certainly does detract from my enjoyment if it is too blatant.  The season premiere of Heroes made me want to puke when HRG gave Claire a new car and she called it by its brand name (coincidentally it was the exact car running in all the commercials during that episode).

    If the game is any good, it will make more than enough money from subscriptions to support its ongoing development.  Beyond that point, any ad revenues would go directly into pocket of the owners or shareholders.

     

    Ads in free-to-play games are an understandable and necessary evil.  But I will never pay a subscription fee for a game with ads.

  • Wow4LiferWow4Lifer Member Posts: 255

    So you mean the thousands and thousands of cigarettes kids started smoking, I a premiary example and hundreds of my friends,  because of the hundres of movies that had actors smoking cigarettes in them, like Brad Pitt, aren't considered blatant advertisements for phillip morris the cigarettes manufacturer that controls atleast 50 percent of the industry? I think  DeFacto no, but in reality yes. An advertisement is an advertisement, product placement is one form of advertising.

  • gadunkgadunk Member UncommonPosts: 164

    this isn't 1,000,000 years in the future. There are ads in London right now, and who's to say those ads wouldn't still be hung up on walls of train stations, etc. if demons spewed forth from the depths of wherever.

    The ads fit into the game just fine. The ONLY reason people boohoo about them is because they boohoo about EVERYTHING.

  • rawrxbradrawrxbrad Member UncommonPosts: 117

    Originally posted by Gemma


    Hmm... Seeing coke and nesle ads makes my game experience just so much better. Plus, I love the fact that they scan my computer and take information to dynamically generate ads targeted at me.
    In regards to your movie comment, you don't see things like WalMart ads in the movie 300, do you? Or any other movie in a fantasy setting like that? It's acceptable in a reality TV show, because it's just that, reality. I said I play MMO's to get away from all that junk. If it were a game like The Sims that had present day advertising, it would not be that out of place.
    PEPSI (For SPARRRRRRRRRRRTAAAAA!)

    no but then again its not really a fantasy setting, if you go to the official site the setting is in 2038

  • Wow4LiferWow4Lifer Member Posts: 255

    No but what I do see are ads before the movie, which detract from the experience none the less. Especialy when they add a half hour to the movie time from start to finish. And I'm assuming you are from the U.s. so you see them as well.

  • GemmaGemma Member UncommonPosts: 337

    Originally posted by Wow4Lifer


    No but what I do see are ads before the movie, which detract from the experience none the less. Especialy when they add a half hour to the movie time from start to finish. And I'm assuming you are from the U.s. so you see them as well.

    That doesn't detract from the movie at all. In fact, that is how advertising should be done if it must be. EQ2 is a good example. Before you get to the character select screen, you see an nVidia logo, which is advertising, but does not interfere with the actual game at all.

  • Originally posted by Hexxeity


     
    Ads in free-to-play games are an understandable and necessary evil.  But I will never pay a subscription fee for a game with ads.

    Oh well.  Your loss.  Maybe some day you'll mature and realize that your black/white principles on life are to your detriment.

  • nakumanakuma Member UncommonPosts: 1,310

    i can agree with both sides on the matter. yeah with cable tv you have commercials, this much is true. but suposably this keeps the overall cost down of delivering content to you, such as specific channels .e.g tech, sports, cooking, world international news etc. now personally i dont really like commercials whenever one comes i usually just change over to a new channel until the show comes back on. so in some way i have semi control on how much commercialism im exposed to. not to mention commercials really do not impact my shopping habits in any form. then again maybe thats just me. now the bottom line is commercials for cables enables e.g. Timewarner or comcast to lower their prices to viewers, which in turn increase their viewership/ customers due to this.

    In movies? what commercials and ads? you means the ones at the very beginning when walk into the theater? 10 minutes of movie previews? cant realyl compare that, your arguement would hold weight if they showed a pepsi commercial or a nike ad during the movie of 300. so since your experience is uninterrupted cant really use that as a debate. as Far as games and adverts are concerned, I can careless about the spyware myth, that doesnt bother me, as pretty much every online game has some sort of script or 3rd party program that scans your computer for bots, hacks, and other various forms of hackery. not to mention scanning your system to make sure your software(game version) is up to date. so that doesnt bother me, what does bother me is that EA for example has yet to pass on any savings onto the playerbase. you still pay $50 for a game, you still pay for expansions $20-30, in Hellgates case, your still paying $10 a month for an elite subscription with adverts enabled. so frankly that what bothers me, dont tell me "oh but this allows them to pay for more content" poppycock! rubbish lol. this allows them to make quick cash to line their pockets. dont let the obvious cloud your judgement. i

    f this was in fact the case, id say the monthly elite subscription would run more lik $5.95-6.99 a month. that i wouldnt mind too much. but $10 a month (which just short of full blown MMO sub price) your getting Guildwars gameplay, nothing more than instanced grouping with patches of areas where players can gather to trade, talk and pvp. that to me doesnt really sound like a True MMO. Guildwars also isnt a true MMO, its a variant, but it holds more similarity to MMO than HG:L does. its nothing more than a Glorified Online game with Auction house, and areas to fart around in. true the game has a free sub base. but your limited in a lot of ways in which the devs cater to only the elite subs and your left to pick up the scraps 3-4 months down the line when they release the content in an expansion. We can debate this up and down the road.  the point is that Adverts in games so far hasnt been justified, as they havent lowered the price point of a game, hasnt "enhanced" the content delivery rate of the game. and it hasnt brought expansions that are cheaper and have more detailed content. Id say if you want to pay it, cool, id say have fun, i wont knock ya for that. there is something for everyone i guess. but lets not try to hide the obvious on the subject of adverts in games. lets try to be a bit realistic and upfront with each other shall we?

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  • HoldMeHoldMe Member Posts: 99

    open hosts.ini

    copy and paste these lines to it..

    127.0.0.1 madserver.net

    127.0.0.1 ad.madserver.net

    127.0.0.1 imp.madserver.net

    127.0.0.1 media.madserver.net

    save.

    No more ads in Hellgate:london

    Your're welcome.

  • EvilScribbleEvilScribble Member Posts: 30

    Solution: Escape reality in a different way so you're not pissing off mature people.

    Try smoking a couple doobies.

  • InteritusInteritus Member UncommonPosts: 236

    First off, I suggest the OP actually take a trip to London and look at the Underground.  It is in fact that flooded with advertisements.  And as others have said, they are faded and not noticeable. My biggest gripe is they are all about computer based products. I'd like to see more variety in the in game advertising, that would make it really realistic.

    As for product placement in movies, try using a movig other then 300 that wasn't based 2000 years ago. Show me a movie in today's world that DOESN'T have logos everywhere.  Hell Castaway is like a giant commercial for FedEx, I am Sam has Starbucks as almost a character in the movie. To say there are no product placements or advertising in movies in stupid. And proving your point by using a fantasy setting only makes you look foolish.

     

  • fervorfervor Member Posts: 145

    What are wrong with you people?  Do you want the developers to make a good game or not?

    The gaming industry is already extremely cutthroat and even some of the biggest names are just a few commercial failures away from bankruptcy.

    This is a brand new studio that made a fairly ambitious game.  If advertising can support their development efforts at making a better game, then I give them 100% of my support.

    Most game developers do their job because they love making games, not for the money.  I can easily overlook some advertising to support them.

  • XPottsyXXPottsyX Member Posts: 1

    I'd of thought it would be logical to have advertisements plastered on the wall like there is in London lol, otherwise what's the point on basing it in London if your not going to keep the similarity?

    But i haven't read the entire thread, so incase you meant advertisements that flash on and off while you play, tbh since they are giving you an option to pay to play or play for free, you don't have a right to complain, adverts like that make up for the free game play, and im sure if you payed for the game, they would disappear.

    However, the size of the adverts can be a pain, that's the only reason i can see for complaint, but if they're a reasonable size and don't really effect your game play, it shouldn't matter.

  • iffymackiffymack Member Posts: 376

    I only noticed the ads after I ran up to 2 dirty battered looking posters in the subway.Ive yet to see an out in the game world,or have any flashing neon signs pop up as im shooting something.

    9dragons in game advertising was intrusive;small posters that blend in to the game world so much that you actually have to go and find them isnt.

    perhaps it gets bad later on i have no idea (only level 6).

  • aristoculousaristoculous Member Posts: 159

    Originally posted by nakuma


    i can agree with both sides on the matter. yeah with cable tv you have commercials, this much is true. but suposably this keeps the overall cost down of delivering content to you, such as specific channels .e.g tech, sports, cooking, world international news etc. now personally i dont really like commercials whenever one comes i usually just change over to a new channel until the show comes back on. so in some way i have semi control on how much commercialism im exposed to. not to mention commercials really do not impact my shopping habits in any form. then again maybe thats just me. now the bottom line is commercials for cables enables e.g. Timewarner or comcast to lower their prices to viewers, which in turn increase their viewership/ customers due to this.
    In movies? what commercials and ads? you means the ones at the very beginning when walk into the theater? 10 minutes of movie previews? cant realyl compare that, your arguement would hold weight if they showed a pepsi commercial or a nike ad during the movie of 300. so since your experience is uninterrupted cant really use that as a debate. as Far as games and adverts are concerned, I can careless about the spyware myth, that doesnt bother me, as pretty much every online game has some sort of script or 3rd party program that scans your computer for bots, hacks, and other various forms of hackery. not to mention scanning your system to make sure your software(game version) is up to date. so that doesnt bother me, what does bother me is that EA for example has yet to pass on any savings onto the playerbase. you still pay $50 for a game, you still pay for expansions $20-30, in Hellgates case, your still paying $10 a month for an elite subscription with adverts enabled. so frankly that what bothers me, dont tell me "oh but this allows them to pay for more content" poppycock! rubbish lol. this allows them to make quick cash to line their pockets. dont let the obvious cloud your judgement. i
    f this was in fact the case, id say the monthly elite subscription would run more lik $5.95-6.99 a month. that i wouldnt mind too much. but $10 a month (which just short of full blown MMO sub price) your getting Guildwars gameplay, nothing more than instanced grouping with patches of areas where players can gather to trade, talk and pvp. that to me doesnt really sound like a True MMO. Guildwars also isnt a true MMO, its a variant, but it holds more similarity to MMO than HG:L does. its nothing more than a Glorified Online game with Auction house, and areas to fart around in. true the game has a free sub base. but your limited in a lot of ways in which the devs cater to only the elite subs and your left to pick up the scraps 3-4 months down the line when they release the content in an expansion. We can debate this up and down the road.  the point is that Adverts in games so far hasnt been justified, as they havent lowered the price point of a game, hasnt "enhanced" the content delivery rate of the game. and it hasnt brought expansions that are cheaper and have more detailed content. Id say if you want to pay it, cool, id say have fun, i wont knock ya for that. there is something for everyone i guess. but lets not try to hide the obvious on the subject of adverts in games. lets try to be a bit realistic and upfront with each other shall we?
    QFT

     

    Bravo!

    to sum up :D    -    Games like Hell's gate london with adds in it should not retail for $49 or $59, just as any other game that does not have advertisement.

  • dewolfedewolfe Member Posts: 19

    What really? I have been playing this game for hours and hours and didn't even know there were ads... lol.

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