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Can't find my MMORPG niche
Lhex
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My 14-day free trial is about to expire in EVE and to my own surprise I will not continue it. The first week in Eve was an exciting one. I found some great people who helped me along and got me in a Caldari Frigate (Merlin). The community in Eve is the best I have ever seen in any game but I think the overall pace of the game doesn't fit my style. I am actually disappointed in myself ironically. Because I want a game that I can get into, get lost in and I thought Eve was it. But between going to school and working leaves me only a couple hours a day to play and most that time is spent traveling to buy the necessary skills or equipment and ofcourse mining. I guess I'd look back on all my playing time the past 14 days and I don't see alot of accomplishment. In other words this game takes time, too much time that I don't have.
So I have went on a pilgrimage to try out as many MMORPG's as I can to feed this insatiable hunger I have. I tried Asheron's Call. The first server I joined was barren. So I hit the forums and found out that everyone moved to a new server so I recreated another char and joined that one. I met a really cool guy who invited me into his guild, he has been playing since release! But to my demise they were using bots and from what I gathered that is the norm. You walk up to the bot and type to it the buffs you want and then your uber. I got to lvl 25 in one night that way and never went back.
Then I tried Anarchy Online. Another good game I recieved from word of mouth. The learning curve can be steep in AO too. The nano implants and the interface can be awkward. The graphics are slightly above average which I don't care about gfx much anyways. But I spent most the morning in the training area and the overall experience wasn't anything new just same ol grind. I am sure things change and things open up as you move along to lvl 220 but first impressions are everything.
I then tried City of Heroes. I breath of fresh air when it comes to gameplay and ease of the interface and controls but with no end game, items, crafting or housing and the lack of any importance in having a Supergroup (guild) are reasons I will probably not continue with that subscription either.
I even tried UO the 7th anniversary addition. And I could only play it for 2 mins. Not because of the gfx but because of the controls were so clumsy and bassackwards. But I am sure once you get past that, well, to me your just used to it then and it doesnt mean thqt it is good. Once again first impressions.
I played FFXI for about 8 months and decided to strike up my old account again. But not known to me the last month payment to Playonline FFXI was never made, according to the CSR. I apparently didn't have enough funds on the card or whatever. So I asked him can I pay that late month and get my ID back and play. And he said no, that there is no wy I can ever play that account again. The only way to play FFXI again is to buy the game and start completely over. BAH!
I played Planetside for about 1 month. No end game. Same old base hopping. No point.
I played DAOC for about 1 and a half years. But I played it so much I am burnt out on it. I am sure everyone knows how that is.
I even had the balls to download Lineage II. But after you download the 1.3 gig game I could not get a temporary CD key to play. Probably a good thing. Because the game is filled with griefers, campers, bots. And a slow level grind from what I hear.
And ofcourse with my addictive and as you can see, my non-addictive personality, I will try EQ2 and WoW. Which one will prevail? With this luck it would not surprise me that either will.
Just a game enthusiast trying to find is home away from home. If you have any suggestions of other games or things I am looking over in the games I have listed and that I should try, please reply!
Thanks~ Lhex
So I have went on a pilgrimage to try out as many MMORPG's as I can to feed this insatiable hunger I have. I tried Asheron's Call. The first server I joined was barren. So I hit the forums and found out that everyone moved to a new server so I recreated another char and joined that one. I met a really cool guy who invited me into his guild, he has been playing since release! But to my demise they were using bots and from what I gathered that is the norm. You walk up to the bot and type to it the buffs you want and then your uber. I got to lvl 25 in one night that way and never went back.
Then I tried Anarchy Online. Another good game I recieved from word of mouth. The learning curve can be steep in AO too. The nano implants and the interface can be awkward. The graphics are slightly above average which I don't care about gfx much anyways. But I spent most the morning in the training area and the overall experience wasn't anything new just same ol grind. I am sure things change and things open up as you move along to lvl 220 but first impressions are everything.
I then tried City of Heroes. I breath of fresh air when it comes to gameplay and ease of the interface and controls but with no end game, items, crafting or housing and the lack of any importance in having a Supergroup (guild) are reasons I will probably not continue with that subscription either.
I even tried UO the 7th anniversary addition. And I could only play it for 2 mins. Not because of the gfx but because of the controls were so clumsy and bassackwards. But I am sure once you get past that, well, to me your just used to it then and it doesnt mean thqt it is good. Once again first impressions.
I played FFXI for about 8 months and decided to strike up my old account again. But not known to me the last month payment to Playonline FFXI was never made, according to the CSR. I apparently didn't have enough funds on the card or whatever. So I asked him can I pay that late month and get my ID back and play. And he said no, that there is no wy I can ever play that account again. The only way to play FFXI again is to buy the game and start completely over. BAH!
I played Planetside for about 1 month. No end game. Same old base hopping. No point.
I played DAOC for about 1 and a half years. But I played it so much I am burnt out on it. I am sure everyone knows how that is.
I even had the balls to download Lineage II. But after you download the 1.3 gig game I could not get a temporary CD key to play. Probably a good thing. Because the game is filled with griefers, campers, bots. And a slow level grind from what I hear.
And ofcourse with my addictive and as you can see, my non-addictive personality, I will try EQ2 and WoW. Which one will prevail? With this luck it would not surprise me that either will.
Just a game enthusiast trying to find is home away from home. If you have any suggestions of other games or things I am looking over in the games I have listed and that I should try, please reply!
Thanks~ Lhex
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Its pretty sad but you just literally wrote my MMO experiences down too. :P
I've played most of those that you wrote down and a few more and have had roughly the same conclusion. Im hoping either WoW or EQ2 will pull me into their respective universes and keep me entertained but Im not holding my breath. For now, im just pretty much beta hopping to see if I will land in a good MMO but to no availe yet.
"I'm really sick of elves, dwarves, and orcs. They can all climb into a pinto and back into a wall for all I care."
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"I'm really sick of elves, dwarves, and orcs. They can all climb into a pinto and back into a wall for all I care."
I agree. I've been playint Eve Online for about 1 year total and I keep falling in and out of love with it. I want a game where I can explore, meet people, craft, have an end-game scope, and have personal assets which I can call mine in the game exclusively.
So many games out there offer a lot but always have a downside in the customer service area, tech support, and game content to keep veteran players interested. Such is the life of a MMORRGP I guess.
DAoC was superb, but I too am burnt out from that game. However im 98% certain that the upcoming mmrpgs will more than satisfy my hunger. WoW is just a few months away and should keep me busy for a long time. Afterwards, DnL probably, and then maybe Dragon Empires, EQ2 or PotBS.
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Played: AC1, DAoC, E&B, SWG
Tested: AC1, AC2, DAoC, Eve, Planetside, Rubies, Lineage 2, MU Online
The way I see it end game is just that ... End of The Game. Why does people think that this is the best part of a game? You are no longer progressing in the game.
End Game I feel should be about Guilds v/s Guilds, untill this end game will not mean much to me. This is also a way to always keep it interesting. The guilds could fight over cities or what not. Then you are still progressing in a way.
Alot of games I have read about will do something like this, I hope they get it right!
Qombi the Necro Gnome
Qombi The Garden Gnome
Lhex, for something somewhat different, try JUMPGATE.
http://www.jossh.com
It's a space-based game with trading, mining, PvP and many other edges to the game. The graphics are no where near Eve, but the gameplay is very good, and there's nothing like flying your ship with a joystick.
-- Ambros.
nooblet:
I normally play melee classes, and frankly melee was boring in EQ. In DAoC there are weapon and shield styles/abilities to make things interesting
On Topic:
MMOG designers may hope that their game will keep us playing for a long time, but I no longer feel that's my goal. I'll play it until it's no longer fun and then quit. It's their failure if their game is boring, not mine.
Personally I don't think there's enough content in the mmogs I've played to keep playing for years. If it wasn't for the treadmill most people could go through the content pretty quickly.
"I played it for a couple weeks , tryed some RvR , had a lvl 40 something necro and i just never saw what was so good about the game"
When you say you played a few weeks do you mean 2 to 5? And the lvl 40 something necro, did you lvl it from the begining?
Im in the same situation as you Lhex, currently trying out CoH but I find it to lack in depth.
I have also burnt out DAoC, playing for almost two years and finding a new home is not easily done.
My advice: Give MMO a rest for a short while. Wait for the big ones. As it looks like now I will head to EQII to put up my new camp there.
I have a definate need to be in a mmo at launch. I want to know the history of the server and the game...
Playing: CoH
Played: AO, DAoC, Horizons, Planetside, SWG
Tested: Lineage II, AC2
Favorite MMO so far: DAoC
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Playing: Rogue
Played: AO, CoH, DAoC, EQII, Horizons, Planetside, SWG
Tested: AC2, Lineage II, Vanguard, WoW...and more
there comes a point when tried so many different genras' perhaps mmorpg for is not right for you at this time?
check out a video game store near you look at normal pc games do some research and take a break from the current round of mmorpgs out there
by fall and spring there should be a hole slew of new ones you can scratch off your list too
perhaps just the idea of new and different isn't the same thrill at this point? if not thats ok too
when i get mmorged out i love firing up my old sega and dream cast for some good soul calibur
I love MMORPG's but im in the same boat, as you can see from the list below. Ive tried just about every MMO out there (Not counting free ones, which 99% suck.) Im on the AC2 trial now, so we will see how it shapes up.. Its kinda laggy from my first impression.
MMO's Played:
Ultima Online
Dark Age of Camelot
Shadowbane
Planetside
Everquest
Ragnarok Online
City of Heroes
Star Wars Galaxies
Horizons
Fung Wan Online
The Sims Online
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Nooblet, for starters your class (necromancer) is not an RvR class at all - its seen by most as a 'powerlevel bot' and most serious people in the realm of Albion have a necrobot on their account.Necro's themselves get to 50 faster than any other class ingame, you can do 1-50 on a necro SOLO, without ever having to join a group in roughly 7 days.I work from 9-5 and i did it in less than 2 weeks (pretty much 2 weekends of gaming) .. compare that to the 9 months it took my thane on Mordred to hit 50, the difference is huge.
On top of that, caster classes at lvl40 orso just don't do any damage in PvP.Every nuke you cast gets resisted, plain and simple.And even IF you're 50, you need to spend another 1 month (atleast!) farming the trials of atlantis artefacts in order to compete.
DAoC has become too much about having bot characters and high end super duper items, and less about PvP.I saw people running round with bubblebots (wardens) speedbots, buffbots shieldbots.. you need like 3 lvl50's on seperate accounts, on seperate machines in order to compete.
Either that, or be lucky enough to join one of those 'uber' gank guilds that run in 8/16 man groups owning the crap out of everything that moves.DAoC had it moments, pre-Trials of Atlantis.. now however i wouldn't touch it with a yardpole.
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Rage/Enos
EverQuest is a cornerstone of MMOG. I agree with this. If you have not played the original EQ then you cannot claim a tour-de-force of MMOG gaming.
But you cannot possibly recommend it to a casual gamer. EverQuest's content is specifically derived for full-time players. If you cannot devote 4-12 hours a day to the game you will not see about 80% of it.
lol he said thane.. and mordred in the same sentance.
MMO's Played:
Ultima Online
Dark Age of Camelot
Shadowbane
Planetside
Everquest
Ragnarok Online
City of Heroes
Star Wars Galaxies
Horizons
Fung Wan Online
The Sims Online
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Vendetta Online should be a breath of fresh air when the open beta rolls around.
check it out:
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com
It's a space MMORPG with everything from trading in a fully dynamic economy to exploring a massive, potentially infinite persistent universe, solo and group missions both PvE and PvP, and intense real time combat (no click-festing like on Eve Online).
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
nooblet:
eh, I thought I was pretty clear about what I liked about DAoC. It's the melee skills/abilities (I espcecially liked /guard and /engage). I'd also add that imo it has the best quest system of all the mmogs I've played, and the battlegrounds are a lot of fun. As with most mmogs though there are more negatives than positives, so even though there's no longer any restrictions on the bgs I won't be going back.
Btw, I also liked Shadowbane. They have the best pure tank classes (outside of maybe CoH), and their hybrids are pretty cool too. If it was a stable game and there was more content, I might not have canceled.
I have been playing mmorpg's for quite some time and have come to the same point that you are at. I, like the individual you were talking about(the original poster) played Asheron's Call from release. I loved the game, being a gimp was an amazing experience, the fantastic combat system and the quests were all a large part of the game experience. Back in the "glory days" it took 12 newbs to camp the mosswart fort outside Hibian To. The game has gone to hell now, destroyed by exploits, third party apps, and most of all macros. I quit the game and tried several others. The first of these being AC2. This game is decent, although it had a horrible launch. Then came AO, which I still think to be the best of them all. Then came Horizons, then back to AO for a bit, then to Lineage 2, then to COH, then back to AC2, then to every beta out there, then the horrid world of EQ. The thing that I have realized with all of these games, is that they all have one steriotypical characteristic, GRINDING, endless level grinding. COH seemed promicing, and I am still subscribed to it at the moment, but even with no loot, no housing and such, it is just a grind until your eyes bleed. This game has amazing potental and I will play it until the City Of Villans expansion just to see if they can get a PvP engine right. But until then, I will happily await the online world of D & D online. Becuase they started the RPG buisness, and maybe this game can pull the world of MMORPG's out of the dark ages that it has plummeted into. (And another point you made well, time. Time is always a problem. Time based advancement like Middle Earth Online is implimenting will hopefully fix this problem for us casual gamers.)
This is the beginning of my past. This is the end of my journey.
This is the beginning of my past. This is the end of my journey.
As I walk through the valley of death I will fear no evil BUT evil will have no choice but to FEAR ME!!!
As I walk through the valley of death I will fear no evil BUT evil will have no choice but to FEAR ME!!!
I can't find ANY mmorpg out right now that makes me go "omg, I can't wait till I get home to play ____"
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I have played most of the games mentioned on the topic and have come to the conclusion that there are no mmo's left for me to play. So now I am looking to the next gen., WoW and EQ2 look beautiful but seem so..... normal, none bring anything great to the genre. Guild Wars looks great, skill based so a novice can kill a crappy vet, no real level. Also dragon Empires but they are also so mainstream that there high points are in all the other new games. I think I have finally found the right game though, Wish, it doesnt come out till 2005 spring but it looks great and brings new elements never seen before. The massive bestiary alone looks good enough to eat but also the subtle changes it brings like to monster spawning and AI. I think EQ2 will be the best for a few months and I will try to ride it but if you feel the latest and greatest games all see like the same thing with a different face check out Wish.