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Furys Downfall
The downfall of this game is that it offers nothing else besides hardcore arena style PVP.
In a game with an actual world, quests, and and other things to do besides PVP you CAN still just do nothing but pvp all day and night. Many players choose to do this in WoW for example by just doing arenas and battlegrounds. That option is completely covered.
WoW also happens to have a huge PVE side of things, which isn't appealing to many "hardcore" pvpers IS something that gets experienced by the LARGE majority of the players at some time or another.
So essentially all fury does is completely limit the game play options to one tiny narrow aspect of what any normal game offers.
In my opinion instanced PVP and arena style PvP isn't even real PVP. I would much rather play counterstrike. The entire point of PVP in an MMORPG in my view is to fight over resources such as monster spawns, towns, and further your guilds name. In Asherons Call on darktide for example all we really did was PVP all day, but we could go out into the world server looking for people who were doing PVE to slaughter. This is a form of PVP that is exceptionally fun and only available in MMORPGs. There were 9 dungeons. 3 low level ones (lugian citadels) 3 mid level ones (olthoi horde nests) and 3 high level ones (black spawn dens) and they were literally "owned" by guilds that constantly had full time PVPers defending them. Other players who enjoyed PVE went deeper inside and hunted while being protected by the PVPers. The guilds also all had towns they owned and re-spawn points (lifestones) that other guilds would try to camp.
Thus we had a massive guild vs guld war with POLITICS involved. MMORPGS are all about politics. If my guild pissed me off I might leave and join the enemy and then begin to fight against my guild instead of with them. If I went around slaughtering innocent players I would be labeled as a "PK" and shunned by "anti-pk" players. The point is it HAD the whole "pvp to your hearts content" aspect like fury, but in addition to this there was a whole HUGE game with politics, crafting, PVE, a random loot system, and resources worth fighting over.
Fury fails as a game because they assume PVPers would prefer to play in a much more limited game that doesn't offer them a single extra benefit for giving all that other stuff up. This was clearly a very false assumption. They looked at it and said "omg pvpers hate PVE lets just make a game with none" but doing PVE or not is an OPTION in most games. There was once a guy who saw kids wearing their hats backwards and he just assumed they didn't like the brim....... so he made hats with no brim. He failed in exactly the same was as Fury. Taking away an option no one wanted adds ZERO utility. For a PVP player who wasn't going to do PVE anyways all it does it alienate anyone that isn't 100% focused on NOTHING but PVPwhich is the large large large majority of players.
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I think they looked at it and decided a real PvPer would rather do a straight up 4v4 "fair" match in terms of balance / number of enemies than some ganking or massive fight world fight. I've done world PvP and really enjoyed it in other games but if you want to prove you are a great PvPer / guild then Fury is the game for you.
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It's funny to see people who don't have a piece of skill in them, therefore get owned pretty hard and then come here and talk crap about Fury. Most of them continuously amuse me. Keep it going!
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Osbourne Cox: You are the guy from the gym.
Ted Treffon: I don't represent Hardbodies.
Osbourne Cox: I know very well what you represent. You represent the idiocy of today.
Ted Treffon: No, I don't represent that either.
Osbourne Cox: You are part of a league of morons. Oh, yes. You see you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. But guess what. Today, I win.
Yes, you too can buy gold and skills with real-life cash and show how "cool" you are by beating people who haven't wasted their money. Don't forget: just because you won a few matches in a game no one cares about, that is going to stop the other kids from beating you up in school again on monday.
Yes, you too can buy gold and skills with real-life cash and show how "cool" you are by beating people who haven't wasted their money. Don't forget: just because you won a few matches in a game no one cares about, that is going to stop the other kids from beating you up in school again on monday.
You do realize that buying gold and skills doesn't give you an edge? It just let's you experiment with more builds right off the bat, and have much more variety. The way the equip point system is set up is rather nice.
With a 10 day free pass, well ok i lasted two hours.
It's a pointless game for me, same thing over and over and over. It,s worse than killing the same mobe 5000 times over.
PS:
The only thing that did not change was the People and the way they play...
It's a 3rd person Quake 3 with MMORPG elements (gear, skill progression, hotbars bla bla).
Don't mistake it as an MMO, it ain't trying to be one.
If you liked playing Q3 online or Unreal Tournament, you'll like Fury.
If you only play Arena + BG in WoW, you'll like Fury.
I disagree on the "you buy gold with money and beat everyone and think you're cool".
I haven't paid a single month of subscription (yes I only bought the game) and I have no trouble finishing either 1st or 2nd in Bloodbaths... You just need to make a decent build and learn to play it to it's strength.
I'm soon starting team-based games as well.
I'm a fire/air destroyer and I only have 2g left in my inventory and I didn't buy or craft anything other than my twin axes that were for sale 5g in AH.
The same gear that is bought in AH is the gear that the end of matches reward so I can't see the problem...
Also, Skills are easily unlocked too so buying the UNLOCK pack is just...faster, doesn't change anything/give more power.
If you play your cards right you don't need all of them, play couple of matches and unlock skills for your "class" and you'll see an improvement.
It's the best arena-based/competitive PvP RPG game I've played so far and I've pretty much played them all. If you're into PvP it never gets old (every match items drop, you get good money if you wanna spend it on smthn and the combinations are unlimited...Not only of skill but also gear!)
Curious. Every thread mentioning anything wrong with Fury, and you pop in with the same ol' "You got owned, now you're crying." bit. Do you have anything else in your repertoire, or is that about it?
Curious. Every thread mentioning anything wrong with Fury, and you pop in with the same ol' "You got owned, now you're crying." bit. Do you have anything else in your repertoire, or is that about it?
It's because I am tired of people bashing this game with false accusations, then I simply invented one sentence and provide that only.
Let's see what people blame this game for:
1. False advertisement: I agree that it should be stated at the back of the Fury box. But then again I don't think it is needed that much because Fury is FREE to play. You have the same abilities and skills even if you do not pay or subscribe.
2. Performance issues and major bugs. I agree with these people that Fury's performance should have been improved and major bugs should have been fixed. Quote somewhere that I replied with my standart post for this issue? Yeah, there is none ...
3. "Fury is falling, Fury is burning, yada yada...". Even if Fury is sucking in terms of sales, why the hell do these people come and post these stuff here? Because they have some kind of hate against Fury. How do you explain this hate? Either being owned in competitive games or do not have some $$s to buy some offers from Auran. If you don't buy anything that costs real life money, you should still do good in competitive game, it does not give any edge to anybody.
If I go to a Red Sox game in Boston, and then when they try to sell me Hot Dogs for $10 where everywhere else it's $3, can you do something about it? If the lights are not working and the game pauses for 10 minutes, can you get your money back?
If you go to Red Sox game in Boston, and shout that "Red Sox" sucks in the middle of fans, do you get a good punch in the face or not? You do, because you insult the people. As a Fury player, I am insulted when people falsely accuse this game while they are not playing. You can chose not to play this game, but coming here and hate spreading will be dealth accordingly by me, no exceptions.
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Osbourne Cox: You are the guy from the gym.
Ted Treffon: I don't represent Hardbodies.
Osbourne Cox: I know very well what you represent. You represent the idiocy of today.
Ted Treffon: No, I don't represent that either.
Osbourne Cox: You are part of a league of morons. Oh, yes. You see you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. But guess what. Today, I win.
Heh nice xtort, I tested fury from early alpha, unfortunately after a certain build the games direction and my path departed(along with several friends of mine who were in the alpha as well and a moderate number of clan mates as well). For those that like fury good luck and enjoy. For those that dont, find a game you like and play it.
Its a great game for people who want sword and spell based PVP without the PVE areas.
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Games played: to many to list, been playing MMO's since 2001
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Curious. Every thread mentioning anything wrong with Fury, and you pop in with the same ol' "You got owned, now you're crying." bit. Do you have anything else in your repertoire, or is that about it?
It's because I am tired of people bashing this game with false accusations, then I simply invented one sentence and provide that only.
Let's see what people blame this game for:
1. False advertisement: I agree that it should be stated at the back of the Fury box. But then again I don't think it is needed that much because Fury is FREE to play. You have the same abilities and skills even if you do not pay or subscribe.
2. Performance issues and major bugs. I agree with these people that Fury's performance should have been improved and major bugs should have been fixed. Quote somewhere that I replied with my standart post for this issue? Yeah, there is none ...
3. "Fury is falling, Fury is burning, yada yada...". Even if Fury is sucking in terms of sales, why the hell do these people come and post these stuff here? Because they have some kind of hate against Fury. How do you explain this hate? Either being owned in competitive games or do not have some $$s to buy some offers from Auran. If you don't buy anything that costs real life money, you should still do good in competitive game, it does not give any edge to anybody.
If I go to a Red Sox game in Boston, and then when they try to sell me Hot Dogs for $10 where everywhere else it's $3, can you do something about it? If the lights are not working and the game pauses for 10 minutes, can you get your money back?
If you go to Red Sox game in Boston, and shout that "Red Sox" sucks in the middle of fans, do you get a good punch in the face or not? You do, because you insult the people. As a Fury player, I am insulted when people falsely accuse this game while they are not playing. You can chose not to play this game, but coming here and hate spreading will be dealth accordingly by me, no exceptions.
Seems like you take it a bit too seriously. if you love the game, enjoy playing it. You don't have to be the LORD OF JUSTICE, smiting down those who oppose the game. Be happy you like it and deal with the dissenters.
Curious. Every thread mentioning anything wrong with Fury, and you pop in with the same ol' "You got owned, now you're crying." bit. Do you have anything else in your repertoire, or is that about it?
It's because I am tired of people bashing this game with false accusations, then I simply invented one sentence and provide that only.
Let's see what people blame this game for:
1. False advertisement: I agree that it should be stated at the back of the Fury box. But then again I don't think it is needed that much because Fury is FREE to play. You have the same abilities and skills even if you do not pay or subscribe.
2. Performance issues and major bugs. I agree with these people that Fury's performance should have been improved and major bugs should have been fixed. Quote somewhere that I replied with my standart post for this issue? Yeah, there is none ...
3. "Fury is falling, Fury is burning, yada yada...". Even if Fury is sucking in terms of sales, why the hell do these people come and post these stuff here? Because they have some kind of hate against Fury. How do you explain this hate? Either being owned in competitive games or do not have some $$s to buy some offers from Auran. If you don't buy anything that costs real life money, you should still do good in competitive game, it does not give any edge to anybody.
If I go to a Red Sox game in Boston, and then when they try to sell me Hot Dogs for $10 where everywhere else it's $3, can you do something about it? If the lights are not working and the game pauses for 10 minutes, can you get your money back?
If you go to Red Sox game in Boston, and shout that "Red Sox" sucks in the middle of fans, do you get a good punch in the face or not? You do, because you insult the people. As a Fury player, I am insulted when people falsely accuse this game while they are not playing. You can chose not to play this game, but coming here and hate spreading will be dealth accordingly by me, no exceptions.
Seems like you take it a bit too seriously. if you love the game, enjoy playing it. You don't have to be the LORD OF JUSTICE, smiting down those who oppose the game. Be happy you like it and deal with the dissenters.
He'll be too busy to play if he wants to be forum cop. This game is getting simply thrashed in the gaming media that I've seen.
I absolutely love multiplayer shooters. And I hated Fury, first I played it in Beta, hated it. Then I ripped on them like no tomorrow because of their stupid sales gimmick, $10/mo, buying gold, buying skills? PUH-LEASE. GameSpot ripped them a new one too.
After all that I still gave the game a try a few days ago with the new trial. It's the same crap it was in Beta. It's a horribly optimized UE3-based game, which looks nothing like what the UE3 can actually do. (see: UT3). On top of that it's boring, and the fights are a spamfest of button pressing and targeting. There is no "skill" involved. You eventually learn that only about 3 or 4 of your skills are worth a damn (because everyone dies so fast) and the rest just take up room in your hotbar.
This game blows. Plain & simple.
I'm absolutely sure you sucked at Fury as much as you sucked in the "multiplayer games" you loved.
Everyone dies fast in every frantic game like Q2/Q3 and UT.
And Gamespot isn't a very reliable source and it's extremely biased as proven throughout the years.
If you have some common gameplay sense and skill you'd realise it's not a boring spamfest and skill is more needed for doing the right thing at the right time.
And as alien as this sounds to you there's more than 3-4 worthy skills atm in the game.
But I guess your 2 hour trial didn't allow you to play much.
And maybe you'd care to elaborate on your "horribly-optimized".
If you're talking about performance my budget AMD 4000+ with 2gb of ram and 7600GT plays it in full detail at 1360x768 widescreen with 40+ FPS ?
I like PvP only game and I hate PvE. PvE are too repetitive and PvE centric games are only for retards.
that has to be the most retarded thing i've read on here, especially as a good 75% of gamers are PvE'ers because its casual... true PvP'ers are not casual, that why theres less of them, because casual gamers have real lives
that has to be the most retarded thing i've read on here, especially as a good 75% of gamers are PvE'ers because its casual... true PvP'ers are not casual, that why theres less of them, because casual gamers have real lives
I can see you are little slow so I make it easy for you. Ever heard of Counter Strike? Counter Strike players are casual players, aren't they? Your 75% assumption is laughable! To me Fury is just another PvP game. Understand? Should I repeat it for you? Your problem is that you keep thinking in term of MMORPG and NON-MMORPG. There is no such distinction!Ahahahahahaha... oh man, that's priceless. That's fucking epic, that's signature material right there.
Excellent idea, sir!
I think your all missing the point of Fury though, although i would never spend money on it - it is a game for people that only have a small amount of time a day to hop on, kill some people, and go off to work or change their babies diapers - it's a casual game for small glimpses of supposedly intense gameplay, a lot of people dont enjoy pve and the idea of just some pvp every once and a while is fun, it's like atari - that was a big deal for like 20 years, it's because ppl only wanted to or only had time to play for like 20 minutes a day
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Then it's pretty well failed in that regard. I'm not saying you can't play like that, as it's what I've been doing. However, you're gonna to have your balls stomped into your throat repeatedly by the "Professionals", and the organized PvP guilds, like LotD. A) They are going to have an advantage gear-wise, as well as having a wider selection of skills, at higher ranks.
They're organized, using vent, everyone know what to do from the get go, they've memorized the maps, etc.
The irony is when the fanboi tagteam, or the Devs for that matter, come and try to tell you that buying your skills, or better gear, doesn't make a difference, it's just that you're too stupid. Try telling that to the casual new player that's only got the starter skills, plus maybe one or two of the first skills unlocked. When they're facing someone with a good deal of resists on their gear, so doing even less damage than normal, plus it's against people that can switch their charges to another type, making them completely ineffectual. Who the hell is going to want to spend their hour or so a day getting their shit kicked in by LotD, et all. repeatedly, and advancing at a crawl, with no hope of ever being competetive, especially when they could play something like TF2, COD, CS, UT3, Frontline, etc, etc. And all without having to grind your ass off to unlock skills, while getting your teeth kicked in.
Which is, stuttering aside, my biggest gripe with the game. Why am I, as a fresh out of the gate new player, getting thrown into games against "high end" groups such as LotD, and the other organized guilds? Wouldn't it make more sense, from a Fun perspective to have new players fighting, I dunno, other new players, so they might actually get in a win now and a gain? Same for the organized groups. While it's nice for getting their skills unlocked, I'm sure it's boring as hell for them to steamroll PUG after PUG after a while. It also makes sense from a retention perspective. The game is already hurting for players, and having people like Xtort as your public face on forums is bad enough, but when a new customer tries the trial, and their first experience out of the gate is getting thrown into it against organized teams, and facing an uphill, unfun, battle that they can never win, why would they stick around, let alone pay money for the game?
Oh wow, so LotD (also known as "Lords of the Fail") finally managed to appear somewhat good by stomping newbs on a failed game. I remember how they always claimed "we were top40 in Guild Wars and only left because of PvP grind", when in truth they were just bad at anything competitive.
It's always (slightly) amusing to find people who take some level of enjoyment by posting bullshit about us somewhere we aren't likely to notice. If you want to see what we did when we cared about GW, then take a look:
here
Once the changes to skill acquisition we really lost interest in the game and moved on. We still have some guys playing GW, some playing Fury, some playing WoW, and several FPS games. What's hilarious is that your forum profile over at Guild-Hall lists you as a fan of Izzy, perhaps it escaped your attention that he was the leader of LotD-GW before we left.
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Elder, Lords of the Dead
Top Guild in DSO 1995-97- game wide
Top Guild Ultima Online 1997-99 (Hades Hall of Warfare still exists at Stratics)
Top Guild/Alliance EQ PVP Server (Sullun Zek) - Top 3 Server Wide
Top Guild Shadowbane - Scorn Server (our nation dominated the server)
Top Guild DAOC (twice) top 10 top 20 and top 50 all locked down
GW - Top 5, 10, 20, 40 - all in 1 year's worth of ladder play
CoV - Top 4 PVP guild across all servers, nominated PVP guild of the year 2006
WoW - PVP Arena Teams score in the top 5%
Fury - Top 5 guild consistently
We document our PVP history for all to see, so Lords of Fail is far from the mark. Nice try though nub.
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Oh, c'mon, everyone knows Raging Rainbows, and Flowers of Happiness were the top two guilds on SZ.
I think they looked at it and decided
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