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Hi all,
Just though Id give you my review of Tabula Rasa.
In my opinion, best described as Guild Wars cross with KOTR. The basic concept is you run around shooting stuff world of Warcraft style, while grinding out levels which really means nothing unless its 5 15 or 30 in which you get to choose your new skills.
While levelling sometimes you will go on instanced missions to kill this and that which have a very nice video but in terms of in game direction most of the time you will have no idea what’s going on.
The "quests" are very generic I might just be jaded from Guild wars and World of Warcraft but these quests feel like they mean nothing, i.e. Go fetch some medical supplies. You return them she says thanks and the world moves on, Welcome to a day in the Life of World of Warcraft.
The cloning system which has been promoted as the best thing since sliced bread is so minor I totally glossed over it in game. What the point of cloning so I can play this same generic stuff more? At least with Guild Wars I got a whole range of new stuff, with TR i get around 2 new skills and 2 new abilities at level 5 15 and 30 SUPER.
In terms of graphics I really wasn’t in awe. Some shader effects and stuff but nothing that hasn’t been seen before. Character movement is a complete joke, they run like robots. They jump like 3x too high. Falling off a cliff seems to cause the collision detection to freak out especially if you are between two concave planes which on my system cause me to pause for 2-3 minutes then fall to the ground taking massive damage. Other issues like transparent terrain walls and small objects i can’t step over crop up regularly.
The weapons, now I may be wrong here but the entire game comes down to 6 different weapons (then if i want to get mean i could break it down to two different).
Pistol
Rifle
Shotgun
Leech Gun
Chaingun
Launcher
Now of those guns they only really do 2 things:
1) Direct Damage
Note: Pistol(Slow fire rate), Rifle (Medium fire rate), Chaingun (Fast fire rate).
2) Area Damage
Personally I found it depressing. Everything i did could be broken down into those categories. Its game play seems to involve working out if you are facing a heap of guys or a few guys and choosing the weapon appropriately. Cover so far hasn't really made any difference to me at all. Even the basics like standing behind a wall out of line of sight doesn’t appear to work as the AI seems to just shoot thru the walls (VERY DEPRESSING).
I would say my biggest issue with Tabula Rasa is the way it is completely directionless. I'm not a complete newbie here, I have been playing Eve online for over 2 years now and that game is the king of directionless game play, Tabula Rasa kicks the crap out of it, 90% of the time I have no idea why I'm running to Orange dot on the map, It doesn’t appear to hinder me at all. I just plod along till I see an icon and bang mission complete. I am told to collect some crap symbols which apparently mean something (I don’t know what, Digital Distributions don’t come with the manual).
My magically abilities have largely unknown effect until you test them and even then who knows, Do i invest points or not???? What’s the pros and cons of the ability why should i make an investment here rather than there???? I might as well add at this point apparently you can’t respec, so crap to you if you invest all your points in lightning and they nerf the hell out of it.
The whole thing smacks of trying to cash in on MMO's with a "Trusted" (by who?) name. He largest claim to fame was UO which in my opinion was largely based upon the people in the game not some kind of pseudo master plan he cooked up.
I am personally cancelling my sub after the one "free" month. If you are going to give it a go, I would really consider the Digital Delivery as paying AU$100 in stores or AU$50 online because either this game will get a serious rethink or it will be flushed in 1-3 months.
Regards,
Oglem
Comments
Why wouldn't you just use a clone of yourself to test out the different "specs"? Maybe I was wrong, but I was under the impression that was a good use for clones.
[quote]Originally posted by oglem
[b]Hi all,
Just though Id give you my review of Tabula Rasa.
In my opinion, best described as Guild Wars cross with KOTR. The basic concept is you run around shooting stuff world of Warcraft style Not sure what you mean World of Warcraft style. If you mean MMORPG style welcome to the genre. while grinding out levels which really means nothing unless its 5 15 or 30 in which you get to choose your new skills. Gonna agree with you here. TR is grinding, just a really pretty and 'fun for me' grinding.
While levelling sometimes you will go on instanced missions to kill this and that which have a very nice video but in terms of in game direction most of the time you will have no idea whats going on. I find that hard to believe... unless you're a WoW player where you can simply read your quest log for the whole text again. TR does have a lot of point in their quests.
The "quests" are very generic I might just be jaded from Guild wars and World of Warcraft but these quests feel like they mean nothing, i.e. Go fetch some medical supplies. You return them she says thanks and the world moves on, Welcome to a day in the Life of World of Warcraft. Welcome to a day in the life of any pre-existing, soon-to-be-made MMORPG.
The cloning system which has been promoted as the best thing since sliced bread is so minor I totally glossed over it in game. What the point of cloning so I can play this same generic stuff more? At least with Guild Wars I got a whole range of new stuff, with TR i get around 2 new skills and 2 new abilities at level 5 15 and 30 SUPER. Again, going to agree with you. I find the cloning system stupid. If you want me to try other branches, let me respec, don't lock me into the choice. And a cloning system doesn't help because I have to level him up. Why not start a new character?
In terms of graphics I really wasnt in awe. Some shader effects and stuff but nothing that hasnt been seen before. Yeah... pretty common with all MMORPGs. I mean World of Warcraft doesn't look like COD4, but you don't see me whining. Character movement is a complete joke, they run like robots. They jump like 3x too high. Falling off a cliff seems to cause the collision detection to freak out especially if you are between two concave planes which on my system cause me to pause for 2-3 minutes then fall to the ground taking massive damage. Never had that happen and done plenty of cliff diving, but that's why they have /bug. Other issues like transparent terrain walls and small objects i cant step over crop up regularly. Again, never had that happen, but that's what /bug is for.
The weapons, now I may be wrong here but the entire game comes down to 6 different weapons (then if i want to get mean i could break it down to two different).
Pistol
Rifle
Shotgun
Leech Gun
Chaingun
Launcher
Pretty sure you forgot a few
Now of those guns they only really do 2 things:
1) Direct Damage
Note: Pistol(Slow fire rate), Rifle (Medium fire rate), Chaingun (Fast fire rate).
2) Area Damage Not sure if there's DOT or not, but there must be because the caretakers throw that green crap at you, but other then that... welcome to every game where damage is prevelant. I don't mean video games I mean like D&D stuff too. What kind of other damage types are there?
Personally I found it depressing. Everything i did could be broken down into those categories. Its game play seems to involve working out if you are facing a heap of guys or a few guys and choosing the weapon appropriately. Cover so far hasn't really made any difference to me at all. Even the basics like standing behind a wall out of line of sight doesnt appear to work as the AI seems to just shoot thru the walls (VERY DEPRESSING). While I've never been shot while hiding behind a wall, I have had lag make it look like I was, but that's because all those special effects hitting me causes my connection to momentarily freeze up. I do find it frustrating that walls and stuff don't actually supply you with a benefit. Any defense bonus is negated by the fact that my character can't see the enemy and does less damage as a result. That's something they should fix for sure.
I would say my biggest issue with Tabula Rasa is the way it is completely directionless. I'm not a complete newbie here, I have been playing Eve online for over 2 years now and that game is the king of directionless game play, Tabula Rasa kicks the crap out of it, 90% of the time I have no idea why I'm running to Orange dot on the map, It doesnt appear to hinder me at all. I just plod along till I see an icon and bang mission complete. I am told to collect some crap symbols which apparently mean something (I dont know what, Digital Distributions dont come with the manual). [color=#ff1444]Again you've got to read the quest text and you've got to go into the game with an understanding of the story or you won't get it.[/quote]
My magically abilities have largely unknown effect until you test them and even then who knows, Do i invest points or not???? Whats the pros and cons of the ability why should i make an investment here rather than there???? And every spec ever invented in every other MMORPG was made with the same questions in mind. I might as well add at this point apparently you cant respec, so crap to you if you invest all your points in lightning and they nerf the hell out of it. You did add and I did agree with you.
The whole thing smacks of trying to cash in on MMO's with a "Trusted" (by who?) name. He largest claim to fame was UO which in my opinion was largely based upon the people in the game not some kind of pseudo master plan he cooked up.
I am personally cancelling my sub after the one "free" month. If you are going to give it a go, I would really consider the Digital Delivery as paying AU$100 in stores or AU$50 online because either this game will get a serious rethink or it will be flushed in 1-3 months. Guess we'll see in 1-3 months.
Regards,
Oglem[/b][/quote]
my comments in brackets:
In my opinion, best described as Guild Wars cross with KOTR. The basic concept is you run around shooting stuff world of Warcraft style, while grinding out levels which really means nothing unless its 5 15 or 30 in which you get to choose your new skills.
(there was shooting in wow? You get 2 new skill points every level. Adding additional skill points into most skills doesn’t just improve the power of the skill but generally adds different effects to it – i.e. Lighting 2 hits multiple targets vs. Lightning 1 so in effect you now have a single target and an AE lightning spells and you can the one best suited for situation – abilities have 5 ranks each. 5, 15 and 30 you get to choose your class, so you get more skill to pick from, you can’t actually take all those skills since you need more levels to get skill points. You can distribute your skill points as you wish so a level 30 character can have completely different skills from another of the same class)
While levelling sometimes you will go on instanced missions to kill this and that which have a very nice video but in terms of in game direction most of the time you will have no idea what’s going on.
The "quests" are very generic I might just be jaded from Guild wars and World of Warcraft but these quests feel like they mean nothing, i.e. Go fetch some medical supplies. You return them she says thanks and the world moves on, Welcome to a day in the Life of World of Warcraft.
(uhm, if the stuff is very generic, how do you explain not knowing what’s going on? You are either easily confused or the stuff is unique enough that you didn’t “get it”. As far as fetching medical supplies, what do you expect to happen? You played EVE for 2 years, as far as I remember the missions in EVE are even less involving. Here at least there is some cool stuff like “now that you’ve scouted the area, go kill boss and set up a beacon so we can air strike the facility” and then you go do that and watch the rain of fire come down. You are at war with the bane. Getting medical supplies means you’ve helped people. If this doesn’t do anything for you, you probably shouldn’t play roleplaying games in general. No offence, but this is sort of the backbone of the genre.)
The cloning system which has been promoted as the best thing since sliced bread is so minor I totally glossed over it in game. What the point of cloning so I can play this same generic stuff more? At least with Guild Wars I got a whole range of new stuff, with TR i get around 2 new skills and 2 new abilities at level 5 15 and 30 SUPER.
(you get 5 abilities and 2 skills per tier, there are 4 tiers. As I explained, each ability also has 5 ranks which in 50% of the cases are all different, so 1 ability actually is 5 different abilities. So by the time you’re 50, you have choice of 20 abilities and 10 or so skills. Half of those abilities have branching versions so you get a choice of approximately 50-70 things different things you can choose to spec for and cast. It’s about on par with other MMOs I’ve played. )
In terms of graphics I really wasn’t in awe. Some shader effects and stuff but nothing that hasn’t been seen before. Character movement is a complete joke, they run like robots. They jump like 3x too high. Falling off a cliff seems to cause the collision detection to freak out especially if you are between two concave planes which on my system cause me to pause for 2-3 minutes then fall to the ground taking massive damage. Other issues like transparent terrain walls and small objects i can’t step over crop up regularly.
(you probably had some hardware confict, I’ve never encountered a single one of the issues you mention. While I agree that graphics aren’t anything special, but all the specifics sound like compatibility bugs which I haven’t had. Same goes for character movement, this game has the best character movement I’ve seen in about 15 different MMOs, the only one better being EQ2)
The weapons, now I may be wrong here but the entire game comes down to 6 different weapons (then if i want to get mean i could break it down to two different).
Pistol
Rifle
Shotgun
Leech Gun
Chaingun
Launcher
(you missed a couple: Torqueshell Rifle, Torque Pistol, Blades, Staves, Net Gun, Polarity Gun, Injector Gun, possibly more. Basically you missed more than you mentioned. Also, each gun type comes in in 5 or 6 different damage types which are best against different types of mobs and each can be modified with about 20 different effects)
Now of those guns they only really do 2 things:
1) Direct Damage
Note: Pistol(Slow fire rate), Rifle (Medium fire rate), Chaingun (Fast fire rate).
2) Area Damage
Personally I found it depressing. Everything i did could be broken down into those categories. Its game play seems to involve working out if you are facing a heap of guys or a few guys and choosing the weapon appropriately. Cover so far hasn't really made any difference to me at all. Even the basics like standing behind a wall out of line of sight doesn’t appear to work as the AI seems to just shoot thru the walls (VERY DEPRESSING).
(also they can(depending on weapon): leech HP, leech power, knock opponents back, knock opponents down, stun opponents, root opponents, dot opponents, pass through armor, etc. also, I haven’t seen a mob shoot through any walls since beta, can you give details in what are this happened so I can bug report it, they fixed most instances of this in beta.)
I would say my biggest issue with Tabula Rasa is the way it is completely directionless. I'm not a complete newbie here, I have been playing Eve online for over 2 years now and that game is the king of directionless game play, Tabula Rasa kicks the crap out of it, 90% of the time I have no idea why I'm running to Orange dot on the map, It doesn’t appear to hinder me at all. I just plod along till I see an icon and bang mission complete. I am told to collect some crap symbols which apparently mean something (I don’t know what, Digital Distributions don’t come with the manual).
(I never read a manual. Every single thing is VERY clearly explained IN-game. If you don’t know what’s going on, it because you didn’t read what you were being told. If at any point in time you don’t know why you are running to an orange dot, you need only press L and you can look up the mission and objectives. Furthermore you can get these displayed in point form in a mini journal. If you don’t CARE what’s going on, that’s a different story. Again, it simply sounds like playing an RPG is not your cup of tea. You say you played eve, when the mission told you to travel to a spot on the map and kill some pirates, what helped you know what’s going on that isn’t in TR? Most people actually criticize TR for being TOO directed. At any given point in time you have lots of objectives and missions and NPCs telling you EXACTLY what to do, where to go and why. I’ve never seen a single person call the game directionless. The only way it could have more direction is if a live GM held your hand throughout the whole thing and sang lullabies.)
My magically abilities have largely unknown effect until you test them and even then who knows, Do i invest points or not???? What’s the pros and cons of the ability why should i make an investment here rather than there???? I might as well add at this point apparently you can’t respec, so crap to you if you invest all your points in lightning and they nerf the hell out of it.
(all abilities have a description that is available to every player of any class from the start of the game – it says what the ability does “i.e. area damage” details “high damage, 6m radius” and even has a description of the ability. Its right there on the same skill tree where you put skill points into them. Did you even try this game or are you making this stuff up?)
The whole thing smacks of trying to cash in on MMO's with a "Trusted" (by who?) name. He largest claim to fame was UO which in my opinion was largely based upon the people in the game not some kind of pseudo master plan he cooked up.
(you just said that the game was directionless, now there is a master plan? Which is it?)
I am personally cancelling my sub after the one "free" month. If you are going to give it a go, I would really consider the Digital Delivery as paying AU$100 in stores or AU$50 online because either this game will get a serious rethink or it will be flushed in 1-3 months.
(You are more than welcome to dislike the game and cancel. But what you’ve posted here is a pile of garbage of which under 10% is true.)
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
I got to "shooting stuff world of warcraft style" and stopped reading. Obviously you have no concept of this game so your review is irrelevant to me.
I read it for the humor value. He isnt playing the same TR I am.
Yet another review as clueless as they come. Definitly not the same TR I play as well.
That has to be one of the worste written and inaccurate reviews of a game I have ever read. I am not even sure if it was TR he was talking about or what.
RIP SWG
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Are there 2 different type of Tabula Rasa games? glad i never picked the OP's version of Tabula Rasa.
This is what i mean when i say some people simply don't REALLY play the game, or seem to NOT understand the game. Not sure how someone even thinks about writting something like the OP did. If someone makes a review next time make sure you speak about the game that is listed in THIS section and not some fairytail, no good for no one.
I've sunk a lot of time into this game over the past 3 - 4 months and this review has some majorly fabricated, fictitious information in it.
Opinions are one thing, nobody expects everyone to love this game, but if you're going to write a review, regardless of the underlying opinion, can we at least make sure that the facts are actually... facts?
oglem, I am glad you are cancelling your subscription.
"I have been playing Eve online for over 2 years now and that game is the king of directionless game play, Tabula Rasa kicks the crap out of it"
Wow. You've lost all credibility as a rational human being. Eve Online is the most directionless, meaningless, unguided game ever made. To even COMPARE these two games proves to me that you have no clue what you're talking about.
oglem, download and read the manual, not only have you not yet discovered how to open your quest journal it seems, but you also have no clue why you're collecting "some crap symbols", which is an important part of the gameplay. 3 days of casual play will take you into your mid-teens, hardly played the game long enough to review it. Reviews weigh the product, you get an overview of what's good, and what's bad, your review had none of what's good. It seemed more like a whine/troll post under the clever disguise of a review title. Try again.
Manual can be found here:- http://eu.rgtr.com/en/field_training/afs_field_guide
(I'm resourceful like that, just like opening your quest log and reading what the quest entails.)
This is why I trust professional reviews more than forum posts. Forum posters always seem to have an agenda (good or bad) and can't do an objective review without letting their fanboi love/hater hate shine through. People play the game for 15 minutes and if something good happens, they think it's the best thing since sliced bread. If something bad happens (which apparently happened to the OP) then the game's awful and nobody should play it.
How about playing the game for more than a day? How about reading the manual and understanding how the game and UI work before bitching about things that are broken/missing but are actually there and you just didn't figure out how to access them? How about, instead of deciding you hate the game and you're going to convince everyone else not to play, investing some time into learning how things work, and then posting the results based on actual facts and results?
I'm no fanboi. I've played a ton of MMOs and I let it be known when something is awful. I haven't been following this game for very long, in fact I kind of stumbled into it after being thoroughly disgusted with the bug-ridden piece of trash that is Hellgate:London.
Is TR perfect? No, but it's still a good game. It's stable, polished and fun, which is more than I can say for a lot of MMOs around launch time. The first patch fixed a ton of in-game bugs. The game's got great potential, and it's only going to get better.
MMO history:
EQ1 - 65 DE Wizard
DAoC - 50 Dwarf Thane, 50 Dwarf Healer
EvE - Amarr, Caldari BShip Pilot
CoH - 40 Ice/Ice Blaster, 40 Dark/Regen Scrapper
WoW - 60 Undead Priest, 60 Tauren Warrior
LoTRO - 30 Hobbit Burglar
Currently Playing - Tabula Rasa
Hi all,
In reply to Azanth:
Im not trying to convince people not to play TR. Im trying to give a more hands down review of what the game is like because when choosing to buy or not I read this forum with people espousing their views this game is the best thing EVER(tm).
I decided to post something so people dont fall into the same trap I did. The only reason now i find myself writing replies is because of all the "he doesn't know what hes talking about" crap spewed forth by the people who posted to my first post .
I am happy a couple of people took the time to reply with thought and they are most likely right, I dont know everything, there are guns I most likely havent seen. There are most likely plot lines I have missed. You cannot deny some of my other points as these are black and white.
Regards,
Oglem
hahahahaha. All that bitching and he's still playing. That's called irony.
I guess for such a "trashy, bug ridden, horrible game," it couldn't be THAT bad eh?
LOL.
Hi all,
Well unlike normal products you cant return mmos so Im stuck with it till my sub runs out.
regards,
Oglem
ok, I'll bite the bait and play along. I will stick to facts only as much as I can and try to check my opinion at the door, since that is not what this is about. This is about clearing up some facts.
Hey guyz like I played this game on my mom's computer yesterday and I had this pistol and stuff and basically all it could do was shoot bullets (lame) I wandered around lost for about 10 minutes because the whole wasd control thing confuses me there was some orange thing on my map and some weird symbol thingy wtf??? then I logged out i play a lot of games this game suks dont buy it
lol, this makes me wanna try teh game even more. and i agree with the guy above me... pwnd
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How rude !
So, can we expect a mature review in the coming weeks ?
well you lost my interest there (i love reading well thought out reviews of games i like) as you clearly don't have a clue about Tabula Rasa so i expect the other points you have made are wrong too
hahah thats awesome.
I should also mention that as far as "cover" goes, you can check out how well you are covered by looking at your reticle while being hit.
If your reticle is showing the damage to you as RED, you have zero cover and might want to duck behind something nearby. If the damage to you is showing up as Orange, you have 25% mitigation from your cover. Yellow? 50% mitigation. Green is 75% mitigation! If you are behind some cover but not at max mitigation, try crouching, it helps!
Also note that if any mob is within melee range, don't crouch! Crouching will amplify the damage that you take from melee. Melee range is aprox 10 meters for the most part.
listen. both me and mithrandolir have provided you with very detailed, point-by-point rebuttals. instead of saying "up yours", why don't you go point-by-point through our posts and tell us exactly where we are wrong.
your review is clueless and completely uneducated. we have shown you why with exact facts from the game. if you want to do defend your opinion, you'll have to do better than "up yours".
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
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