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Do you get used to this?
Desetes
Member UncommonPosts: 88
in EVE Online
I played the trial and I just hated the interaction between people. Like when you're fighting someone you're just looking at an icon because their ship is 5000m away. In something like WoW people are much more closer, getting cool looking gear feels good because people can actually see it. And in groups in eve people are probably 1000m apart since there is no reason to manually maneuver your ship to get together.
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Please stay in WoW.
Thank you!
Why?
Eve != WoW.
Now do what airstrike said.
Yeah you should just stay with WoW:)
Way to represent a games community. With those kind of responses to a valid question I can see many people waiting in line to join. You could try answering the question, or how you dealt with it and then pointed out some key features your game has to offer. Apparently that was too hard.
Sorry, just getting tired of the 100+ threads asking why eve isnt like wow. Every day someone asks that. And every time a quick look into the 100+ threads explaining the life, universe and everything in eve would have helped.
The reason I chose WoW as an example is because it's the most popular "traditional" MMO. I meant any MMO where you are on the ground and interact closely with other people.
His only question was that of how do you get over the fact of playing a ship. It is hard for some people to become attached, for a lack of a better word, to their character that they can't see inside of a standard issue ship. Some can get over it when they learn game mechanics more, some can't. Either way meeting new potential players with hostility isn't the best way for community building. By the way I'm not an EvE player, but also play a smaller niche MMO myself.
Seriously,get a clue.Eve is probably the single original mmo on the market atm.No dumped down easy-mode gameplay for people who just want to kill,get killed,respawn and repeat.For no purpose at all.
And by the OP's response to our responses,it's clear that he isnt very mature.And answer what question,he just wrote some random stuff and said WoW is better basicly...
Internet Spaceships would be quite funny with little dwarfes jumping around in...space, wouldnt it?
Now throw away everything you have seen in traditional mmos, eve is different in every single aspect anyways.
Seriously,get a clue.Eve is probably the single original mmo on the market atm.No dumped down easy-mode gameplay for people who just want to kill,get killed,respawn and repeat.For no purpose at all.
And by the OP's response to our responses,it's clear that he isnt very mature.And answer what question,he just wrote some random stuff and said WoW is better basicly...
WoW has alot of players. No game can expect all of it's playerbase to represent the game maturely. The OP asked a valid question and was met with hostility. Then he then respond back immaturely. Of course it's pretty clear to see he only did so after being answered by people with a condescending elitist attitude. Noone even addressed his question. The fact that you may have to daily deal with 5, 10, 1000 people asking what you feel are "stupid" questions does not mean you need to become irritated and start belittling others. If you can't handle discussion and questions then maybe general discussion forums aren't for you.Put bluntly, you started this threads immaturity before the OP was sadly drawn into it.
I understand where you're coming from. When I was playing EVE I was in that completely normal mindset of wanting eye-candy. When playing WoW, or even single-player games, it's alright to sacrifice some stat or another for an elf's head on the end of your giant shiny axe. In EVE, sacrificing performance and blasting power for looks when gearing up will be quite the hinderance.
Your opponents and party members will know just how shiny you are when ships start falling out of the sky due to your smart ship setup.
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Although it won't affect in game combat it is noted that in the future they plan to give players the abiity to leave the shit and interact with others in a social setting. This may be some help to the players, myself included that get hung up over the fact of looking at a large spaceship all the time. Isn't it sad that someone who doesn't play this game is the one who tries to help by posting something meaningful?
the issue is addressed on the frontpage of this site.
www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/14/setView/features/loadFeature/1557
a video of it
www.tentonhammer.com/index.php
more info can be found at
myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp
Well, i find it sad that people do not read the existing threads with complains or valid points .
Yknow, they are there.
Now honestly, I don't care about 'cool looking gear'..... I use/wear whatever imparts the best stats, but again, other players really seem to care about that. EVE might not be their game then.
As to your last point.... you are correct.... EVE players almost never get withing 1000m of each other.... one well placed smart bomb can heavily damage all ships within a 15km -20km radius....so we tend to stay quite far apart when flying.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
As previously stated.. you could always just ignore the post. Or if you wanted to and apparently just did link the person to the related discussions ( although the subtle condescending tone still isn't welcoming).Part of the point of MMORPG games is the community. Being rude to new players is no way to keep them a part of the community. Most likely at one point in time you were new to the game and someone with more knowledge probably answered your question, for probably the 137th time they saw it. It's nice every once in a while to step off of your pedestal and remember where you came from.
By the way your links don't work correctly.
The question the OP asked was not the simple and valid question that Unicorn_Pwn posted he was asking. He was not referencing the fact of not associating yourself, but instead your ship. It was actually the exact opposite, perhaps from the poor choice of example though. Saying that your disappointed because people aren't right up close to see your "Phat Lootz" that you need to show off, will garner a far more hostile response then the question that you suggested. The I need to show off my "Purps" mentality is something that is not something that floats well with the EVE community, I would go with it being the exact opposite of most EVE train of thought.
You should get used to it... well, if you enjoy you definitely will.
What helps for me is Ventrilo - If you manage to find yourself a good corp that provides TeamSpeak or Ventrilo, you'll have a much easier time getting used to it.
You don't use WADS to manoeuvre, but there's a lot of movement tactics involved, as -depending on your role- you're going to need to tackle that enemy ship correctly, else you're dead.
-iCeh
you are not interacting any closer with them if you are standing right next to thier game character with yours or 5000m away. they are still just as far away sitting behind another computer, like you. i dont see how it makes it feel better to you, if your character is next to them or not. retarded imo.
[edit] where it says "console" i meant overview, oops.
I'm pretty sure that what the OP is trying to get at is that, if you wanted to, you could play straight from the console while in combat. 99% of combat my opponent is a red cross or blinky red icon on my screen and console. In all honesty the only reason we need ship grahpics in Eve is to be able to see what ship we are flying and to see wtf you are bumping into outside of a station in Jita. When I want to know what kinda of ship someone is flying before I start shooting I either judge by it's size in console or by hovering my cursor over it. I rarely zoom in on anyone in combat unless I'm not actually in combat.
At least thats what I think he was talking about.
To answer his question - yes, well -- I did.
And lol @ the over-reating fanboi's. Happens everytime someone asks any question, troll ot not. An above poster said it best when he said to just ignore the post. Didn't yur mothers ever teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all?
As a long time player of EVE, I personally could not care less about "graphically engaging" my fellow pilots. In fact, being graphically stimulated takes a long back seat to performance. In EVE, your overview becomes your world and those little icons its life's blood.
In EVE, it's not about who has sexy armor. It's about statistics and performance. Because of its unique nature, EVE's player base, by default, consists of mostly more mature members of the gaming community and eye candy just doesn't seem to matter as much.
It's a shift from tradition, I know, and an adjustment in your thinking is required, but that's just the way it is. The backdrop of EVE has plenty of pretty pixels to ogle, and that's sufficient for me. The only graphics I'm truly interested in is the flashing of my EVEmail inbox when I get a good kill and the flashing of my wallet icon when I sell my hard earned loot.
Rude or not, some of the previous posters' sentiments ring true. If you're obsessed with how pretty your character is, then EVE might just not be the place for you. It's not a fundimental necessity to game content and in fact would probably detract from the spirit of the game by creating unnecessary loads on actual play.
EVE is ambitious and driven, from chump change market transactions all the way up to a 5 or 600 ship fleet battle. "Pretty" takes a backseat. Always has, always will.
Once again, not to be rude, but if being able to strut around that one of a kind breastplate ranks high on your list of priorities, being stared at in awe by the 'nubs', then yes, WoW will be infinitely more appealing, especially when a combat pilot comes along, blows your ship, and takes your precious golden egg for himself.
If the OP's post was better thought out I'd suspect better responces. Don't take the reactions personal...they're in direct contrast to the nature of your post.WoW = Checkers; EVE = Chest
And by the OP's response to our responses,it's clear that he isnt very mature.And answer what question,he just wrote some random stuff and said WoW is better basicly...
The OP asked a valid question and was met with hostility. Then he then respond back immaturely. Of course it's pretty clear to see he only did so after being answered by people with a condescending elitist attitude. Noone even addressed his question. "THE" question is "do <we> get used to it?" The responces were quite obviously "no". We do NOT get used to unintellgent comparrisons to EVE from posters who lack the ability to check thread and/or ask for other info relating to the game and it's play style. Nor do we get used to posts that are nothing more then flamebait without providing anything substantial to the threads.No where in the OP's post is there a question. It's a few statements that basically say "EVE sucks and I like WoW better". The title of the thread is asking if we get used to "that", and the answer is still no.
Hence, keep playing WoW.
Be glad that these elitist pricks dont represent the community in Eve. Even though I personally dont like that game, the community is nice, and helpful. But what can you expect on a forum?
Ofcourse they need to compare other mmo's to the most successful, and played mmo out there. What's the point of comparing mmo's with other mmo's people havent even heard of? No matter how much people hate WoW, there's no denying it's appeal to people. I wish other gamedevelopers take a few notes on how to do things from WoW. Not wowify their game, but lessen the boring stuff.
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
This thread confirms the thought I've had all along about EVE players:
Masochistic, elitist pricks.
The guy pointed out a single aspect that he was having a hard time getting used to in EVE, and every one of you jumped down his throat.
Yes, we know EVE is different than most MMO's.
Yes, we know EVE isn't based on graphical one on one interaction.
Yes, we know that you enjoy reading 600 page stereo instruction booklets then enjoy even more bragging about the fact that you read it from beginning to end.
We know these things, you don't have to be pompous jerk offs about it.
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